#its that its specifically personas not shadows thats really weird
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By Nyx Core, you can't summon a Persona.
In game, the option isn't available, and Great Seal is cast without one.
In the movies, Messiah dissolves when Makoto gets close.
In the Weird Masquerade, Shiomi attempts to summon their Persona, and fails.
#p3#spoilers#the mangas too close to the game so doesnt say anything#strange#i wonder how it works since erebus can obviously get close to her and hero doesnt get apathy syndrome#ishida mentioned in the winter of rebirth blu ray that he cant use a persona in the fight because it requires being his true self#but thats more of a symbolic reason than lore#hmmm....#maybe since its the depths of the cu that means that theres no real difference between persona and user?#but it has to be something about nyx since sees and elizabeth use them to fight erebus so the great seal would have to block it#its that its specifically personas not shadows thats really weird
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âit kinda makes me sad when artists giving out tutorials on character...â
oh could you talk more about this? :o
ABSOLUTELY thank u for enabling me to go off about designs i love this shit this may get a bit long so its going under a readmore (sorry if ur on mobile i hope it works)
gonna start this off with im no expert Nor have i taken any sort of official art class this is me just analyzing characters from what i found that makes them memorable to ppl (most of these examples are going to be from games sorry i got them on my mind)
ok so basically making a memorable revolves around personality and appearance now theres different ways to go about showing these things and i think from consuming media you like will help narrow down how you wanna go about it, basically thinking about your character inside and out!
SO shapes and hyperstylization is a good way to get a fun appearance across in a cartoon esp media and is often what a lot of artists stress on an example of using shapes and a good silhouette to make a memorable character is sonic!(specifically comic sonic)
(had to google idw sonic for a non...u know image)
but not only do they use lots of triangles for this hedgehog they also made him blue! youâd be more likely to remember a blue headgehog over a realistically colored one!(also almost all of the sonic characters have a combination of fun shape + unusual color to help you remember them! the designs werent afraid to use color to make a bold statement)(heâs also segas mascot so of course they put a lot of work in his design)
now sonics appearance is not the only reason why people like him or remember him so much heâs also got personality! heâs cocky, fast, always getting into trouble, âyouâre too slow!â, accompanied by shitty butt rock and a cool guy persona ie heâs got personality! and they werenât afraid to give him some weird interests(see the butt rock) and heâs not perfect( see arrogance) if youve ever played a sonic game you have almost always remembered the crush 40 theme that went with it
all in all to go with his unusual appearance heâs got some unusual traits! it helps make him believable! admittedly heâs not the most embarrassing of the sonic crew (see knuckles or shadow) but heâs definitely rounded and not boring from an objective standpoint(you can not like sonic or his games i dont care)
(another example of something that requires good shapes is pokemon altho they arent really like very depthy since there are 600+ and some only have like a pokedex entry worth of info but still they have good and memorable designs)
NOW something that doesnt have the most âgood shapesâ design off the top of my head is link
now in the most recent zelda game his most memoriable physical attribute is that heâs on the androgynous side w his longer hair and smaller build but in his older designs he looked something like this
(art for a loz:link to the past)
not really that much of a striking silhouette, but what do we look at and kinda leaves an impression on us? his hair and hat! its very silly to see someone in such a big green hat with that big of bangs/mullet, the hat at least became so ridiculous of a look that in botw nintendo didnt include his hat in links main outfit bc it was too hard to make look good, its silly! thats good! its fine to have a normal human looking characters because sometimes stories are about humans, but if you want us to remember them include something that will strike us as strange for them
also probably a good thing to note is the noises link makes when he swings his sword, jumps, pushes something, ie any action they have always been something that has stuck with me
(another example similar to this is in mgs solid snake in mgs is this cool super spy but is rocking a full on mullet which is considered a joke hairstyle. this leaves an impression on us. a spy with a mullet! how ridiculous! another example is raiden who was specifically made bc a woman wrote that she didnt want to play as an âold manâ so the protagonist of the super spy game is a longer haired pretty boy (with a huge ass))
