#karinalisenbee

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Just a quick follow up about Sam in Liverpool. He apparently was only there “for a couple of hours” on Tuesday. This from a handler on set speaking to a woman I know through IG who visited the set yesterday. This also makes sense with the storyline…Jamie is not in Philadelphia very much in the book, and the scene they were filming is the only substantial one that requires the streetscape. So it is not like he ‘abandoned’ KE for the week! ♥️

Thanks for the additional info! ☝️

So, that makes perfect sense with Karina having flown to the UK and Sam still being able to spend time with her, even though he worked, because it wasn't for a long stretch. He still had plenty of time to spend with her and do a belated birthday celebration for her. ❤️

The question now is: will Karina stay with Sam, go back to L.A. and see her friend Michal (remember Michal tagged Karina saying "see you next week"), or will Karina go to Mexico for her sister's bachelorette party? I can't imagine she wouldn't go be with her sister, so that's my bet. Unless Karina is planning a separate party for her.

We shall see... again, thanks for the info, much appreciated!

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Karina continues to "like" Sam's IG posts, even on the Sassenach Spirits account !

As I had surmised, Karina didn't return to the UK to go to the Baftas with Sam. And will most likely spend Thanksgiving this Thursday with her family since it's also her sister's birthday.

In the past, when Sam was dating someone, they would each spend Christmas with their respective families, and then go somewhere to celebrate New Year's together. Wonder if #samrina will ring in the New Year together? And also if Sam will be Karina's plus one to her sister's wedding on January 7 in Florida? We shall see...😊

PS. If #samrina isn't your cup of tea and or you want to be negative, there are sadly, PLENTY of "bitch and complain" blogs, kindly see your way there. I woke up with a backache, and I'm in NO mood for anyone's bullshit today. Love and light, people, love and light goddamnit! ❤️ 🤗

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NEW SOURCE ALERT!

I didn't have time to post last night and I was busy with work all day, but yesterday, by sheer chance, I found out I know someone who knows Karina Elle!

This is someone who I've known for awhile now on Tumblr, I DM with her regularly, and I trust her. She had seen my recent posts about Sam's latest romantic interest, fitness model, Karina Elle. She didn't think anything of it until in DM, she realized Karina goes by Karina Elle professionally, but her full name is Karina Elle Lisenbee (easily found via Google search). She gasped when she realized this, because guess what? Her kids went to high school with Karina!

She told me what a nice girl she was and what a go-getter she was, and how involved she was in so many school activities. She said that not only is she beautiful and obviously physically fit, but very intelligent also. And got her college degree in 3 years, not the usual 4.

Here's some of the info she gave me in DM yesterday. 👇

And she shared some pics of Karina from her kids' high school yearbooks. 👇 Freshman and Sophomore year Karina--such a cutie!

Here she is in various school activities, including student body PRESIDENT, sports, cheerleading, and French club. 👇

Sooooo, people hating on her are plain dumb...she's got it ALL: looks, personality, leadership skills, and smarts. All in a package that looks like this. 👇 Wow 😍

This is her with her ex-boyfriend. 👇 She definitely has a type. 😊 Too bad that, because of the asshole bullies in this fandom, we'll never get pics like this with her AND SAM. 😔

Anyhoo, I don't know why, but I have a good feeling about #Samrina. We shall see...

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Check out Twitter post from Briony Gowlett on Oct. 7rh. Familiar dog at Radar books?

Ooooh, verra interesting, Anon!

Briony Gowlett is the publisher at Radar Books, publishers for Sam's book "Waypoints". 👇

And she posted a dog visiting her offices on Oct. 7 who looks verra similar to Karina Elle's dog, Dash. 👇

Here is Karina with Dash in an old pic 👇

The last I knew about regulations, dogs entering the UK had to quarantine for 40 days. So, if this is indeed Karina's dog visiting Sam's UK publisher (presumably WITH Karina and Sam 😊) then Karina has been in the UK with Sam for a long time.

Can someone look into this more and circle back to me with any confirmation? I'm currently bleary eyed from putting together my Tobias post and can barely feel my fingers, and my right eye is starting to twitch. 🤪 I need reinforcements please.

PS. Wouldn't it be funny if Karina never posts herself with Sam but her DOG keeps popping up places where Sam is? 🐶

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Sam is in Liverpool, filming. (There is video on IG and Twitter.) Must be serious with KE if she came over while he has work commitments — just like real life couples!

Thank you and thanks to everyone who messaged me! Sam is indeed filming in Liverpool! 👇

As for Karina flying out while Sam is working...well, Mackenzie definitely did. 👇 So, could this mean Sam and Karina are as serious as Sam and Mackenzie were? The fandom would implode AGAIN if we got a #samrina pic like the #samzie one.

We shall see...😊

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Are Sam and Karina letting us know subtly that they are a couple, she allowing post showing her on the way to Scotland, he wearing Ryderwear

No, Anon. Sam and Karina are not thinking about US at all. Sam and Karina are living their lives, none of us is even a bleep on their radar.

