#jiminjeong timeline

[jiminjeonging]

it kills me that we’ll never know what went down with them in 2023. like I want to know all about what they were fighting about and how they made up. they’ve been seemingly so in sync since then. nevertheless i am thankful they got through whatever it was and hope we never go back 😌

well i think the roots of it was from 2022 which is a year they started fooling around in my delusional head and since they couldn't get themselves to talk about it, it led to cracks in their relationship. those cracks led their silly arguments to blow up into something more serious and that caused them to be cold to each other. i dont think they were fighting all the time but it was very on and off during the summer like they would hang out with each other with no problems but something would happen that will remind them to reality of their situation and buum they would become awkward, being around each other would feel suffocating. i think around late august they started to make an effort to be more civil around each other because they couldnt handle this sinking feeling any longer. i think the vibes of this awkward making up phase is apparent in meta behind and that day jimin made the "fall is just around the corner" post with mj too

[jiminjeonging]

I think the winter, karina, giselle instagram live they did in august 2023 is peak jmj angst yearn

So in my personal timeline headcanon (and I think shared by a lot of others) 2023 was a patchy time for them - early on going into a more platonic / no sex era (due to arguments that came from over complicating their friendship, but they still felt romantic + sexual things for each other, which then became more intense the longer the tried to stay away from each other). I think the tour was what made them start hooking up again- the freedom of being away from Korea, the adrenaline from tour, the being together constantly. So at the time of this live, we have a jmj who hookup in secret on tour, pretending to themselves and to each other it’s not romantic, which is then making them unconsciously tetchy and on edge with each other when they’re not hooking up (on stage, in rehearsal- this again is also enhanced by the being together all day everyday with tour rehearsals and the performances themselves).

Now in the live we see

- a kind of off energy the whole way through. Of course they’re still friends and acting like such but also compared to their 2022/earlier lives where they were clingy + affectionate to this? It just makes the whole vibe a bit.. it seems like jm is less comfortable than when she did lives alone or with aeri in this era (see: her hiding her face, her wanting to go off camera occasionally, her needing a break to “get sweets”)

- despite this, jm is clearly staring at mj a lot this live. When she does turn her head from the screen, it’s nearly always at mj even when she’s not talking. And there is a very noticeable point where she is looking at mj through the screen (she smiles to herself when mj pulls a face)

- kind of jealous jm? Whenever aeri and mj are interacting or joking or laughing between them jms face falls completely flat. I wouldn’t say she looks angry or jealous persay but she just stops talking and smiling and stares dead faced - maybe more dare fetched but her completely out the blue calling out that fan that said they wanted to date mj 😭

- maybe fits with the jealousy thing but it needs a point of its own bc it makes me laugh- mj talking about snails and goes “unnie can’t eat snails though”, then jm immediately going “I can ?” and then getting corrected when mj reveals she was talking to giselle instead 😭 she assumed she was in mjs head as much as mjs in hers

- and speaking of! The classic jm mid conversation laughing to herself about a conversation her and mj had and then awkwardly having to explain it

- mj as well just seems not very interactive with jm? When it was conversations of the three of them they’d all talk, and yes it probably was hard for them to interact with giselle in between them- but again going from mj who would lean over people just to hold jms hands to an mj who didn’t even really look at her much? Combined with jm just giving a kind of sad energy

- jm making a comment that she hoped nn scared winter through the hotel walls in the middle of the night. The joke itself was normal but that whole section seemed so odd again. (Theory is jm was practically begging for mj to invite her to stay in her room and using her being scared as an excuse)

Anyway sorry for such a rant im just rewatching it now and going crazy. As the live progresses they do both seem to get more into it and interact a bit more and are giggly more but it makes me think it was tense between the two of them before they started

omg this is actually such a good analysis that made me want to rewatch the live bcs i felt that mj wasnt really interactive with jm back then too! also i agree with the timeline in your head the semi hate-fucks went hard during the tour🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

[jiminjeonging]

what happened with them in 2023..? just in relation to the previous anon..?

i think this is something you might have noticed if you were a stan during that time because its not about what did they do and more about what they didnt do because there were times they didn’t interact at all. it wasnt like ppl on here doomposting everytime the girls hang out with their other friends, during that time you could tell the vibes were off because they didnt interact and they werent having dates in every spot they landed into but rather they choose to hang out with others. compare waterbomb and hongkong kcon for example. during waterbomb there is like one moment and its the members laughing bcs of aeri then jm guides mj into position for the next song while during kcon they were inseparable like how they usually act during a festival/award show etc. i think jm showed more effort to hang out with mj than the opposite like after a day of hanging out separately (i think mj was with managers) jm was eager to see her again

another thing is how mj celebrated jm’s birthday like during this year she didnt post a pic of them but she was still more sincere than this. like the last time i said this someone called me greedy but this nawt the mj i know idc!! like we got the “its love” vid prior to this

overall i wont say they were fighting actively but they werent the jmj we know right now only thing we depended on was them looking at each others direction at a concert but stuff started to change for the better after jms insta post and these:

honestly it was something that lasted few months rather than a year so maybe im being dramatic but.

edit:another example i can give is them during the spicy era radioshow guesting

[jiminjeonging]

Mj on their last tour having a push and pull angsty friends with benefits hate sex relationship to deal with and then performing a ballad about the fear of confessing and getting rejected to thousands of people … she’s stronger than me ong

oh that song is actually crazy bcs its basically saying “i already confessed you, you just need to look at my actions and not my words” which was the biggest problem jm had with mj like she needed something concrete from mj like “i love you” but mj is too shy to do that.. they really gave her a song fit perfectly for them😭😭

also look at how shy they were here!!

[jiminjeonging]

https://www.tumblr.com/jiminjeonging/769503582016995329/i-actually-have-jmj-lore-mostly-wt-that-includes?source=share

anon be for real that jk and mj thing is BULLSHIT he was busy with someone else 👇🏼

https://x.com/sbkkdh/status/1707862956837318818?t=E-5WeC5xyFHLMy3yZvOBsA&s=19

(I wanted to find just the video but this was the best I could find so forget the twitter caption)

okaaay since im getting so many asks about this im gonna try to explain/debunk it like i did in ccs so im using your ask sorry<3

the vid you shared is from late jan-feb 2023 and he also (allegedly) was in jeju with his gf in late 2022. now since he sang a bit of next level in late 2022 and the concert they went to was in march-2023 some ppl think that person was mj which is impossible considering the height diff in that vid and why would mj use extensions in a private setting. some say he went through a break up then started to see mj, thats why aespa/mj was at his listening party but his alleged gf was in his solo concert in october-2023 thats clashes with the timeline too. from what im seeing they seem like acquaintances considering tae recommended better things during that timeline but nothing more.

[jiminjeonging]

https://www.tumblr.com/jiminjeonging/770143475515686912/i-think-the-winter-karina-giselle-instagram-live

nice analysis but in my humble opinion they looked awkward simply because theyre hiding a relationship i genuinely dont think they had any of what yall talking about there was no fights no tension no "hate-fucks"(lmao) nothing mj says sth and jm listens and follows her like a golden retriever and if you ever saw acting weird you’d notice theyre (especially mj) always glancing at the camera or looking for it theyre that meme my gf tells me to shut up and i do

noo dont take jmj hate fucking on tour away from me😔😔 on a serious note though i need to rewatch that live and im just believing whatever you guys tell me but i do remember mj being not that interactive with jm but there was also a moment like her letting jm pinch her cheeks but not letting aeri so idkkk (i used so many 'but's here omg)