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i feel like people only say “leon’s family was in the mafia” bc one thing calls him italian (despite his last name being irish/scottish and his middle name literally being scott) and another thing mentions his family dying in an accident bc they were involved in crime but neither of those things were actually from the games iirc
EXACTLY! Like, it’s this weird thing where in Resident Evil, we get a shit ton of supplemental material from people who are kinda authority for the series, so like voice actors, character artists, authors who work with Capcom, etc. But the thing is, those people dont override the directors, producers, and writers for the GAMES and MOVIES (at least thats how I see it).
For those unaware, Leon being Italian-American is mentioned by Isao Oshi (the guy who designed the characters in RE1 and RE2) in “Capcom Design Works,” a book thats pretty much ONLY available in Japan and was released all the way back in 2001. What he said on one of the pages was, “When I created Leon, I had an Italian American with a pet bloodhound in mind.”
I’m not saying that Leon isn’t or can’t be Italian-American but to me personally, it seems like just a stepping stone for the designer to work on Leon. As far as I can tell, Hideki Kamiya didnt tell Isao Oshi to make Leon Italian-American. But okay, let’s table that and now discuss the lore around his parents.
This comes from the sixth volume of the CFC Style Fan-Book Cap!, which came out in 1998. It featured sort of “interviews” between Claire and Leon about RE2. This is also available in Japanese and has been translated to English. In this “interview,” Leon says that his family was involved in “heinous crimes” and lost them all at once. (X)
I don’t know how I feel about these books. I personally don’t consider them canon because it was like a fun little section in a newsletter and there’s stuff in Claire’s section that people never mention (like her having lots of boyfriends). But again! It’s so hard and annoying because of these grey areas in terms of authority. The CFC book is made and published by Capcom, so it should be canon, right? but then these things are NEVER mentioned in any main materials!
Honestly it’s like what I said in a previous post, where a reason why Resident Evil fans fight so much is because even Capcom isn’t sure what’s canon or not in its own franchise.
#ask#also disclaimer: if you think leon is italian american and has a mafia family#then go ahead! we have no backstories for any character#if you headcanon that thats perfectly okay#but all i’m saying is that theres so much of resident evil fun facts that have very wobbly foundations#rant: i also wanted to talk about the sd perry novels but thats a whole other post#the damage those books have done to the resident evil continuity…..#ALSO capcom works with thousands of people#realistically there is going to be conflicting information#especially when they outsource to third parties for supplemental material#just because something has capcoms name on it doesnt mean its a fact in the series
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The ones that suffer the most
I wanted to talk about this for a long time.
I’m a Resident evil addicted, I finished almost every RE game released and I must say that Capcom made some poor choices regarding Jill and Chris, they are EASILY the most mistreated characters in RE Franchise.
But let’s explain why is that:
Jill and Chris are survivors, they had to survive in a mansion with a lot of puzzles and zombies, while looking for items that could help them to progress and find a way to reach Brad.
When they arrive at STARS Office, they are revolted that Umbrella did all that under their noses and innocents were dying because of that and they explained EVERYTHING in a report - but Irons made that go away.
In the ORIGINAL RE3 we had this special file (Jill’s Diary)
August 7th Two weeks have passed since that day. My wounds have been healed, but I just can't forget it. For most people, it's history now. But for me, whenever I close my eyes, it all comes back clearly. Zombies eating people's flesh and the screams of my teammates dying. No, the wounds in my heart are not healed yet...
August 13th Chris has been causing a lot of trouble recently. What's with him? He seldom talks to the other police members and is constantly irritated. The other day, he punched Elran of the Boy's Crime department just for accidentally splashing Chris's face with coffee. I immediately stopped Chris, but when he saw me he just gave me a wink and walked away. I wonder what happened to him...
August 15th Midnight. Chris, who has been on a leave of absence for a "vacation," called me so I visited his apartment. As soon as I walked into his room, he showed me a couple of pieces of paper. They were part of a virus research report entitled as simply as "G". Then Chris told me that, "The nightmare still continues." He went on to say that, "It's not over yet." Ever since that day, he has been fighting all by himself without rest, without even telling me.
August 24th Chris left the town today to go to Europe. Barry told me that he would send his family to Canada and then he would follow Chris. I decided to remain in Raccoon City for a while because I know that the research facility in this city will be very important to this entire case. In a month or so, I'll be joining with them somewhere in Europe. That's when my real battle begins...