now ive explained a little on a character with good shapes and personality and a character with a more âboringâ shape design that makes up for it with almost quirky design choices but i feel like theres another series thats what originally got me thinking about how even a memorable silhouette doesnt need hyperstylization
ace attorney! (which is out on switch now if u havent played it i would def recommend it)
if you dont know the protagonist is the guy in the blue suit(phoenix), which well he looks like just a guy...with ridiculously spikey hair enough so that in his silhouette you can recognize him but also his posture (the pointing) makes for a sticking recognizable image bc if youâve played the games you can practically hear objection just from looking at phoenixâs silhouette
which is another thing id like to talk about! not only are a good shape a way to have a good silhouette but posture is also important! how the character holds themselves can say alot about them just from a glance! such as meekness, arrogance, confidence, sadness, anger, happiness its a very important too especially when you arent relying on stylization
now onto the characters of ace attorney ive gone over phoenix's design a bit but theres a few others id like to look at with some Weird style choices that make us remember them(just going to glance over them since this post is so long)
now, this woman, franziska von karma, she dresses kind of strange for a prosecutor but her outfit is not too out there and her silhouette is not striking
but you see that whip? remember how i said she was a prosecutor? yeah she will strike people in court for getting off topic and will even hit phoenix when he starts breaking down her witnesses testimonies, which what literally strikes up about her
another prosecutor, godot, now his hair could provide a somewhat memorable shape but what we first notice is the strange mask on his face which is weird, but not the Same weird as franziska bringing a whip to court thus having both of these prosecutors being Weirdly memorable for different things (another note is his liking of coffee that he does not give up even in court ha ha)
now onto the other protag for the aa games
apollo! who also has weirdly spikey hair, but even if you put a silhouette of him next to phoenix you could tell there some was a difference between the two! its showing a pattern with the protags while also keeping them distinct enough to be able to tell who is who! although you cant say the pointy haired guy from ace attorney and not get just One answer unlike saying the prosecutor who has a whip but still they are distinct to people who have little experience with the series
sorry i dont have any sort of conclusion on this this was just sort of me rambling on about character design, but my main point is if you are discouraged bc all your characters dont have wildly different silhouettes thats ok! there are other ways to establish a good memorable character! dont be afraid to make them a little weird! give your character pink hair in a medieval setting, have them be ridiculously in love with tigers they have a striped shirt and pants, let them love childrens tv shows and have them never miss an episode, give them wacky hair or an extreme love of gum, show us some personality!! but dont forget about how they act and their values and dont forget that posture can go a long way for establishing a first impression
there are also many other methods to making a good character! like colors and dress!
silly is the way to go! have fun with it!!
there isnt just one way to make a good character!! theres plenty of more series that have good character design that i didnt mention pay attention to why you like the characters you like! also watch this video bc its really good
#atissi#im sorry this is so long and incoherent#im sure this is hard to parse so im realyl sorry if i end up confusing ppl
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HEY HERES some longass fucking shit!!!! about my settings for ocs for a p5 continuation/sequel/etc!!!!!!!!! just kind of. expanding on stuff i guess lol!!! the first one is the longest and the one im most interested in expanding on ideas for ocs on but anyway :Y
IDEA ONE:
'palaces': garden, zoo, restaurant, temple, courthouse, funhouse, bunker, garden, graveyard, safari, library, museum(not art gallery)
an emphasis not so much based on heists or stealing or treasure. instead the intention is to destroy the heart of it to reveal what the place "actually is". the whole intention becomes revelling in the large-scale destruction of different chunks of the bases, before eventually defeating the person at the heart of it.
not knowing the exact individual whose construct it is, has to infiltrate and work way into the place in order to follow clues - more like a detective than anything else.
