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If it’s possible can you yap about 2022 a little bit more 🥺 I really love your perspective. Like maybe signature moments you think that altered your brain and lead to 2025 jmj that we have today. If you don’t feel lazy though! It’s okay if you don’t want to!
see to me 2022 is the year they start hooking up! their first kiss happened either in late 2021 or when they were trainees and they started to full on making out after their newyork trip. when turtlez get their own room while ningrina were still rooming together because their manager was staying with them, jm often sneaked up to mj's room and their makeout sessions always went one step ahead than the previous ones. also we know how into each other they were from moments like these

also here im pretty sure mj was sending jm a kiss at the last part:

and they had this matching profile pics around late 2021 so it wont be far fatched to say they started to make out that early:
now i dont think they ever talked about this new found intimacy and their first time went like this:
also i said this before im not sure if anyone remembers it but they fought like ppl that fuck. like are you telling me that two friends are fighting about how one is unromantic?? we still dont know the context of it too. so i think their first hookup happened before coachella(probably spring of 2022), they were loveydovey before going there too then something happened which lead to that arguement then it was resolved(if you looked at the thread i linked it on the previous ask you can see how jm gives in and trying to coax mj) but they made up without addressing the real issue. that summer was awkward in general and i think you can see it at the manager show. also that show is where aeri tells jm "you are not going to daydrink again are you?" so we know jm's alcoholism tendencies already started.
i think these unspoken feelings led to cracks in their relationship and there were times where they acted distant but it wasnt as noticable like 2023. so I think it went down like this: mj getting upset at jm, jm trying to coax her but when mj drags it out too long jm getting upset at mj. In august during smtown they seem close but I think they just made up with some unspoken words. real making up happened in paris after they went to see eiffel tower in casual clothes (all girls went out on "dates" but they took pics and were dressed up with bunch of staff aroun them. jmj's were more intimate imo.) then they were so so close when they were going back to korea you just know they fucked idc idc. their paris moments:
and i would say they contunied to be good until like april 2023. just look at this moment from march 2023 but like they werent sharing much stuff with the fans. im pretty sure they didnt share one selfie from the time they were promoting for got the beat during early 2023.

some highlights from 2022:
alsoo before jm does this right here:

a nct member helps mj like this so maybe jm was jealous because she hands out her hand the excatly same!!

