#jongin dance analysis

[nyasialiveshere]

I'm patiently waiting for the day sean lew does his big one and finally choreographs for sm and saves the company from mediocrity cause southern hip hop does not go like how they've been doing it or teaching it.

Back in the day they used to have a good medium of american choreographers to assist the trainee's and idols and clean up their faults now it's like they don't' have that and it's soo evident.

I don't care the minute they got rid of that bald british or american dude they companies dancing went down hill. It became a weird oligarchy. Like I noticed kai's main teacher started recommending people he trained and they eventually ended up replacing most of the western choreographers. They brought in bailey sok

for peaches, the asian american southern swag hip hop extraordinaire that she is and it was way better than Mmmh.

It actually had so many different elements in it, but most don't really focus on the dancing. But for rover they settled on bada lee

who is mainly a krump battle dancer, it lacked authenticity. Not to get all so you think you can dance, but Jongin cannot do that and at sm they make no effort to really teach everyone learns on their own and they aren't really pushed to be at a certain standard.

Kasper and all those other choreographers and that studio they get most of the dancers from have a very specific skill sets.

They've been with sm for quite some time and I get that, loyalty but like the art world don't work like that they're gonna get left behind.

they got clout about 2013 from america's best dance crew made it to the quarter finals cool. We back to Korea with prestige

Did the olympics alongside exo.

I get sm always wants people with lots of prestige and clout but they tend to keep the same people for so long the creative image of sm gets stifled and left behind, now sm is desperately trying all the trends and fads to get their artists relevant to the youth again. Like it's a little late they should have been letting young creative directors in.

I don't care I'm always gonna advocate for new and upcoming artist with lots of passion. They make the world turn, they start the trends, they bring the most energy with their ideas.

Ignoring the performative style an artist specializes in and getting choreographers that make lite hood tik tok mashup dances is ruining the game. But if one must do it I think letting the western choreographers they bring in for ideas have some real creative freedom. It typically never fails I feel like they bring in these choreographers for a blueprint then let a korean choreographer twist it up a little bit so they never have to really give somebody credit. They never say western names hardly if ever only thank you team who contributed to the success but the korean choreographers get to show their face, do interviews, and idols basically have them as a part of the crew.

Like they are NOT slick. At all. I know the western choreographers get inspo from southern hip hop but at least they are transparent. They'll say this is inspired by this dance, two step, crank that, etc but it never is even a topic of discussion. Only full credit going to the k choreographers and yeah yeah some other people helped...like people forget why exo's choreo was so on point when they started

I really don't wanna make it seem like it's just black creators they try to shelve and ignore it's basically anyone non korean.

Tony Testa I remember him from back in the day but when I wanted to search him up to my surprise nobody really talked about him and the only choreographer people talk about training Kai is mainly Mihawk and Kasper...which is somewhat true.

Cause they're choreo is...like it's okay.. but Kai himself went into how Mihawk trained Exo and it was basically sm style, yelling, you're terrible, quit now, emotional abuse... wow you're famous I love you let's take pictures.. I don't care they gaslight them kids idc idc idc. Now that's trauma bonding.

But then there's the actual full truth that they and many other sm performers who have been praised for their dances around that time, were in fact trained by a real deal professional at one point, one of their staple choreographers was Tony Testa and he choreographed for Britney Spears(circus) and Michael Jackson(Testa was hired by director Kenny Ortega as an associate choreographer for Michael Jackson's final tour This Is It which obviously never got to happen but still)

This was dance on sunset? I think?

and suddenly the quality makes all the sense in the world

But again try and find it without knowing about it before hand you'd be like yeah no they never really had any western choreographers. There's no history books in Kpop if you were there you remember but if you weren't woops doesn't exist.

except it does.

Anyway too many people have this weird odd narrative Mihawk did it all and thank God for him like....how? He's just one of the only one's still there. Everybody else left cause Korea is trash to artists and creatives.

Like Kai cannot do that hood stuff, he wasn't trained for that at all. Now if sm invested more in there artists fine blame him but everybody knows these kids would dance in that basement for hours by themselves cause be honest they probably paid the teachers for a certain amount of time and then it's all on the kids. They absorb as much as they can but then it's up to them. He couldn't just learn such an advanced style like krumping from watching, you either grow up in the culture or you learn from someone who grew up in the culture. This is why you can't expect these Korean teachers to teach krumping. They know it but only cause they most likely learned from someone close to the source, it's not just something that can spread so easily.

sm has always like historically done this like it's just something they do they will never stop taking these itsy bitsy pieces of black culture and recycling it they can't help it. They've worked with tons of black artist to make the actual music and tend to get some western or black influenced people to try and create some type of instant quick success. But it's so subtle one could say it's not related at all.

I would say its a coincidence but knowing who trained shotaro like uhm no it's not,

Sm knows exactly what company trained Shotaro and they are known to specialize in krumping and hip hop. The little time he spent at sm most likely taught him barely anything he was already trained when they got him. They fib so much and never let their artists go into detail. He trained for years with a company that trains people in the top boy groups in japan.

EXPG is a studio connected with the iconic Japanese boy group exile tribe where most of their members train.

I just get tired of people saying 'studio from japan or studio in america' like if it was Korean people would give the entire name...like what's wrong with giving people credit who deserve it.

They typically sometimes get sent to new york for 2 years I think? But that was in the old days it may be different now. This is because the japanese always understood if you want your artist to do black music they should not just sing black music but be under the cultural american influence in some sort of way.

I don't know what they aren't getting, Kai isn't perfect at every style. They just don't plan on ever investing any more money into him or really any of their artists.

He was more in his comfort zone at the beginning of exo with a heavy emphasis on jazz and contemporary style dance.

If there isn't jazz or contemporary at least in the basis of the dance that's where Kai starts to falter. Broadway theater style is what he's most comfortable in. But because of appearance they push urban dance on him.

They didn't even try with bomba

Rover was a soul crushing mix between crank that soulja boi and the macarena.

I was watching the video like nooo that's every viral black/ethnic dance in one and I already knew that tagged choreographer was korean. I wanna analyze rover later but I might get upset it's pretty like a big major 106 in park style mv/music video and dance but like that fact just got

Everything he specializes in sm is like nah they also make anyone with sm have this weird loyalty to where the artist never get to express and cultivate themselves as a human. They are stuck in some sort of child/star hybrid.

I don't know why in the world they didn't send exo or at least super m to millenium they literally rented out the studio where so many talented dancers choreograph and just flew out they korean choreographer so ignorant. They were so stubborn with that group.

I feel like if they were trained by young vibrant artist close to their age they could of gotten so much inspiration. Freedom is really a virus and why would a kpop company want them to have freedom

Like hire the boy he just traveling around asia in his spare time making some of the best choreography of his career and they're like lalalala let's hire other people he's worked and trained with but not him. If anyone could actually help fill in the gaps with some of sm's main dancers I think he could.

Anyway I just feel definitely by 2025 either super m is gonna be somewhat active or sm will be out of business but I still think sean and kai should at least meet up once at a dance conference they become friends and post jazzy contemporary dances online with the occasional obligatory bff's cooking in the kitchen youtube channel, like so many of the peebles do now and days. They both do the same artsy triple threat yet auditioning to be a stay at home husband type of thing, cooking, yoga, self care. Like it can be good for the brand I swear. I just have a thing for artsy people with the same vibes clicking up. It's not so far fetched cause he already worked with Jackson. I just want the two balls of sunshine to meet

[sugar-petals]

Hey Caro ☺️ I just took your super m quiz - thanks for making such a fun quiz, I feel like it helped me get into super m! I know nothing about them yet but I thought it fit soo well that I got Kai bc I’m a full time dancer - now you have me super curious about him 👀👀

KAI :: INTRODUCTION MASTERPOST (dance focus)

so you wanna know about the god of k-pop choreo? oh yeah, i’ll talk to you about fucking kai! if you dance, this guy is the #1 must-know. once you see him move, there’s no going back. i don’t exaggerate: kai is the gold standard. brace yourselves, i’ll show you why.

kim kai aka kim jongin (27) is a solo artist and super m’s plus exo’s main dancer — est 2019 and 2012 respectively — heading either group with a passionate, hyper-physical style that roots in his early practice of of jazz dance and ballet. the influence definitely shows. 

learning choreography, he’s become the gorgeous fusion of emotional grace and explosive power that unites both tension and extreme accuracy. while at the same time: never sacrificing his interpretation. and HOW MUCH HE BLEEDS FOR HIS CRAFT. he enjoys it so much. 

and he’s communicating it 100%, jongin’s dance is so interactive and raw, luring. i swear to god, put the seatbelts on for this one. it’s never just him, it’s you as well. you’ve never seen this before. he’s like “yes, i meant you, i’m looking at you”:

he’s even gonna modify the choreography to point right at you to underline that very thought. he’s so good, he can learn it, ace it, epitomize it, and do his own thing anyway. even the person in the last row will get whatever point kai wants to make. this is dance that belongs on the biggest stages.

even when he films without a crowd, it’s like you’re literally standing opposite to him. he focuses on two people: his moves, and the viewer. he has it look like you made him smile and self-aware, or you made him determined. INCREDIBLE. he shows his charisma, BUT he also shows your own (!) impact on him. it’s a duet. he wants you to join him on the dancefloor. this is from exo’s call me baby mv where kai does his famous come-hither:

he flirts and he encourages. he values the audience and wants them to be confident as well. i think it’s the reason why he’s so outstanding and addictive, kai thinks beyond himself. it’s a tango he involves you in with his eyes and how he opens his body, interprets a lyric.

it’s not about imposing himself going one way. instead: he plays the back and forth ALL. THE. TIME. in any context. whether it be frivolous, or fun, or gloomy, or sweet. even with a simple little smiley wink it’s happening. and he acts like you had a reaction to it. there’s literally just a camera.

this guy’s physique, strength, elegance, feeling for the beat, character portrayal (!), and control is unbelievable. he’s destroyed it in every fancam out there. he can’t switch it off even if he tried. your eyes would go toward him in the largest group formation still. put him in the center, that’s his spot, he showcases it.

because he doesn’t just show learned moves, he makes it radiate something dynamic and animalistic (he embodies superm’s ‘tiger inside’ all the way). 

jongin’s dance says: i love this, you love this, let’s do this, the feeling is right. he makes bodies and unrestrained touch the opposite of wrong, he pronounces it a source of having fun and being instinctual. and he never breaks the tie with you throughout, and uses his shoulders and lips to put the oomph into it. 

he uses innuendo and a ‘we both know’ sentiment perfectly as an invitation rather than just going through his routine. that’s how he can make each move fascinating. you can tell kai knows exactly how to make everyone scream their lungs out. i bet somebody held their breath just reading this post already.

exo’s most famous choreo is ‘monster’ (kai focus linked) with good reason: jongin can turn himself into nothing short of a roaring beast. it’s one sharp, complex move after the other. kai can bend any gravitational law he wants to show any feeling and pose he wants. a glimpse:

now, how to spot him in general if you’re new to him? here are some pointers. kai’s execution is clean, fast, and powerful. those are two decades (!) of experience showing. kai is an all or nothing dancer, he plays no games. he treats every group and solo stage like his best and last. his work ethic is beyond words. yeah, he’s a capricorn. his style is direct as can be, working every axis.

as you can see, jongin is hard to overlook anyway: he’s a 182cm giant made of steel. he strives to acutely visualize impact in his style and it is always successful. in fact, it’s his signature. it’s like he creates invisible objects and pushes through them. boom, he just burst another bubble.

when the song gets to his part, i guarantee you won’t miss him and all the boldness and expression he brings to enrich the performance. hell... he carries it. jongin can handle the center, i’m telling you. (look how fast he rotates here)

talking features — this is what to look for when he dances in a group setting: you can recognize kai’s face by how wide, bluntly structured and sensual it is. jongin is a sight. he has such an aura, serious, sultry, and smiling alike.

with a very recognizable silhouette (like... holy hell!):

he’s very cute as well ♡ the fandom and kai himself have an adorable analogy going on. jongin calls himself a teddy/nini bear and we joined in on it. (i made a thread about it here, it talks more about his offstage life) — hence kai’s fans are called eri-gom, eris as in exo’s fanbase and gom meaning bear. 

and i mean. look at him. what an attractive guy. he’s that handsome. strong brows, teddy eyes, square jaw, swept hair, glorious lips, tan skin. 

now yes, something important concerning his appearance and a serious topic: i don’t want to list you the endless instances of colorism that kai has to endure but it has to be mentioned. jongin has been called every name in the book and people agonize him over his skin incessantly. it goes on and on and on. every day a new terrible comment about him emerges because some pitiful person thought it was funny and would elevate them. 

he’s had to deflect, ignore, reframe, defend, remotivate, assert, harden, prove, denounce, and push himself, protect his confidence, decline skin bleaching constantly, laugh along, dance and practice thrice as hard to get the respect, and still see his dignity torn to pieces all day. i’ll just give it to you straight, that’s all fucked up. kai’s skin is perfect, he’s amazing and wonderful. 

in his own words:

— exactly right. say it even louder.

having him at the bottom of every joke is weird and messed up. this man is an utter beauty and nothing has to be fixed. it is up to him to define himself rather than get called ugly for his skin’s appearance by default, and get whitewashed at every opportunity. it’s been going on for 27 years, he scrunitizes himself all the time and doesn’t look at himself fondly because he hears these beatdowns daily.

it’s heartbreaking that this happens literally with no end in sight (’kai is just a stripper!’... ‘he has bad vibes’... ‘darkest guy jongin!’). for his skin, and how he decides to show it, too. jesus christ his skin looks fantastic, end of debate. they just can’t handle him, kai couldn’t be any more immaculate.

