#just me and this hill and a non-toxic relationship with writing
Explore tagged Tumblr posts
Text
Hi, thank you to OP for giving me my very favourite hill to die on. <3
Thinking is writing.
Thinking is writing because the central element of writing fiction is making things up, and that happens whether your fingers are moving or not.
My writing process - which is vastly non-sequential - basically involves daydreaming about an idea until I have enough to write. Sometimes this happens while I'm sitting in front of a screen; sometimes it happens when I'm doing... anything else. Sometimes I start writing and things come out of my fingers that I didn't expect, but there is always daydreaming involved .and I workshop a lot of plotlines and dynamics and dumbass jokes fully in my mind before they make it to the page.
It's hard to transcend the you should be writing guilt and HOO BOY do I get that, because I also write for work. (That is where my guilt goes.) But the daydreaming -> typing -> daydreaming cycle helps me have a healthier relationship with writing, because staring at a blank page and not knowing what to say is the worst goddamn feeling no wonder Springsteen wrote a whole song about it.
I personally find fic-writing very therapeutic, and it's partially because I write for work and that stuff is vastly more complex than getting some fictional characters to make out, but that's not everyone's experience. (Also the jury's out on whether I'd recommend it; jk i love my day job.) But the point is that I don't think guilt should have a place in fanfic, regardless of your relationship to writing outside of it. We're doing this for free, for fun, in our spare time.
And.
Thinking is writing. Is it going to get something ready to publish on AO3? fuck no! Yes, you absolutely have to type at some point, and probably edit as well. BUT. You're workshopping your ideas on a timeline that makes sense to you and look. at. you. go.
And if the little brain demons start making you feel bad about not devoting sufficient typing time to something you do for free in your spare time? Send them to me, I'll kick their asses. You're doing great.
25 hours a day, 8 days a week, #gpoy.
#fic writing#fic writer#ao3#fanfic#writing#i hope you like this hill#i will die on it forever#just me and this hill and a non-toxic relationship with writing#you're totally welcome to join
5K notes
·
View notes
Photo
THE RIDDLERS LOVER - CHAPTER 1
THE NYMPH IN THE LABYRINTH
Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: The Batman (Movie 2022), The Riddler: Year One Rating: Explicit Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death, Rape/Non-Con Relationships: Edward Nygma/Original Female Character(s), Edward Nashton/Original Female Character, The Riddler/Original Female Character(s), The riddler/Paul Dano Characters: Edward Nygma, The Riddler, Edward Nashton, Original Female Character(s), Officer Martinez (The Batman Movie 2022), Jim Gordon (DCU), Bruce Wayne Additional Tags: Graphic descriptions of violence, Dark romance (Im not shitting about this one), Implied/Referenced Rape/Non-con, Rape/Non-con Elements, Catholic Guilt, Past Child Abuse, Emotional/Psychological Abuse, Stalking, Toxic Relationship, Childhood Friends, Trigger warning: Priests and nuns, The female lead is a serial killer, Virgin Edward, Touch starved Edward, Breeding Kink, Urophilia (Just a little...), Masochism, Sadism, Graphic Depictions of Illness, Loss of Virginity, depictions of torture, Heavy BDSM, male penetration, Yes he gets pegged :), The female lead is a femme fatal, Edward is a bisexual and i would die on that hill, Its so fun writting about trauma, Obsessive Behavior, Unhealthy Relationships, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder - PTSD, autistic Edward, Eventually there would be romance but first smut and trauma, OC its A VILLAIN, Fluff and Angst, tons of angst, Both love to hurt each other its their kink, Rope Bondage, They despise the other, But they literally cannot live without the other, Schizophrenia, I hope i write about it... in a decent way?, Stockholm Syndrome, they are both switch, Humiliation, Praise Kink, Maybe im missing some other tags, But this fic has intense BDSM and a lot of kinks...
Summary:
Against everybody would think, Edward Naston had only one friend in his entire life, and the same one that owns his soul. Emiliana Guzman grew up with him in the Gotham orphanage since the tragic accident that made her lose everything. Foster and foreign, Edward gives it a shot on his curiosity and offers to teach her english.
After ten years without contact, Edward finds her again, changed and beautifully lethal. Emiliana is a serial killer, and she is behind the same target Edward wants. ‘What would you do if your best friend became better than you at everything? Would you let her have what is your life purpose or destroy her?’
A/n:
Hi! I dont know how this really works, and everytime i see others peoples works with all those gifs and flashing lights scare the shit out of me xd. Im an old victorian lady by heart, so im doing my best trying to publish this shit xd. I would love to see your comments and your thoughts <3 (im sorry my drawings sucks, i just started drawing in digital this july).
#danonation#dano riddler#the riddler#the riddler x reader#the riddler x oc#paul dano riddler#edward nygma#edward nashton#the riddler 2022#ao3 fanfic#its my first time :(#this is my first fanfiction
24 notes
·
View notes
Note
I feel fans should be able to interpret shows and characters any way they want but it really bothers me that shippers die on the hill of Dean is such a closeted bi sexual and Sam is the biggest heterosexual out there. I love these characters because they are extremely toxic and codependent on each other. The story would not be the same with out that. Why would anyone look to Supernatural to be their all time gay representation love story when it most obviously is not. it just blows my mind how out there Destiel shippers are and how much they truly hate this show and hate Dean without even realizing it. I need someone to figure out how we can get rid of them from this fandom...LOL
Yeah, IDGI either. Fandom is supposed to be about just having fun however you want with the building blocks from the canon + your imagination. It's not even the main point that they're hilariously bad at interpretation, project too hard onto the characters to even see them, can't understand context to save their lives, pointedly ignore a million things that directly contradict their agenda, and too much of their so-called proof is actually gross backwards stereotypes about sexuality and masculinity (neither of which they seem to understand very well at all). If they were just having fun with it, who the fuck cares? Sure, it's annoying, but a lot of fandom is annoying because it is so specifically tailored to things not everyone is gonna like. There are other canons with fans who are fine admitting they just like playing in the canon world but not the canon itself that much.
No, the problem is hellers are not content to just enjoy their non-canon interpretations in fandom. They feel entitled to flood any and every tag associated with the show, trying to demand their interpretations be considered indisputably canon fact because ... reasons ... and anyone who doesn't agree with them is A Bad Person because ... they say so. Their ship is the greatest love story (n)ever told, the best representation evar in media! It's the only important thing about SPN - and if they couldn't change the canon, they can change the fandom narrative! The fact there's actually no there there under their overblown thousands upon thousands of words of inept meta is why the very suggestion it's not canon, that someone doesn't see it as the greatest thing ever, that maybe Dean is actually just a heterosexual instead of putting on an elaborate performance of one or even that Sam might not be the straightest character ever written? Is taken as an attack upon their self-declared status as the real main audience. Which makes sense, because they never were. SPN was anything but subtle as to what its actual focal relationship was.