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Hey dizzy!!
Would you keep these dates or are there any changes you would like to make? 👀
Hello! I honestly changed my opinion on some of these dates and this is sort of my updated jiminjeong timeline assuming the 2024 dating scandals are fake (don't take this too seriously this is just me being delusional lol)
THE JIMINJEONG TIMELINE:DIZZY VERSION
/PAST EVENTS/
-Began crushing on eo: they both started crushing on each other around predebut (2018/19?), but mj was aware of it and jm was in heavy denial so we could say jm didn't want to admit being in love with her coworker/best friend until 2021 or later
-first times:They totally were each others first kisses and first times, they had their first kiss back in 2019/2020 (and i bet they were drunk as fuck) and they had their first sexual intercourse with each other around 2021 or so, then they started having this casual on and off kissing and fucking sessions often until both of them couldn't handle the pain of keeping it casual anymore and then stopped doing it in really early 2023 cause they started seeing other people and hooking up with them as a scapegoat
Becoming exclusive: I think at some point they might have seen other people while being in this big situationship but I think they stopped seeing people around mid 2023 and just got in this big celibacy period where they wanted to be with each other and at the same time they couldn't because of some tension and other stuff
Becoming like an actual serious item: I still think that they actually settled down in early 2024 and they actually put a name to their relationship (girlfriends?, wives? soulmates? partners? who knows, but they seem to be sure that they are the ones for each other)
/FUTURE EVENTS/
-First intimate hug on camera: I'm lowkey thinking we might get an intimate hug on camera when that 2+ hours unreleased behind the scenes content comes out this month, but if that wasn`t the case I'm aiming for the official intimate hug around mid/late 2025/early 2026 (Although I do have high hopes for a proper hug on the second leg of this tour hehe)
-first kiss (could be anywhere) on camera; I am also thinking that we might get a cheek kiss or head kiss when that unreleased behind the scenes content releases this month, but again, If that wasn't the case we might get a proper cheek kiss maybe around 2026/27?
-them subtly coming out: we might get this in 2026/28 ( I don't trust 2027 guys!!), If I were to put a specific time range, I'm sensing that the days 12 to 30 of june 2026 or 2028 we might get some subtle signs of coming out
-them being engaged (privately not saying shit to the public): look, this might have happened around last year already, but if it hasn't I have a hunch that they might get engaged while on tour (soo around february or march 2025)
-them coming out publicly: Let's be honest, this might never happen unless South Korean society evolves quickly (and the rest of the world too, lately it feels like we're evolving backwards and not forward) but In an Ideal future jiminjeong would come out in 2030 or later when aespa is on their tenth year and each of them have solidified a life long spot in south korean entertainment history, maybe once they feel comfortable enough being at risk of losing their careers they might come out publicly, we'll never know, but I do hope that society stops going backwards in general, the future looks bleak.
-Marriage: They marry in Thailand the 27th of august of 2026 in a very private wedding with nn and gs and some family members or maybe they just marry without anyone invited yepyep
THE END
Anyways this is my updated timeline of events :D
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https://x.com/foraespa1117/status/1891413611534238084?t=jZ1ACnDz7SC0MZdI09Np0A&s=19
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the whole domestic vibe this video has with them lying down. also mj's hand (was she petting jm?) and gorgeous jimin... what are your thoughts?
well this video is so interesting because if you watch their interviews from this day it seemed like jm was upset/frustrated with mj! for example here at the begining, the question is who is more affectionate, and everyone answers jm while jm answers gigi which even gigi is surprised with! you can see mj awkwardly laughing too and when jm explains her answer with "youre the only one answers back when i say i love you", mj says "what? is that right?" (they didnt fully translate what mj said in the vid)🙄🙄
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here too at 2:13 mj links her arms with jm but jm looks at it and unlinks it! i always thought that jm was the one that first said "i love you" and mj couldnt say it back which made jm frustrated with her! this fits their "youre so unromantic fight too" so probably something happened that reminded jm of their unspoken feelings and she was cold to mj that day until they made up hence that moment hapenning later
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i think jm was always ready to love mj selflessly but sometimes she felt used and without proof of mj's love towards her that made jm resent her. remember jm saying they have to dig for mj's feelings to figure out why she is upset about something and jm is glad to do that but sometimes it can be tiring when youre already stressed out about everything and all you want to do is shut your brain up and fall into your lovers arms but your lover gives you the cold shoulder without you even knowing why. when stuff like this happened and jm was tired of mj's behaviour, i think she became cold too until they made up! maybe that day mj tried to coax jm orrr lets make this a little toxic and say mj got angry at jm for not choosing her and turned that around to make it jm's fault to be spoiled which led to jm trying to make it up to her just like that unromantic fight!

honestly i could yap about 2022 jmj forever i hope this made sense<3<3
here is my yapping about how jm said "i love you" which can give you insight on how i view their personalities more

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what happened with them in 2023..? just in relation to the previous anon..?
i think this is something you might have noticed if you were a stan during that time because its not about what did they do and more about what they didnt do because there were times they didn’t interact at all. it wasnt like ppl on here doomposting everytime the girls hang out with their other friends, during that time you could tell the vibes were off because they didnt interact and they werent having dates in every spot they landed into but rather they choose to hang out with others. compare waterbomb and hongkong kcon for example. during waterbomb there is like one moment and its the members laughing bcs of aeri then jm guides mj into position for the next song while during kcon they were inseparable like how they usually act during a festival/award show etc. i think jm showed more effort to hang out with mj than the opposite like after a day of hanging out separately (i think mj was with managers) jm was eager to see her again

another thing is how mj celebrated jm’s birthday like during this year she didnt post a pic of them but she was still more sincere than this. like the last time i said this someone called me greedy but this nawt the mj i know idc!! like we got the “its love” vid prior to this
overall i wont say they were fighting actively but they werent the jmj we know right now only thing we depended on was them looking at each others direction at a concert but stuff started to change for the better after jms insta post and these:

honestly it was something that lasted few months rather than a year so maybe im being dramatic but.
edit:another example i can give is them during the spicy era radioshow guesting
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Whats was the meaninful chuseok im new
they had a london concert on chuseok and they took a walk that morning then jimin said shes having a more meaningful chuseok than everyone else