Let me list all of the things Sam and Karina are thinking about before they would even come up for air to even remember they have fans: great sex, mornings working out together, rides in the Scottish countryside on Sam's motorcycle, great sex, hiking munros together, cozy nights in front of the fireplace, whisky, great sex, TMGD, Karina's incredible body, Sam’s incredible body, great sex, whisky, great sex, great sex, great sex. Lather, rinse, repeat.

I can assure you that at NO point have either of them turned to the other and said “Hey, instead of 'great sex, workouts, whisky, hikes, great sex,' let’s spend some time sending fans secret clues that we're together." When fans start to think like that, they become conspiracy theorists, and we know some of the worst conspiracy theorists out there are Extreme Shippers, Babygaters, Sam Haters, and the Gay Brigade. That's not a part of the fandom you want to be associated with, Anon.

So, Sam wore this Ryderwear sweatshirt/hoodie the other day 👇

I would assume because Karina, who works with Ryderwear, gave it to him, and he knew she was coming to visit him. He wore it for HER, not us.

And Karina DID NOT post she was going to Scotland. Tennis player, Taylor Townsend happened to be on the same flight. They were sitting together, obviously started talking, and Taylor tagged Karina. People tag people they meet all the time. 👇

Taylor just met Karina on the plane to Scotland. Do you really think Karina turned to her and said, "Hey, so I've been seeing this actor from Outlander, Sam Heughan. And his crazy fans don't think we're dating, they watch mine and his every move, so can you please tag me on your IG stories so that they'll know we are dating and I'm on my way to Scotland?" Read how insane that sounds.

Let me put it this way...anyone who thinks that conversation happened, or Karina asked Taylor to tag her, or Taylor is somehow part of a bigger conspiracy, or Sam and Karina orchestrated clues to let fans know they're together...is well, to put it delicately, not right in the head. Sorry to be so blunt...but it's really as simple as that. 🤷‍♀️

Anon, forgive me if I sound harsh, I'm actually not directing this at you, you seem nice enough, I'm directing this at the haters who continue to vilify Sam and any woman he dates, and spread LIES.

Anyhoo, here's hoping for some #samrina sightings!

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Again! Sam's green hoodie is from ryderwear! He really like those hoodies...

He sure does!

And looked who "liked" this pic? 😊👇

And this pic is in front of the hotel where Sam stays usually. He used to stay at The Bowery, but now he stays at this other NY hotel. I won't mention it but most people know which one it is. 👇

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Hi P. Some bloggers are calling you out. Attached is the screenshot. They are mad that there is no proof that KE is dating Sam. Calling you a shipper for Sam and her dates. These are the same bloggers that track Sam's IG follows, schedule, who he's dating. Bunch of hypocrites.

Thanks to you and the many DMs I got letting me know, I appreciate you all looking out for me. ❤️ But always remember and never forget...👇

Only newbies, haters, and Extreme Shippers are foolishly arrogant enough to mock my PROVEN record of source info. Wise people have SEEN my past posts where I have posted stuff no one else did via insider sources. It's all there, just a click away...and there's NO denying it.

There are literally HUNDREDS of insider info tidbits I've posted thru the years, things no one knew. Just do a Google Search for @p-redux, Purv, or my old name Outlanderfan25 on Twitter, or @fortruthseekers on Tumblr and you will see how much info I posted.

Also, didn't I JUST do a whole post with some never before heard juicy info about Tobias? That was from a DIRECT source. It's very clear that info was from a source who KNOWS Tobias. Is the shampoo he uses or the cologne he wears posted anywhere else? This is VERY specific info only someone close to him would know. 👇

And a couple of months ago, I was the one who posted CONFIRMATION from an identifiable source, that Sam and Karina went to the L.A. Chargers game together. I know this person's full identity. 👇

But, hey, if you want to dismiss my L.A. source because there weren't any pics, you cannot dismiss my recent Karina family source. This is someone who lives near Karina's parents in Florida, and whose kids went to high school with Karina. There's no way I could have gotten these yearbook pics of Karina in high school without this direct family source. 👇

Sooooo, I didn't get any #samrina pics from her RECENT trip to the UK... but the reason that people believe that my source confirmed Karina did go to the UK to see Sam, is because of the EIGHT YEARS of over 90% accurate info. It is IRREFUTABLE.

And people who have followed me for a long time knows this...unless you're a newbie, hater, or Extreme Shipper. The rest of you know I KNOW people who know Sam and Cait, Tony, Karina...and in the past, most of Sam's girlfriends or dates. FACTS. 🤷‍♀️

But, hey, if fairly new bloggers want to talk smack, no sweat off my back...🤷‍♀️ It makes me gloat when people have me living rent free in their head. So, go ahead, keep talking about me...it just shows that SO MANY CONTINUE to be Purvsessed. 😘 And that makes me 😁.