To some extent I get how they echo-chambered each other into believing their ship was/would be a thing in canon. If you just look at the size of the piles on piles of cherry-picked nonsense they accumulated over the years without actually engaging your brain to see how variously flimsy, out of context, or how many other more sensible interpretations there were for any of them? If you wanted to believe and surrounded yourself with others who did, too, and kept talking each other up, spending way more time doing that than watching the show? It's no wonder some of them ended up with really skewed expectations.
What I don't get is how they're still going this long after the show ended. SPN is over and there's no more 'Well, next season for sure!' to promise themselves. There are increasingly more stories out there now in a variety of media which are centering deliberately, openly LGBT+ characters and relationships they could invest in championing! Hell, just saying screw canon and burying themselves in writing their idea of "better" fanfic is a perfectly reasonable way to deal with disappointment, no matter how self-inflicted. Instead, they're still here making up elaborate conspiracies about how SPN was something other than what it blatantly obviously always was - because admitting they were wrong and the only thing they ever liked about it was their own OOC fanfic very, very loosely based off of it? Well, that's more than a bit embarrassing in light of how long they spent campaigning and how vehement they were about it totally being not just A Thing but The Most Important Thing Ever. So I don't know what would actually get them to move on, they clearly love being miserable and wrong and pretending to be martyrs over it far too much for me to comprehend.
20 notes
·
View notes
Text
I said I was done taking on baffling takes but I saw a really popular blog’s post against my will and it spun me into “please give me whatever drugs you’re on” mode so I’m giving myself a pass because unfortunately I can’t control myself around a good hill it’s like catnip for me: apparently—as I’ve just now learned—no characters other than Izzy had an explicitly queer arc of self-discovery and expression in this show! which is wild to me, because…come to think of it….maybe they’re…..right? I mean. I can’t believe they would make a show about a gay relationship in which the literal main character wasn’t responsible for the entire premise by leaving his heteronormative life behind to become a pirate and slowly come to find love, family, meaning, and self-actualization in a queer community! at least give his romantic interest an arc where he feels suffocated by a culture of violence and toxic masculinity so he goes through the ringer of highs and lows in which he finally finds balance and starts healing via queer love and found family…I mean, what were they THINKING to give the only queer arc in this show to Izzy and then kill him, smh. that’s the literal definition of burying your gays….idk what to tell you? (/s for legal purposes)
my dudes: you can be sad that your fave died without making it weird. stop watching the show if you don’t like it anymore. write fanfic in a different direction. you’re allowed!!! but can we PLEASE stop diluting what actual homophobia means because it’s not a silly gotcha for your blorbo dying and if you’re jumping through this many hoops to make that make sense, you MIGHT just be perpetuating what you’re claiming so loudly to denounce. because pretending the non-traditionally masculine and the non-white canonically gay LEAD characters don’t exist in favor of your fanon takes of the guy who for a whole season bullies those same characters for showing effeminate traits and then claiming THEM as a lack of gay rep isn’t a good look (and also just makes no sense. WHAT). rue ponder that long and hard. & if you think the show failed you for killing the “only” character with a late-realized queer self discovery arc…rewatch the pilot a few times, and if it’s still not clicking, honest to god you just don’t like this show as the show it is and has always been so please stop ruining it for the rest of us thanks ✌️
#enjoy Izzy without acting like Izzy challenge#it’s possible I promise!!!#I’m not surprised but I’m still just unbelievably confused#okay NOW I’m done gnite lovers#ofmd#ofmd season 2#ofmd s2 spoilers#ofmd spoilers#our flag means death#ofmd fandom crit
26 notes
·
View notes
Text
𝐧𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐠𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧
request status: open
blog rules: do not repost my work and claim it as yours. if you want to repost any of my writings, please ask for my permission and give me credit.
writings
⤷ marvel masterlist || hollywood masterlist || prompt list
⤷ smutty sundays request page
𝐢𝐧𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧
please read this for more information about my writing/my boundaries as a writer. read this too if you're going to request!
— who i write for
• natasha romanoff (i'm not taking any fic requests with natasha as reader's mother, or with natasha being pregnant) | wanda maximoff | peggy carter, pepper potts, maria hill (i mostly will be writing blurbs, or soft/angsty fics for them. nothing long. i just don't feel motivated enough to write for them) | yelena belova, kate bishop, peter parker (i will not be taking any smut requests for them. or anything that would portray them as dark/toxic)
• scarlett johansson (i will not be writing smut for scarlett. i will not be including or mentioning any of her kids in any of my fics, and i will not be portraying her husbands in any way negative) | elizabeth olsen (no smut for elizabeth either. and no mentions of her husband) — these are boundaries i've set, not just because of me, but because i want to respect both scarlett and lizzie (+ they're family) as they are real people who have gone through enough being sexualized and made uncomfortable by the internet. i don't want to add onto that
— what i do not write
• incest (or anything that involves relationships between blood related family members) | adult x minor relationships
• mdlg relationships, non-consensual sex, bdsm relationships (or any relationship where one tortures the other for the sake of getting off especially if it's non-consensual)
• kidnapping, relationships formed by trauma (orchestrated by a participant in the relationship for the sole purpose of getting the other person), abusive relationships
• girl characters with penis, vampire/ghosts characters,
75 notes
·
View notes
Text
Ruined, Destroyed and Be Free
The second time joining FFF by @flashfictionfridayofficial!! I’m really late but I decided to write it anyways. Sorry for the late submissions!
Word count: 1011
TW / non
Characters: Prasto the warlord (he/him), Atined the Shadow (they/them)
The nightfall. The moment was close. Prasto was looking down the field engulfed with fire from the old watchtower on the top of the hill. His eyes reflected the colours of fire; red, orange, yellow, purple, blue... It was reaching towards him. It was the fire of destruction. His troops had abandoned him many days ago. The hot, hostile wind was blowing Prasto's ginger hair. He gazed into the relentless wave of fire, remembering the days he spent on the battlefields. He fought countless wars - as a son of the most feared warlord, he had to grow up fast so that he could prove himself as a capable heir. He knew that the desire for power, which drove his father and ancestors to the endless bloodshed was also burning in his heart. He had no regret. The one who gained power by force would be avenged by force. He knew that the desire - the fire, would burn down himself and his kingdom eventually. He turned his head around and looked at the only person who stayed with him. That person was like a shadow - indeed, they were a shadow. Their hair was as dark as the midnight sky. Their long cloak was the colour of a raven. It was said that their clan was born out of the darkness itself.
Atined was one of the very few survivors of the ancient clan of the shadow. The clan of shadow had been serving Prasto's ancestors. They had been known for extraordinary physical abilities. They sealed the oath with the ancient spells but it was destroyed and lost a long time ago due to the clan's rebellion against their masters. Most of the members of the clan of the shadow perished with magical spells. It was for good, some people said, as the relationship between the clan members and the warlords had become toxic. The latter's crave for power was limitless, and some people of the clan wanted freedom.