For some weird reason this file isn’t available in RE3 Remake.
But ok, here we see that Chris was doing some investigation - in the RE2RMK you could see this letter that Chris left in a way that normal people wouldn't understand - the only thing that Claire says is that “doesnt look like him” but how normies would understand what Chris is like is he is not well represented in media ??????????????????
And Jill had all the detective work in her wall.
So far so good - we understand the basics about them - they are Special police force, the elite, they had a traumatic experience and they survived to tell the story.
Some problems until now:
Jill had a MAJOR personality change in RE3 RMK- I honestly like most of that, she is a badass in the originals and she is a badass in the rmk but I still dislike the fact that she swears all the time (specially because in RE1, RE Rev, RE5 she doesn't do that)
We can tell a lot about her personality just looking at her room, but I still miss some stuff (I had expectations - so this is not a real problem. but still) like a Vinyl player (since she is probably into classical music), some letters from her father so new players can understand her origin and why is she so good in lockpicking and more about her dog (she had a pic in the original that could’ve been her boyfriend but it was replaced by a dog in RE2 rmk but in RE3 Rmk there in no dog)
Okay - after you finish the game the only thing we see is this:
In my opinion this is Chris since he is always associated with Green colors while Jill is associated with blue.
So my speculation here is that she found him while in the original we had this:
This is not a major chance but still is important (lore of course - duh) but the problem here is that while Jill is looking for him - Code Veronica is happening.
So I can only assume two things, they did not show him because they DON’T HAVE A FACE FOR HIM or I am wrong and that is Jill, but if that is Jill so why there is no decent epilogue like the original ?
Okay, now we are arriving in the real trouble area
I will do RE5 first and the Wii and Rev1 (even tho those two comes first in the lore)
RESIDENT EVIL 5
So before the game was release we had some propaganda, including this:
So have in mind that Jill was dead, I thought that she died and RE5 would explain that shit.
But in the beginning we see that Chris is looking for her and have in mind that Chris HAD A MAJOR CHANCE IN HIS APPEARANCE, and I’m not talking about his muscles.
I will not address Chris in CV since he was good in that game but I the team that made CV also made the original, it had CONSISTENCE.
Here we have Chris, he’s THE classical american soldier protagonist from Hollywood in the 80′s/90′s and he had some omage to TOPGUN
He also shares some traits with his sister
A major trait here is that HE HAS BLUE EYES, typical good looking soldier from US.
and now let’s have a look at Chris in RE5...
Yeah... I still hate this face even tho I love his Character in this game, this ugly a** monkey looking mf and he had a lot of steroids
So we have some lore to him in RE5, Jill and Chris went to a mansion looking for Spencer (one of the fathers of Umbrella and the one that was behind project Wesker, he wanted to do this Virus so he could live forever, so RE has a good lore, it’s not just about zombies) but when they found him, he was dead and Wesker was by his side, in a fight Jill sacrificed herself to save Chris’s life.
Chris started doing mission after mission because her body was never found, and he made a name for himself, he became a ‘legend’ inside BSAA and you can see that in the beginning of RE5.
The reason behind the muscles was probably to fight Wesker mano to mano but still is not well made, it really felt weird playing for the first time.
So now we have a problem here, there is thing that you use in a narrative that is to make someone strong af powerless, and they did that to Jill. (a good example of this is in TWD- Ricky is a fucking legend and Negan made him powerless in the face of a event)
Jill was used in a Boss fight and that is it... She is not in the game as a character, she is being manipulated and her whole design was changed, she looks like Nina from Tekken. WTF. - BTW, the fact that Wesker had mind control over her created 1000 fics of sex
So that is it, my main problem here isnt Jill itself, but it’s the fact that they used her character as a boss even tho she is the heroine, she never appears in RE lore again until some guy inside Capcom said “Well people are asking about Jill so let’s place a file in Rev2 saying that she is in rehab”
The only time that she appears again is in a 3DS NINTENDO ONLY game, it felt that Capcom simply don’t care about her character.
By the way Revelations 1 is a great game and was adaptable some years later for PC and consoles
But you think that this is bad, wait until we arrive at RESIDENT EVIL 6
When I learned that Jill was not in RE6 I was mad... But after I played that game I said “thank you God” that game was bad, transformers kind of bad, it had bad writing, the lore was all over the place and Chris was the one that suffered the most in this game.
