#jason may be liminal in this idk
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wonderlandsakura · 1 year ago
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Ok but Jason is so for the whole Wayne Foster Project.
Like this is everything he hoped he could give back to society after getting adopted by B?
It's probably the whole reason he comes back to the family and is the thing that heals his and Bruce's relationship.
He might also help interview potential foster families, introduce potential ones that are crime alley and poor but love kids despite not being able to have any, or pointing out which homes need to have custody removed cause he's seen their kids suffering on the streets.
He probably sends his street kids there, ensuring that siblings and families both found and biological can stay together.
All the kids with shit parents but can't/shouldn't stay on the street, he sends there.
Not every child, cause children, especially these children, deserve the freedom of choice, and sometimes they want to stay on the street where they can protect and provide for family, cause it's still family, even if they're broken and have hurt them, he knows that (he's lived that)
It's better that he doesn't betray their trust and that they come to him when they're in trouble, than that he betrays it and they break out of the foster homes and lose then to the streets.
He understands that, even if the rest of his family can't.
He understands provided and protecting family even though they don't deserve it, even though they've hurt him.
He did it for his mom, he did it for both of them.
It's the reason why he died.
It's the reason why he still loves his siblings, still loves Bruce, even though they've hurt each other.
That is to say, he understands Danny.
He can guess what he's doing.
He might not know the full extent of it, but he can guess that he's probably trying to protect his parents.
He's not going to support that, as they've clearly hurt him in ways no parent should, no person should, and he hates that, he knows what it feels like, even if what happened to him was not as invasive and long lasting as what might have happened to Danny, and it makes him want to rip their throats out and crush every bone in their body, cause they don't deserve Danny's love...
But he understands what it's like, and he respects it.
He has to, or he could push Danny away before he can teach him that they are no longer family, that even if they were, it is not enough to forgive them, it is not enough to protect them.
They don't deserve that.
Danny doesn't deserve to have to hurt himself because of them.
He can love them still, (heavens know he still loves them) but that doesn't mean he should protect them.
He can forgive them, (heavens know he's forgiven them) but that doesn't mean he should forget what they did and let them hurt him again.
He can consider them family, but do they truly consider him the same? Do they care for him as they should? They say he's their son, but do they act like it?
What defines protection?
What defines family?
What makes family worthy protection?
If family has hurt family, what can you protect?
What will you protect?
It will take time, Jason knows.
But he can wait forever for his little brother to give him the go ahead to rip his parents to shreds.
He's Family after all.
Heavens know he would die for Family.
Dp x Dc AU: Bruce has a 'if you can't beat them, join them' mentality about the tabloids claiming he adopts too many kids- Developing foster homes that are paid for through the Wayne inheritance, personally vetted by the Bats, they're the leaders in the space for child health outcomes and family placement. Insert Danny.
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Bruce has too much wealth, too many rumors and not enough reach into the abhorrent foster homes around Gotham to improve them. Tim ends up being the one to suggest it- He's the one who buys up their real estate for their safe houses after all- and Bruce is more than ready to pull the metaphorical trigger to get new clean welcoming spaces, Bat-background checked fosters and a new era of adoption in Gotham underway.
He's lobbied the state and the federal government for reforms of course, but this is a project he can micromanage. He spends time with every kid that comes through, talks with all the families that want to adopt and makes sure that these miniature homes are provided only the very best. Alfred personally hires all the staff, and with Barbara more than happy to help relocate the unhoused children she spots while they patrol, the project is a glowing success.
Occasionally, spots in their houses fill up, and those are the weeks were Cass takes on the Cowl of Batman- Bruce Wayne will personally invite a child in need to his home. He always has one of his kids present (they rotate on a pre-determined schedule) and he does his best to try and get them to understand that they deserve the world, have all the potential that anyone else has and can achieve a bright future. That he will personally aid them in their ambitions.
PR goes crazy for it of course, but Bruce and all of his children know its genuine. Almost too genuine, because a betting pool 'WILL THEY BE ADOPTED' regularly circulates between the siblings and the entire JL when someone spends time at the manor. And not just the black-haired, Blue-eyed kids get picked as favored outcomes- but obviously the running joke gets passed around.
It's a Thursday night when Bruce gets the call that the houses have once again filled up, and that there is a child in need of a home. The social worker (he knows her as Marsha and he has flowers planned to be sent on her birthday next week, like he does for all of his employees) (Say micromanaged one more time) explains that the kid is a bit cagey but has opened up with some humor. She explains that he has a few strange... mannerisms. She's not sure what to make of him, a non-gothamite for sure but something is, well, distinctly 'not from around here' about his energy.