♡

jongin has vigorously protected fans from discrimination, bullies, and shaming himself whenever it came up. in a very straightforward and deadpan manner because he knows exactly how it damages you. (”J” in the subtitles = jongin, he’s wearing the plain white top at the very back)

we need to protect and praise him that way right back. it’s important.

so, needless to say. all in for jongin getting the center stage he deserves. because he has the wow factor in every regard. kai usually opens an MV because there’s no better way to get people’s attention with that level of presence. with kai, you can’t go wrong. if you get the center in a an all star group like superm, you are the king.

being part of that presence, kai’s stage alter ego has reached levels of infamity you can’t even imagine. it’s great to see him being sovereign without apology.

and it doesn’t stop there. he shows time and again that acting, props, and commanding the audience has to be mastered to be an exceptional dancer. kai owns his sex appeal. sometimes, he even dances a portion of choreo with his eyes closed because he’s feeling it so much.

he is a pro in using his surroundings as well, superm’s stages are a glorious opportunity for kai to show how he comfortably ‘lives in’ the 3D space around him.

which makes the viewer do the same: watching kai makes you feel amazing, energized, but also serene and enjoying the moment. 

there’s always balance. it’s the magic of it. e.g. he comes along with so much impetus and decisiveness but eventually, he halts to offer himself. here i am — take me. i’m yours. closed arms, open arms. walking, kneeling. looking down, looking up.

kai goes every extra mile there ever was and makes each eye contact count. involving the audience, one grin at a time. it works. it’s about establishing contact. he connects to the onlooker with so much nuance. 

kai’s smirk is notorious and you can see why it’s so raw and real: he makes it linger. it’s such a duality since his dancing says i’ll come over, while his message is come and get me, i know what’s on your mind.

with a hilarious twist – kai expertly uses humor. you don’t get that in many dancer repertoires. i love it. all those quick expression changes. his smile! 😊 what a man.

so — what makes him so good and known: yes, his style doesn’t deny that dancing and eroticism are one in his business. that takes courage. kai has it. iconic performances have been his reward. point dance/killing part: exo’s love shot choreo. 

that suit has swept the nation. what’s more: kai shows you it’s more than just good hip movement that a good dancer needs. he does everything at once, he puts the pleasure on his face, all his limbs are following the template he chooses.

the thing is. kai couldn’t be any shyer, but when the music starts he becomes a oscar-winning madman. he emotes constantly (!) and stays in character. this is gold.

jongin always plays it up. he knows how to use that face and does a lot of power posing. this is how visceral looks like. he’s interpreted exo’s aggressive concepts to a T.

and he has so. much. fun. it propels him. on every beat.

past every hurt, heartbreak and injury, man. if you know about his genre you knew this was coming, kai does all of that with 4 herniated discs. since debut days, never recovered. every gif in this thread, he dances with a battered spine. wheelchairs, stage collapses, relapse-recovery-schedule tales, the dilemma of injuries being inevitable, limping, kai falling into depression during breaks, constant pain killers, countless tears on stage, we’ve seen it all, the extreme end of it. 

kai works out like hell to literally keep his body from falling apart. but it doesn’t help the nerves in his back that are impacted. doing choreo you can sometimes literally see the pain kicking in and he pulls himself through with force for the last minute. once you know how strained his back is, you can see it.

at the end his expression goes fuck now it’s coming when the adrenaline fades. he takes every second-pause he gets to rest but still finishes each move. even when he holds back, he keeps it together and executes each turn. sometimes, he has to restrict himself and soften his movements to protect his health (especially in hard choreographies such as lucky one which is universally disliked by exo — still jongin makes the very best of it smiling bright and dancing so hard his sleeves come off).

he frequently states he ‘dances in any case unless his legs are affected by something’. all torso injuries are fair game, this guy is hardcore. and people claim he’s just pretending. chen (a fellow exo member) says not a single part of jongin’s body is intact. he has paid every price to get this far to follow his love. he’ll step on stage with crutches. he works SO HARD.

that being said: exo being called the official nation’s group, i say kai is the nation’s dancer. period. he has had his great moment at the korean olympics flawlessly dancing in a hanbok with traditional instruments and fulfilling his dream. 

i love the tension and drama he can bring. he can also thrill with slow, vulnerable movements alike.

kai’s is called a legend, he’s all that and even more. the facial expressions alone are feared by any kai stan because they hit home. 

this guy is a sex icon and goes off like a gun, messing around was never kai’s incentive. 

while at the same time being incredibly nuanced and so, so descriptive with his movements.

point dance: baby don’t cry. yep, kai has danced in water. must-watch.

this man loves what he is doing. he said he wouldn’t regret to die on stage because dancing is his destiny. boy, it shows. this guy has found his purpose. he can tell any story he wants. he’s a complete artist.

he’s perfectly portraying his incentive and he couldn’t look any more like a god on earth.

long story short, kai is dance and motivation goals. if you dance professionally, you can easily look toward him for the right words.

if you want to further your study and knowledge: he released a self-titled solo album recently. highly recommended. he worked forever on it, and he’s really dishing it on there. you get to hear his soft voice plus sizzling footwork. and he isn’t even getting started yet. you’ll hear from kai, i promise. he constantly achieves new levels of artistic perfection.

a last remark. jongin is amazing for a myriad of reasons that go beyond what i show you here given the post focuses on his work on stage. but the point stands, while other people have tried to break him, he broke through every barricade instead and stood up for himself. we can be extremely happy to have him and witnessing his unreal dance is an exceptional pleasure. here’s to jongin continuing his passion and confidence, healing, and getting the sweeping respect and acknowledgement that is his.

[pink-hao]

EXO friend analysis

(OT9 !!) 

warnings: none

masterlist

Minseok

playful friend

can complain about literally anything with you

the friend that is into pda 

will kiss you, grab

loves to play

aegyo !

fashion sense is like a 9.7/10

Junmyeon

the one you can talk to when it gets rough

motherly figure

cleans up after your mess

will pick you up from a party or something if you’re too drunk to drive

takes the kicking and screaming with a smile because he knows he’s doing the right thing

loves to shop w you !

will buy you food, clothes, whatver you want when you’re sad or need someone around

Yixing

the one that has the answer to every problem you have

this guy has been through it and he shares his knwoledge and wisdom

loves hugs

is so soft-spoken

but his words carry the weight of a bull

will cuddle you to sleep when all you want to do is cry

sings to you to take your mind off the bad

Baekhyun

the wingman

when yall go out together, its over for EVERYONE

sometimes he will challenge you (friendly, ofc)

something like whoever meets more people in one night gets a free lunch

your go to drinking buddy

will kiss you for no reason

always ready for action

Jongdae

the funny guy

tries to make you laugh

isn’t afraid to show his emotions

he’s scared of his future but excited for it 

happy he has a friend like you

everytime he says this you’re like “ditto babe”

likes to talk to you while doing your makeup, playing with your hair, the kinda intimate things

Chanyeol

tall, lanky, awkward friend

takes a while to get close to him, but when you do its great

very passionate guy

about EVERYTHING

loves to try to teach you about music

will drop everything to come scoop you if you need it

not the pda type but lowkey a sucker for big group hugs or sad hugs

Kyungsoo

the evil friend

ALWAYS has an ulterior motive

wants to get you a gift? now you owe him boba for a week. going in for a hug? BOOM smacked on the neck

jk hes not always a meanie

can actually be one of the most thoughtful people

can be a great listener if he wants to be

not the greatest at opening up but trying hard for you !

Jongin

that dancer friend

loves to make up a dance to a song and teach it to you

or learn a dance to a popular song

has the biggest dreams and the brightest eyes

leans on you when things go sideways

they do often

loves to hold hands

Sehun

the cool friend

a bit of a hypebeast

the one who flexes in silence

he can just stroll in wearing a pair of $2K sneakers, $1K jeans and a $450 white t-shirt like its nothing

loves to go all out for birthdays and christmas and such

likes to travel with you

go-to concert buddy

[rebesoo]

Recently in the history of Mikawback (choreographer of the SM / EXO) he uploaded a photo where Kai is wearing David Bowi's shirt.

Why is this interesting?

"David Bowie, a pioneer in music, film and fashion, also adopted androgyny in his lyricism.

His androgynous aesthetic and veiled bisexuality made David Bowie a timeless icon of barrier-free sexuality. How could it be otherwise another of his songs ‘John ​​I’m only dancing’ with his sexually controversial lyrics was another of the movement's musical standards. "

He is a bisexual icon of his time, known for his great talent, he maintained gender ambiguity throughout his career, he refused to be pigeonholed that made him an inspiration for successive LGBT generations, many of whom have only recently seen a majority acceptance in society to more open concepts of gender and sexuality. It was an inspiration to many at the time and until now.

Well, by saying this we will return to Jongin.

He was openly a fan of Bowie when he wore his shirts at times and even dressed like him at the Halloween party. We can say that he is a fan of his music or his performance but, being that way, we also have to take into account that Bowie's life, his success and massive influence in the training world is partly due to what he declared openly bisexual in an era where the gay liberation movement lived a boom, after the decriminalization of sexual relations between men in Britain in 1967. However, for many people who idealized Bowie, its relevance is not in its statements but in its aesthetics .

And to say that Jongin doesn't know about this and just follows him for his music is trying to ignore Jongin when he clearly isn't.

It's nice to see how Jongin loves David bowie who is thanks to his music a great icon of the LGBT community. That jongin is a man who indirectly supports this community.

He already showed it on occasion, by changing the letter of Confession not including a genre, by visiting an exhibition of paintings with homosexual themes and publishing an image in his personal IG account, not being afraid to wear women's clothing leaving in Of course, stereotypes do not dominate him, that he is free. And many things I could mention.

He is our president of the kaisoo, so we can also deduce that he is very comfortable with being shippered with his coworker, that also made it clear, noting kaisoo shipper not one if not several times, smiling proudly knowing that their shipper were showing love to the couple, by liking the post of a kaisooist in ig and by showing their love to kyungsoo openly.

Conclusion, Jongin is a system breaker and don't be surprised if he is the one who breaks all the stereotypes in Korea and becomes a gay icon of the Kpop. ♡

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I was very excited, I saw Dika_couple talking about this on tt and I liked the idea of ​​delving into this topic that is extremely interesting, I hope you liked this analysis. I extended a lot but I think it was necessary ♡

[soointense]

Kyungsoo could have really been one of the best singers along with jongin especially with his dancing they could had been like tvxq but they were thrown to the side it really makes me sad how it seemed like kyungsoo was a main singer but once chen was in exo k after exo m was not a thing they just forgot about kyungsoo the same goes for jongin they just forgot about them two i really hope they leave sm they both deserve better both are extremely popular and have brought in new fans

So true. If you watched exo mv reaction or vocal analysis, most of them will praised ks voice.

But sm is hopeless. They denied ks from having ost for his own drama and film.

after he discharge from army, i hope stupid and hopeless sm will promote him more. I love actor soo but i miss singer soo more.

2021 is ks world domination 😎

[cristallodineverosa]

Kaisoo handwriting couple analysis, aka The Match Made in Heaven Couple

Sorry for the cheesy title but I’ll explain later, I’m still a little mindblown. 

As requested, I’m doing a compatibility analysis just like I did for Chanbaek, always graphologycal-wise. I strongly recommend you to read my separate analysis posts (Kyungsoo, Jongin) before continuing with this post, because you might miss some important points if you don’t know the details about their individual analyses.

But let’s begin.

First of all, let me say that before doing this analysis I wasn’t a firm believer in this couple, not even a proper shipper. There is no particular reason because of this, I just thought they were cute and I never looked things too in-depth  because I guess I never really felt the need to. This is actually how things were before I started supporting Chanbaek... I just thought they were cute, then I started doing some researches and then BAM, hooked, because hints were everywhere and I just couldn’t say they weren’t real anymore. This is pretty much what is happening right now... I’m not a hardcore supporter yet, but at least graphologically-wise, Jongin and Kyungsoo are VERY compatible, even if on a totally different level than Chanyeol and Baekhyun. Let me argumentate a little more and I’ll explain why (brace yourself because this totally blew my mind).

As a preliminary note, I already emphasized in my posts that Jongin is far from being that sexy beast SM wants us to know, while Kyungsoo is very private and a little bit solitary. I defined Jongin as a very artistic man, with a strong push to express himself through arts (dance, draw), while Kyungsoo, even if driven by a big desire of communication, is very introverted and usually keeps his impulsivity at bay.

Let’s reinforce these statements by looking at their handwritten samples again:

Let’s compare them without focussing too much on the graphological fundamentals. At a first glance, Jongin’s writing looks sloppier, less controlled than Kyungsoo’s, and this might add to our theory: as I said in the title of his individual analysis, Jongin is “the artist”. He loves expressing himself, going with the flow, even if he shows some (slightly worrisome, at least in my own opinion - don’t bash me for this) signs of social awkwardness and a of a certain tendence to detach himself from others instead of seeking for company and so on. On the other hand, Kyungsoo is a lot more guarded, much more aware of all the eyes focusing on him, and his writing looks a little “masked” to me, as if he feels he needs to write using proper Hangul form and mantain a certain aestheticity. 

BUT.

What really blew me away is their name written in capital letters at the beginning of their little message. Doesn’t look that important? Other members wrote their name as well? I know, I know. But believe me, it’s meaningful: NO other member wrote his name in Latin letters and in such a big caliber like that (someone else, like Joonmyeon, used Latin letters but with other purposes). You might say, so? What’s your point?

Look.

See what I mean? They are the only ones that used the same pattern: name in capital Latin letters, short message (and not a papyr like Chanyeol’s or others lmao). This is very interesting, and made me wonder if they wrote it physically on some board while they actually were together? Because if it’s like that, then it’s something that you could take as a very important piece of evidence about their mental connection. Writing in the same style (using the same fonts, a similar spacing, a similar sized message) is what established couples do. It’s a bit like when you live together: you slowly pick up the other’s habits, the other little quirks and manners, and you find yourself doing the same or interiorizing that move, doing it without really thinking. This is a sign of a very deep mental connection... and this actually happens a lot, if you think about it, both among animals and among humans. These “imitation” is made possible by a combination of motor neurons effect and autonomic nervous system.

This trait actually helped me to understand this couple’s dynamics a lot better than before. If Chanyeol and Baekhyun complete each other, mainly filling in each other’s weaknesses, Kyungsoo and Jongin are actually the opposite: they actually share a lot of traits, and they have a lot of similarities. I said similarities though... not that they or their personalities are the same. There are some differences as well. 

We noticed that they both use a pretty big spacing between words, meaning shyness and some difficulties in managing social situations (even introvertion, especially in Jongin’s situation): they both show this trait. So they are both not exactly the proverbial social butterfly. Another thing: ambition. They are both ambitious and driven by a strong will to succeed (as we can gather from the ascending pattern of the lines). Also, look at the linkings: we have many occurrences in both samples, meaning that they do share a bit of impulsivity as well (even if Kyungsoo is more the “impulsive” type and Jongin the “sloppy/not careful/decides on a whim” type, in my opinion). Both writings show signs of high occurrences in lower level, meaning grounding to balance out the impulsivity: they are both very loyal and reliable people (and the perfect husbands, oh my God. Do you understand now what I meant when I said this analysis blew me away?).

So, until now we have: shared ambition/strive to success, shared shyness/introvertion, shared tendence towards impulsivity balanced out with a good level of grounding. Beautiful, isn’t it? Let’s not talk about the differences.

Spacing. Kyungsoo’s writing is aligned towards right, meaning a strong will to detach himself from everything that is his old self, while Jongin is more cautious. Let’s not forget that lost his father not too long before writing this message... I can see some signs of sufferance in his writing, and this just breaks my heart. 

Forniveau. Jongin is more sensitive, more delicate in matter of feelings, while Kyungsoo looks more stern, more down-to-Earth (but not disaffected or cold... his feelings look more disciplined, as if he learnt to keep his fears or enthusiasms at bay). I think Jongin is the most easily hurt between them, while Kyungsoo is the one who can help him reason when he feels wronged. 