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Got two astrology Asks, so I figure I'll post them.

Interesting, verra interesting. We shall see. The Chargers game source said Karina seemed jealous she was talking to Sam for so long. But who knows if Karina is jealous by nature or something else was going on that night. 🤷‍♀️

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I am one of those who believe that KE has moved to Sam and has been there for a while and also heter dog. Look like it is her dog. I mostly believe it because of the necklace. It is like her dog has on other photos.

I'm still undecided, Anon. I need more concrete proof. 🤷‍♀️

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From Submit option:

Hi P, here's a better pic of the woman, definitely not KE. This was just posted on twitter. Sam looks soooo good!!

Thanks for submitting this and now there's no doubt it was not Karina. It definitely seems like NYCC was all business for Sam. 🤷‍♀️

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Hello!! Regarding not falling into conspiracy theories like the previous Anon. No, I don't think Karina asked Taylor to tag her, that would be too weird. But the opposite? If she wanted to stay totally under the radar, she could have asked Taylor not to make it so easy to find out that she was going to Scotland.. What do you say are things that hhmmmm..

Anon, let's look at it from Karina's perspective. She is not posting anything anywhere on social media and hasn't for MONTHS. Her public Facebook has definitely been hacked: it's posting OLD pics of her and weird prank videos. She may not know it's been hacked or is having trouble getting access to it again. So, we can agree, she's not posting on social media.

She gets on the plane to Scotland and her seat is next to tennis player, Taylor Townsend, whom she is meeting for the first time. Prior to meeting her on the plane, she wasn't following her on social media. So, Karina DOES NOT know that prior to boarding the plane, Taylor had posted an Instagram, in very small print, a tiny plane and a tiny Scottish flag. 👇

Taylor posted the above PRIOR to getting on the plane. You can see she is OUTSIDE the plane. She hadn't met Karina yet. Karina hadn't followed her on IG yet, ergo Karina didn't know Taylor had posted the tiny Scottish flag in one of her IG stories.

Later, Karina gets on the plane, sits next to Taylor, they introduce themselves, find out who the other is, and THAT'S when Taylor takes the selfie and tags Karina. Do you see ANY hint in THIS IG story of WHERE Karina is heading? 👇

NOPE. No Scottish flag in this IG story. So, Karina didn't know that in a PREVIOUS IG story, Taylor had posted a tiny Scottish flag, giving away their destination.

I imagine Karina then slept on the flight, once she landed in Scotland, there's the hustle and bustle of going through customs, and then her focus was on seeing Sam. By the time Karina even looked at Instagram again, maybe even clicked on Taylor's IG stories, the IG story that showed the Scottish flag was gone (IG stories only last a few hours).

By NOW, trolls have tagged her and Sam with the Karina/Taylor picture on IG, so they both probably are aware that fans know she's in Scotland, but at the time of the flight with Taylor, Karina wasn't aware Taylor had given away their destination. 🤷‍♀️

See, no conspiracy theories...truth, it's simple.

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I already reblogged my previous post adding the pic that PROVES Karina is on her way to Scotland...but I think the news deserves its own post...especially given what assholes some haters have been...hope you like eating crow for lunch, I hear it tastes like chicken. 😁 👇

Karina on the same flight to Scotland as tennis player, Taylor Townsend. 👇

Guess Karina WILL be celebrating her birthday, albeit, belatedly WITH Sam. ❤️ Now we know what Sam will be doing this weekend. Wonder how long she'll be staying.

PS. Thanks for the ton of DMs and Anon Asks alerting me to this. I was driving dammit. Love you guys! 🥰

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It looks like Sam and Karina are trying to make time for each other at least once a month as long as he's filming. Early October he was in NYC, Early November she was in Scotland, early December he'll be in NYC again and in Miami. Coincidence? I don't think so. It's like it was with Mackenzie back in their time together. I think after a long time of casual dating, Sam is in a committed relationship again and I think it's exciting!

We shall see...😊

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So, Sam, Graham, and Duncan continuing to have fun in Edinburgh this past weekend!

And we know from source pics that were sent to me yesterday, that Karina was in Mexico with her sister and family and friends for her sister's bachelorette party. Some people are wondering if Karina will come back to the UK to go to the Baftas Scotland with Sam. I HIGHLY doubt that. I think she's headed back to L.A. If I hear about any sightings, I'll post. But if Sam did take her, that would be HUGE. But remember the uproar when he took Mackenzie? I don't know if it will happen again unless he's super serious with someone and wants to go public.

BTW, the meal the 3 amigos had looks amazing, yum!

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Just got this in DM. Karina's friend, Michal back in Los Angeles at Gold's Gym...and no Karina in sight. 👇

Sooooo Karina is still in the UK with Sam or at her sister's bachelorette party in Mexico. I'll keep you guys posted what I hear. I have my Karina family source from Florida and my UK sources. We shall see...