Danny arrives at the house, meets Duke and Alfred, and by the time Bruce meets him at the dinner table it seems as though Marsha had it all wrong. This kid was laughing, he was teasing, he was totally playing along like he'd gone through nothing. Bruce is glad he's in high spirits but its just so... so different from all the other children he's taken in.
Bruce re-focuses on the conversation when Duke mentions something flashing, and its the first time that Danny goes quiet. Entirely still.
"...you noticed that?" Danny quietly asks, a bit of disbelief in his tone.
"You don't have a flashlight on or something do you? It was super bright whatever it is that you had in your hand a second ago?" Duke tries to sound chill but he's looking very much not chill. Bruce saw nothing, and that puts him further on edge.
"Look... I uh, I've been though... I've been through a lot lately. And the last lab I was in kind of, messed with me. I'm normally much better at dealing with it all, I promise." Danny sounds nervous, and the room seems to chill.
"Ah shoot, sorry." Danny notices something and frantically apologizes.
"Sorry for what Danny? You've done nothing wrong but I am worried about you- You said you were in a lab?" Bruce is desperately trying to calm him down while not slipping into Batman interrogation mode.
"Uh, yeah, like a lot of labs. It should get warmer in a second, its just cause I startled, I promise."
"You're a meta." Duke speaks softly and with hope in his voice- Danny is looking between them with wide eyes filled with fear.
"I mean I don't technically have the gene-"
"Danny, have you told any of your case workers where you were? Do any authorities know what you've been through?" Bruce needs to know, desperately, that who ever gave this young boy super powers is brought to justice. Danny goes quiet.
"I'm really sorry." He says softly, but he doesn't leave them.
Duke and Bruce try to ask a few more questions but the silence that meets them declares the conversation over, even with Duke admitting he himself is a meta. Danny didn't even look up from his plate. They watch a movie after dinner, and Danny seems to get back to the smile-y happy guy he had been before dinner.
Each of the bat-fam have their own interactions with Danny- And even if they're getting along amazingly, Danny won't open up. He doesn't open up to his provided therapist. Doesn't talk to Alfred. No one knows what's up.
So when Marsha calls Bruce back explaining they now have a spot for Danny and he can move out of the Manor... Bruce replies that he'd like to get started on Adoption paperwork, so long as Danny is fine with it.
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Turns out, Danny is fine with it. he's both the newest Wayne and their newest case. (And godamnit, his new family is going to avenge him. If only he'd let them try.)
Danny figures out that Duke= Signal early on because of that dinner, and if he's going to keep his parents out of jail, he needs to be as close to the investigation as possible. He knows that he shouldn't protect the Fentons, but he feels the upset in his core at the thought of letting them befall any harm. He has to protect them. Has to protect Jazz and her hiding spot as a mole within their lab. Has to.
Even if it meant lying to his new family who loves him, and who he loves in equal return. Even if it means lying to The Bats.
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Tabloids go crazy about the black-haired blue-eyed thing of course, but no poll was ever taken by the batfam or the JL who know the whole story.
#Danny has his powers destabilized by the various lab experiments but he's slowly getting control back#Duke notices Danny phasing his hands through the table/silverware by accident- it just looks like slight of hand tho#Danny figures out the bats and the best he can do is get adopted#friends close and enemies (lol not really) closer#please i beg of you- write the other siblings interactions#someone tell me why I left Jazz to sabotage their parents and what to do with her next#jazz looking at danny who now has every possible resource to save them and not using it like- my guy#danny's core working against him like stockholm syndrome basically#like his protected them for this long so now he feels compulsion#jason feels#he's already sibling-adopted danny#he's just waiting for him to realize that he's sibling-adopted him back#jason may be liminal in this idk#either way he adores family#it's the source of his every problem#but damn if he's going to change it#jason really wants to beat up the fenton parents but he respects danny too much to do it without his permission#he knows that danny is protecting his parents#but he's not going to tell anyone until he's ready unless keeping quiet would put danny in danger#tim also knows#he had neglectful parents and had to play the game at galas and school all the time :/#but he also knows what it's like#he's just going to go into tucker's dms and ask for the tea instead#they share a common purpose after all#Jason and Tim aren't snitches#jason loves his dad but he knows how invasive he can accidentally be#jason is ride or die for his family#he just keeps it hidden under his bad boy persona#dp x dc#dc x dp
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stealingyourbones · 2 years ago
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*A pitbull trots up to you and lays his head on your counter. As you pet his head he huffs and purple smoke comes from his breath. It swirls into fairy with flaming purple hair and wings to match. *
Okay, so you know how it's fanon that being exposed to enough ectoplasm can make someone liminal, right?