characters access nav not through going to a specific location but via "dreams" - peeks into the human unconsciousness, cant really control when they go into or come out of constructs, are just kind of dropped in whichever location is selected in a list on the app before they sleep. therefore, players are lead into dungeons without fully knowing what theyre doing - theyre kind of placed into more of a mystery detective thing, trying to figure out why theyve been placed in each area, kind of what they have to do in order to escape cause like otherwise theyre placed in the area literally every night and cant do much about it lol. basically as long as theyre contributing (according to some unspoken rules) theyre fine in terms of sleep, but if they refuse to cooperate theyre basically sleepless, which really really impacts some of them until they end up basically having to act.
each area basically introduces a new playable character via waking a construct version of them in someone elses palace. like literally waking them up. Â
it takes like the first full dungeon for them to register that it isnt just a weird same dream that theyre having and that like. the real person whose cognitive world they broke is affected, and in the wake of the whole "shadow thieves of hearts" thing its kind of terrifying because theyre like "oh god we destroyed that place what if weve killed someone" but it seems to have a different effect on individuals than previous, but its still. really weird.
eventually they kind of register that the worlds and people presented are getting bigger and scarier for them to have to deal with, and that its kind of like. training them??? especially since the targets theyre being given are getting more grey morally, and more just given to them because the task is just more difficult rather than more important.
anyway on their journey thats eventually mementos that they end up in when theres really no big mission for them to do, and they like explore it n shit. it feels totally different from the other worlds, cause its kind of this... weird mishmash? and as the plot continues theyre basically. kind of. its more or less revealed that this mementos isnt the general consciousness as the general consciousness of a select group of individuals - the people who basically set them up in this situation. individuals who used the research on the cognizant world to basically force the protagonists to do their dirty work - starting them with easy missions against people that they would agree with fighting against, and slowly working more into individuals that they wanted to get rid of, tying up loose ends, etc. basically training up a little army to get rid of people for them. this group thats controlling them isnt sending them into their mementos though, that would be a Higher Power
the uh. the group in this has a mascot thats a cute little cartoony puppy!!! that claims that theyre a wolf and cant remember how they got there etc etc. anyway basically it was made as a weird rude parody of morgana, and theyre pretty much a sleeper agent that kind of. gains consciousness as the team applies traits to it pretty much??? either way puppy is pretty much just the shadow council things way of calling the protagonists their dogs lol. something to sic on people they dont like.
IDEA TWO:
the palaces are all... literally different kinds of palaces: from different ages and aesthetics, but all definitely castles and mansions. includes roman palace, victorian mansion, funhouse/theme park castle, gothic mansion, classic medieval castle, etc
more of a kidnapping thing. have to find the master of the house/king/baron/etc and extracate them from the construct - whether a rescue or kidnapping depends on the particular target. this one features a pair of antagonists who only want to use the palaces' treasures for monetary gain - or at least it seems so at the start?? but its actually for a person theyre working for with the intention of studying the cognizant world in order to access the public conscience for what is essentially mass demoralization leading to global shutdown
this one in particular probably features the protags from p5 in a weird way, like. theyre all kind of younger adults in the city, doing stuff, and the new protags kind of interact with them and subtly try to figure stuff out about this whole world and everything about it from them.
IDEA THREE
more of an emphasis on the internet and incredible popularity therein - palaces are all based on internet sensations, big personalities who are secretly doing unsavory things. accessed through whatever website/social media whatever that they use the most.
PALACES in this world are based on VIDEO GAME TYPES. rpg, fps, puzzle games, etc etc etc. still in the kind of stealth, heist format of the actual. u kno. persona 5. but the aesthetics and enemy styles, dungeon setups, etc, npcs/cognitive humans etc are all based on the respective video game type. IMPORTANT: theres a rogue person wandering into peoples cognitive worlds who considers it all genuinely a game, has fun "competing" with the players team to get to the "end boss" first. unfortunately his aim is always outright to kill the boss lol. playable characters' outfits in the palaces change to fit the video game, but follow a general theme for each character.
the way that palaces are accessed more or less through the internet opens up possibilities about the new protags meeting through exclusively the palaces, not knowing each other in real life, etc.
every world contains a specific npc that sort of guides them around n stuff. its literally just akechi. like thats just him. still young. hes just there, in a shitty prince outfit or equivalent, and my excuse is that 1. he die in a really weird way in a really weird place and 2. as an incredibly public figure that was so prevalent in the publics eyes their perception of him kind of kept him floatin around in the sea of human etc etc etc. it might not be FULLY him but hes definitely. there. thats definitely just him standing there, telling them about game stuff. weird af.