Caliber. Kyungsoo writes in a bigger caliber, meaning he has some dominant traits in his personality (not saying that he’s the dominat one in the couple or that he’s manlier than Jongin, I actually hate this kind of things. It’s very heteronormative and totally not my style. I’m just saying that he can balance out well the frailer traits we saw in Jongin’s personality).

To conclude: at least graphologically-wise, Kaisoo look like a very strong and long-established couple with shares the same goals and look very in tune. They of course balance out some weaknesses of each other, but what strikes me in them is especially this “established couple”’s vibe they give off, and I think this is really interesting because I didn’t feel the same when I analysed Chanbaek’s handwriting. 

What are your thoughts about this? I’d love to hear them~

[gg-astrology]

If you have the time, could you do a quick overview for Xiumin (exo) for his ideal type/romance or just his chart in general? No rush of course. Thanks in advance, you're crazy talented at this. ❤❤❤

Hey there!! 💞💞💞 I can do his overview no probs!! 💞💞 This probably won’t be talking about his ideal type/romance but I hope you like it! 💞

[EXO Xiumin/Kim Minseok Overview]

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I wrote SO MUCH for this but then I lost it all because my computer decides to shut off so im sorry if this is :((( shorter than expected.

Aries Sun | Pisces Moon | Aries Mercury | Aquarius Venus and Mars

God ok so I hope I make it in time for his birthday still and I’ll give a quick… overview of the main points I’ve talked about before it shuts off

The first thing to talk about are those Aquarius Venus/Mars he has because damn that’s an incredible thing to have?? I’m going to talk about the placement first before we dive into the aspects

A lot of incredible dancers in the idol industry tends to have aspects to Aquarius– particularly Aquarius Mars/Sun (Chungha, Hoseok, Seulgi oh and Jongin also has?? Aquarius stuff as well??) 

With Minseok, this Aquarius is probably an understated but really really powerful side to him thats– amazing to see honestly!!

Part of why Aquarius placements are incredible is because they have a lot of persevering power. Not just as a fixed/air sign, but also because of his Aries (Sun/Mars sextile) and how it’s working together in his manifestation

Bodily, physically. There’s a lot of tangibility (physicality) to Aquarius even if most interpretation talks about the mind/energy that they embody. It’s the translation of those energy (external/stimuli/noises/source) into something that’s grounded (fixed) onto the physical body– movement, dancing, interpretation of immaterial things into the physicality of the situation/reality is something that Aquarians have an incredible ability to do intuitively as well. 

See the thing about Aquarius is that they embody both the ‘learning/conditioning’ aspect of a craft (certain aspects of the topic, like say ‘teaching’ themselves to do something, incredible perseverance/discipline in this regards) as well as the intuitive/analysis quality of it that comes from the ‘self/self-expression’ 

It’s a combination of Saturnian energy and Uranian energy. That Uranian energy in particular– taking something that’s been learnt and progressing/leading into something that’s ‘moving forward’ with (’yes we know that but then what now/what next’). Having the space/freedom in order to do so. 

These people embody a lot of discipline/control that comes from their own mindset/values (not what socially regarded) and without the ‘title/responsibility’ set on them ‘officially’ by other people (authority giving them titles of ‘leaders’ in something) – they can excel in so many different areas they set their mind to. And that has to do with the ‘freedom’ they are given and their ability to work well on their own terms/set themselves up for it.

You can see your local Aquarius excelling well at something that doesn’t burden them with titles– often times, Aquarius are said to be rebellious and free-spirited but it has more to do with the mind-set or restrictions (lack thereof) that is set upon them by others/themselves. 

Aquarius ARE discipline, but more like SELF-discipline in what THEY want to do. Aquarius works so well when they have a purpose, a space, an area where they can just push their energy into and do their work/show their skill-sets and adjust others as they see needed. 

The dominance/control over their own skills and being respected/admired on the subject helps the Aquarius placements a lot– there’s no pressure of anything ‘official’ but the work speaks for itself, and the respect/admiration/people coming to them for advice truly helps them take on the lead/flourish in what they do.

There’s integrity here, in the way that they demonstrate rather than speak. They are people who really do ‘fix’ alot of their energy into driving power/force of what their skills are/what they do. Aquarius energy (Saturn/Uranus) often let people notice a couple of things about them:

1) They are naturally disciplined, capable achievers and leaders, able to work on their own and with a team. They can handle shit and often times, their Saturnian energy really do enhance their critical eye and they are able to give constructive/creative advice without offending too many people (maybe not in regards to emotions/others insecurities) because it comes from a place of understanding/truly wanting to see manifestation in something and not undermining anyone’s ability as they do ‘the best that they can’ 

2)  They don’t notice that they stand out, even when they’re doing nothing. Its the way they carry themselves, with grace and capabilities. True power of these Aquarians comes from within and their ability to detect and ‘filter’ the bad/good intentions from people. 

Aquarius Venus in particular, can be good at helping others problems out more so than themselves sometimes. In a way, they ARE invested in helping out others but most might not notice this/take offense to it because they can be focused on analyzing/thinking about the problems (and can come off as quite blunt) instead of highlighting/knowing how to word things right (cushion it) to show how understanding/compassionate they truly are (misunderstanding). 

At the same time there’s a strong driving force in focusing on themselves. No messy, no non-sense. Often times they’re fun-loving people but within the square they’ve drawn up for themselves. Discipline remember? If they deem something as ‘tasteless’ then that’s that on that. 

Aquarius ‘fixed/air’ nature is more about the driving force– the movement of getting yourself into this motion/gear of constant movement (air) and the repeated pattern of it. Most Aquarius placements may have to find a way to ‘break’ out of the mold they made for themselves– they are quite self-aware as well so I’m sure most would always notice when they ‘lack’ something and tries to work on it consciously by themselves (through social interaction– often times when people complain that they ‘lack’ compassion or ‘hurt’ others intentionally) 

Most people who give constructive criticism to Aquarius would often mention begrudgingly that they ARE honest/truthful but at the same time, they may often disregard certain emotionality level to it (and thats the main problem for them). 

The Aquarius driving motion– is thinking over the latter part and finding ‘steps’ to overcome it, once they have step one in mind they start implementing it. They work on a trial and error, most of the time as they go (in order to remedy the problem/deal with things as they come). 

Aquarius Venus often has people thinking they’re: ‘freedom loving!!!’ and ‘friendly’ even when it’s?? the ‘result’ of what they’re prompted to do (reaction) not the ‘reasoning’ (like say there’s more to it beneath the layer than that and you can’t take things on a surface level if you want to understand them/have to actually ask/get to know them to not cause misunderstanding) 

What you see isn’t exactly how it is. They’re friendly because they believe in universality, it’s politeness in a way– decency and respect for others/that should be given back to them. If you cross that line, they have no obligation to be ‘friendly’ towards you – they’re not gonna lie there and take it. You have to learn how to understand how they work as well.

‘Freedom loving’ in another way is a case of privacy/personal space, it’s being grounded in oneself (like an earth sign) and a self-expression. It’s for them, not for you. Don’t get it twisted thinking you can’t ground them, ‘freedom-loving’ is a way they ground themselves. This isn’t your call to make, it’s theirs. So respect that too!  

Most people don’t think they’re polite because they’re blunt– but they are polite. They’re thoughtful, just need to develop consideration more sometimes. 

There’s a lot of dichotomy/things we can go through with them because y know– they symbolize two things. The water carrier/vase thing and the the water flowing out. Much like how the other air signs have duality in them, Aquarius has this too but may be more concerned/stressed about how other people ‘dont fully understand them’ but yeah. We’ll get to that soon (in other posts maybe) 

So that’s part of how he comes across to others, probably at the beginning. There’s a respectful distance with strangers/new people sometimes– observing, can sometimes be a little distance/detached but he has enough nervous energy and friendliness (personability) to not like– come across as someone who’s unreasonable/you can’t get along with sometimes 

(If you’re not much of an overly teasing/dramatic person because that can throw them off a bit bc ‘tf bitch?? we’re not that close yet you can’t do that’ – Saturnian Aquarius respectable energy)

His true core however– Sun/Moon (and Mercury) combination IS someone who’s quite playful. Often quirky, has a sense of humour that’s quite quirky even if he doesn’t SAY say things but rather SHOW it instead (emotionality and compassion flows out more than is said/translated through communication sometimes) 

The main beef here is with that Pisces Moon which really really shines a lot. Minseok essentially — is such a compassionate, sensitive, sentimental (sensual) person at his core. In terms of subconscious, the internal and his emotions, it translates to how he cares about others, his dream/goals and how he expresses himself so much. 

This is the driving force– the Aries acts as the outlets and the way he goes about getting things/doing things. Pisces is the prompter. It’s the part of him that feels, fears, deals and settles things internally. It’s the part of him that creates dimensionality and layers sometimes. Strong need for self-expression and connectivity with others. 

Those with Pisces Moon often tends to be someone who finds themselves using creative media/outlets in order to manifest themselves, because it’s a way they can push all that scattered nervous/anxious/worrier energy out into something that they enjoy and can connect to others as well. They may ‘depend’ on something (music, writing, art, creating something) and often when they’re alone– they may tend to day-dream or let their mind get some ‘rest’ and can come off as someone who has a lot of internal energy they can utilize into the external (if you’re friends with them) 

Amazingly receptive to other people’s emotionality as well, they’re one the fastest people to be fond of others and may often let others cling/hold on/take care of them (or be taken care of but that may happen less often) – most pisces moon people are incredible actors, because they are able to put themselves in other people’s shoes and can ‘feel’ emotions as if they’re going through the same thing (highly imaginative) 

The more they suffer/think of scenarios that makes them suffer the more they get emotional, there’s an element to them that’s self-suffering sometimes (not always)– as in, they may somethings be the kind of worrier that over-stress something/has a habit of doing that (over-think/analyze something) that they may self-doubt or push themselves into the ground (hesitance) 

Because they’re rather fearful of being ‘overly optimistic/hopeful’ and not have that handed to them in a plate (which is why achievements are kinda met with a confused, happy, scared kinda approach sometimes) – they’d rather think ‘realistically’ and self-sabotage themselves from their ‘dream/first choice’ if they let this element of worrying overwhelm them. 

On the other hand, he does have a lot of Aries placements that may be the ‘dependency’ crutch. As in, if his Pisces dreams gets too overwhelming/scary because it’s so hopeful– the Aries is bumped up to help provide support. 

Anything he doesn’t earn with his own two hands (bare hands) and hasn’t climbed/rightfully felt he achieved he doesn’t take. It has to feel like he ‘earned’ it somehow — a sense of principality, if he’s put in effort/worked hard for it then it comes with a price that’s he’s paid. The Aries aims for a perfectionist state (much like it’s sister Libra) but the process is more through proving themselves, rather than tactic/prepped-work/strategy sometimes. 

Pisces can also be— scared of criticism, or worry a lot about perspectives. Other people’s perspective, consideration for things. The overall sensitivity and sentimentality to certain things can often make them pace back and forth by themselves figuring out what to do and how to do things without acting much on it. 

Whilst Aries (polarizing force) can be the absence of that – going back to the basics (full circle) instinct, what they want, the main ‘core’ of the thing tightly wrapped and concentrated/focused on. The sheer belief in something that pushes native through the achieving their goals/dreams without ‘thinking too much’ about things uselessly (efficiency)

The thing about this is, you have one side of him that does think things through. Is sensitive, considerate. Vulnerable and learn a lot from others (want to share it with others) – but he doesn’t speak/say. He doesn’t pull attention to it because maybe who knows who’s going to judge him (criticism) and Aries is against vulnerabilities/exposure of that or rather– talking about it in a way that leaves them defenseless and cuts down on their credibility (it’s like opening the self up bare and the other person looking down on them/stomping on/not understanding them) 

Aries/Pisces combination is more SHOWING through his self-expression, how it’s received. Learning it’s OKAY to be vulnerable in a way– because he has plenty of strengths (Aries/Aquarius) that carrying personal things by himself can become burdensome on his psyche if he doesn’t ‘share’ it with others sometimes as well (Jupiterian influence) 

This Pisces Moon gets stronger, more developed as it expresses itself. There’s moments where he’s intuitive, soft and sensitive and can’t hold back his tears/compassion for others. And there’s time where he’d rather support, encourage, motivate or direct/guide others instead. 

There’s a duality to this nature here. Where on one hand— you get Aries who’s confident, self-assured, may be blunt/crass and decisive. And then there’s Pisces who’s hesitant, sensitive, compassionate/willing to listen but also needs time to itself as well (both do, Aries in order to manifest/do things for the ‘self’ and Pisces to cover emotionally from taking in so many stimuli from the environment)

If you don’t know him that well— there are moments where his Aries may discredit his Pisces side. Sometimes he’s someone who is blunt, straight-forward. Someone who is decisive, based on fair play and honesty– focused on principality. If you want something this is something that is earned/worked for it. Can be quite stubborn, may limit his vision because he can see things from his experience. And sometimes his Pisces takes over, someone who worries, over-stress, hesitant and indecisive. 

You have a duality here of someone who can be pretty vulnerable (or weak-minded) and someone who is also strong, resilience and sure of themselves (confident, strong-minded) you get a mixture of a person who have to balance the two together— because they make full circle right? 

How to not get stuck in either Aries or Pisces but rather balance them both – develop both essentially. 

It’s like on certain topics his Aries takes control– this is how it is, that’s how to get there. This is a sure-fire decision. Talking more about the things they need to tick off. And then on certain topics, there’s a deliberate consideration of emotionality on topics. The goal for Aries/Pisces ultimately is to work from one energy to the other – if you’re a Pisces thinking phrase right now, instead of discrediting your work it’s using that Aries energy to not suppress it (but encourage it/speed it up) it order for it to reach something the Aries can take the banton from and run with (manifest)

If you’re an Aries thinking phase, it’s adding that heavier element (expansive/wider) of Pisces to your thinking and not dismissing it. It’s working with what you have, because essentially – you don’t want to suppress/cut one side off but see it work/develop nicely to do a relay run with both doing it’s equal parts. 

Pisces Moon can also make for someone who needs time to retreat back into themselves– for their emotional state, like being at home/sleeping in order to ground themselves/recharge from their environment. Because they can expend so much of their energy on mundane/external task, being at home and being able to enjoy the simplicity/joys of life really brings them a lot of joy. 

Another thing to touch on is that Aries Sun/Mercury – combine with Aquarius in his placements, he can be someone who is essentially very strong. The trouble with the overly worrying Pisces is one of the main vulnerabilities that should be addressed, because it ultimately balances this ‘strength’ with sensitivity and emotional receptivity but also enhances a fear (Pisces) of being misunderstood (Aries/Aquarius) as well.  