And in my head canon being liminal means you have a small ghost core, which initials have a small obsession.
IE Jazz-Psychiatry, Sam-Goth/Vegan, Tucker-Technology and basically all of Amity Park.
And basically all of the bats dance with death on a semi-regular basis.
So they all have been exposed to ectoplasm enough to have their own cores.
But what are their obsessions I hear you ask?
Well, let me tell you!!
Batman/Bruce Wayne- Justice
This one is pretty obvious. It's the whole reason he put on the mask. But it's also the reason he doesn't kill or use guns. When Jason died Bruce Couldn't kill Joker. I went against his obsession.
Nightwing/Dick Grayson- Fun
This one is a bit more mellow compared to the rest of the bats, but I figured it suited him the best because he's the oldest and basically the Jack Frost of the group.
Red Hood/Jason Todd- Home
Now you may be thinking "why not revenge or sticking it to the bat?" Well dear friend, let me tell you!! Jason's obsession has been corrupted by the pit. Argo, rage. I'll expound on this more if you want, but I figured the rest is context clues.
Red Robin/Tim Drake- Robin
Tim is obsession is being the perfect robin. Even if he takes up another mantle. He is the Jack of all trades and basically Bruce's platonic soulmate. But also idk, I feel like he's could have a better one.
Robin/Damian Wayne- Protection
Damian's obsession is similar to Danny's in a way, but instead of him protecting a place he protects the weak. That is why he likes being Robin and also why he collects animals like pokemon.
*a small commotion is heard outside*
I know there is more birds I could list but I better hit the road. Here's a bag of teeth for your troubles!!
*the pitbull jumps, grabs the fairy in his mouth, and runs out the door. A legion of tooth fairies are seen chasing after him.*
SO LONG SUCKERS!!!!!
aaaa what a good dog I'm love <3333 oh man I love all of these takes sm!
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currentfandomkick · 1 year ago
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Amity legally uses ‘Sovereign State of Not Today Satan’ as their official address. And keep getting metas and various magic users (think the ‘i just want to live on a commune’ type everyday magic users in DC) who end up going.
Gotham going full monarchy and being recognized by Danny as a Sovereign Principality results in so many rulers in the Infinite Realms visiting to establish diplomatic relations with the ‘comparatively weak’ liminal pop on the basis of some obsessions requiring the mortal plane… and undergrowth being a God related to Swampthing is personal hc i can see being leveraged to ensure Gotham’s meta pop has a Noble Line of its own, or makes Swampthing a diplomat. Idk and idc but Brucie Wayne interacting with Swampthing at a gala where Poison Ivy is chatting with Sam about plant science and magic makes me happy. Sam swaps between comparing areas and growing plant sentience in Amity to ‘how to destroy a building with plants’ vs ‘how to reinforce a building with vines’ when she thinks Bruce and his brood aren’t watching.
Mostly incase the US screws up enough that it comes to war. Sam wants to be PreparedTM
Also isnt tucker technically a monarch as a reincarnation of a pharaoh? Him hanging out in atlantis and discussing technomancy and comparing magics and tech while Danny bugs Aquaman about basic diplomacy things that a king should be aware of on earth in the modern age. Why? Danny is asking for tucker!
Aquaman doesnt believe that, but also noted that Danny is given a lot of berth by the diplomatic group and deferred to, but also treated more like the ghosts treat one another than they do the humans. He’s fairly certain Danny won a minor kingship but lets it run itself. He is not aware Danny is functionally the emperor of the dead.
Paulina is absolutely helping Mayor Masters with the anti-usa thing on social media and works with Sam, to both’s annoyance… until they get to bash a policy or horrid take they find online. Yes this is how the two get along, no they are not friends! That’s absurd! Yes Sam did grab her coffee this morning and she’s getting a stupid vegan shake for Sam, what of it?
Danny enjoys helping Jason with the halfa nonsense later but doesnt admit to being a halfa. He says he helps his “cousin” with it. A cousin who when Jason meets her, is a carbon copy of Danny but younger and Girl.
Ellie is thrilled about the new halfa, and asks if he’s unstable too? No? Oh, that’s cool… hey what’s your big thing besides being a protector? Hers is travel! She stayed out of the US until they broke away from the USA for anti-ecto act reasons. Her dad is technically vlad. Technically….
Jason is confused, but rolls with it until Ellie later goes ‘btw can you tell robin his clones are ghosts in the rehab my cousin Jazz runs? One of them really loves baking and another is herding blob ghosts now. Most of them are ThrivingTM as ghosts and are arguing about names and ranks.’
