#just vibes and crackships and talking about character nuance

[olenvasynyt]

This is going to be my last post about this but I was talking to someone who said that “oh all character weeks and ship weeks do this where they don’t allow certain ships or characters involved. Banning Tamlain from Elain week isn’t something new”.

I literally went to Feyre week and there was no rule about banning Feytam specifically from Feyre week. Feyre, who was canonically hurt by Tamlin. People who ship Feytam also know it’s not the place to post Feytam on Feyre week because the shippers actively understand their ship and are comfortable with it for their own reasons.

Edit: And Elain hasn’t even INTERACTED with Tamlin, why do you care if people ship her with him?

You don’t have to like certain ships or characters. So don’t have to see eye to eye with the people who like Tamlin or explain his actions and have sympathy for him. But stop putting your own personal experiences and beliefs onto others because these are FICTIONAL CHARACTERS! Tamlin isn’t real, Elain isn’t real, etc etc.

What up with dictating what people like? Having this weird policing of fanon and art and fanfics that people create? It’s weird as hell. I swear some of you people have never been in a fanbase before this.

[mauveberries]

i always use u as a point of reference to the tomarry/harrymort fandom coz ur my only mutual who ships them,, but after reading a couple of ur posts I have come to the impression that u are.... quite the polarizing figure in the fandom.

what's the tea?? is there drama in the harrymort fandom?? do they have just as bad fanon takes as the marauders fandom do?? im so curious 0_0

"quite the polarizing figure in the fandom." HELPP 😭 this ask is SENDING MEE 😭😭

i have been fighting for my LIFE in this fandom because of my... unique opinions that do not conform with the consensus the fandom has decidedly settled upon. i wouldn't say there is drama in the fandom. it's just that my opinions sometimes trigger people who are out of touch with canon. just like in the marauders fandom, (although, to a much lesser extent) this fandom suffers from Warping The Character Beyond Recognition Syndrome (tm) 🙄

i think a reason why my opinions differ from those of a usual tomarrymort enjoyer is because i like voldemort more than harry.

i know this fandom usually loves harry more than voldemort, so, obviously, voldemort is usually depicted as grovelling for harry which Pisses Me OFF he would NOT grovel for harry what are you people on? 😭

harry is just inflated as being this super special character that voldemort would be suuuper interested in, which i find hard to believe. (in timetravel aus and such.)

i hate the way this fandom treats bellatrix. like, they make fun of bellamort as if tomarrymort doesn't give off the biggest crackship vibes, like brother sit tf down, cause i know You ain't talking.

i hate the character this fandom has warped voldemort into, it's actually sad. he's treated like a freaking clown/a big joke, and i Know fandom isn't that serious, but i just want to see a nuanced, interesting voldemort that has a personality outside of being obsessed with harry.

this fandom can't understand that voldemort has relationships outside harry potter. he is like 50+ years his senior, of course he wouldn't just be an angsty, brooding man waiting to bang harry 😒.

which brings me to my next point. this fandom has such atrocious takeways from canon, it actually hurts. they think voldemort would be obsessed with harry in every timeline, which.... is just not true. without the prophecy, harry is just truly Some Guy who voldemort wouldn't take notice of.

voldemort isn't ever canonically obsessed with anyone in a romantic way. he's trying to kill harry. there's a big difference. voldemort is the type of person to eliminate a threat, no matter what. he isn't suddenly going to be interested in harry because.. *checks notes* oh.. right, he's sarcastic! and.. and witty! and is defiant! sorry this is deranged, i'm just really annoyed.

people saying tomarrymort is peak enemies to lovers grinds my gears because it's not. yes, they are enemies in the sense that they stand on the opposing sides of ideologies and yes, voldemort killed his parents. but that doesn't make harry a worthy enough opponent to be called the Enemy of voldemort. harry's a child soldier. that title is solely reserved for firstly, voldemort himself, and secondly, dumbledore.

i don't know why it's such an unpopular thing to not like harry? i like harry, but not to the same extent as i like voldemort and a lot of people seem to have a problem with that? yeah, that could also be a reason why i'm a polarizing figure XD

also, some people are like, "it's the passion that makes it exciting! the line between love and hate can blur!" for who?? the teenager that made you lose EVERYTHING for 13 YEARS?? oh helllll naahhhhh imma pass, voldemort is Not having that line blurred thankyouverymuch.

if i could keep talking about this, i wouldn't ever stop, the fanon takes are so bad, i'm pretty sure i have half the fandom blocked lol. but yeah, no drama, just me being annoyed and having illiterate people harrassing me via anon asks.

this ask made my day ily 💕💕

[highlordofkrypton]

Seconded and adding to your excellent points--

What happened to using art as a creative outlet and participating in a community? Art, no matter the medium, is a way of people to work through some emotions including trauma and the way some of the responses you've had on the original discussion boil victimhood down to 'she must be protected from all harm, and x are abusers and deserve to cease to exist' energy is... not it.

Art has always allowed me to work through trauma, especially through nuanced characters, but in the discourse we're seeing, apparently there are very clear cut lines about victimhood, healing, etc, etc. that I was not informed of.

And disclaimer, I also don't care about Tamlain, either. It's the principle.

Sorry for jumping on your post, I'll continue my ramble separately, but you're 100% right.

This is going to be my last post about this but I was talking to someone who said that “oh all character weeks and ship weeks do this where they don’t allow certain ships or characters involved. Banning Tamlain from Elain week isn’t something new”.

I literally went to Feyre week and there was no rule about banning Feytam specifically from Feyre week. Feyre, who was canonically hurt by Tamlin. People who ship Feytam also know it’s not the place to post Feytam on Feyre week because the shippers actively understand their ship and are comfortable with it for their own reasons.

Edit: And Elain hasn’t even INTERACTED with Tamlin, why do you care if people ship her with him?

You don’t have to like certain ships or characters. So don’t have to see eye to eye with the people who like Tamlin or explain his actions and have sympathy for him. But stop putting your own personal experiences and beliefs onto others because these are FICTIONAL CHARACTERS! Tamlin isn’t real, Elain isn’t real, etc etc.

What up with dictating what people like? Having this weird policing of fanon and art and fanfics that people create? It’s weird as hell. I swear some of you people have never been in a fanbase before this.