Anyways… Aries Sun/Mercury and it’s strength. A lot of people think ‘oh Aries they HAVE to be loud and crass’ – that’s not necessarily true. Most prominent is their laid-back nature, they’re concentrated on themselves and their experience. An Aries is less judge-y on you than earth signs sometimes, because they don’t ‘measure’ things like others tend to do. 

An Aries respect their personal individuality/freedom, celebrates their own strength/individuality (when it’s healthy) and thus– they celebrate yours/give you the space to do that for yourself. You rarely meet an Aries who doesn’t take personal offense to someone calling them ‘dishonest’ because it’s an attack on their personal integrity (prompt -> reactor) 

None of the messy shit, Aries is more of a defensive sign than an offensive one (compared to Scorpio it’s counterpart)

‘A baby doesn’t cry out of nowhere, it’s prompted by something and that crying (complaining) is a reaction to it’ – Aries level of expression is more concentrated about reacting to the stimuli, rather than explaining the stimuli/reasoning behind it’s stressors.  

It’s more of an action-y type because it shows through demonstration, and in a way a stability in themselves that they are principled and trustworthy. They don’t take kindly to others who don’t have this sense of fair-play or don’t ‘walk the way they talk the talk’ for. Bluffers in particular, has to bring their A-game in (no non-sense in a way even though they ARE silly and playful people themselves) 

In a way it’s also self-discipline. In a way they trust/believe in certain things and ‘do’ something about it. Aries ARE persevering, this comes from Aries before it moves onto Taurus.

An Aries may not be patient but they are persevering, the kind where they butt their heads against the wall and if it doesn’t budge– ‘think smarter not harder’ and try something else (that motion of charging/working/finding something that ‘fits the lock’ and is ‘right’ – cardinal/fire – instinctual/decisive) before a taurus (post Aries who found the ‘right lock’ – continues to butt its head there until it gives – fixed/earth) 

Aries can be great at team-work because they DO care about others, they DO show compassion and are kind to others. Most people for some reason disregard this because they don’t understand/appreciate how the Aries work (compared to Libra/Venusian signs). But it’s in the way they observe from a distance– knows when you’re down/struggling and gives you the time/space to work shit out on your own by blocking challenges/possible threats that will hinder you even more by putting themselves in the way of it for you. 

They pull attention AWAY from you when you need the space/time to work through your shit, yes you can struggle but they need you to meet them halfway because they can’t solve your personal problem for you. YOU need to do it, but an Aries is there to protect, guard, shield and encourage/motivate/cheer you up if you need them by your side. 

An Aries cares in the way they initiate things for you, if you’re a rather shy person they start the interaction. If you don’t want attention they pull it away from you. They care when they sit down with you to check in, giving you their concentration/attention and honesty. 

An Aries cares– sometimes, in the way they physically put themselves in front of you if you don’t want to be seen (or doing things/urging you to do things that are good for you) the way they face things heads on for you and handle challenges in order for you to have more time figuring your shit out. 

They care in the way they physically reassure you– a hand around your shoulder, validation, a nod, whatever you need if they can give. They won’t over-do it but they will care and accept you if you give them a chance to do so. 

They’re close-minded when it comes to themselves, more ‘free-minded/open-minded’ when it comes to others. Trust in an Aries, if you need direction or some stability – they’re great people to be around because they exert more of themselves to make up for the lack of yours. 

These sister signs (Libra/Aries) is about balance– an Aries will know when you’re not exerting yourself/need them to do something in order to equalize the interaction and they will do it. They’re great supporters in the team, as well as leaders if you need them to be. 

But more so than that, they just want freedom to be themselves. You can’t place responsibilities on someone but give them restrictions that makes no sense (linearly) established structure or enough room to ‘bounce off the wall/make their own path’ helps a lot too. 

Non-messy, simplistic. In a way that if something works in the way it’s supposed to then it will. Back to the basics, the clear simple solutions is appreciated (no nonsense) don’t play mind games unless both sides are consented/knows the rules and agreed to play. 

They may enjoy stimuli and equal game-play than they realize– essentially what an Aries want is banter in a way that’s naturalized/organic and plays to the advantage of BOTH individual involved (or more if there’s more participants) – similarities to Libra but in a way that’s more observable/manifestive (fair play, fair minded, balanced in an intuitive way but you gotta bring your game/meet them half way because they can’t solve/bend themselves back for you bc thats not?? fair or healthy.)

Libra/Aries perfectionist streak when it comes to Aries is more about that perseverance strength– tenacity. Aries sets its eyes on something and then manifestation is something they do. Sometimes they can be obstinate, doesn’t listen to others because if they want it they will do it (and occasionally out of spite as well) 

Personal freedom comes with a balance of privacy/private space– and this is something that is amplified by Pisces Moon as well (need to ground) – for an Aries, grounding is being active/feeling productive in what they do. It’s stimulation (fire) that feels like it’s going somewhere– moving flame, and some of the fear/frustration comes with fearing the fire will burn out if it doesn’t get enough wind/action going on. Passion is represented in the flames.

Aries may find themselves frustrated if they don’t feel like they’ve manifested/fulfilled something out– often being hard on themselves for ‘starting and not finishing’ or seeing something fulfilled (stubborn, can sometimes try to remedy/finish a goal by persistently doing it anyways even if they don’t want to anymore because they believe in principle of it instead of reasoning/listening to their own emotionality sometimes)

Besides this– Aries/Aquarius makes for someone who enjoys thrills, often times mental/visual stimulation (VR is more of a Pisces thing but the physicality of movement is Aries/Aquarius too) say someone offers an alternative route— Aries loves innovative ideas and Aquarius likes pulling it apart/the concept of it. If something’s done cleverly, within reason, in order to prove something (improve on something) then they absolutely love it.

Another thing is that they are often people who can motivate others up, a lot of vitality to them especially in terms of encouragement/refreshing energy when they are with those who doesn’t get a lot of it/is depleted. 

Yes a part of him will need to be alone/by himself too but socially, he can be a very sensitive and equally reliable/dependable person because of his strength (uniqueness/skill-set – Aquarius/Aries) as well. 

Likes something that’s new, thats innovative. If he feels like someone is going in a direction that’s progressive/good for them then he can be someone who encourages/support them in their path.  

I think the whole spiel I did above was to highlight how ‘underdog’ traits can be apparent in Aquarius Venus/Mars placements?? Like no they don’t ask for recognition they show it/prove it, if they know what they’re talking about then they won’t hesitate to validate/prove it even more. Understated, but very efficient/dominance energy. 

Also a lot of Aquarius Mars placement have powerful movements, it’s to do with their control and the energy they put into ‘feeling’ and ‘planning’ (not prior but as they go) what the ‘narrative’ is going to be. 

Cohesiveness is more of the goal rather than like– a prep-planned/pre-planned idea. They like control, but it’s a control that’s more to do with themselves/what they do with their energy rather than controlling anyone else (unless they ask for advice from them)  

Sun/Mercury conjunction and his overall placement does point to a lot of an avid learner personality — learning comes from experience as well as discipline/studies. There can be sense of validation for doing something ‘right’ – for being ‘objectively’ successful in terms of studying or choices because essentially that covers up for Pisces insecurity sometimes. 

If you have this placement too – make sure to look that you aren’t seeking validation from others to make up for your confidence in yourself (which can lead to a lot of ‘me’ or attention-needing attitude) Even if you ARE confident in yourself to an extent, an Aries learns best when it’s perfectionist streak is broken and begins to rely more on itself, rather than subconscious dependency on material validation instead (skill-sets, valuability, social popularity, etc.) 

Positive aspects from Sun to Mercury, Mars (I didn’t look at the Sun-Moon conjunct because it’s 9′ at 12.00pm) but this is very promising because it can point to a rather optimistic person publicly. Often popular because they seem to have strength, gain strength and encourage others through their sunshine attitude even when others are tired out.

If Sun/Moon conjunct at a tighter degree, it could point to someone who may be quite disciplined. Old soul but also youthful, lively but also easily settled back into a listener’s role. Self-struggle is still a thing, but there’s a more positive motion for it as well. 

Sun/Jupiter-Uranus square can point to someone who may often over-expend themselves sometimes. Expansion, exaggeration. All with sincerity but they can sometimes bite off more than they can chew/do for others and thus feels the consequence/frustration with themselves later on sometimes (and don’t know why they feel that way). 

Considering how his Jupiter is in Cancer and Uranus is in Capricorn – it’s more about a sense of balance and stability in himself. Sometimes giving too much to others to a point where he comes home feeling unsatisfied or analyze situation at home/his next plan of action but then getting ‘swept off by the flow’ when he goes out again. 

Moon/Saturn is quite strong in his chart— pointing to the above point about being quite disciplined. His Saturn is in Capricorn, domiciled whilst his Moon is in Pisces – it can make for someone who’s quite in tune with his emotionality but can sometimes struggle to say it outwards and thus, focus more on long-term manifestation of it over time (building of bond, trust, loyalty and established connection) before he feels comfortable talking about it in the open. 

It also points to a strong persevering drive to see his visions (Pisces Moon) through into reality. Sticking with it through thick and thin, his emotionality or rather ‘devotions’ aren’t something to be laughed at all because it ‘sticks’ and thus– impressions stays with him forever.  

Mercury/Mars in sextile and Mercury/Uranus-Neptune in square — this points to someone who does genuinely enjoy a good banter. Even more– talking about issues/topics or in a way that makes things accessible for the normal/less elitist people so that it’s approachable. 

Aries/Aquarius draws down the energy of something that COULD be complicated but is put in a way that’s understandable for everyone (can be good at explaining too) – at the same time, he may have moments where things just gets out of hand/act passively and then he’s left to deal with the consequences of things not going the way he wants it to happen/opportunities passed (Neptune aspect) which can be frustrating for the Aries to have to face (often maybe an opportunity to make it into a reality – Capricorn Neptune)  

Venus and Mars square to Pluto (conjunct to each other) can point to a powerful personality, can sometimes exemplifies his Aquarian nature/trait (especially with the earlier Mercury/Uranus aspect) — again, Saturnian/Uranus nature as well. 

Powerful devotion and standing power (disciplined) but at the same time they can be nit-picky, critical, moody/brooding or feels a strong need to get affirmation/confirmation that they are on the same page as the other person. If there’s a lack of movement, they may often feel the effect of this Pluto even strongly– making them doubt, get suspicious or become critical of something/someone or even themselves sometimes. 

Powerful with that Venus/Mars conjunction – but at the same time, when it’s aspecting Pluto in Scorpio (domicile) the Aquarius nature may often overthink/obsess over the value/validity of certain things without getting enough reasoning/affirmation to verify/sustain it’s own over-working mind.

Alrighty I think that’s it, another thing about Aries is that they often have ‘powerful’ image or like– stand out for their eyes/eyebrows whilst Aquarius also makes them semi-aware of how they look/pose or making them look better when it’s in gif/motions than they realize. 

Anyways, this is xiumin overview! I hope u enjoy it! I added the aspects as well even though I don’t usually do that for overviews but– yeah I hope you like!

[soofection]

Most of us in my circle are bi or pan, its obviously not written on our faces, neither in our mannerisms. No one can guess unless stated explicitly by us. We are just your normal average looking and acting people except a few. Whats funny is that one gay friend I have his the epitome of everything masculine. Blacks and gray, taller than Jongin, buffer, he is very quiet and sarcastic. Basically he is intimidating. While one of out bi friends is THE diva and likes his makeup and fashion. [a]

So what I am saying is that people wrongly stereotype sexualities, which is different from gender identity and gender expression. How you choose to express your gender is up to you. Many straight men are into cross dressing and makeup but aint into men. It happens. Usually its an instinct that gives you a hint about sexuality. How a person is around males, how they act around woman. The general gist of their mannerisms around both genders. How they look and speak to both genders etc. [b]

I havent known of K/J for long, only got interested because I liked krystl. And apart from fans who he treats as almost family, the only girls I have seen Jongin truly being confident and charming around off stage are children. He knows how to treat babies and toddlers. Lots of affection and playfulness. Regardless of his stage presence as Kai, the kind of songs he likes, the sexual jokes he gets - in reality, practically he is comfortable and enthusiastic when affection is innocent. [c]

I read JI as more of a demisexual than anything. He needs strong emotional connection and attachment[which basically means he needs to know the person for a long time] for him to feel sexual attraction towards them, regardless of gender. He just won't be comfortable to have sexual intimacy till he can totally trust the person with his everything. His carelessness for things and clumsiness is so cute, he is not materialistic and hates to put on a fake image. Loyalty is important to him. [d]

Without loyalty and trust, he cant be himself. Being KAI, he has to do. Actor, dancer, performer - you have to do many things he won't do as JN. Sexuality and gender are way more complicated than liking just boys or makeup or liking girls and being manly. Jogin is harder to read because he lives simply and likes simple things - exo, members, family, dance, food, sleep, fans. He thinks deeply about things relevant in his life, rest he dgaf about.

I have in mind here and there that JN might be aromantic. He loves very intensely and innocently, and throw in his sexual attraction. But some of his comments and IVs made me think he might be aro. Ksoo meanwhile is more focused on his gender expression - being an actor he obviously ha to change that and appear 'manly' by societal norms. Otherwise, sexually, he seems very comfortable interacting to girls and men. Just in different ways. He could be bi, more leaning towards same gender. [f]

In personal life, JN might be more simple and confident while ksoo struggles with balancing sexuality and gender. He wants to be seen as manly because everyone expects it out of him due to his career. He didn't mind being so expressive and clingy in rookie days - he laughed and dorked a lot and was clingy. I think he is going back to that now a little seeing how he has proven himself. Socially,ksoo seems less awkward and more comfortable and confident than JN. He forms easy bonds with people [g]

Ksoo and JN have obviously found something very important in each other. There is something special, might not be totally traditionally romantic, but it is sensual? sexual and intense but it is pure because of how much they matter to each other. They give each other the outlet where they can just be who THEY think they are. The easy access JN has to Ksoo that others don't have. Jongin's unbotheredness, aloofness and disinterest towards things that disappears for everything ksoo related. [h]

I know I am ranting but I just had this in mind and seeing so much sexuality talk, I got it out. I remember when I was still getting to know them, when I heard JN's fave song at that time I wondered. Daniel Caesar's Get You. The lyrics fell on my head like tons of bricks. The grandeur of the confession of love to someone who has gone through war and hell by your side the loyalty and divinity associated to sex. It wasn't as romantic as it was worshipful and intense. It felt so like JN. [i]

an analysis from anon Thank you for taking the time. 