'Atined, look at this incredible ocean of fire... it reminded me of the mead-hall of my old castle. So bright, so lively, full of emotions. Don't you think, my shadow? It is our last feast, what a magnificent view.' Prasto's voice had an upbeat note as if he was enjoying a festival. The was a massive explosion just beneath their feet, and the heated wind blew away Atined's black hood. Their tattooed face was exposed to the hot air. Their entire body was covered with quite intricate ivy-like tattoos. It was the ancient spell, which bound them to the warlord family. Atined slightly nodded but said nothing. Their black eyes were like a dark hole, reflecting nothing - even the raging fire could not penetrate the darkness. 'Calm as dead, just as always.' Prasto laughed loudly and turned his gaze back towards the turbulent sea of fire. The smoke rose as if it tried to burn the dark sky. 'Well...this is my last feast, not yours after all.' Prasto murmured. The sound of the burning field was somewhat comforting to his ears. He turned back and properly looked at Atined, who was standing still on the same spot. 'You will survive this hellfire, won't you, Atined? Since you are a shadow. You can tolerate it without even feeling how hot it is.' They nodded, again, without a word. 'Why did you choose to be bounded to my forefathers? You could've chosen the freedom just like the rest of your clan.' Prasto was grinning like a mischievous boy, yet his voice had a serious tone. Atined looked at Prasto, who was standing in the blazing world, surrounded by golden flare. 'My lord, I didn't have a choice, nay, I didn't know I had a choice.' Atined finally said without any emotions. 'I was born out of the true darkness. The ancient oath was already written all over me when I was born, although the oath had been broken and the spell had been lost a long time ago. I have never understood what freedom is.' Prasto shrugged. 'Freedom for you means no orders, no assassinations, no labours unless you wish to do so. You can go wherever your heart takes you. You don't have to follow me into the heart of the fire...you can't do that anyways.' Another explosion, then the watchtower shook violently. Bright orange fire sparkled and burned Prasto's skin. But he didn't even flinch. He breathed in the night air mixed with choking smoke. 'I have no regrets, no fears. My sword drunk enough blood. I'll become one with this fire which spares no human beings. I'll burn everything..everything my fathers had built. Everything I achieved, everything I lost... but you...' He stepped forward and looked into Atined eyes, trying to find the reflection of himself. But he couldn't. 'I always found that your eyes are scary. They are just... void.' He turned around and looked up at the burning sky. 'I grant you freedom, Atined.' Prasto said without looking back. 'How, my lord? And why?' Slightly surprised, Atined asked. 'Just wish for it. And that's it. Simple as hell. You've never thought about it, right?' Prasto said rather bluntly. Atined never said it, but they had been always impressed by Prasto's calmness. He had never lost wit even in the most desperate situation. For a shadow person who somehow lost emotion, that was normal. But for fragile humans, it's was different. 'If I wish...' 'Leave here before this fire swallows me and then wish for it. You might not be able to tolerate the fire once you are free. You'll be free from the curse, as well as the protection the ancient magic gave you.' It was more like a hoarse whisper but Atined heard it. Prasto looked at Atined straight. His eyes were burning brighter than the fire which was about to embrace him. 'I belong to the old world, ruined and destroyed by my own fire. Live, and find your way Atined. You are no longer a shadow. Look at the world with your own eyes.'
6 notes
·
View notes
Text
Tagged by @shortpplfedup because I thought it would be fun
1. Your all time favourite BL and why?
I told sunset about you
Everything about it. It does everything right. The script, the directing and the acting, it's all on point and makes this whole show special to such degree that you just can't get over its story. Everytime I go back, I know why I love it so much. Everytime I think about it, I want to cry. Because I told sunset about you is so beautiful it hurts and the nostalgia coming along with it is overbearing.
What I loved most is the cinematography because there are so many details to discover. The scenery often says what's not spoken alound, so the audience always understands the emotional conflict without being told. Every show and movie that works like this is good when it comes to carrying the atmosphere. But it's not only the composure of the scenery, it's the story, the characters and the acting. Teh and Oh-aew are pretty complexe characters and even though they are introduced as being nearly the same person when it comes to goals and choices, you more and more get how much they are actually not alike and rather complete each other than being the same. So, their lovestory makes sense, nearly feels like destiny and Billkin and PP portray them in a very lovely way.
Yeah, I LOVE this show but only ITSAY deserves my whole heart. IPYTM didn't pull me off my feet at all and it didn't even get close to anything ITSAY-related, in my opinion.
2. The one BL that scared you for life
Tonhon Chonlatee because how badly can you mess up?! It was scary how quickly things crashed down because it started of at being ok and went down the hill completely. Tonhon was the worst character. He was homophobic and everytime he made Chonlatee uncomfortable or me in front of the screen wanting to vomit, was explained with him actually liking Chonlatee in secret? Sorry, but I didn't buy it. He was a disgusting and horrible person, made everyone scared to show they're gay and didn't ever see his faults. Yeah, this show scared me because it was toxic and went down the hill so fast and so deep that I couldn't even realize what happened.
3. Is there any BL that made you feel very single?
Gameboys because they deeply care in a different way than friends do and when watching I craved for something like that.
It actually felt like true love and even though they only knew each other via screen mostly, their bond was so strong and it made me feel a bit lonely and yes, very single.
4. If you could change one thing from a BL, which one would it be?
The non-existent relationship in 2gether. This sounds a bit harsh and their relationship wasn't non-existent but it wasn't show that much either. Sarawat flirted a bunch of times and they said they love each other and it was all pretty wholesome but at some point, I really wondered if they even moved to the next level. Tine stayed shy around Sarawat the whole time, they never kissed except at the very end and I wished for a bit more than flirting only. There wasn't even much physical contact. They looked just like close friends to be honest. If they didn't want to insert many kisses, that's fine, but they hugged for like one time and never held hands. For me, their relationship was a bit unbelievable.
5. That one BL you detest
Theory of love looks like something I wouldn't like but I haven't seen it, so we stick with TharnType - especially season 2.
I still don't know why I watched this til the end without skipping. My internet was too bad to skip but boy it was hell to endure. Season 1 was a guilty pleasure but season 2 messed up in so many ways, I can't count. Everything went down the hill and the only thing keeping it alive was MewGulf's real chemistry because not even TharnType had good chemistry but at least the actors were comfortable with each other, so it looked okay between them. But oh boy, this show was terrible. Terrible writing, terrible directing and partly terrible actors. The whole concept was bizarre and dumb. I felt like my IQ dropped from watching because of all this inconsistency.
6. Your top 5
I told sunset about you
Cherry Magic
Gaya sa pelikula
Gameboys
We best love: no 1 for you
7. That trashy BL you lowkey like
History 4: close to you even though it had many problems. I managed to look past them and quite enjoyed it then but the second the final was over I started laughing at myself in surprise how I could've looked past every wrong thing they did. But I did it and enjoyed the good moments, let the bad ones wash over me.
8. Your favourite korean BL
Light on me because it had all the fluff and complexe characters. The love triangle was written in a realistic way and everything about this show was right. The side characters had proper screentime and I cared for them all. Some choices were a bit frustrating but they were teenagers and teenagers just act stupid sometimes. The accuracy of the life of teenagers hit way too close to my life, to my school.
9. Season 2? Which one?
Definetly Gaya sa pelikula. There are so many things left unsaid and so much Karl needs to discover.