He was responsible for the death of an entire squad, suffered amnesia and people still wanted him in the command
THEY MADE HIM AN ALCOHOLIC
The golden boy of BSAA reduced to THIS.
By the way, the director said that HE WANTED TO KILL CHRIS IN THIS GAME to SUBVERT EXPECTATIONS - so if you liked Piers now that he died only because of that.
So now let’s analyse what we know:
The first 2 main characters are not well represented in media until RE6, they don’t know how to re introduce Jill in the games and Chris was reduced to a normal guy at a Russian bar;
But it gets worse...
Capcom LOVE Leon, we know that. he is always the hero, he is the protagonist in almost every movie and he is always the cool guy so when he get’s a new model, he looks like this:
But When Chris get’s a new face he look like this:
WHO DAFUQ ARE U, no offense to the model but he has NEGATIVE JAW LINE.
And still he doesn't look like Claire’s brother, there is no blue/green eyes and he looks younger that he was in 6 (and 6 still uses that ugly character model)
But let’s go in the lore- we HAVE 0 info on Jill in RE6 / RE7 and no sight of her in RE8
And speaking of which, they tried to make Chris the bad guy in the trailer so when we play we see “Ohhhh he was not the bad guy, that happened and that is why he did that”
But still...
If they are going to do that to his character don’t use this character, shit ! Do something with that Wesker’s son that made 0 sense in RE6 but leave Chris out of this - it really feels that they simply don’t know how to treat him right
And you may think that I may be complaining a lot because of his appearance
But this is him in RE8
(to me this is some random dude from Russia)
And this is him in RE:Verse (that is going to be release TOGETHER)
So this tells me that they have 0 clue of how to handle his looks
Jill got RE3Rmk but it felt like a cheap game compared to RE2Rmk where the original RE3 was SO MUCH BETTER
And this is bad because there are so many new fans joining the fandom only to see 2 great characters suffering from poor director’s choices.
I’m sorry about this rant, if you like Chris face and looks its okay, really, but dont tell me that Chris from 5/6/8 is the same from 1/CV and if you think im wrong about Jill its fine, but she is an amazing character that could have so much more impact in RE universe (I mean, she never even appeared in a RE movie - animations)
But it’s sad to see so many characters that receive good representation in media and good games/lore while Jill get’s almost none and Chris is handled like random face guy.
I was going to talk a little bit more about Rev 1 and RE Umbrella Chronicles but there is no need since Im mad right now and it seems that Capcom has 0 interest in making Code Veronica and Umbrella’s fall after that since their fav boy Leon need a rmk in RE4 even tho RE4 is not that old.
Bonus:
Fun fact: Chris served in the Air force, so yeah, to me even Tom Cruise looks more like Chris than Chris from the games
#resident evil#resident#evil#chris#redfield#Jill#valentine#resident evil 8#rant#capcom#Claire Redfield#leon scott kennedy#visual#valenfield#topgun#capcom dont know how to handle good characters#directors wanting to kill chris#now he could be a werewolf#for fucks sake#at least#ethan#is being handled better#than they are#good job capcom#very nice indeed#now im going to watch top gun#just for fun#reverse#re verse#resident evil 3
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“at least the jury is still out on that one, so to speak”
so to speak is right, phoenix :T
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“I WANTED TO KILL YOU. WAAHHHH”
ok rayfa. easy there.
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aw. the dad is so strong that he cant even bear to see the murder brat sad.
hdgdhfgh im gonna die he’s trying to cheer her up by acting like the bad guy
at the risk of sounding tumblry, phoenix wright is a cinnamon roll, to pure or whatever
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...is this kooraheen’s ‘happy people’?
.....i don't like it
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ahlbi doesn’t get to be an assistant but he does get to carry all my unwanted crap!
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“first the high priest, and then his disciple! maya fey will pay for this!”
ah yes, she’ll pay for killing off people we recently proved to be dangerous insurgents.
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WHOA OK GRAPHIC
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well ok there’s no possible way Maya could have killed him that night.
“they think she came down the stairs and stabbed him” yes in front of 200 praying people. no, they weren't looking up but probably the sound of a knife being driven into flesh and also footsteps may have alerted them???