The highlight here for me is we have to understand sexuality and gender identity/expression is different and can be independent of the other

[dearinfj]

I came for the MBTI memes and stayed for the Jongin personality analysis. People always peg him as a INFJ and I need more explanations as to why. I mean I get it, I get the similar vibes from him but I’m still in search of more reasons. Not that this is something that is actually important in the grand scheme of things or my personal life, analyzing a stranger’s personality but I’m really stuck on it. I’m sorry for just randomly rambling into your inbox. I hope you have a nice day :)

Asgafsgjsla- wow, thanks c':

& please dont apologize for randomly popping in, I love random pops c: I wish I got messages on the regular.

I'm curious if you think he's something else? Cuz I've seen people also type him as INTJ. But personally for me, part of it is I see myself when I see him. He has this Ni intensity where he just stares at things blankly/disassociates a bit and he's constantly practicing his dancing and he'll literally just plug earbuds in and start dancing by himself or dancing to a random rhythm because that's his passion. He also can come off as disinterest and quiet and somewhat serious because he just isn't as into practical jokes as the other members. And personally, I feel like I've always been mature for my age and just more serious and more entertained by my own thoughts than childish jokes. Hes always entertaining himself, such as picking apart all the microphones. He even tells people when they need to bring things down cuz they're being embarrassing, like Suho lol

In regards to Fe, Chen has said before that he wouldnt date Kai if he was a girl because Kai is too sensitive. And he is. He seems sensitive and adaptable to others. When I went to an EXO concert, instead of getting upset at fans that were pushing to get closer, he said he understood them; but ofc that they should be safe. He also has spoken up to defend people and if I'm remembering correctly, he defended an overweight fan. He also happily began dancing with fans during that one event lol cant remember what it was for (I think maybe it was at a school) He's talked about not judging people on several occasions. Some of this stuff may seem generic but the members have described him as sensitive which adds to my belief that he's a feeler.

When it comes to Ti, I think it goes in hand with his Fe for calling out people who judge others unfairly. I can't think of a specifically Ti event and since it's an introverted function, it's much more personal.

But in terms of Se, I think this is what gives him the ability to change personas on stage. INxJ can have an underlying desire to be someone else; someone more outgoing, confident and/or popular. There's this hidden desire to have attention and/or to experience new things or travel or be impulsive or more flexible. And I think for Kai to be able to switch off his introverted side, he needs to tap into that persona. He needs to sort of dissociate into who he thinks about being in his head. I know that for me, if I were an idol, on stage in order to feel confident enough to give my all, I wouldn't be able to think like myself. I also personally feel more uncomfortable in small crowds than in large crowds because I feel like I will be able to see people's faces and hear more of their personal reactions when it's a small group; with a big group, I may never see them again. I notice that Kai tends to feel shy when asked to dance on a variety show or interview. I think he mentioned that it's not that hes not confident in his abilities, but he just feels shy. I think it's because all eyes are on him and maybe the audience is smaller and he can usually comfort himself with thinking people might be looking at other members - but that doesnt really apply in a small group setting when asked to dance or speak - and hes representing the group and it's harder for him to dissociate and "get into character."

Idk if this all makes sense. Plus I cant think of exact quotes right now and I'm not at home ;; but I was excited to respond. But honestly, part of it is also a vibe. I just FEEL this dominant Ni vibe which I dont feel often. It's almost like I can understand his headspace or like I'm looking in a mirror. I like being in my internal world and sometimes I dont laugh at the jokes everyone else laughs at and I might come off as super quiet and uninterested but I feel more comfortable in my head. And honestly, I like to think of myself as mature but I'm also childish in my own way. And ya boi Kai literally got super excited that he caught his water bottle in between his feet and desperately wanted to show everyone with that huge smile on his face and no one noticed and honestly me :(

P.S if you wanted me to elaborate any more or answer anything else, just tell me. I feel like this response sucked but if I don't answer now I'll just push it off forever ;; ❤ I'll see if I can find more specific videos and/or quotes and make a post for that later.

[kmjxngins]

dating | minseok

dating series minseok | jongdae | chanyeol | kyungsoo | jongin

♡ way to be cliche but you meet him at a cafe hA ♡ you’re a part time barista there bcs you have to pay the bills for uni ♡ not that your parents don’t support you ♡ they do, but you want to be more independent ♡ and also for the working experience ♡ so you work three to four times a week?? ♡ on a regular basis ♡ so you know most of the usual customers who frequent the cafe ♡ you know their orders and they’re pretty nice to you ♡ but one customer catches your eye ♡ while most of the cafe’s customers are working adults ♡ who always come in in suits and formal wear ♡ there’s always that one guy who comes in in casual clothes ♡ and sits at the far end of the cafe for almost the whole day ♡ he looks like a student just like you ♡ but you can’t be sure ♡ you just know he orders americano all the time ♡ and that he looks really good

♡ he comes in one day with another friend of his tagging along ♡ his friend is pretty handsome too but like ♡ americano guy is the best looking in your opinion ♡ it also just so happens ♡ that his friend is the one who pushes him to intro himself to you ♡ which he does and he’s q shy about it?? ♡ which is q cute tbh ♡ his name is minseok !! ♡ he gives you his number and asks you to call him

♡ you text him ♡ because you’re kinda nervous to call him tbh ♡ you learn that he’s a trainee in sm entertainment ♡ which means he dances ♡ :)) ♡ he learns a lot about you! and vice versa ♡ he’s actually pretty nice ♡ this is the first time you’re trusting a stranger so easily ♡ and talking to him so comfortably

♡ fast forward bcs you and minseok have become fast friends ♡ you learn each other’s ins and outs pretty quickly ♡ while he’s organised and takes pride in his cleanliness ♡ you’d like to think you’re an organised mess ♡ opposites attract ?? ♡ bcs you feel some kind of attraction to him

♡ and also his dad jokes ♡ you hadn’t expected him to be the kind to be into dad jokes ♡ but he IS ♡ which is even better bcs you love them so much ? ♡ y/n!! what do corals get stressed about ♡ current events !! ♡ and you make an exasperated face at your phone ♡ but inwardly you love it ♡ you love him ♡ a balanced diet is chocolate in both hands ♡ you retaliate which causes the both of you to engage ♡ in a very serious dad joke battle ♡ you don’t know who emerged winner ♡ but it’s something you won’t forget and will remember for a long time ♡ it’s a very very good memory to keep ♡ c”:

♡ when he realises he likes you back ♡ he’s not shy about telling you ♡ unlike the first time he introduced himself to you ♡ he’s become more confident ♡ and sure of himself which is a good thing !! ♡ and you say yes right away ♡ you know minseok as a person ♡ not the xiumin everyone else knows as exo’s oldest ♡ and you fell in love with minseok more than xiumin ♡ so ofc you’d say yes ♡ to him asking you to be his

♡ firstly i think he’d take care of you really well ♡ like being organised himself ♡ he’d keep you in check too ♡ especially when you’re feeling flustered from work or assignments ♡ he knows how to balance work and personal life ♡ so he’d tell you when to get a breather ♡ and how to convince you to take a short break ♡ he’s also known to be clean and tidy ♡ so i feel like he’d make sure your area is free from distractions ♡ so that you’re in the optimal environment to perform at your best ♡ that’s how he’d show his love to you ♡ doing small little things ♡ to tell you he cares for you more than you think

♡ also!! he might study with you ♡ because he’s doing his studies and promotions together ♡ so doing it together ♡ takes both your tiredness away and y’all feel a lot better ♡ and not as alone bcs you study together  ♡ and give each other moral support 

♡ while he’s the oldest in exo ♡ he’s filled with cute even if he doesn’t think so ♡ it’s inherent in him ♡ idk he’d just adorable in whatever he does ?? ♡ like if he’s cooking for you ♡ or watching tv while you study ♡ or if he’s cuddling you ♡ he’s crazy adorable without intending for himself to be ♡ altho he is manly at times but ♡ he’s just really fun to be around ♡ because he takes care of you so well ♡ and at the same time makes anything mundane you have to do ♡ into something fun and exciting ♡ like if you have to watch a dreary play for a thesis ♡ or for work ♡ he’d willingly sit next to you for two hours ♡ holding you in his arms and hugging you loosely ♡ while not taking your focus off your play because he knows how important it is ♡ he also takes note of crucial points  ♡ so that if you miss it, you have him to rely on for more areas of analysis ♡ which is really helpful!! esp when you’re tired and not feeling it

♡ he also shares his earphones with you ♡ when he’s listening to music ♡ he likes sharing his likes and dislikes with you ♡ and sharing the kind of music he likes with you ♡ so you can both appreciate it ♡ tbh you start to enjoy his taste in music a lot more ♡ it speaks about him as a person ♡ also, you just love it when he’s talking about something he loves ♡ you ♡ his eyes kind of light up and asdfgh ♡ it’s the best look on him !!

♡ this is a bit out of place but uM ♡ he likes hugging you a lot! ♡ while he’s pretty small ♡ he’s still taller than you and he’s the big spoon ♡ when you stay over at his ♡ or vice versa ♡ he hugs you tightly even in his sleep ♡ and the small squeezes he does makes you feel really good ♡ and makes you smile uncontrollably ♡ you feel really fortunate and privileged to call him yours

♡ he’s the best bf you could ever have ♡ he’s there literally every step of the way

[midnightpains]

rant

regarding what jongin said he and ksoo don't match thingy. i seriously dont think that some people will take it seriously like it show that jongin dont like to pair with ksoo. hck whut? when i read that trans i was like aww jongin u must shy to dance with your bb rite. there isn't ounce of negativity abt match/not match thing with kaisoo. if u ask my shipper heart i would say jongin said like tht bcos maybe his cannot focus dancin with ksoo, bcos who wouldn't when you need to dancin n touchin with sensual af song (the eve is an upgrade of artificial love famm) with the love of your life in front of everyone when in the same time u need to hide your love?? (though we still can see it in your eyes jongin 😏) haven't u see the fancam? they both trying to avoid each other eyes the whole time during that pairing part. they need to hide the sexual tension guys. and maybe bcos of that reason jongin said like that ( really big MAYBE bcos this rant is totally from my pov and added with my delulu-ness towards kaisoo ) and too add abt jngin on stage, he always deliver 100% ( if not more ). nothin will stop him, but remember kaisoo analysis where he accidentally hit ksoo on stage and he seem stunned for some sec. ( i cannot find that analysis help me i need to read it again ) that analysis also said that he happen accidentally hit other member but he still go on dance. now can u see the different? i dont know if there is relation btween the match/unmatch and the hit incident but what im trying to say is jongin really love ksoo and u can see the difference if u look closely. and it funny to see that some people say that kaisoo is dead over what jongin said at the radio. thats it. thank u for spending your time to read my rant. spread the love and have some faith in kaisoo will u?

[nyasialiveshere]

why imo jongin is a mom but not a 'mother'

months after watching he's expecting on netflix and becoming aware of the plethora of male's being pregnant movies that exist and discovering in it's genesis mpreg was meant to be a analysis on gender differences and what it would be like if women didn't have to worry about pregnancy and men did I'm wondering why 99.9 percent of mpreg don't have women in it, like at all. Like thats the main point gender analysis but many mpregs only have one gender.

Its a whole new year and going through the jongin ff tag im always like maybe something will surprise me but its all the segregation, straight fics have super serious masculine and yaoi has versatility but there's like no mention of women like not even a neighbour and the feminist in me is like

But I do like emotional vulnerable kji in fics cause it feels more real, but when the author slides in a comment about women making them seem like the plague I just can't ignore it like I used to when I was 12. Cause like why. Last year a yaoi fic i read I was like wow so well written but then the author made two derogatory comments about women for like no reason. I felt super weird about that cause like what was the reason

I was more intelligent next time I was determined find a writer who could write female characters into a fic that didn't have females as the main love interest. I believed in humanity.

Found one but everyone in the comment kept complaining that there were too many women and too much character development.

Then there's the issue of despite nearly every kpop ff taking place in america there's only korean characters and no discussion of like any wider array of topics like ever. Like stuff do be happening in america. I just feel like fanfics fell off when people stopped writing like they were writing real people on a real planet. It may be a side effect that kpop became so closed off and cult like over the years. Idols being kept in boxes only interacting with select groups of people. It made fans not want to even think of idols in real life situations. I truly believe if exo was on tmz in some mess some people actually might pass out. Sm kept them in a bubble. Most of kpop is in a bubble. It makes the fans more emotionally connected but also they seriously don't think they have autonomy. Like fans are okay with idol interactions but if somebody saw an idol dancing in a club with somebody w video evidence like the facade would be shattered. Nobody would say it but many would not like that person anymore. I think its expressed in the ff. Like in reality kai's very feminine, he is there's nothing wrong with that. He has been since childhood. But depending on who he is in a fan's perception. Whether he's the dominant part of a ship or in a het context or a cute tw!nk like there's always authenticity missing when people write him. Like whole parts of his character are missing.

Cause he is feminine but also tends to act more feminine when around women which is psychologically interesting to me. Anyway I guess what I'm getting at is like why has no one written a he's expecting au for him?

Not in a pushy way just in a pondering way.

Like lmao watch andante he was basically as omega as you can get

the girlfriend character took the reigns and the entire show completely flipped gender norms on its head. But I've seen many say they didn't like the show simply because he was with a girl and by proxy that meant it was cliche and played out not even bothering to watch the entire show. (Its not even that the girlfriend was masculine he just let her take the lead)

Which is an insult to kji because all his characters were unique and complex he never wanted to play just a generic lead which is why he turned down so many roles. I firmly believe he could of been in many shows and even films but he wanted to choose roles he felt built up the image and mythos of kai. He never wanted to do variety for that reason.

In miracle we met he played an angel but not only that but also a sort of romantic interest to an older non traditional female lead character. Sadly because of traditional views the relationship wasn't looked at as closely as it would have been if the actress was younger and closer to the beauty standards. If a show isn't pushing or hitting people over the head with something people simply ignore it.

If it's not aesthetic enough people simply overlook what is being shown to them.

Again a big part of this is the compartmentalized thinking of society. People tend to stay in the realm of what the media pushes and is deemed acceptable.

Lastly in spring has come many interesting topics where explored, including typical non traditional gender roles, age difference, money in relation to love, and sadly many either avoided the show because of it being het and not bl or disliked it because there wasn't a kissing scene.

Kji may not speak a lot about his personal life and preferences but I believe he chooses to show it instead by meticulously immersing himself in the projects he is apart of.

Its like its been such a long time since debuted I feel like fics concerning him could be like a wee bit more complex.

he used to be so talkative and expressive. I believe a part of him becoming introverted was because sm pushed him into being a blank canvas for the public. Despite publicly dating twice he consistently plays like he has no experience with anything and is always careful to talk in terms of metaphors concerning women. Exo l being his girlfriend publicly is like so

cause back in the day fans would have been like lmao how cringe now its like they are all aboard. The parasocialism is flourishing. But it means nobody wants him to act or date or do anything interesting that would give him you know inspo for the albums they love so much. Personally as a former directioner I feel like in terms of high art, dating models, a kardashian or a thespian works best.