10. A bunch of BLs will air soon, which are you the most excited about?
Probably KinnPorsche. The teaser looked so epic and it's a lovestory with a bodyguard which always catches my eyes. Don't know when it will air but I hope soon and I'm afraid I am too excited... but well, it can only be better than golden blood because that one was something else.
I tag everyone who feels like it
3 notes
·
View notes
Text
『 adam brody. forty. cis male. he/him. 』 oh heavens, is that DANIEL ABRAMS from FAIR LANE i see roaming around mapleview? minnie may’s always calling them -BROODING & -EVASIVE. i happen to think they’re not that bad! they’re a pretty cool HORROR AUTHOR and every time i’ve seen them, they’ve always been +DEBONAIR & +ELOQUENT. i hope i see them around again!
classically rolls in ridiculously late bc i forgot i had to work last night & then proceeded to sleep in today wooo !! good afternoon ghouls, it’s ya girl maia, finally here to deliver the definition of hot mess with good intentions.
GENERAL
FULL NAME. daniel elijah abrams.
NICKNAMES. dan, danny.
AGE & BIRTHDATE. 40 years old ; may 4, 1980.
GENDER & PRONOUNS. cis male ; he/him.
ORIENTATION. heterosexual.
MARITAL STATUS. estranged.
RELIGION. jewish ( non-practicing ).
OCCUPATION. horror author.
INSPIRATION. bill denbrough ( it ), donnie darko ( donnie darko ), lucas scott ( one tree hill ), stephen king.
PHYSICAL
HAIR COLOUR. black.
EYE COLOUR. dark brown.
BUILD. athletic.
MARKS. freckles scarcely spread across his entire body.
TATTOOS. none.
PIERCINGS. none.
HEIGHT. 5'11".
FACECLAIM. adam brody.
PERSONALITY
ZODIAC. taurus.
ALIGNMENT. chaotic neutral.
HOGWARTS. ravenclaw.
LABEL. the arcane.
POSITIVE TRAITS. cheeky, debonair, driven, eloquent, resilient, solicitous.
NEGATIVE TRAITS. brooding, evasive, inquisitive, sarcastic, stoic, stubborn.
HOBBIES. smokes like a chimney while writing until he forgets what day of the week it is, dabbles in hunting & fishing (thanks @ his dad), labels all crime / thriller genres as ‘predictable’ but continues to watch them, obsesses over & relentlessly criticizes his own work, drinks heavily & passionately plays moonlight sonata or fur elise as if he’s betoven’s disciple.
BACKGROUND
PLACE OF BIRTH. california.
CURRENT RESIDENCE. mapleview, north carolina.
NATIONALITY. american.
ETHNICITY. ashkenazi jewish.
PARENTS. judith miller & mr abrams.
SIBLINGS. mia miller.
BIRTH ORDER. eldest.
CHILDREN. penelope abrams.
EDUCATION. university of california, los angeles; bachelor of arts in english.
LANGUAGES. english, some spanish & french.
HISTORY
EARLY LIFE. born to THE judith miller and some newspaper editor, daniel was raised by the latter and notoriously abandoned by the former. well, not completely abandoned - there’s an old shoebox containing a few letters as proof - but that was the only source of communication in their otherwise absent relationship. while little danny boy didn’t fully understand why he couldn’t see his mother, he sought out an alternative solution by watching her movies. his father wasn’t aware, at first, and dan created this extravagant fantasy of the person he thought she was based on the roles she played. however, once papa abrams found out his son was watching these movies (which were probably not fit for children in the first place lmao oop), he begrudgingly revealed the bitter truth. being forced to come to terms with the fact that his own mother willingly abandoned him with his father, daniel didn’t fully understand what it meant; he couldn’t properly process why. the hurt of absent mother was expressed more out of anger, feeling as though there must have been something wrong with him. there were fewer and fewer letters sent to judith until he gave up altogether and thus, dan’s out of control behavior was born.
TEENAGE FEVER. SUICIDE MENTION TW. he struggled in school. his emotions betrayed him. instead of relishing a happy childhood, daniel found himself pushing everyone away, getting into fights, sneaking out late at night to run around the city streets with his friends and get into all sorts of trouble with them. he couldn’t count on his hands how many times the police picked him up and brought him to his dad’s doorstep. it only got worse once one of his best friends was found dead, written off as a suicide, though it didn’t add up in dan’s eyes and seemed so much more sinister. the young man was nearly deemed to be a lost cause, until he discovered his passion for writing.
language arts or literature was the last thing anyone would ever think to group with daniel abrams. but his english teacher noticed how well he could articulate his thoughts and feelings on paper, and submitted one of his pieces to a writing contest, which earned dan the win and a cash prize. bewildered by a talent he hadn’t even realized was in him, daniel embraced it. he started writing in a journal ( which he kept safely tucked away beneath the mattress of his bed ), documenting every feeling and thought as a way to express his emotions in a more productive manner. this talent earned him a full ride scholarship to ucla with a major in literature and plans of diving into some sort or creative writing career or perhaps becoming an english teacher, to follow in the footsteps of his high school teacher who he came to idolize.
mere days into his freshman year, however, his high school sweetheart showed up in the middle of the night at his dorm with a positive pregnancy test. it was then the chaotic world as he knew it turned a new leaf, revealing a silver lining in the form of their daughter, penelope, who daniel hadn’t a clue, just yet, would save him. and so a shotgun wedding was quickly planned around the pair, both families either completely supportive or in utter disbelief. it was quick, it was cheap(ish), and it was stressful as all heck. but they were young, and in love, and were looking forward to starting a family together, despite it being a little earlier than initially planned.
“ADULT”HOOD. fast forward five years, and they’re signing divorce papers. fortunately, it wasn’t messy. the two had simply grown apart as they matured in their respective ways, and remaining together was only causing a rift to develop between the two. the last thing they wanted, for the sake of their daughter, was built up resentment to tear the little family apart. his wife, who daniel initially thought to be the love of his life, blossomed into an absolute goddess; she was ambitious and knew exactly what she wanted. daniel, on the other hand, was still somewhat caught up in his ‘bad boy’ habits of drinking excessively and his career was still pretty up in the air. the two just didn’t compliment each others’ lifestyles anymore.
daniel moved out but remained in california, settling for a bachelor’s apartment where he was able to have penelope every weekend. during this time, he finally cracked down and worked on finishing a novel he’d started years prior. within a year, he found a publisher who took interest in his grotesque works, and by the time daniel was twenty seven, his first bestseller hit the shelves, changing his life for the better with the ability to provide for his daughter without stress of landing another odd job ever again.
as his fame increased, so did his desire to slink back into the shadows away from the limelight. at first, he enjoyed the wholesome book signings by day and grungy celebratory benders by night. but it grew old pretty fast and he certainly didn’t want to end up as another washed up shmuck. so, on a whim, daniel decided to move out of california completely, removing himself from the toxic lifestyle he’d grown accustomed to and shacking up on a beautiful piece of land in the rocky mountains of north carolina. the serenity and scenery certainly aided in his inspiration, as well as his unacknowledged lowkey addictions slowly being rehabilitated from his bloodstream.