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aw dude i missed the fire emble direct
wheres the links? gimme gimme
oh for fucks sake, is this WHOLE direct narrated by fucking sasuke.
see, why Gaiden specifically. was gaiden the start of one of the series? is it standalone? i dont know anything about gaiden like at all. ok, thats a lie, i do recognize the names Duma and Mila from that one time i hella dag through the wiki.
is sasuke actually narrating the whole direct because im suffering. yuri lowenthals voice is distinctive. itd be like if bryce papenbrook appeared outta nowhere and started narrating something, id know.Â
... buddy, its a soft t, not a hard t, the other narrator already said that. we thinking this a language gap? valen-shia, not valen-T-a. or something. that sounds weird. i dont like it with a pronounced t, i prefer smoothed.
also those cutscenes by that other studio? they look so good. are they the same people who did the cutscenes in the other games? if so, theyve improved drastically? i mean, im not animator, but it looks less like âheres our in game models but bigger and smoother, here they goâ and more âwe might have used models as a base but we can do foreshortening and stuff that models cantâ. idk. the lil bit of cutscene just looks way more... animated-y than the ones in fates. gets me hype. i love it.
god i hope this is good. it looks so good. i wasnt even gonna watch the direct until i saw âfire emblem gaiden for 3dsâ and now im in. i want it. gimme gimme. it looks so good. ill wait until after release though. not because im broke but because i like reserving judgement, lmao.
i want that Celica amiibo. holy shit. look at her?? shes gorgeous. that amiibo looks stunning.
also why specifically yuri lowenthal. like.... what. he did a corrin voice, ricken, marth and kiragi. three of those are technically optonal voices (because i know i never ended up getting kiragi, and i dont play male corrin, and marth is amiibo exclusive) so like. what. you just had him lying around and went âhey dude can you do this?â and there he goes.
oh DAMMIT theyre taking the series to the switch in future. fuck. im boned. im confined to three games, one of which i cant actually bring myself to play again because that three route shit was exhausting. darn. D: i mean, if i could find copies of the ds fire emblems (er... one of the marth ones, right? p sure theres a marth ds fire emblem) i might be cool but god knows its a bit late for that. aw.
fe:w is n3ds exclusive? oh. what a shame. i was so... looking forward... nah. nah dude. i mean, cool, it is coming to n3ds at all, thats neat! but. eh..... ehhhhhhhhhhh.
oh who is that beautiful but weird lookingboy??? whats with the hair, bro. it looks cool, but, what. golden tips? oh SHE is cute, i like her armour, actually god yea sheâs real cute, i like her. hes a bad guy but he has nice style and i appreciate it. is that Robin with a fucking gun? is that a gun??? thats a gun. its a portal gun? its a portal gun! its a fucking gun that shoots portals to other worlds. what the fuck am i looking at. also, yea, its probably not actually robin, but i mean, come on, i feel like this look is deliberately supposed to echo that hood shit.
oh who is sheeee. who is she too??? she looks neat! and she has red eyes, ya shes hundo evil.
the what kingdom. the. em.. emblin??? is this. its a pun on emblem, isnt it. oh dearie me. and the... asprin??? did i hear asprin? ok, emblian, alright, still an emblem thing. im still only hearing asprin, though. askuring??? its just asprin. Asker?? that is not what you just fucking said. that is hundo not what he said before. what... askerin???? dude. i need subtitles for ya weird new words
ok, the girl is Sharena, the boy is Alfonse... alright.
wait. lonâqu is pronounced... lon ku??? fuck. shiiiittttt. ive always said lon Q. bugger me. why does he even want lonqu so bad. yuri lowenthal didnt even voice lonqu. what, we didnt wanna summon ricken? i like ricken.
oh OF COURSE the default version of robin is male robin. rip.
anyway why is his voice familiar even though like... i havent watched naruto since i was 8. ?? oh, was he in persona? thats it, isnt it.... yea, it probably is, god dammit yosuke.