https://x.com/winrinabbl/status/1707364019617603652
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Thinking about in the early days jmj where jm loved Minjeong too much to fully pull away from her but was too wrapped up in her own head to be with Minjeong fully
And there’s mj who just takes any bit of attention her unnie will give her
It was that moment in the savage relay dance where jm turns and grabs mjs shoulders, pushing her back, and mj is shocked but does nothing but smile back at jm that reminds me of this
It’s definitely a fun clip and all in good nature but it just makes me think about jm sometimes getting too overwhelmed with her desire for mj (maybe even more than desire - romantic feelings, but it’s easier for her to dismiss them as purely lust and wanting to blow off steam than it is for her to admit she has feelings for the girl) she would pull her in close, kiss her, maybe even more, and mj is surprised bc jms been icing her out a bit recently but also just too happy that she has jm (even if just for this very moment) that she doesn’t even question it, maybe even too scared to ask jm about it because she knows the older girl will leave her again as soon as she brings it up
Anyway feeling very emo over early jmj
you have my exact thoughts about that one vid omgg mj just looks so surprised but also so damn happy to be close to jm like that :((( i agree with you btw! also i think for the overwhelmed with her desire part you can see that in the radio show they went to for savage, the day jm were wearing dark makeup, she was so playful and flirty with mj! to add another thing i think thats why mj didnt mind jm drinking in the early days bcs it made her unnie more affectionate.
because of that period of time i cant never make my mind up about when they started hooking up bcs this exist but also sometimes 2021 feels too soon for them to do it but when you consider the factors like stress of debuting, the emotions they repressed why not

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it kills me that we’ll never know what went down with them in 2023. like I want to know all about what they were fighting about and how they made up. they’ve been seemingly so in sync since then. nevertheless i am thankful they got through whatever it was and hope we never go back 😌
well i think the roots of it was from 2022 which is a year they started fooling around in my delusional head and since they couldn't get themselves to talk about it, it led to cracks in their relationship. those cracks led their silly arguments to blow up into something more serious and that caused them to be cold to each other. i dont think they were fighting all the time but it was very on and off during the summer like they would hang out with each other with no problems but something would happen that will remind them to reality of their situation and buum they would become awkward, being around each other would feel suffocating. i think around late august they started to make an effort to be more civil around each other because they couldnt handle this sinking feeling any longer. i think the vibes of this awkward making up phase is apparent in meta behind and that day jimin made the "fall is just around the corner" post with mj too
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Mj on their last tour having a push and pull angsty friends with benefits hate sex relationship to deal with and then performing a ballad about the fear of confessing and getting rejected to thousands of people … she’s stronger than me ong
oh that song is actually crazy bcs its basically saying “i already confessed you, you just need to look at my actions and not my words” which was the biggest problem jm had with mj like she needed something concrete from mj like “i love you” but mj is too shy to do that.. they really gave her a song fit perfectly for them😭😭
also look at how shy they were here!!