OLD YELLER. now, in his utmost prime at forty years old, he’s written numerous cult classics, a few of which have successful movie adaptations. he was lucky enough to land himself in a second marriage, though.... that one is now deteriorating as well because he literally doesn’t know how to maintain a healthy relationship. he received full custody of his daughter when she was sixteen, under the unfortunate circumstance of her mother’s untimely death. although they’d been separated for nearly twenty years, daniel was still very much affected by the loss, more so empathetically for penelope. he’s still hooked on the drink, though he’s definitely calmed down quite a bit from when he was a young buck. basically a messy, depressy old soul who uses sarcasm to deflect his true feelings.
CONNECTIONS
ESTRANGED WIFE. first marriage was a bust, and the second is turning out to be no better. they haven’t hit rock bottom just yet, in his opinion (which would be finalizing a divorce lmao), and he’s unsure if they should work things out or not but also really.......doesn’t wanna go through the process of another divorce. plus he likes her and deep down adores their bickering. the reason(s) why things started falling apart between them can be discussed of course. lowkey debating on whippin this up as a big official wc but.... if anybody already here would like to snag it, i would 100% mclove it.
COLLABORATORS. literally anyone he’s worked with over the years, whether they be fellow authors, publishers/publicists, journalists, screenplay writers, etc. yeehooo the possibilities are endless !!
FOLLOWERS. anyone hooked on his books, whether devout fans from his early beginnings or people who newly discovered his fictional writings.
FORMER CLASSMATES. could be from high school or university, but he was in california for the better part of his life aka not a mapleview native. former friends to foes & anything in between. dan’s that one kid who spiked the punch bowl at all the dances and years later probably snuck in party favors to snort off the bathroom sink during their high school reunion lmao whew !!
ANYTHING. literally anything. i’m my groggy state of mind on my lack of creativity rn so please, i’m beggin. if daniel can enrich your characters’ lives in any way, shape, or form, hit me up and we’ll hatch a plan.
#———— 🥀 . 𝙳𝙰𝙽𝙸𝙴𝙻 𝙰𝙱𝚁𝙰𝙼𝚂 ╱ DOSSIER .#mv:intro#alcoholism tw#abandonment tw#drug use tw#mommy issues tw#suicide mention tw#i think....that covers it?? if i missed anything pls let me know & ill tag accordingly#this is awful bc i rushed a wee bit buT#HOT DOG am i stupid excited to write with yall
15 notes
·
View notes
Audio
ADMIT ONE • VIOLET SKIES
I first heard Violet’s music while coping with heartbreak in January 2019. Her song “Cry For Me” is peak crying on the dance floor music, which is, frankly, the only genre that matters. A year later, she caught a set of mine at a house show, and we immediately linked up to write. Turns out we have great musical chemistry and we get along very well just as people, too. Her music often calls MUNA and Robyn to mind for me, but her love for folk titans like Joni Mitchell is also apparent. Check out this playlist of songs that move the wonderful Violet Skies (plus her reasons behind each selection). Her ticket to the Carnival is good for a lifetime.
A Case of You - Joni Mitchell The song I wished I’d written. The song I try to write. The lyrics, the melody - HOLY WTF. Unimaginable genius that she is, and the most simultaneously clear and vague expression of love’s totality. 14 year old me heard this through my Dad, who said Joni Mitchell was a true artist and made sure I listened to every single one of her albums. I will NEVER be over this song. Even the title is just insanely beautiful in its duality of meaning.
Zero to Hero - Hercules Hercules was my first true introduction as a child to gospel music (I grew up in Wales don’t judge me) and honestly the vocals on this film, insane. The runs, harmonies, energy - as a child it was nothing like I’d heard before and I learnt this song back to front and still to this day I think it’s insanely good songwriting, musicality is just *chef’s kiss* and the women on this song MAKE that entire film.
Can’t Help Loving That Man of Mine - Showboat Original Recording I sang this 3 times for my ‘show song’ portion of my singing grades. Everyone else usually chose something like Phantom of the Opera or something more classical, because it was a classical singing grade. So I’d sing like a few arias, something in German and then three years in a row I sang this because I thought it was (aged 12) the most wonderful song ever. Lyrically, it’s rather toxic for a 12 year old girl, honestly, but I was a hopeless romantic and having never kissed a boy at 12, the VIBES on this song were just so dramatic and I loved it. Also Showboat had me and my sister in tears the first time we watched it aged 6, I don’t think my Mam realised how traumatic it was when she put it on for us to watch.
Goodnight My Angel - Billy Joel Billy Joel, songcrafter extraordinaire, writes lullaby for his daughter, I die. I aspire to this level of craftsmanship and yes, this also makes me cry. Please go and listen to this song.
Make You Feel My Love - Adele’s version Bob Dylan wasn’t someone my parents played so I didn’t know he wrote this. Adele is just TONE and WARMTH and this song again, is so dramatic and over the top and also subtle in a way that moves my very being. I sung this so many times as a teenager and it began my love for Adele. Ballads never get old, the good ones age like fine wine (I don’t actually like wine but whatever) and they continue to be relevant and timeless in their message.
Samson - Regina Spektor Only recently did I realise that this song has affected my songwriting and is 100% behind my obsession with the chromatic 1-2-3-4 chord progression that is the PERFECT pre-chorus in my opinion. This song is just GENIUS. A song about a modern day relationship with Samson, iconic in its own way (Wonderbread!), paralleled with the original Biblical tale of Samson. Melody and lyric and piano come together in a way that really separates Regina from her peers and this song will live on for decades. The song is so specific, almost unrelatable-to in content, but it makes so much sense on an emotional level and that, that, is songwriting.
Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill She wrote it. She produced it. She’s a feminist searching for equality of experience. She’s exploring gender. She’s talking to God. She’s creating iconic sounds before her time. She is Kate Bush and I will not hear a word said against her. Big Boi does a whole interview on this song and he GETS IT. Go watch that because he explains it so well.
At Last - Etta James I sung this at every talent show I ever did and every shitty pub gig in my teens. This song! Her voice! Nobody sings like Etta. She is effortless. This song shaped my voice and I credit this song and Etta James with helping me learn runs, vocal control across my chest and head voice, and how to really sing something and mean it. When people talk about how music of black origin underpins all modern music, it’s songs like this and artists like Etta they are talking about. She is a foundation, a cornerstone in the development of the modern vocal.
Hide and Seek - Imogen Heap Imogen Heap is really tall in real life and even more wonderful. I heard this first through my sister who played it to me in the car and I lost my mind. THE VOCODER. The melody. I don’t ever know what she means really, completely, (like Bon Iver) but like, god i feel it. *That* moment in the song is so insane and I hear it all the time in my own music. Wild! It’s so wild how 30 seconds of a song can change the entire way you think about music and shape your own musicality.