Validar???? Validar?? Niles??? what. whats with the selection. that is a really bizarre selection of peeps.
also, alright, Askr and the Askran Kingdom.... right... ok, sure. at least i got emblian right. ok, so the selection is actually basically all characters in fire emblem, they just. name dropped a few. randomly. righto. holy shit this site blows. like, it doesnt WORK. if i click random hero, i then cant random again, i cant go next hero, i have to go back to the main meno and then reselect. and if i go to select by game title, it wont atually let me scroll through the games and im forced to pick from shadow dragon, which is cool but i havent fucking PLAYED shadow dragon. what the fuck.
am i alone???? is this site borked??? send help
#fire emblem stuff#i harp on a lot more than i oughta about the fact that yuri lowenthal was doing the voic over. i have weird priorities#also the fe:heroes site is like straight broken im very confused
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40 Little Things That Are Weirdly Attractive
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40 Little Things That Are Weirdly Attractive
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1. Laugh lines
âI am instantly drawn to someone who has deep laugh lines, I feel like it makes their face look friendly and inviting. Extra attractive if there are dimples involved.â â hermionesque
2. Girls in winter clothing
âI have no idea why, but few things turn me on more than a girl in a cute jacket and boots because she actually needs them. It seems counter intuitive, but it just does something for me. Iâd rather see a girl in some cute winter clothes than in a bikini at the beach. Iâm a weird one.â â Slowjams
3. Boys driving
âWhen a guy backs his car up. Specifically, when he kinda turns to see out the rear window and puts one hand on the passenger seat with the other on the wheel. Any time any guy I have ever dated does this â oof. Gets me going. Also maneuvering into a tricky parking spot. Idk.â â findlesthehuman
3. Necks
âThe back of a girls neck when her hairs up. Thereâs something very elegant, feminine and sophisticated about it.â â yhvhom
4. Red cheeks
âRosey cheeks after exercise, activity, or embarrassment.â â whitegurli
5. Hair ties
âWhen girls have a hair tie around their wrist.â â GreenRanger90
6. Imperfect noses
âGirls with wonky noses. Well, maybe not wonky, but like a little pointed downward or atypical in some way. It gives them character.â â SquidLoaf
7. Full eyebrows
âI find myself attracted to men with very defined, full eyebrows. In general, just angular features but eyebrows just stick out to me.â â ApprehensiveBicycle
8. Glasses
âGlasses. Iâm embarrassingly attracted to women wearing glasses.â â PhreedomPhighter
9. Goofy smiles
âGoofy smiles. I appreciate a nice smile with straight teeth, but when a guy has a goofy smile (even if its caused by some unstraight teeth) its just infectious and my heart melts a little.â â breentee
10. Shyness
âWallflowers, especially if theyâre somewhat androgynous looking. Like a boyish girl whoâs shy at some social gathering.
Not even weirdly attractive. Itâs like I have a radar that picks them up.