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I think the winter, karina, giselle instagram live they did in august 2023 is peak jmj angst yearn
So in my personal timeline headcanon (and I think shared by a lot of others) 2023 was a patchy time for them - early on going into a more platonic / no sex era (due to arguments that came from over complicating their friendship, but they still felt romantic + sexual things for each other, which then became more intense the longer the tried to stay away from each other). I think the tour was what made them start hooking up again- the freedom of being away from Korea, the adrenaline from tour, the being together constantly. So at the time of this live, we have a jmj who hookup in secret on tour, pretending to themselves and to each other it’s not romantic, which is then making them unconsciously tetchy and on edge with each other when they’re not hooking up (on stage, in rehearsal- this again is also enhanced by the being together all day everyday with tour rehearsals and the performances themselves).
Now in the live we see
- a kind of off energy the whole way through. Of course they’re still friends and acting like such but also compared to their 2022/earlier lives where they were clingy + affectionate to this? It just makes the whole vibe a bit.. it seems like jm is less comfortable than when she did lives alone or with aeri in this era (see: her hiding her face, her wanting to go off camera occasionally, her needing a break to “get sweets”)
- despite this, jm is clearly staring at mj a lot this live. When she does turn her head from the screen, it’s nearly always at mj even when she’s not talking. And there is a very noticeable point where she is looking at mj through the screen (she smiles to herself when mj pulls a face)
- kind of jealous jm? Whenever aeri and mj are interacting or joking or laughing between them jms face falls completely flat. I wouldn’t say she looks angry or jealous persay but she just stops talking and smiling and stares dead faced - maybe more dare fetched but her completely out the blue calling out that fan that said they wanted to date mj 😭
- maybe fits with the jealousy thing but it needs a point of its own bc it makes me laugh- mj talking about snails and goes “unnie can’t eat snails though”, then jm immediately going “I can ?” and then getting corrected when mj reveals she was talking to giselle instead 😭 she assumed she was in mjs head as much as mjs in hers
- and speaking of! The classic jm mid conversation laughing to herself about a conversation her and mj had and then awkwardly having to explain it
- mj as well just seems not very interactive with jm? When it was conversations of the three of them they’d all talk, and yes it probably was hard for them to interact with giselle in between them- but again going from mj who would lean over people just to hold jms hands to an mj who didn’t even really look at her much? Combined with jm just giving a kind of sad energy
- jm making a comment that she hoped nn scared winter through the hotel walls in the middle of the night. The joke itself was normal but that whole section seemed so odd again. (Theory is jm was practically begging for mj to invite her to stay in her room and using her being scared as an excuse)
Anyway sorry for such a rant im just rewatching it now and going crazy. As the live progresses they do both seem to get more into it and interact a bit more and are giggly more but it makes me think it was tense between the two of them before they started
omg this is actually such a good analysis that made me want to rewatch the live bcs i felt that mj wasnt really interactive with jm back then too! also i agree with the timeline in your head the semi hate-fucks went hard during the tour🙂↕️🙂↕️
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Piggybacking this legendary analysis you can genuinely see the insane yearning and the cute awkwardness with them in the tingle interview(this interview was published in 2023 Nov this was during drama era when they started to fix things I guess). I LOVED the fake “gagging” when they looked at each other’s eyes and the chemistry test excitement. Jm craves for validation about her chemistry and soulmatesim with Mj like she NEEDS people to see how good they get along and know each other. The way they both picked “You” from the album was cherry on top. After that everything went up hill!
https://x.com/dangonim/status/1872720302968586705?s=46
(Adding to this video we had jealous and territorial mj as well after Karina’s performance with yujin like she literally fought back and claimed her gf while marking Karina as the only member in her instagram)
One thing I love about aespa is their consistency and their room for improvement. Because of their healthy growth I genuinely think this affects their relationship as a group and as gfs for jmj positively. Before, even though they were super popular and globaly known aespa was bit of a mess because of the companies uncertainty and the hate train they received so it makes totally sense of their on and off relationship and their messy arguments (this what’s makes them a real ass couple btw.) I mean let’s be honest Giselle was severely depressed, Karina was alcohol dependent, Winter had insane social anxiety and Nigning was trying to hold everyone as much as she can 2021-2023 was NOT for the weak.I think your timeline is right and I don’t think their relationship is new I think what changed is they are more at ease knowing the group is thriving and they’re finally getting the recognition and success they deserve as aespa.
thank you!! also youre spot on how aespa's status effecting jmj as a couple too and i feel like every idol relationship can turn messy even straight ones bcs that industry seems like hell