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rayfa wants to know how a time of death is determined, not for real... but because she wants to know what the idiot groundlings believe ?
either she’s an idiot and she doesn’t realize its completely legitimate, or the writers are still trying to make fun of religion via the “science and religion don't mix” joke which quite frankly is getting REALLY TIRESOME
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ok... well I'm not scientific expert but doesn’t the body eventually reach a steady temperature? how could you determine how long the body took to cool down if it was cooled down for a long enough period of time? also, it was really cold on that mountain.
something tells me this will be useful later.
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again capcom, pointing out how unlikely your plot is doesnt make it better. it makes it worse.
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“I will curse you and your disciples for eight generations!”
I'm pretty sure apollo and the series has already been cursed, mrs. inmee.
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every time she kisses his picture i cry
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Zehlot arrived at the same time as Maya, but Mrs. Inmee is more inclined to believe that Maya is a murderer? I mean yes she supposedly killed off the other two, but jeez. Talk about favouritism.
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they let us check out the trash again... simply for a joke about phoenix digging through trash. I'm not sure how to feel about this.
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katchu-dehmal, eh? Pokémon gonna sue
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hey um mrs. inmee
you've got a little something on your wrist...............
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“Puhray always prayed a lot”
the terrible naming convention just makes that sound incredibly stupid
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“She may say these terrible things, but it was just the way she was raised, I guess”
um... a lesson in tolerance i guess
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“I didn’t know him very well”
you didnt know the guy you stayed with for two years?? man i guess Puhray really did pray the most.
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i love that theyre mentioning ramen and burgers
and also that phoenix is offering to buy for maya
its the little things that make this game liveable
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everybody loves steel samurai!!!
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“Whooops... its coming undone... WHOA!”
yes, it is indeed a very sexy picture. nice legs.
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“tentacled hag frog”
what is this, last airbender??
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“a spirit’s memory is cut off at the moment of death”
well of course. that’s how Mia was able to come to court knowing what was going on and being able to set phoenix on the right direction!
genius retcon there, guys. I guess that’s why Mia doesn’t make a comeback in this game :/
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“helped neighbouring countries seek counsel”
actually thats an interesting callback to the original games where they state that before DL-6, Misty and Kurain village were famous for helping out people in high places. this i do not mind so much.
... though i doubt this would prevent you being invaded, Kooraheen. Also considering she mentions ‘keeping their unique culture’ as an aside to that fact, and the fact that a lot of this fictional country is based off of Tibet... Ouch.
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“ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!!”
hey, there’s that ol’ Khumerican spirit!
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“so the queen can perform the dance of devotion? that’d be a sight to see”
Phoenix stop imaging the queen in a mini skirt.
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“theres no reason to panic, the police are on his trail”
the police that let him run on foot out of a crowded courtroom.
id say you can panic now.
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in exchange for his visual youthfulness, phoenix has physically aged considerably.
meanwhile, Gregory Edgeworth was rocking major wrinkles at 35 and he was fit as a fiddle.
Oh Capcom, when will your beauty-based cruelty end??
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are we legit going to search for Datz
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ok now i rly wanna hear what a Warb’aad sounds like.
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further proof that phoenix is a huge carnivore. i am pleased.
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boy kooraheen isn't very accessible is it. stairs everywhere
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i love that no matter where he is, phoenix is always buying food for children.
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alright enough fun stuff. into the absurdly spacious sewer we go!
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I'm legitimately laughing my ass off why is it so funny that Ahlbi didn’t know his dog could track scents????
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AAA WE’RE IN
WE’RE IN A FUCKIN SEWER
IM YELLIN
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...oh my god no... i stg... dont you dare
OH GOD
OHHH GOD
fuck....
i dont know who’s stupider: the rebels or the police
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he... can eat... an entire apple... that is half the size of his face... in one bite.
this, truly, is a man to be feared
ranger hobo, your new nickname is Potential Vore Machine
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>phoenix likes apples
further proof he is a good boy
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wow thats even worse
i thought they’d just put their base in the sewers, but no; their base is an OLD LAW OFFICE AKA THE FIRST PLACE YOU’D LOOK FOR LAWYER REBELS
again, not sure who’s stupider: the rebels, or the police?
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“public enemy #1 is a lawyer? didnt see that coming”
clearly you expect more from this game, phoenix
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“Im gonna sell out my best friend!”