Jason may be a bit mentally broke after that and miss the ‘since i’m the clone sucess story but my original didnt kill me, he coadopted me’ bit
Bruce is going to be so confused when he finds out his sons dead clones are ghosts and mostly took up mundane obsessions and refuse to chose an Undead Country, often stating ‘i only answer to the Ghost King and his kin’ while leaving random presents for them in Wayne Manor as ‘sorry i tried to kill you, i am doing well dead Dont Enter the Infinite Please’ bribes.
Add on for how other residents handle this. Not sure where Wes falls or Valerie—i see her helping with the borders but idk if she’d do that or be more liminal due to the suit and be working on developing her haunt in Elmerton who absolutely joined in the ‘fuck the US’ state of Not Today Satan.
Any idea on where everyone’s vigilante ID in gotham would fall? As Knights are nobility, but would Batman be the only one knighted or would there be multiple, and would Lady Gotham be the technical Queen who lets bruce “prince of gotham” handle most things as she deals with the ecto structure and keeping her liminals safe.
Would gotham and amity join the olympics, or be excluded on an anti-meta policy or other BS?
*slams the door open, eyes manic* Sovereign State!
A Sovereign State: "International law defines sovereign states as having a permanent population, defined territory, a government not under another, and the capacity to interact with other sovereign states."
The USA already HAS several that exsist within its boarders? And there was that Gay Island of Australia (no really, look it up.) There is a LONG history of humanity going "well fuck you too then, I'm leaving. But also I refuse to leave. I am METAPHORICALLY leaving." *leaves your country and makes their own*
And??
Where's the FUCK were you? Mr. President? During that INVASION by Pariah Dark??
No, really. Social contracts, my dude. That is WHY you have AN ARMY. For INVADING FORCES.
You ALSO have declared us, your citizens, non-sentient and stripped of us our Constitutional Rights WITHOUT hearings, studies, or any due processes. Not to mention just desecrating the dead like it's NOT a well known religious and moral taboo. AND attacking out dead family members! The list goes on!
Why do we pay you taxes, if YOU are the active threat to us AND you offer us no social services?? You've all but cut Amity off anyway!
.......*Takes our ball and goes home* FUCK IT.
They are literally Limnals. It's a TOWN OF METAS. Can you honestly tell me that they WOULDN'T look at the Ecto-Acts and just think: "Yeeeeeah, how about No. Hard Pass."
You can have your INCREDIBLY stupid and offensive law. In OUR country, that's illegal. "We can't do that?" Yes. We can. We informed you in a Formal Document, which you received, you had the opportunity to STOP us, you did or could not, AND we got Regonized by another government.
It's a Ghost Goverment. We, the city state of Amity, were recognized by like... going on 23 at this point. We have a list. All Ghost Goverments, too. Sucks for you that you don't recognize those, they've decided not to recognize YOURS back until you do.
Politics, baby~
Aaaw D:> Does the Upset Baby wanna call, Superman? Boo Hoo. Somebody's forgetting the Justice League serves EARTH, not AMERICA. Suck on a lemon and die mad about it. Better not come back as a Ghost though! Your Goverment will declare you a lab specimen!
Now if you'll excuse us, WE have interplanetary trade routes. Because WE can use alien tech from our Ghost Buddies. And the Fenton Anti-Creep Barrier means you can't do SHIT. So *large crowd of teenagers making rude noises at frustrated government officials*
*Justice Leauge taking picture in the background* You're doing great sweeties! Aquaman is? So proud of the younger generation? They really are the future, you guys. Can he come in?
Oh of COURSE, your Majesty! *somehow ONLY Aquaman is able to get past the barrier, much to the impotent fury of the GIW and various officials*
@hdgnj @stealingyourbones
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ailithnight · 1 year ago
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Ok, so, these were my tags in my original addition.
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They are suddenly relevant with the addition of Danny arguing with, insulting, and messing with the others. Because if Tim is Liminal enough to pick up on the Ghost Speak vibes, the others must be as well. In fact, they may understand clearer since they've all been temporarily dead.
I can't decide which I like better, Damian picking up on the Ghost Speak most clearly since he was raised around a Pit, or Jason since he seems to have been permanently altered by the Pit what with his unfading Pit Rage. Maybe they could both be equal? IDK.
Point! Point is, Danny shadow sending fuck you vibes in Damian's direction and Damian just bristling with anger over it but not being able to say anything without himself sounding like Drake on day 4 without sleep.
Short DPXDC Prompts #809
Danny is extremely weak and injured and he really hates overshadowing people. He does the next best thing: takes over the shadow of a person. Unknowingly, Danny just possessed the shadow of Red Robin.
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