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i wondered what jm thought/felt when she found out mj had a crush on her back then
i think she started to overthink every moment they ever shared and started to treat her extremely gentle but tried to put some distance between them since she didnt know what to do with mj's feelings yet
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do u think it's possible mj is with another girl who's not jm
i would say it is possible if she didnt do all these after she talked about katarinabluu and her blue fingernails and if she wasnt so astronomically down bad rn! i think maybe in the past when they were in a rocky place mj met up with some girls and they helped her mature but i cant see her with somebody else other than jm rn and if she is lets pray for that girl bcs mj is just soooo jiminmatized it would be impossible to not get insecure especially if your competion is someone like jm😭😭
what crack theory i have is (i dont really believe in it but What If situation yk?) mj had something going on with her elementary school friend, she started to talk about her a lot in 2023 too, her bambi pfp from insta was matching with her, they went to some private place in woods together etc but she changed her pfp and i dont think she talked about her ever since but the timing of them going to okinawa together kinda messes up with jmj timeline in my head so,,, or jmj tried to be together but their situationship ended in early 2023, they became friends again towards the end of the summer without being romantic (or at least they tried to) both of them were seeing ppl during their cold and friends era but they broke up with whoever they are seeing because they wanted to be together! all of these are very fanficy though and i dont really believe in it i also dont want to theorize about how they are fucking every single one of their friends but it was just odd to me how mj doesnt talk about her anymore when she was in bunch of her vlogs
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hi nat, i apologize in advance in case you have answered asks like this before but it's just that i'm genuinely curious about jmj rookie and early days... and I feel like you're one of those mys that can answer this..? im not sure lol but I do believe in your investigative journalism skills
like i have seen stuff wherein it's mj that's all over jm, like this one:
https://x.com/karwinfan/status/1780022642315346370?s=46&t=J8BlxyRvXETtTGmEs4Xu5A
the finger biting, and all the other stuff mj did...
but looking at it now, it seems like they changed personas. It's now jm that is annoying (affectionately) mj, initiating skinships and is more vocal about how she adores mj. what do you think was the catalyst for that to happen? Thanks in advance!!!
btw i became a my during synk road era 😅
no need to apologize!! i know this isnt excatly what youre asking but i wanna first adress the video you linked! jm used to overcompensate when stuff like that happened, remember that one vid where they are about whisper something to each other, wendy looks over them and turns around quickly and jm reacts 1 second late to their closeness like its an afterthought so that vid is an example of her overcompensating some stuff!
come to answer your actual question, i think jm always annoyed mj(affectionately) but mj used to tease jm a lot too like making fun of her aegyo or how she was walking in heels, as time passed mj became more closed off and less affectionate on camera which is probably because she matured and also because of unspoken tension she had with jm. i cant say "this happened so mj started to became distant" bcs it was something that happened with time and it was probably around 2022. the reason jm was a little bit more distant when they first debuted was probably bcs she was a leader and needed to show equal treatment to everyone infront of camera. i think behind the scenes she was still all over mj because of this:

i think rn mj acts like the debut era but her mature version
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omg ok i finished watching it and basically it’s kind of a compilation of jmj moments presented by a girl to her friends i think in a slightly unserious slideshow to say jmj are dating and very obvious abt it
brief summary of the slideshow and i def missed some things but this is the general gist of it:
recounting the sm trainee story abt jm being down bad from day 1
the jmj christmas finger biting pic and then the girl basically saying ‘isn’t this too much like fucking?’
jm flirting with mj in chinese in the jmjselle live
jm randomly sending audiz selfie to mj during audiz live
jmj slide
jmj look of love
jmj couple dates in foreign counties
jmj calling each other jagiya
mj’s phone password (kinda controversial at least from what i’ve seen among i-jmjers since it kind of is a violation of her privacy but basically it could be interpreted that her pw is a mashup of her bday and jm’s bday) lowk i think this might be one of the craziest pieces of evidence pointing to them actually being real bc…yea
at the end the girl is basically like oomg if karwin isn’t real there is no love in this world
omg thank you!!! sorry for seeing this so late when you worked so hard! they are definitely half joking and having fun and for me thats what shipping is all about like lets act a little insane!
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hey so idk if u remember but last year I sent my personal jmj timeline and I have changed my opinions on some dates, idk maybe it would be interesting to hear ur input on it since u have ur own jmj timeline too
here is the old timeline I sent btw, I also wanna see anons express their own version of the jmj timeline :D
https://www.tumblr.com/jiminjeonging/765063612332212224/i-have-a-strong-sense-of-intuition-so-this-is-in?source=share
oh thank you sending it i agree with this version more! anons please share your thoughts too!
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Can u share your thoughts regarding the jmjselle live from 2023 in Tokyo. I was watching it and could feel some awkwardness from jmj, mj also looked a little left out bcs audiz kept giggling with eo. If u have already shared your thoughts about it, then can u please share the link for your response 🙏
oh i think anons discussed it before its here. i do agree jmj were a bit awkward but i dont think mj was left out
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