I Love You More Than You’ll Ever Know - Donny Hathaway Amy Winehouse sings in Rehab “cos there’s nothing you can’t teach me…that I can’t learn, from Mr Hathaway”. She’s talking about Donny Hathaway and she’s right. Donny Hathaway’s voice is bottled soul, a depth of feeling most normal musicians will never in their lives. He ‘taught’ Amy and it shows. This song I covered and never released, but I also practiced production for the first time when I made it. The drama of this lyric too - admitting he isn’t perfect, knowing he doesn’t express his love properly but yet this song is the ultimate expression of love.
Wannabe - Spice Girls Changed my life. First album I ever got (from the tooth fairy). The Spice Girls were the soundtrack to my very early years and there are many videos of me doing dance routines to this song. If I wanted to be a pop star, this is where it started. Also don’t tell me that ZigAZigAHHH isn’t genius!?! This song is something a modern Kpop band would release. That iconic laugh at the start?! I went to their reunion tour with my sister, she was a few month’s pregnant and we both BAWLED because the nostalgia and full circle moment was just too much.
Love Is A Losing Game - Amy Winehouse Lyrical perfection. Real songwriting. Conceptually perfect. Amy Winehouse changed my life because I saw a woman with a guitar on stage singing lyrics I understood, lyrics I thought were clever and funny and vocally she just outshone everyone around her. When Amy passed away I was at a friend’s garden party, my Mam rang me and I cried in the toilets and no one could understand why I was so sad, she’s the only famous person I’ve ever really cared about like that. I felt I knew her and I owed her so much. The world owed her more and I miss her. I love to imagine what she would be like in today’s music world and what she would be writing. But the two albums were enough to keep me listening for a lifetime. This song won an Ivor Novello award and I think it is real art.
Jealous - Labrinth I’m jealous I didn’t write this song. I think this song is on most people’s I WISH lists and does it even need explaining!?!
33”GOD” - Bon Iver What do the lyrics mean? How do you pronounce Bon Iver? What does the title mean? How do you even arrive at this song when you start writing?! The production is so game changing and the Bon Iver SOUND is so unique and has affected the entire music industry, seeping in to pop and mainstream. Even Taylor knows. But this song is the one I played on repeat. I still don’t know the lyrics but I know I feel like a firecracker underwater when I listen to it and that can’t be a bad thing.
Rude Boy - Rihanna This is one of the sexiest songs ever. It changed how I thought about women and what it means to be comfortable in yourself and your own sexuality. I’m just gonna leave it at that.
Retrograde - James Blake “SUDDENLY I’M HIT” and my entire brain blows off. I played this on repeat when I moved to London and when I finally met him a year or two later I said probably nothing of consequence and likely made an arse of myself but what I should of said was “retrograde changed my life”. It shaped how I think about production, made me think about synths and the interaction between organic and synthetic sounds and the use of a songwriter’s song in a non traditional setting. James sets the bar so high for all of us and we just jump around trying to come anywhere close.
4 notes
·
View notes
Text
Can I go on a Rant about Netflix's Tall Girl? *LONG POST*
*Note* The charator's names are not the same as in the movie, as the movie is unclear about what their names are, I even had subtitles on, and honestly can not tell you their names, non-the-less how to spell them
*Note 2* I am bad at spell, don't have my glasses and it's late, so bare with the middle-school spelling(also the color and the spacing are to not only help me keep track of what I'm writing, but anyone who has a hard time reading long things)
*Note 3* SPOILERS duh
Okay, so I am in no way 'tall' I'm barley the hight to be an astronaut, so I don't have much say in 'how it's so hard to be a tall girl'
Non the less I thought this would be a fun movie to watch with my best friend, who is a year younger than me, but taller, (The only friends I have that aren't taller than me, are the children I watch)
We are both in highschool, and have watch Netflix's orignal teen romcoms before, and loved the ones we watch, little cheesy, but still a good watch for weekly movie night.
I knew from the description of the movie before it came out, it was going to be an overload of cheesy-ness, but it seemed like a good laugh, like the kid of movies one watches for the pure stupid 'hello fellow kids' stuff.
The opening scene itself was something we thought was funny, from the color coded library (I use to volunteer at a library, so I def noticed it) to the fact that the girl who is suppose to be torrmentted for being tall, isn't reconized by not one, but TWO boys who go to HER school until she stands up.
We thought this was just cheesy fun, and her older brother even sat down to watch some of the begining, just to see if they asked her, what the weather was like up there, which they did, atleast five time, and was almost the only thing the 'bullies' actually bullied her about
I want to be clear I am extremly ANTI-bully, and so is my friends, her brother got bullied when he was young, and would get beat up, and even among their younger sibblings, bullying is NOT allowed.
So, there is some stuff behind when I say, Tall Girl wasn't really bullied, but more so teased. Now I know how small comments can over take someone's life, but the way that Tall Girl put it, she was more of a bully to her self than anyone else.
The 'iconic' scene of Tall Girl walking down the hall had us all stop, while my friend's brother pointed out she was literally friends with some one who is a minority (and later shown to be pressured at home to follow a strict life path and not one they want to) And my friend explained how, if Tall Girl wanted to make her life seem worse via shoe size, that she should have gone with a different brand, since Nike makes their shoes bigger, (Now that I think of it, this is def product placement)
Through out the movie Tall girl drags her friends through the mud, and yet plays the victem card the entire time, even though there are bigger issues that could be addressed, such as, the competing her sister does, and the pressure that is placed on her to be more, The social differenaces for the Transfer Student, the Beauty standards placed on girls, ANYTHING ELSE.
The way Tall Girl acts is nothing like any teen I have ever seen, it felt like a terrible 80s teen movie that died before production. I understand that they were trying to 'break' the teen romcom 'code' by making the mean girl not a dumb blonde, and have Tall Girl not get back with Transfer Student at the end, but they ended up with the exact opposite.
Most teens are not looking for a S.O.
Being tall is not a major hinder on a highschooler's life (espically being 6ft 1.5 inches)
Physical things that can not be changed are not something that most people even notice, non the less complain about on OTHER PEOPLE
Teens are more concerned about the STATE OF THE WORLD than any of the 2d personallity traits given to the main character
The most realistic/likeable character(s) were
1. Girl with glasses
2. Boy in the background of the scene in the science class balancing a pencil on his face
3.Tall Girl's father, who does everything he could think of to make his daughter happy and "normal"
4. Tall Girl's O.T. who was actually cultured in the world, really liked the Transfer Student, didn't know about him cheating, tried to be a good wing-girl to her best friend, even after he said that Tall Girl was hotter
5.Dudly(?) Crate-Boy who despite being possesive over Tall Girl in the movie scene, tells Transfer Student to do the right thing, which not just is so Tall Girl won't get the guy, but so Transfer Student doen't lead on the Multi-lingual Girl, which is solid advise anyway
6. Maya Hart, aka Tall Girl's sister. Through-out the movie we see Maya continusly working hard to acheive her personal goals, and simply try to be a good big sister. Though her advice to Tall Girl to fight for Transfer Student isn't the kind a rational person would give to someone, who just kissed a person in a relationship, we can really see how hard Maya is working towards her goals, and how much she wants to help her sister, as seen in the I Liked It When You Needed Me scene
7. Even though Pink hair girl doen't get a personallity in the script besides being into fashion and being an awesome amazing friend, She deserves better by Tall Girl, and her out burst at Tall Girl throwing her-self a pitty party, even though Tall Girl has all the tools to succesed in life, all the support, and everything she needs, except for a romance that, even Tall Girl's sister said was doomed from the begining
The begining of the film, gave off B-rated fun, but slowly moved down hill, as if this was the rock that us teens are forced to push up hill in this afterlife.