Not even talking just girls even at gucci events he sticks by staff he doesn't go out and mingle w male models despite a quick chat or photos. Like when he went back to korea and wrote exo l a note basically saying how he was the only korean and didnt talk to anyone. He can speak english its just not his image to hang around foreigners. its really sad honestly and no I don't think its just cause he is introverted I believe its partially out of fear. Kfans would drop him if he hung out with a different racial group simply because its something they don't expect from him. Members of black pink can do it but their fans don't see them as a bubble chia pet. Boy band fans want subordination in all ways or else they drop members. A group of ppl on twitter said ksoo wanted western validation and implied he didn't want to be korean cause he talked about camila cabello and justin beiber and someone said baekhyun was shameful for liking chris brown

Which is literally insane they expect them to be in a bubble a prepubescent fanservice never talk about women or men who date women. Its ridiculous. I just miss when kji could have his own personality and image but over the years the fan view began to restrict his self expression. Its only shown in his albums but then he can't talk about it.

Tbh if he can get back into acting idc what ff authors write. Everytime exo needs to go viral he has to wear his back tf out arching it like that. Yoga can only help so much. Post military idk how much more he can take. I think he could do sci fi pretty well, I can see him in an alice and borderland type show. Or the weird types of jdramas. Honestly I always thought he'd go to america eventually sm just had to be smart about doing it. Idk if harry can get in a marvel movie I truly believe anything is possible. I saw that policeman movie poor baby can't act to save his life.

Lmao all this cause I was mad people only wrote him intersex in the context of yaoi. Like has nobody watched cw, freeform,? Good trouble. Maybe he's a single pre law student trying to make it in the big city, accidentally gets pregnant then gives the baby up to a wealthy couple only to change his mind and raise the kid on his own with his quirky roomates. Like not everything has to be a romance. Jongin is a strong independent blaq ish woman who does not need a man. He's proved this countless times. Everything he does thats effeminate on twitter is meow meow, kitten, malewife. Like where was the neocapitalist feminism we were all indoctrinated under, where's the great mother worship, where is the respect for the divine feminine. Its all become a joke I fear. I have no proper reasoning but I blame tyler perry. After Madea's family reunion all female led movies turned into domestic violence themed messes. But on that note like kji does kinda look like jlo in enough or gives off the same mama bear energy. I think an enough au could work...imma just stop here cause im tired and ill start on my multitude of late night brain theories of how sm could of had exo on shake it up and kai and rocky could of had a dance battle.....

[sugar-petals]

SuperM as Boyfriends Headcanon

↪ caro’s note. extra long version because i miss ‘em. best boys, they’re all bf material to the moon and back ♡

5k words | bullet points

○ warnings ⚠️ 18+, dom/sub play, shibari, female reader, grinding, poly mentions, threesomes, face-sitting, femdom & vanilla, smut and fluff

⌈ ten

— motto: they won’t underestimate me for long.

most of your social environment is gonna be confused by ten at the beginning 

and don’t really get what he’s all about

or think he’s like whatever, some random guy in a tank top

acting peculiar

finding him kind of hard to gauge

some of your family and relatives might even think he’s totally unusual and a sneaky fuckboy making you mad 

they seriously wonder what you see in him

down the line that perception has turned by 180 degrees

as it should

ten becomes more irreplaceable, relatable, beautiful, perfect and impressive the more you know him

he’s not as mysterious and impossibly badass as everyone assumes

his personality is very approachable to you 

and you find him interesting in every aspect, looks to hobbies to background to personal habits

and also opinions because ten is a guy who really thinks stuff through

so you gotta be roughly on the same wavelength 

he likes discussing controversial and complicated stuff a lot for sure

being far wiser than his age suggests 

you are the first to share those things with him until the rest of the world catches up to this gem of a person

spending so much time with you

in the most personal way he can

he takes you to see the floating markets in bangkok, you spend the summer in thailand

wakeboarding and playing badminton

his entire family knows you inside out at some point this shit is serious

it’s very important to him to go back to the roots every now and then

and that you have been around his home city as well

getting to enjoy the area and time together eating the most savory delicacies

renting a boat and paddling you around to the important spots, he can explain any question you have

this kissing is gonna be so romantic 

who needs a vacation in venice when you can go to thailand with none other than ten himself as your ferryman let that sink in

except eating durian there he is, the boyfriend who can do anything!

with seemingly no effort

ten does little kind services of love for you throughout the day

he pours you herbal tea, fixes some furniture (he’s surprisingly good at tinkering), comes home from the bakery with your favorite pastry, does the laundry with your favorite fabric softener

he also goes on a huge shopping spree with you monthly because fashion is key in this household and it’s tremendous fun

you giggle when he puts on oversized shirts deliberately to look funny

everyone in the clothing store will think oh man what an adorable pair

ten will model the living hell out of the entire stock

and buy you the cape you really really want as a birthday present

said item turns out to be your favorite couple accessory

because you can sit next to each other on a bench at the river and wear it

what’s not to love about a portable blanket

of course he will take to instagram and make it such a cool thing, photographies of you wearing really cool coats and jackets

mirror bathroom selfies together as well, with a back hug, the classic

and not just for insta

you snuggle a lot generally

ten is always available for affection

and accepts all PDA

he’s a kitty after all, he loves the warmth of your body more than you know

remember how taemin said ten’s hands are always cold, newsflash not anymore since you stuff them into the pocket of your hoodie whenever you can

and hello sir your paws will be nice and cozy on my waist

or hand in hand when you waltz through your apartment

time for dance is a must

oh my god ten is so good at all of this

although say he’s definitely faster into latin than standard genres

tango argentino, he loves flamenco as well

don’t believe me? ten is a diehard rosalía stan!

vamos

so, no-brainer, expect a lot of dancy stuff 

that escalates into wild, passionate fucking

which probably looks like an aggressive form of couple exercises

you poor sore souls

ten’s lil kitty butt is falling apart from all the “i can handle a bigger one!”-level pegging and you have aching legs all over

favorite position? full nelson

if you ask me ten’s ass is probably so carved out by the end of this you could fit lucas and kai in there from head to toe

this is not for the faint of heart

sex with this guy is extra cardio

and if you’re into that a threesome is gonna go down sooner or later

with our girl lisa

there. i said it

miss manoban in those knee-high boots, grinding her thighs between yours and you finishing off on ten’s face? the fucking hottest thing ever i need a moment wow

i don’t have to tell you how orgasmic this is gonna be

steamy sex life with ten very recommended

⌈ kai

— motto: you’re like a precious rose. i’ll protect you forever.

to be straightforward with you

he is in so heavily in demand it’s madness

to give you an idea of the scale

mark is basically occupied by yuta until the end of time 

but kai has an entire idol fanclub on top of all erigoms

those sharp moves did not go unnoticed

he gets an inkigayo sandwich every other day

jesus christ

if rent-a-sexy-bf.com was a thing kai would be the most requested

his phone would be blowing up with contracts like

and you also have to pass kyungsoo’s vibe check

and taemin’s

the road to being kai’s gf is indeed the way of the samurai

i mean honestly: kim jongin is without a doubt the hardest member to get a date with

this has got to be the most selective man of the entire industry or something

if he likes you he REALLY likes you

and he will be the one showing initiative

because he wants to make it clear he isn’t just spending time out of politeness or something

although it’s pretty logical that if kai was unable to reject someone he would no longer be an idol but a harem husband busy every hour of the day

seoul would be able to found its own village 

kai town

where like 70% of the population is pregnant

but since kai wants to keep on dancing obviously and he wants to lend his heart to only one person 

seoul has to settle with a singular nini family house instead of a kai district

where you and the man himself are a full-fledged household basically since kai’s nieces double as actual kids

if you wanna be a young ass ‘mom but not mom with kids’ and be married to kim kai this is it

does he have a thing for milfs or something

that thought just came to my mind

anyway you’re mommy anyway wink wink

fucking til’ dawn until even his muscles hurt

going raw at the gym together

him cooking the most random food with the infamous waffle maker

cuddling with an army of teddy bears surrounding you

walking the dogs with the sexiest dancer alive 

and the sexiness is only the tip of the iceberg 

we know he’s all-round amazing

kai is the king of figuring out ways to chill out with you anywhere anytime

and yes innocent chilling

...unless you’re in the mood for something else

up to you

anyway

sweet innocent chilling for now... with the stunner... just smooching at best things aren’t going raw or anything

on the couch in the kitchen in the car when it’s parked somewhere in nature

kai takes you very seriously and is a great listener

he’s literally so respectful and open-minded i can’t

he will keep your secrets and stand up for you if it’s ever needed

yes he is extremely caring and invested

kai does not tolerate others being shady towards you

if there’s an instance where you are hurt and unable to assert yourself don’t worry. he knows how to confront others with measure but a firm determination.

kai takes a lot of that responsibility but only to the degree where you are comfortable

i think you get what i mean by that

and he is diplomatic instead of plain patronizing

you have a right to be protected. it means he not only treats you well, but also makes sure your well-being isn’t disturbed in any other way outside of the relationships

outside influences aren’t to be underestimated

and since kai is a godly man you encounter a lot of jealousy from others

a matter he will take into his hands since he knows he’s the reason

standing up for you also means saying no 

to these jealous voices so this is an important boundary he has to draw

that all kinds of hellbent people want to get into his pants and take his stage image too literally is not up to you to fix

kai is there for you to enjoy and love not to defend

that’d be exhausting and beside the point 

kai prevents stress and negativity to come to you

i hope i explained this well he doesn’t do this to be bossed up or make you weak it’s because he wants to make life easier for you

guys being protective will be chalked up as chauvinistic these days. often rightfully so 

but what i mean is that kai support you in all regards so you won’t be at a disadvantage or feel terrible about something

⌈ taeyong

— motto: we’ll take good care. enjoy the pleasure.

he’s the type of boyfriend who will ask you about things he missed out on while he was busy

things um from the internet

while mark literally knows that one by heart already taeyong will ask you things like what the wellerman song is

and you thought it would be something nsfw

i got you fooled

did we forget that the man literally watched nct memes on youtube

taeyong is both even more 18+ than you think but also even more innocent than you think it’s complicated

this man is just hard to describe he’s so different, i mean every person is unique but he’s an original it’s the extra mile you know

anyway

sea shanties

bopping to it all day since he just heard it 

singing it while he prepares dinner based on a youtube recipe video as he often does

he’s the most adorable person ever ever ever

asking you why shanties are back in fashion 

(good question, requires a deeper sociocultural analysis i reckon)

planning to remix one for his soundcloud lmao i kid you not

maybe your favorite shanty 

featuring fast-pace rap and all

creating his own previously unknown phrases and shit like that you know him

palazzo rocco lemon detox flashbacks

he’s hilarious i swear

taeyong will produce his own shanties for you can you imagine

as he says: my happiness is your happiness

watch out he will drop a shanty music video with extra krumping moves

taeyong is a never-ending source of pure crack

prepare to laugh a lot like, a lot lot

how can a man who seemingly has such a serious outlook on life and such a bonkers kinda face be so lighthearted

it’s like he’s peter pan or something

especially since he has to manage like over 20 brats in nct his cutesy behavior towards you as his gf will stand out to you

yeah so to be clear we all know he’s the cute one in the relationship

and guess who wears the pants

that’s always you ma’am don’t deny it

or wait 

not for long actually because they come off um physically

but not metaphorically

because who doesn’t wanna sit on his face tbh

your favorite reserved spot

he loves it

taeyong has such a thing for your body it’s ridiculous

mister lee got a sexy mama

and you have such a thing for the gloriousness that is him

but neither of you will not admit it as openly as other people would think

all there is... is being flustered

baekhyun probably has to play some cupid now and then

and give you some ideas

like gifting taeyong plushies and things like that

baekhyun knows what taeyong is all about so the advice is very welcome

but most things you find out for yourself

by being a little braver with him you know

you walking around naked in the apartment or basically fresh out the shower with nothing but a towel

will shake up taeyong so immensely, he will back himself against a wall without you even pinning him there lmao!

jeez he’s so deep into kinky stuff but easily shook anyway

i quote him again: “born to be cute, i dunno!”

you can imagine the overwhelm when you rub yourself against him like it’s nobody’s business

it’s so much fun to give taeyong a regular horny meltdown not gonna lie

this man was grinding his whole body all over the superm stage and now he’s basically freezing up and drooling

how many denied and ruined orgasms he’s gonna get, so much overstimulation all the way  

you’ll lose count of it

and just how wet you’re gonna be

is a thing for the history books

taeyong isn’t such a big deal in nct for no reason god gave him every talent 

so great sex is obviously in his repertoire

i think you’re gonna break some records for most fucks per week

you know... guys like lucas taemin kai and baekhyun spend more time wooing and teasing and flirting

but taeyong gets down to business

one glance is enough

⌈ lucas

— motto: the hottest couple around.

ah, big boy

you really got this man’s attention

doing nothing much at all really

he probably just saw you walking around talking to friends

carrying an impossibly huge veggie burger munching and enjoying yourself after going on a jog

yeah boy that’s how you catch his eye

they say love begins in the stomach and that is the true meaning

or the nose, your food smells really good, lucas is going crazy, he’s seeing stars and shit

anyway

the towering burger isn’t the only thing he wants

lucas cannot get you out of his mind no matter how much he tries to distract himself 

with more good food, movies, games

fooling around with wayv or the superm maknaes, and working out

he’s admittedly... a little himbo head over himbo heels with you the feels got to him

he’s not gonna say it’s a date he’s just gonna invite you just because

to hang out in the kitchen while taeyong cooks and baekhyun comes up with the idea to play twister

imagine lucas with his long arms and legs bending himself all over the place

fighting with kai who almost crashed his shoulders into taemin who avoided the accident quickly

making you lose a round

obviously lucas will hustle until your team wins

mostly because he’s so tall and baekhyun is so small which is a huge advantage when stacking each other over the map

let’s just face it baekhyun only suggested this game to bite everyone’s butts and to see you have skinship with lucas

which is definitely a successful plan of the leader

yukhei is in paradise 

jumping around his room like an oversized bunny after you went home

don’t lie, you fell hard for him as well he’s just such a presence

emotionally, physically

a gentle but persistent giant

he’ll do anything to make your relationship happen once he knows you’re interested

if there’s someone meant to be a boyfriend it’s gotta be him come on

he will cave in after a while and admit he can’t just forget about you 

not gonna lie

your ex is gonna be shaking in his ratty boots

his poor eyes will literally jop from their unexpecting sockets

when he sees lucas hanging out with you

with his shining blonde hair and tall stature, that perfect shapely body, with great fashion on top of that

looking like your guardian angel

man, xuxi really does

pulling you out of your slump that’s been going on for months

and bringing back smiles and a good time he knows how to do that best

and big big hugs of course

you can imagine how soothing and grounded it feels with such huge arms around you

he will make sure that feeling is always there when you need it

because you deserve that treatment

which means he will come over very very often

yeah get ready for how yukhei is a lot more driven than you think just dial and he will be there

underneath the meme surface is someone very determined who really really wants you

yukhei is chaotic good incarnate but in that area he isn’t messing around

his brain is like: “gotta be with her”

on repeat

he must call you, he literally can’t sleep without tying loose ends together as quickly as possible

no second wasted with this guy, even far down the relationship timeline

i really pity your ex 

i mean someone dating any superm member would drive their former partner completely nuts 

but lucas is a special case

he has that kind of look and aura that makes other guys dig themselves into the ground like wiggling worms or cope by fanboying over him

i don’t wanna make this sound like a competition and yet — congrats on your noodly blondie boyfriend alright