Good God, they are loads of fun.â â AngusVanhookHinson
11. Baseball caps
âFemales wearing forward baseball caps.â â Ydoc71
12. Green eyes
âAnyone who tends to bunch up their eyebrows a lot, and green eyes.â â Kimba_Rae_11
13. Buttoning shirts
âButtoning up shirts, or unbuttoning them.â â trisiray
14. Freckles
âA light dusting of freckles around the nose. Gets me every time.â â roseofhammerfell
15. Thick thighs
âThick thighs on men. Itâs not a requirement for me but if you have some tree trunks, I wanna climb em. Especially in some tight fitting jeans. Mama like.â â lilmorphinannie
16. Shorts
âI donât know why, but Iâve recently seen my boyfriend in shorts and just thought âdamn, thatâs sexy.â Not even that his ass looked great in it (it did. And he has a cute ass.) But also the legs in the shorts and⊠idkâ â Germanpunkynerd
17. Collarbones
âCollarbones on women.â â AlwaysMatchfit15
18. Deodorant
âDeodorant smell on a guy. If my boyfriend ever changes deodorant brands, Iâm not going to be happy.â â yestheyaremountains
19. Hoodies
âWomen in hoodies idk why but it looks so good if they can pull it off.â â VictoryWithIce
20. Veiny hands
âMenâs hands; veiny, wide knuckled, strong-looking. I donât know how else to describe them, but dear god. Gets my juices flowing.â â ohhhjamie
21. Under eye bags
âGirls with bags under her eyes.â â trip6kitty
22. Scratchy voices
âWhen people lose their voices.â â nupernocte
23. Messy buns
âWhen a woman is wearing absolutely no make up, has her hair up in a shoddy bun and is wearing that ratty t-shirt and sweatpants that shouldâve been thrown out ages ago, but she still has them because they are too damned comfy.
Iâm weirdly attracted to that look, because itâs private. Itâs the persona that no one else gets to see.â â GenericNorwegian
24. Calluses
âCalluses on menâs hands. There is something about knowing that they are working with their hands that really gets me going.â â MdgReadit
25. Stutters
âGuys with stutters or speech impediments are so attractive.â â MailMeGuyFeet
26. Scars
âScars. Never bothered me on a woman and it makes her more interesting.â â Blindsp_t
27. Terrible dancers
âWomen who are terrible dancers. If your attempts at dancing look like a dry-heave set to music, Iâm into it.â â Living_Granger
28. Deep voices
âWomen with deepish voices⊠like not Barry White or James Earl Jones deep, but on the deeper end of the female spectrum.â â OnePoint21JiggaWhats
29. Anger
âSlight anger. I donât mean off the handles raging bitch or angry at me.
But when my SO is angry about something I get oddly turned on. Something about seeing the passion and her worked up. Plus she usually wants to âblow off steamâ either by going shooting, or going at it so it may be a Pavlovian response.â â AlphaTangoFoxtrt
30. Eyebrow gashes
âMen that have a Gash in their eyebrowâŠ.like Jason Momoa.â â Emkate32
31. Tummy pounchs
âRecently I have started to notice that a lot of women have this little stomach bulge under their navel when wearing a dress. Donât know how to explain it but its not like they are fat, itâs just a small bulge around their waist and I think itâs hot as fuck.
Seems like all the women I talk to thinks it makes them look fat though.â â MrStealYourPotm
32. Shoulder dimples
âShoulder dimples.â â BrianPillmansGun
33. Sharp teeth
âSemi-fanged teeth.â â sisu907
34. Stubble
âGuy with no beard. Meh. Heâs alright looking, nothing special. 5 Oâclock shadow. BAM Iâm instantly attracted. I donât know what it is, but I love it.â â thutruthissomewhere
35. Snowboarders
âSnowboarder girls. I automatically assume theyâre hot when I see them. x2 if they can shred.â â sburnham26
36. Natural scents
âSomeones natural scent. But thats just because I have a sensitive nose.â â thecorgisleeps
37. Excitement
âGetting excited about small things (finding a dollar on the ground, you grabbed the last one of your favorite thing at the store, ect).â â Hbasey92
38. Oversized clothing
âSkinny girl in a sweatshirt thatâs way too big for them.â â nateshat
39. Shaved heads
âI adore a woman with a Shaved Head. Iâm talking all the way down, like GI Jane or Natalie Portman from V for Vendetta.â â WhatIsThisFuckerry
40. Muscles
âMuscles on women.
Iâm not a fan of the âbodybuilderâ types, but thatâs more to do with the fake ass spray tan and⊠how do I put thisâŠ. conceit? Vanity?
But a girl thatâs jacked is insanely attractive to me.â â Suuperdad
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