Tall Girl, herself slowly but steadly became more and more toxic, not only to herself, as she was in the start, but to her friends, family and classmates too.
At the start, her toxicity was contained in self pitty, which would have been a wonderful plot for the movie, being a tall inscure highschool girl, who finds her place in life, with her friends ad family, learning to love herself. Unfortunitly that's not what happened.
Tall Girl puts all of her energy and worth into finding a boyfriend, and I can't stress this enough, WHILE IN HIGHSCHOOL! I know everyone has heard it before, but the highschool years, though they seem all important, aren't that important, Humans are living into their 100s now, 4 akward years, where people just like you are trying to surive aren't going to make as big of a dent in your life as they use to make. Her friends, would probably be the only thing that she would take past the highschool years, if she wasn't so toxic
Tall Girl reminded me very much so of early 2010-2013, which may not seem like a long time ago, but it is almost 2020. Many of the traits Tall Girl showed are traits that many people stopped exibiting in 2016.
The only emotional smart charactors are Glasses and Dad,
While it IS a teen romcom, and so one would expect many 'crazy' ideas and things, This doesn't mean modern teens can't tell what toxic behavior is. I know the closer one is to the person, the hard the traits are to reconize, but just being aware of other people, and a general nice person one can see where the toxic traits are, even, if not more so in ones-self
The only time this movie seemed aware of the differance between the real world and the movie was the mother stating that her hardships in highschool was turning down all the boys that asked her to prom, and then Tall Girl rolls her eyes, and there is a very obvisous nod to the fact that being to popular is not really that much of a hardship to face
Many people often look on the 'Crate-Boy uses the crate to kiss Tall Girl' scene as romantic, and I will not tell them they are wrong for believing so, as everyone has their own perspective. I for one though saw it as Tall Girl still getting undeserved attention, and what she wanted.
The Prom scene is a prime example of this. Tall Girl doesn't like that Multi-Lingul Girl and Transfer Student are prom king & queen, and so, instead of letting them have their 15 sec of fame, she goes on stage, unanounced, Which I believe is not allowed at most proms, and make a speech, (usally these speaches show how the main charactor has changed for the better, and will not be forced to be what they are not)
This speach how ever, comes across as an ego boost, espically if one keeps in mind the very first scene where the two boy in her school didn't even know who she was. She goes on stage an makes a speach about how she is impowered by being tall and no one will make her feel bad about it.
This on paper sounds like it would be a real turning point, except THE MAIN CHARACTOR DOESN'T LEARN
Tall Girl faces no conciqueses for pushing her best friend (pink hair) to the side and using her as an emotional punching bag, she 'gets the guy' that she treated the EXACT SAME WAY SHE DIDN'T want to be treated, and nor is her self-pitty problem solved
All in all, this movie was insufferable, unrealistic, made my friend and I root for the 'villians' and side charators, and somehow make a film where it would be better off with the main charator being a side charator
I would really love to meet the writers and see the teens they are around, to see how they possible could have though such a toxic thing was okay to show to teens, espically the way they try to frame it as 'Goals'
***This is in no way against the actors/actresses that played in the film, nor those who helped backstage, (ex makeup, sets, etc) this is more aimed towards the writers of the script, and whoever thought that this was something good for teens.
#tall girl#netflix#teenager#teen#romcom#romance#movies#movienight#movie night#teen drama#review#long reads#long post#adhd friendly#rant#sorry for the rant#rants n rambles
9 notes
·
View notes
Note
can u please explain what an phanti//anti is (like moree specifically)? ive only really ever seen ppl talk about dan & phil from the perspective of they’re (prob) together or they don’t feel comfortable with speculation/don’t care either way
oh my god anon i’m so glad that things have changed so much that this is the culture now. oh my god i’m so glad you don’t know what a phanti is
i think in the most basic sense of the word, a phanti is someone who believes that dan and phil are heterosexual, and that they’re just friends, and that shippers are super disrespectful/being bad people for forcing the idea that the two of them might be together on them & in their faces. phantis tend to think we’re seeing things that aren’t there/making things up, and they’re really, really shitty in the ways they aggressively will argue with people about it. they have blinders on, essentially, when it comes to the ways dan and phil have been subtly coming out for the past few years.
and an anti is someone who’s opposed to a ship? so like ok cool, that’s a fair word to have made up, but most of the time that you see that being used on tumblr, i’d be wary. a lot of people who talk about antis in general on tumblr are complaining about being criticized for fetishizing mlm or shipping unhealthy ships, and i’m going to go into more detail about that under the cut but i’m gonna put a few trigger warnings first bc it’s some potentially triggering reasons that people get criticized and then pull out the word anti.
the overall point about the general word anti is: it means someone who’s against a ship, but usually if people are making posts about how antis suck and you shouldn’t police other’s enjoyment of fandom, be wary/check out OP’s blog before reblogging because it might be someone defending a really shitty stance.
(for under the cut: csa tw/, pedophilia tw/, incest tw/, rape tw/; i’m having a serious discussion of toxic parts of fandom under the cut so please take my trigger warnings seriously and gauge your comfort level/whether it’s healthy for you to click to the read more. i don’t want to feel responsible for causing hurt, and the discussion under the cut doesn’t have any information that’s not explained in broad strokes in the main body of my post.)
oftentimes people who use the word anti are adults who shipping an adult character with a minor & not listening when people tell them that doing so supports pedophilic attitudes & contributes to societal grooming of minors to be abused by predatory adults; this is the most common original poster of things about how antis need to stop policing others’ enjoyment of fandom, and i’ve seen a number of people who describe themselves as fandom moms who also behave in this way. typically the antis in this specific scenario are minors who are saying that the adult’s actions are making them uncomfortable, and the adult will mobilize their larger follower base against the minor who spoke up about their discomfort.
and i’m not talking like, an 18/19 year old who’s shipping two characters of a similar age to themself together when one is still like 16/17; that’s different; i’m talking like. someone who’s 20+, usually mid twenties or older, who describes themself as a fandom mom and who will not listen to criticism or people who tell them that they’ve been made uncomfortable. i’m not saying that all fandom moms are like this, i’m just saying that i’ve seen it enough times that i get wary when i see someone constantly and proudly self defining as a fandom mom.
other times the unhealthy ship will be incest, or will be focused on dub con/non con. and there’s a place for that in fandom; i know that there’s a lot of people who process traumas through writing fic about characters that they relate deeply to, and rape survivors and survivors of incest should have a space in which to do that, too. i’m not talking about that kind of fan content though; there’s people who get pissed about being criticized for eroticizing rape, incest, and dub con, and for romanticizing abusive, unhealthy relationships, and when they get pissed for the valid criticisms people are bringing up, they roll out the word anti and start getting self righteous.