⌈ mark

— motto: two nerds in love.

how to explain this. mark is a perfect balance of a lover, a talker, and a shy bean

with a tendency toward bean

and flicking the bean

you know

cutting right to the chase are we

mark is very invested in pleasing you as good as he can

and defeating his awkwardness

because if we know one thing it’s that he always strives to become better and better like he can’t help it

and isn’t afraid of almost biting off more than he can chew

how many subunits is he part of at this point is it gonna be nct hollywood as well god dangit

back to the point mark doesn’t treat relationships and sex as something static which is a good and rare thing

he does his best and always looks for room to improve

while being very nervous, very bilingual, it takes two languages or more to express what he thinks about you let that sink in

that’s very shaky first date sex while being extremely in love with each other

lucky you

and an afterglow where he plays the guitar for you

that’s so nice 

he can play it while laying down and shit

while singing

not rapping, actual full-fledged serenading

we’ve heard how that sounds in the relay cam

are you dating some kind of teenage heartthrob or something huh

mark will make it very clear he’ll stick around, this bad bitch is here to stay

or actually, he’s a good bitch, don’t misunderstand

mark doesn’t have a lot of edgy in him unless rap is concerned

he’s the kinda guy to get lost in IKEA with 

having a good time 

as often as his schedule permits

you really have to make use of your time together 

this man might as well the busiest idol out there

and you are no different because birds of a feather

you’re both mr. and ms. independent 

out and about very often

so meeting up becomes something special during comeback season

or wait mark always has a comeback going on

which is a double-edged sword but something you both know you signed up for 

which is why you spend a lot of time around NCT dream, 127, and SuperM 

sm’s publicity agents have to work extra hard i’m telling you

a dating rumor is the last thing both of you would need

since you befriend several members you gotta stay on the low as well

but hey the rage of jealous people of the public is nothing compared to the force of nature that is yuta nakamoto

who seriously thinks himself threatened and robbed

in case you are feeling possessive as well...

...you might have to fistfight yuta

to be able to be with mark

who is basically property of osaka at this point

yuta is a scorpio that’s just the way it is

unlike taeyong who wishes his rap buddy the best, yuta kinda wants to be mark’s wingman and see him date, live his best life

but also have mark for himself to fawn over and to adore, to be fascinated by

we get it yuta. bisexual struggles. very understandable

you have to promise in person that mark doesn’t forget about the holy gaming nights with yuta 

which is hilarious since that’s not up to you but mark’s memory

bestie, yuta uses everyone as a scapegoat don’t sweat it too much

regardless you put a weekly reminder on the fridge

so the roaring lion yuta would be pacified

he doesn’t want to lose his sweetheart can you blame him

the ultimate but also most risky solution is obviously inviting yuta for movies 

which will be appreciated but also cause a storm

mark will definitely break a sweat when you start a popcorn war or try to prove who hugs mark the best 

caught in the middle of mayhem is mark lee’s specialty what did you expect

this either ends with murder or a chaotic open relationship down the line

yuta really is attached but who wouldn’t be

it could be worse mark has double the love you know 

⌈ baekhyun

— motto: you wanna know why i’m your candy?

baby tell me are you ridin’?

in fair verona where we lay our scene...

that baekhyun always wants to woo you — his way, which proves to be very interesting to say the least — is never hard to miss

putting in effort is mochi default mode 

no matter what stage of the relationship you’re in

he might as well regularly serenade you under your balcony in the backyard just because

probably singing ‘baby we can stay up’ and wiggling his ass in all directions because he’s a dirty boy gone wild

yeah. nowadays romeo is twerking instead of feuding with tybalt

that’s good for him and everyone involved

you in particular because you get some very racy eye candy

you know how baekhyun is

at least nobody’s around seeing him put on an 18+ show like that

your little guy is one unhinged fella

if it starts pouring he will grind up and down the next lantern and belt out ‘singing in the rain’

you bet he can do some actual pole dance

he’s strong and bendy you know

and loves to gyrate his whole bag of bones like... he wants to hit you with all the body rolls

in the rain

what a freaky man

but hey you wanna stay up for sure 

doesn’t take long until you beckon him to come upstairs

where the only way to alleviate him of his wet clothes—

oh well he has those roger rabbit vibes and you can’t be mad at it

he will play off all his hormonal antics

baekhyun is hilarious

and so perverted, he can keep up with your spicy idea of playing patty-cake don’t worry

how do i know you’re an extra nsfw kinda person?

who else would like baekhyun

he says juicy things all the time

and does juicy things

yes. finally a couple on eye level indeed. 

when baekhyun asks are you ridin’ you ask how hard 

bruh

this is gonna be fun

and remember

beside handing you sacks of money

his priority is always to make you smile

i’m kidding about the bags but

baekhyun is so rich it’ll show in your relationship, but he’s more about the interactions with you rather than the lifestyle

baekhyun didn’t hustle for a bentley he hustled to sing and get out of sm alive alright

financial stability: important

luxury: very nice to have, he can make you the presents you want to have and travel a lot together

but smiles: baekhyun priority

because he so badly wants to know you love him and adore him, he sometimes feels so insecure

of course you do

you always reassure him with your reactions

it’s very important to him don’t underestimate it

baekhyun has always been talking about his ideal type in terms of how he can cheer her up

so even the naughtiest sexy time evenings are gonna be filled with all giggles

anyway other than that your pussy will be dripping

because this guy is as horny as all other members of super m combined

and you have your ways of leaving him tongue-tied and wrists-tied

taemin’s impact

superm isn’t short of bondage supplies we all know that

so yeah. shibari baekhyun is gonna happen

since he does pilates imagine what kinda shapes you can bend this lil guy into

and take some pictures

privé is in trouble 

bondage model baekhyun is bursting onto the scene

you might even run a risque blog that features cropped pictures with him

heh — you think people will recognize him by his body?

nope

first: you only upload HD pictures that aren’t whitewashed

baekhyun is basically never photographed like that

second: who expects baekhyun to be featured on a bdsm blog with his girlfriend

and this is the guy that drives you around in his expensive car with his big black shades on 

well what can i say

nothing is the way it seems

⌈ taemin

— motto: i’ll unfold a whole new world for you.

taemin is cocky, he’s sensual, and: a very smiley person as we know

least boring relationship ever

he will prance toward you whenever he can to involve you in cuddles

touch-starved taemin is a thing

kkoong can tell you about it, he needs kisses and embraces so often

might as well pepper him with it no problem

and put him into your oversized sweaters when he eats ice cream on the sofa, watching movies, and you brush his ever-growing hair

he’s smol he’s gonna fit into them don’t worry

and on the other hand he likes a rough and tough girl who thinks of him like a boy toy

who acts tsundere or like his bodyguard

working out almost daily to the point of sweat all over

a gal probably able to pretzel minho lucas and chanyeol into one giant bundle

taemin truly has the taste of a divo

multi-layered as always

so you couldn’t say the relationship is always the same in sentiment, the vibe of the dynamic could be different every day

we love a complex man

what would be volatile to others is actually an advantage up close

because taemin understands every difficult facet of himself and his partner 

even if those facets might be contradictory

or something that’s felt shameful about

he will accept and listen anyway

the same goes for getting what drives you

taemin is like a walking psychology velvet couch with fancy swirls as arm rests

point is he isn’t fooled by the surface of the world

he knows what has to be known

which also means your looks aren’t the part he prioritizes

and not even outward personality and habit is what he’s drawn to

it’s the mentality and values underneath

that’s true compatibility to him and he can feel it

he’s really really smart

and also finds it important that you get along with shinee and superm, that you think they’re nice to be around and vice versa

especially kai as taemin’s absolute bearly bestie. if kai thinks you’re shady and you don’t like kai either

or if you’re permanently super awkward and taemin’s moodmaking doesn’t help

we have a problem

but fair enough

kai and taemin are basically one soul at this point so if taemin likes you jongin does anyway 

bff telepathy

in fact jongin was probably the one introducing you to taemin lmao!

because he knows you go well together instinctively and he is correct

so not to worry then

and it’s good on taemin to think longterm and not see you as a person outside of social interaction y’know

cough cough he thinks about marriage, you might be ms. lee one day

here he goes again taemin is just very mature seeing you as well-rounded in every aspect of life

without letting his dick make the important decisions at the detriment of making this a relationship of two lives not just two bodies only

but obviously don’t assume taemin is no horny devil. we all know he dreams of the freakiest scenarios and fantasies in this whole group

going kinda crazy about the thought of making you cum which he always wants to try with new methods

which occupies his mind more than a big bowl of super spicy noodles which is taemin’s favorite meal so

at the same time taemin junior is definitely the same clingy attention whore as his sparkly owner

limp wrists from all the handjobs on your side

and very swollen lips from giving all that head on his side

this is gonna be interesting

he puts the 6v6 in 69

equals 69v69 am i right

but i’m serious that’s gonna be a lot of oral action

you definitely ask each other about having sex very often, daily if you have the time and find a nice spot

and how on earth do both of you keep your hands off each other sleeping in one bed

taemin is touchy as hell with no shyness, and you squish squeeze and grope this guy like the mochi he is

ah when things go both ways

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[kaisooology]

Flustered Kadi Analysis

Hello anons,

So while I was typing out both of your guys’ response, I noticed that I started putting very similar information so I combined them! So here it is:

Kyungsoo is quite an intricate person to examine. If I had the time (I might actually do this in the summer or my next break), I would like to study Kyungsoo’s body language so I (and you guys of course) can understand him better. He has said that he likes to show a different person than who he truly is based on what he’s doing (e.i his ‘D.O’ persona, his ‘Do Kyungsoo the Actor’ persona, his public person and his at home/personal/true persona aka, his core persona). And it’s actually quite easy to do but can get confusing when it’s something you made and not your brain, which is why when he’s doing interviews and they ask questions he’s been asked before, some of the details are changed/come out different. this sections is getting too long oops i’ll talk about this more if i do the d.o personality analysis

Now Jongin, as we’ve seen is very confident on stage. He has a persona that intrigues us all and we love that persona very much. But even the most confident people falter! And it most certainly happens to Jongin in a form called Do Kyungsoo :)

I would like to say that I do kind of agree that Kyungsoo seems to be the type to get very flustered but, after time it’s only natural for him not to get flustered anymore. So what we will be observing is kadi becoming flustered,shy and giggling messes due to an action done by the other.

[Quick Note: I use the terms dominant and submissive (and related words) to describe certain gestures. I would like to point out that those gestures do NOT reflect in anyway towards their sexual relationship. Please do not tag this post with top!soo or top!jongin simply because I said one of them did a dominant gesture.]

Angel Performances - Kyungsoo’s giggles

In the performances of Angel you can see that Kyungsoo becomes a giggling mess whenever Jongin is facing him and dancing in front of him (who wouldn’t I mean look at the way Jongin is looking at him, personally i’d melt and faint). 

It’s more clearly seen in the video but whenever this moment of the dance is about to happen, Kyungsoo is already holding back a small smile; he knows he’s about to see Jongin, he knows what’s coming. Then once he turns around and faces Jongin, his heart bursts and the giggles explode out of him. I’ve truly never seen Kyungsoo more happy than in this moment right here. This is the moment where Kyungsoo lets himself go, it’s the moment where he looks the most free, ethereal, and happy. 

Then of course, Jongin starts smiling because who doesn’t want to smile when the love of their life is looking at them like that? Again, it’s more notable in the video, but Jongin starts of his usual serious, focused on the dance, sexy self. A couple seconds later though, he sees Kyungsoo’s reaction to him and he starts to smile real big and chuckles at the sight! He breaks out of his kai persona and becomes Jongin for that little amount of time and I think that’s really beautiful.

Now back to kyungsoo haha, in the video you can see that after Jongin leaves, he realizes that it’s almost his time to sing. But… he’s still on the high of happiness! So what does he do? He expands his mouth in order to calm himself down. This gesture is usually done for this very reason, to stretch out your mouth and force your laugh/smile into another gesture. This can be done to conceal a laugh/smile due to it no longer being normal for the situation or because you have to speak and don’t have time to let your laugh/smile die down by itself. Kyungsoo is about to sing so he obvious has to do this but I have a feeling that he also does it because he knows it must look it a bit unnatural for him to be the only other member smiling like that.

(bonus: @ 1:45 kai bites his lip when d.o makes his way over to him)

Jongin’s Stare - Causes even the most serious of hyungs to falter

Video 

In this glorious gif we see Kyungsoo laughing about something and we also see Jongin staring at him (per usual) And like most lovers, Kyungsoo’s first instinct is to look at Jongin. This is because, when in a group of people, you will instinctively look at the person you are closest to while laughing. I know a lot of people say this but no one’s explained why so here we go:

The reason people look at the person they are closest to is because humor initiation and appreciation is sort of a way that people initiate and maintain social relationships. Humor is in a way a form of people trying to express their interest and gauge a corresponding level of agreement with others. There has been a repeated case study (where the outcome is always very similar), that showed that most people will laugh more/express themselves more when the person they are with is someone they have a interest in or they know really well. This is again, because you are trying to maintain a steady relationship with that person you are looking towards. It already knows the person really well/wants to get to know the person and so you feel more free to show this positive side of you to them. (in this situation of kd) This then turns into the idea that someone that has interest in you (and vice versa) will repeat an action you have done because of wanting to show that you are interested in them. You want to show that you are alike and are to be trusted because of that. Kadi do this a lot, especially while laughing, and this gif shows that too.

Now that we’ve covered that haha, we can see that Jongin finds this adorable side of Kyungsoo very amusing. He especially shows this by bursting out in smiles and turning to show the audience, almost like “look, my Kyungsoo is so cute!” This causes an immediate burst of flustered-ness and giggles from Kyungsoo who even goes as far as bend slightly because of all the emotions. 

Jongin’s “I love you” - *Kyungsoo forcing himself to not get flustered*

Ah I absolutely love this but it also makes me mad that Kyungsoo had to strictly only say “ah i see” because we could see a proper reaction :((

In this gif, all of Kyungsoo’s true emotions to what Jongin has just said are shown through his eyes. The eyes are very good indicators at true emotions. 