>doubt
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OH OK NEVER LOOK SURPRISED AGAIN CLOSE YOUR VORE MOUTH JESUS CHRIST
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if he wasnt a rebel anymore he'd have kicked your ass since youre a lawyer, phoenix. its not that hard to put together that he’s lying. ...for some reason.
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LAME. YOU cant show him your badge??? bullshit.
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fucking christ even when he whistles his mouth is larger than it should be.
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he really is rebel!larry isn’t he
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so Dhurke has a power glare, huh?
GLARE OFF WITH EDGEWORTH, GLARE OFF WITH EDGEWORTH, GLARE OFF WITH EDGEWORTH
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“is this a law book? the dragon’s mark has been branded onto the cover...”
pfffttt edgy
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hmm. must be a new law-book if the defence culpability act is in it, since if i remember correctly that law was only recently introduced.
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i love that Dhurke’s shit is just everywhere in this stupid house
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...no way is he actually doing to
i...
like
i can’t even say punk’d. Phoenix, why would you try on a jacket that once belonged to a rebel leader while inside a rebel base that you’re not even sure is friendly to you?
like i
sense of preservation just goes out the window at the idea of looking cool?? actually to be fair that kind of makes sense for Phoenix so
phoenix you should take it home and get it dry-cleaned.
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“hmm this is an old photo...” says phoenix looking at a photo that’s as bright and shiny as the day it was taken. also he correctly guesses that it was taken 20 years ago based on... what evidence??
actually if he actually acknowledged that thats OBVIOUSLY APOLLO THERE then he’d have an actual metric to go by but NOPE! just bullshit magic deductions!
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yeah or Nahyuta’s pulling a long game and you assholes are too impatient
i cant believe I'm defending sadmad :/
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WAIT A SECOND. ARE YOU TELLING ME....... THAT KID WHO LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE APOLLO....... IS APOLLO?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?
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somehow Datz carried Phoenix through a tiny trapdoor and into this room huh
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yay psyche locks!
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YES!!!! YEEEEES!!! I GOT TO PRESENT MY BADGE
Soj... you may not be... completely horrible.
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yeah phoenix, he was going to stab you if he thought you were on the side of the Queen
feel even stupider about that jacket now?
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“Keera was working with the government the whole time?!”
well i mean what other motivation would they have? even if they were doing it for religious reasons that still lines up with the government’s intentions.
this whole thing has a blacklisting smell on it too.
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“a lawyer killed the queen, so the public turned against lawyers”
if that was how things worked, America would loath actors.
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“why does he have to jump like that before running off”
cause he’s a cartoon character
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“Well I guess we’re friends now”
oh phoenix
my lonely baby
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also where the fuck is Shah’do? That dog is a better policeman than every official in Kooraheen.
and i love that nobody notices people entering and exiting a sewer in broad daylight.
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well that was exactly where i thought it was
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WOW GOOD GOING PHOENIX YOU DUMBFUCK
“HURRRHH I THINK ILL GO FIDN TH SOOPER SECRET REBEL BASE WITH THE FUCKING PRINCESS IN-TOW. GENIUS!!!!”
OH YES, AND THEN TELL HER EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. AND THEN LET HER COME INSIDE WITH YOU WITHOUT THE INTENT TO SHUT HER UP
BRILLIANT!!
PHOENIX WRIGHT, TRULY THE REBEL’S GREATEST ALLY.
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ohhhhHHHHHhhhh
well well well well well well
this is interesting
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“I think I’ll take a picture of this super secret rebel base”
hhhnnngghhhh
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search every nook and cranny eh
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“if the rebellion ever happens, i hope its bloodless”
while that’s sweet of you phoenix, you can count on it now, sincE YOU’VE REVEALED THE SOURCE OF THEIR WEAPONRY TO THE ENEMY
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“What’s this? A bloodstain?”
Hope it is not Chris’ bloodstain...
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CURSED NOISE
CURSED NOISE
TURN IT OFF!!!
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this is where capcom hides characters they don’t like
Klavier is somehwere in this room....... festering
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well we’ve come to the end of another investigation
tbh I'm starting to get into the storyline, though it still doesn’t feel like an Ace Attorney game
it’s more like... it’s like someone took their Ace Attorney AU and made an entire game about it. It’s got some cool points to it, but all in all, it just doesn’t... fit, I guess?
Oh well. onto trial #2 and saving Maya’s butt once again
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