#jon being a reddit dudebro misogynist for calling myrcella insipid
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blankwhiteshield explains so eloquently what i tried to say in this post of mine and it has been bugging me ever since i joined the internet fandom.
i think a lot of fandom should learn to stop trying to grapple criticism from a doylist perspective with watsonian arguments. u can analyze the text for what it is, and decipher what the author’s actual intentions and the themes they are dealing with are (& see the merit in them), and criticize execution and the issues from outside. art is not something that comes from the ether, it is written by someone lmao. engage with fiction like it is fiction. it is criticism of author, not watsonian criticism of a character. it is also very obvious when u all just pretend to care and make use of legitimate grievances to support an unfounded watsonian read, which leads to criticism of author getting lost in criticism of a character (as if they were a real person), because of perpetual discourse brain.
#asoiaf#watsonian#doylist#grrm#apart from the examples i gave in that post i can thing of a thousand more#jon being a reddit dudebro misogynist for calling myrcella insipid#even jaime being a rapist is ambiguous to me i can totally see the problematic rape culture defining grrm and the way he wrote this scene#but jaime rapist? i don't think he intended to write him as rapist sorry#it is such a complicated dynamic between them#so many examples#the dothraki mess being entirely attributed to targs being supremacists#i will add more later#and there are also many choices of the author that aren't really problematic per se they are just choices and you don't vibe with those#but then you trash characters for it#for example this story has a medieval setting it's a feudal society but you accuse the protagonists for being a part of it#for example you accuse dany for wanting to be queen cause it's morally bad to be queen or king#when the story itself is literally about a bunch of people wanting the iron throne#like bro what are you doing engaging with this story to begin with
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