First we see Kyungsoo’s eyes go down and to the left. This means he’s deep in thought/thinking to himself. He’s probably doing this because he’s trying to create a way for himself not to properly react to Jongin’s words and make it seem completely banterish and normal rather than romantic and meaningful. His eyes, then stay down and move to the right which indicates that he is attending to his internal emotions. This is very expected since the person he loves just told him “I love you” on a broadcast(?) and so he is experiencing an overwhelming emotion aka causing him to get flustered and shy. 

Then we see him adorably and lovingly look at Jongin. From the way he swoops his head to make eye contact with Jongin to the way he glances up at him, he is replicating the gesture done by people when looking at someone in a submissive manner (this has nothing to do with sexual submission). It’s just a gesture of shyness like when Person A compliments Person B and Person B turns to the ground for comfort then slowly half looks at Person B since they are all shy and flustered. 

Jongin’s Menacing Stare - Poor Kyungsoo just wants him to stop 

I’m sure we’ve all seen this gif at least one time in our kadi shipping lives and I’m pretty sure we’ve all read an analysis on this moment at some point or another so I’ll keep this one kind of short (or at least try to)

First let me point out that Baek is looking at the ground, Suho is speaking and looking towards the camera, Chanyeol starts off staring into space but then turns to face the camera and kadi, well they’re staring at each other. Jongin here, has the evident dominant gesture as he is the one causing the fluster in Kyungsoo. Jongin seems all chill about it but of course Kyungsoo is being heavily affected.

So let’s start with his eyes. You can see that he immediately starts blinking rapidly which is a sign of nervousness, a unconscious rapport, anxiety and/or stress. In this case we can combine his other gestures (pupil movement, gulping, mouth twitch, all of which I will talk about in a sec) and assume that he feels nervous, anxious and possibly unconscious rapport. In summary, this point alone is key to him being flustered. Then of course, his pupil movement. Eyes express more than we want them to and Kyungsoo’s eye movement that floats down and to the right shows that he is attending to his internal emotions. This is his body trying to control the anxiousness/nervousness caused by Jongin’s strong stare. 

Next, his gulping, also another sign of nervousness/anxiousness. Gulping in moments like these is because of a sudden rush of adrenaline that causes excessive saliva to build up in our throat. And, on top of that, his mouth twitches upwards, another means of nervousness/anxiousness. 

In general, this boy is just a flustered nervous mess under Jongin’s stare haha.

Kyungsoo’s Aegyo - Jongin’s biggest fanboy moment

I really like this moment because of not only Kyungsoo’s adorable aegyo but because of Jongin’s reaction! Jongin getting giggly is fav just saying haha  I’d just like to quickly point out that Kyungsoo getting embarrassed and flustered over his own aegyo is so beautiful haha

This is quite the legendary moment because it was such a grand moment. Jongin is the only member who reacted to such an extent, well, really reacted at all. All the other members laughed of course, they thought it was funny! It’s no big deal to them, obviously. But to Jongin, it seems to be. This man literally became the fandom when Kyungsoo did his aegyo - I for one know I reacted the same way. 

First, he has to turn away because he can’t handle the emotions and he’s trying to find another person to share this huge emotion with (he doesn’t find anyone lol which I’ll talk about in a sec) Then we have his legs that are stomping the ground, another form of trying to let out a huge emotion when you can’t totally express it. It’s almost like the same gesture he does when he’s laughing so hard, he starts hitting something to let out the (positive) frustration of the huge emotion of laughter. It’s just so much that his body’s instant reaction is to hit something as another form of letting it out since simply laughing won’t do. This is also similar; he’s in a position of not being able to fully express his love/excitement for Kyungsoo’s aegyo that his body has to show it through exciting his legs into movement. 

Finally, when he notices that he’s the only one with such a reaction, he runs his hand over his thigh in a form of comfort/ to calm him down. Then he adjusts his legs by spreading them open a little bit, a form almost similar to the feeling of restarting oneself or in simpler terms going back to your original position (in Jongin’s case a relaxed position in which he is being interviewed along with his members). 

Kyungsoo’s ‘Chocolate’ during My Lady - Jongin has to turn away

A video posted by @alvabear94 on Dec 10, 2016 at 8:25pm PST

Ah, I’ve already talked about this before (x) so I’ll keep this short:

First, the way he tilts his head away (again because he is in a position of restricted movement that his body is trying to contain the emotion). This is commonly seen when person A compliments person B and so person B has to turn away so that person A won’t see them smiling/blushing. It’s a form of not wanting to show the other person this ‘weak spot’ of yours which is why you turn away. Though here, I think Jongin was trying to keep us (the fans) from noting that he couldn’t contain his emotions but in reality it made it more obvious. For one, because he was the only member that was looking at Kyungsoo. Second because he turned while none of the other members were moving and when no other thing except Kyungsoo could’ve caused him to move. 

Then obviously we see Jongin’s little smile pop out. He probably thought something along the lines of ‘ah kyung, why do have to do this to me~’ . He probably knew that if he stayed looking at Kyungsoo that he’d be reprimanded so he turned away. I love this moment so much

Kyungsoo saying Kai-sshi - Jongin losing it ft. exo members also losing it

A video posted by @alvabear94 on Jun 15, 2016 at 10:08pm PDT

This one is kind of here for fun. The video itself is very self explanatory as to why this is here (even the show/broadcast could tell jongin got flustered/nervous by Kyungsoo lolol). This was supposed to not be this long lmao

The first major gesture we see here is that Jongin freezes up. When this happens it’s usually your body going into a state of shock. In this case, it appears that Jongin is very shocked by Kyungsoo’s “Kai-sshi”. In fact, it seems that Kyungsoo purposely emphasized it that way. His tone raises slightly and his voice is a little louder. He even had a little smirk but that camera flashed to Jongin before we could fully see it. Kyungsoo (in the video) is in a position where he is ‘in control’ of the whole interview. He has quite some power right now (obviously to a very small extent lol but still) and he is enjoying it. He takes this opportunity to be a little tease toward his members and this is a great show of it. Kyungsoo’s smirk which showcases that he is feeling very smug right now definitely threw Jongin in for a loop. It even surprised the whole of exo! Jongin especially acknowledges Kyungsoo’s teasing by doing the continually movement of raising and lower his eyebrows which is an invitation or acknowledgement, it can be friendly or sexual, in this case it’s a friendly acknowledgement. Almost like saying “Well how about that !”

Jongin proceeds to laugh it off (and so do all the members) but now he’s nervous. You can tell because he starts rubbing his left ear. Though rubbing the ear can mean lying as well, due to the above paragraph and our knowledge of Jongin and his hardworking-ness, we know he isn’t lying about what he’s talking about. Anyway, it doesn’t take long for him to regain posture and answer the question properly… but after he’s done talking, MC Kyungsoo strikes again.

Instead of being smug though, he is very playful this time. He’s straight up messing with Jongin to elicit a reaction. Jongin laughs again, but not because he finds it funny but because he finds it amusing. You can tell because when he finds things funny his laugh pitch is raised but when things are amusing to him, his laugh pitch is a lower tone (this is a more general observation). Then Jongin does the iconic ‘raising and lowering’ of the eyebrows. (as stated previous) This suggests an invitation or acknowledgement. In this case though I believe it’s a more sexual, teasing “oh ;)”. This is also emphasized by the slight tilt of the head and movement of the jaw (and possibly the tongue but the video isn’t great quality so I can’t be for sure)

And, if you’ve seen skam, it is very similar to Even’s teasing towards Isak in this moment (and we all know where this leads to lol):

Jongin’s Dancing - Kyungsoo can’t handle kai’s dancing

A video posted by @alvabear94 on May 20, 2016 at 8:21am PDT

“D.O": Although kai is my dongsaeng, he’s really cool and sexy to the point where you can’t help but fall in love with him when you watch him performing on stage. His facial expressions are not rookie-like at all. When I ask him questions during dance practice, he doesn’t act tired by it at all and really teaches you step by step.” 

Whereas the other gifs/videos I’ve talked about have flustered kadi in an adorable or teasing way, this one is more sexual.

First, let’s start with Kyungsoo’s bedroom eyes. This gesture is shown through the whole video, it literally never leaves his face. This look (as you may have guessed it or known), is used to describe a person who looks at another with sexual longing. This is even more supported by the fact that he blinks less, and every time he does, it’s slow. This is also in combination with how he prolongedly stared at Jongin. (also if you watch carefully, you’ll notice that he blinks when Xiu_min covers Jongin from his view).

Then, we see Kyungsoo gulp or swallow and as mentioned before, this is a sign of nervousness. But, this is a different form of nervousness. This isn’t nervousness due to someone’s stare and you don’t know what to do but a nervousness due to sexual want (as the expression goes, ‘he is thirsty’ lol pun lowkey intended). This only gets more sexually implying as many have noticed that Kyungsoo looks towards his crotch after he gets up. And really, the only reason people look at crotches is (especially as a male) 1) because they are attracted to it 2)  to compare sizes 3) check for a boner. And I’m pretty sure Kyungsoo isn’t attracted to his own crotch nor does he need to compare it since it’s his. So the only other thing he could possibly looking for is for a boner. Especially after being as aroused as he was with Jongin, who wouldn’t?

Bonus: 

Cockblocking Suho - Kyungsoo trying to be indiscreet but being caught

Since this is only two pictures and not a gif or video, I can’t really comment too much on it. But, for general purposes: 

Kyungsoo, in the first picture, is staring at Jongin (casual bro things you know?) He seems to be finding something funny so it brings us back to the ‘people stare at the person they are closest too in a group while laughing’. (I’ve explained this above so reread that if you forgot or care why). He seems to not have expected Jongin to notice (as seen through the second picture). but he might’ve forgotten that Jongin appears to have a “Kyungsoo alarm” so Jongin ended up turning towards him and smiling at him. Kyungsoo of course, who didn’t expect this, reacts by looking down, a shy smile on his face as he looks down and to the right. The staring to the down and to the right, as I mentioned previously, is a showing that he is attending to internal emotions. Needless to say, he got very shy and flustered by Jongin haha.

Well, there you have it. I apologize for any typos (especially if they cause misunderstandings). I’d like to quickly credit dika-dika  and dohkyeongsoo for some of the gifs I needed, very much appreciated! 

I hope you anons see this and I hope everyone enjoyed!!

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Honestly, I feel dance is more about the feel than getting the choreography right? So even tho there might be technically amazing dancers, at the end of the day i still prefer to watch the most emotive ones.

Other than main dancers mentioned here, who are all famous for a reason, I'd like to mention a few other people like Taehyung, who should honestly be part of the dance line already lol, he's at Jungkook's level and has excellent control of his facial expressions, which makes his performance so enjoyable to watch.

Another one is EXO's Xiumin. This guy may not be a trained dancer(as far as I know), and EXO has stellar dancers but he still stands out? He's compact, and knows how to use his body, if that makes sense, has insane charisma as well

Taeyong is another stand out performer, and I love his style so much?? It's really similar to Jongin's so that's probably it lol

I haven't really watched much of Ten's stuff for me to comment, but reading ur analysis I really wanna watch his performances

Also PS Taemin's Move choreography honestly was groundbreaking and just makes me feel so awed everytime I watch it.

Hi I just read ur thread on dance and can I say I agree with EVERYTHING??LIKE EVERYTHING OMG I can't even describe this like jongin is my fav kpop dancer but something always seemed off about it, and u pointed that out, and once I saw N on stage I'm always wondering WHY he's not up there with the big name dancers in the industry and completely agree with Taemin being the literal embodiment of dance omg (1)

“And I’ve always thought N is one of the most fluid dancers out there so!! It’s nice to have people point that out, and how Jimins stature makes him pull off ALL the styles and how jongins practiced expressions have always bothered me but I didn’t know what it was lol,,so tysm for this thread it’s been years since I danced but I felt happy seeing something unbiased like this, something I couldn’t put words into,, since everything in kpop is a competition lol so tysm and have a nice day! (2)“

Aw thanks :)

It’s nice to see that there’s other people who look critically at the idols’ abilities, because it’s such a key aspect of an artists’ growth. Out of curiosity, as a dancer yourself, who do you think are some top standouts besides the ones you mentioned? 

BTW, I love messages like these in and would definitely love to see yours and anyone else’s thoughts on these topics. It’s nice to have a civil discussion on the artistry in kpop

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Summary

So I made this blog for a paticular reason that reason has become null and void at this point. I figured some things out and it was time to move on. But I still made the blog. I usually just leave it rot in the ether of the internet but twitter is...I can’t talk that much and I talk alot. Also it’s quieter here. So I be busy and my brain is like..lots of ideas live in there and they do not pay rent and refuse to be evicted so I literally have no choice but to do something with them. Now because I am four years older than 18 my mind basically that of an old person now so I must write everything down. Everything. Or else I will return here and not know what in the world I planned on doing so for the future me and my sanity and whoever comes on here and finds anything interesting and is like hmm that is intriguing but what else is there like what will this person write about next. Well okay I will put here a detailed list of all the posts I plan on creating. Most are already written or drafted out in my google docs because I pre plan almost everything I can’t help it. This can change depending on how I think the format fits. Also since most of these are still in draft/research stage some ideas from years ago I may not even subscribe to the belief anymore but I still put in a lot of work so maybe it will interest somebody. So in no particular order

#Atlantagate (kai and blackness there’s a lot to unpack)

Jongin dance analysis

Batman v superman analysis

Kai the first album analysis

Jongin: actual fallen angel? Analysis

Avatar/Avatar the way of water analysis

Kai and Taeyong analysis//

Kai behavior analysis// this one has to be broken down into several including attachment style, body language, hypers2xuality, behavior towards men v women, and major childhood events.

Comparing Lee sooman and Johnny Kitagawa

Abusive practices in kpop that are openly accepted/laughed at and why this is the new normal_ but this can be tired into other theories

Rover Film Analysis _obviously not done yet

Kai and dispatch a long history. Why he’s their go to boy

Why aang is the best avatar in existence

Jongin music analysis: this is the last one I’m putting no this isn’t me analyzing his music but the music he’s listened to for years and how I think it reflects a lot of things about him. I actually jotted down notes about his taste in music and after doing more research pretty much everything I thought about him was true. His taste in music and movies is so revealing because he’s such a transparent person. He is secretive yet at the same time wants people to know certain things. Some of those things are true and some aren’t. 

LAST ONE whew. Kai is a method actor. Like a serious method actor. I learned that watching Andante you know what. Andante analysis. 

So yeah I’ll try and see what’s the best to do first but like if anybody anywhere wants anything specific just say it cause if not I’ll just whatever whenever. I say this because as much as I love just reaffirming my own beliefs I’m always open for correction or broader thinking or just a good conversation. I hate petty arguing it’s so pointless to me and I much prefer to actual talk it out with people. 

so yeah that’s it for now