fandom is a really wonderful place for the most part, but a lof of minors get exposed to extremely toxic ideas by adults and those ideas get normalized through the constant repitition. that normalization can leave a kid vulnerable to manipulation by predatory adults, or lead to the adoption of unhealthy behaviors or a kid being put into unsafe situations. this especially happens due to the way that sex is discussed in fan spaces without regard to age a lot of the time.
i really want all minors to be safe, and i think talking about this is important, because none of the adults i was following when i was a minor were discussing this even though it should be the adult’s responsibility to protect minors and make sure they’re not interacting sexually with young people, even when it’s about a fandom, not about people’s personal sex lives. this is a hill that i’m willing to die on, and although i turned out okay and didn’t end up in any bad situations, i know that i was exposed to some super toxic ideas through fandom when i was growing up and i did internalize a fair amount of shit.
so. yeah. beware people who use the word anti and if you’re an adult reading this, don’t behave sexually with minors on the internet. nobody tells us that it’s our responsibility to protect minors on the internet, but it is, and this is me telling you that if you’ve not already realized it yourself.
#den posts#den chats#ty for the ask anon sorry for getting preachy in the readmore about toxicity in fandom#anon#den replies#den thoughts#adults in fandom
39 notes
·
View notes
Note
Even as someone who dislikes Dany, it felt weird and umcomfortable to read a lot of biased metas who would tell awful things about her (of which some are partially true but if they are pointed out with ill intentions and out of hate instead of with argumentation it falls flat for me) in order to defend a ship but for what's worth from the outside it is pretty easy to distinguish the older and new jonsa shippers and I dont think people conflate the two groups This said keep enjoying the fandom :)
idk, from the point of view of someone who was not aware that a Jonsa fandom even existed before it exploded during season 6, I think it’s pretty normal to conflate the two groups. But I should clarify that I’m not concerned with being equated with “”””bad”””” shippers. The people I respect in this fandom are too clever to believe that all fans of (x) are a hivemind. I don’t care for everyone else.
My frustration comes from the fact that all this Dany hate is stifling the Jonsa discourse when it would have still so much to offer otherwise, with less divisive arguments. Instead it seems like Dany is the hill people are going to die on, when she shouldn’t have anything to do with the ship and there are plenty of ways to discuss a possible endgame scenario that don’t revolve around constantly shitting on her. I actually really enjoy reading jonsa meta, even of the “will be canon!” kind, but the constant villainization of Dany is ruining it for me, because I don’t consider it a valid or productive argument. Making villain!Dany the linchpin of your ship discourse invalidates the whole thought process, because a) she’s clearly not; b) insisting that she is has a counterproductive effect on neutral fans, as it alienates from jonsa more people than it attracts; c) it actually doesn’t prove anything. Even if Dany were a villain, that doesn’t mean Jon can’t fall in love with her or that his feelings must be insincere. Good people fall for villains all the time, and Jon is not necessarily a paragon of virtue himself.
Anon #2, I had to edit your ask because I’m not going to address publicly that sort of accusations towards specific users, especially since I have zero first hand knowledge of what happened either way. But I wanted to discuss this:
I’m am so sick and tired of people thinking we don’t like Daenerys just because we ship Jonsa. There are A MILLION valid reasons not to like her that have nothing at all to do with shipping 😒
Of course there are plenty of good reasons to be critical of her. Her storyline and arc and narrative tropes are intentionally divisive and meant to inspire a discussion in the audience. And I certainly don’t think that being a shipper invalidates your perspective on things—hey, I’m a shipper too!
But would you commit to write tons of meta on how Dany is a villain, if that weren’t inextricably connected to (your idea of) endgame jonsa? I only started to see floods of Dany-critical meta in this corner of the fandom after it became clear she would make Jon unavailable. Before that, non-Dany fans were pretty content ignoring her, or just throwing the occasional remark about how they didn’t like her. It’s pretty obvious that one thing is fueling the other.
In my experience, people— even on this hellsite—only go analytical on the stuff they hate if there’s an upside to it, be it to elevate your favourite ship/character/idea by contrast, defend your interpretation of the story, gain discourse points or bond over shared hatred for something. But it’s rarely “oh I really dislike (x) so I guess I’m going to spend hours and hours analyzing in depth how (x) is bad without this bearing any relevance whatsoever to the things I like, or consider right and wholesome”. It’s generally “put (x) down to prop (y) up”, even if the latter is not immediately transparent. I think it would be disingenuous to pretend that this link doesn’t exist.
Story time: in earlier fandom days of mine, there was a character I and some other fans really disliked, who was was incidentally the main obstacle to our otp happening. Long story short, we became really invested in a subset of theories about how he was actually a villain all along, and how the narrative would eventually expose him as such (sounds familiar?). There were tons of brilliant, researched, incredibly analytical meta about it. The idea was that eventually there would be a 180° perspective shift, corresponding to the heroine’s finally opening her eyes on his nature. This interpretation was hardly unfounded—the character was a liar, an emotional abuser, a canonical rapist and former slave owner, and there were a lot of shady aspects to the way he had initiated his relationship with the heroine. However, it was also painfully clear that he was “the” male lead and that the writers loved to romanticize him just as much as they liked playing with his darker aspects. Fast forward to the final season and we never had the big villain reveal we wanted—and boy did I feel like an idiot for even believing that could happen.
The story I played in my mind was interesting—I still think it is—but ultimately it wasn’t the story the writers were telling. There were plenty of signs that it wasn’t. As it turned out, ~controversial but beloved hero is revealed to be a villain~ isn’t a very popular trope. Mainstream fiction is usually geared towards the exact opposite (see: redemption arcs).
But also, in hindsight, now I understand that I fell down the rabbit hole with that theory because it allowed me to fantasize about a scenario in which the heroine would finally get over the *bad* character and fall in love with my fave instead. Did I have legitimate reason to be critical of that character? I can guarantee I had A LOT. But was shipping + viscerally disliking that character my main motivator in this? YES.
My point is, you can absolutely hate a character JUST BECAUSE it gets in the way of your ship. Sometimes things are just that simple. It’s completely normal, it’s par for the course, I think we’ve all had that gut reaction at one point in our fandom life. But don’t dress it up as something deeper or more serious than that (don’t get so sucked into your rationalizations that you start to believe them), and don’t be surprised if it alienates other fans. Because it does! Back to my story, now that I’m older and wiser I can see how all our tinhatting and obsessing over our nemesis made the fandom toxic and alienated a lot of neutral fans, let alone fans of that character & relative ship, who were basically silenced since the get go. Which sucks.
Tinhatting is wonderful, it’s one of the reasons I do fandom the way I do, but tinhatting that consistently hinges on hatred and negativity against a specific character tends to get tiring and toxic, not to mention lose validity on a meta level. This is how I see it, but feel free to make of this what you like.
#anon#asks#got wank#got for ts#got asks for ts#ship wank#anti dany bs#daenerys targaryen for ts#jon x sansa for ts#jon x dany for ts#discourse#ship discourse#fandom discourse
37 notes
·
View notes