#just know i dont hate them and kris is still a lesbian icon. to me.

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What is your beef with joker out?

on one hand im scared of their fans so i will say for the sake of not being hunted down by the baby boos: im not seriously beefing with them i just think its funny especially since my partner loves them. and as someone on kätwt i am forced against my will to know about these twinks anyway i might as well fight em in a tesco car park. they live in the uk rn i can do that now.

on the other hand, the whole thing where theyre touring in about a month (so i get the vibe this is all very last minute ngl) and instead of having a fixed opener theyre opening 'applications' (through social media, so it'll just be a numbers game ultimately) for fans local to each show to open, completely unpaid, feels.... weird to me. like, if you aren't going to pay an opener, the least you can do is not take advantage of the parasocial relationship your fans have with you for free labour. they could contact artists in a professional capacity where there isnt a power imbalance that will make them less likely to say no. from what i can tell, a lot of the artists applying that have a decent amount of fan support are professional artists anyway. like they couldve just done that.

also, these lads are in their 20s. they know how twitter works. they know what social media is like. and quite frankly if they werent already aware of the reputation their fanbase has maybe the fact that some artists have already started attacking others wanting to open the same show as them will make them aware. im not saying the fact that this has pitted their fans against each other is jo's fault. but i do think at least using a private application form rather than using social media wouldve been a much smarter choice. like i said, this all feels very last minute to me. if it weren't perhaps they wouldve put more thought into this.

ALSO this is nothing against anyone applying. i know ppl who are applying and i wish them nothing but the best <3 i just think these twinks should pay up

all this, especially when this technically isnt the first time theyve used their fans for free labour. them moderating their official discord... i get a few fan moderators but i witnessed the rusty quill discord implode as a result of this sorta thing. its never a great idea, especially for a large public open server thats bound to get some nasty trolls.

im begging these leads to get a social media manage or pr guy or SOMETHING bc i dont get the vibe that this is intentional, just that they keep not thinking things through and quite frankly theres only so many more fuck ups before i start beefing with them for real