#its so dumb but ithink i kinda need this in a weird way

[caruliaa]

also hi for anyone who cares omitb is sooo fucking good omg ?? like omg omg i watched it all in the last three days and its literally so incredible im so excited for the season 3 finale

[f4liveblogarchives]

Fantastic Four Vol. 1 #84

Wed March 14 2018 [20:54:25] <Wackd> OH NO! Doctor Doom's summoned a marching band, the fiend!

[20:55:40] <Wackd> Oh hey, max, you were talking about the Howling Commandos? [20:56:02] <Wackd> Guess who the Three and Crystal have encountered while flying back from Inhuman territory? [20:56:20] <maxwellelvis> Is it Dum-Dum? I hope it's Dum-Dum [20:56:23] <Wackd> ...i just realized [20:56:31] <Wackd> the howling commandos are the original g.i. joes [20:56:35] <Wackd> prove me wrong [20:57:07] <maxwellelvis> If we could retcon Joe Colton as a Howler... [20:57:13] <Wackd> Anyway yeah, it's Fury and Dum-Dum and SHIELD. [20:57:19] <Duraz> their individual gimmicks were more based in personality and stereotypes, rather than outlandish equipment or specialty? [20:57:36] <Wackd> dammit [20:57:39] <Wackd> i am proved wrong [20:58:28] <maxwellelvis> You had the hardbitten leader, the big Irish lad, the Italian movie star, the black jazz musician, the Jewish guy, the Southerner, and the Ivy Leaguer. [20:58:28] <MousaThe14_> Oh I hate that feeling [20:58:36] <maxwellelvis> Who was later replaced by a British guy. [20:58:57] <Duraz> the British guy wasn't an original member? [20:59:01] <maxwellelvis> Nope. [20:59:05] <maxwellelvis> He replaced the Ivy-Leaguer [20:59:10] <Wackd> So! Meanwhile, some old guy is trying to escape from the clutches of... [20:59:13] <Wackd> Well, guess. [20:59:17] <Wackd> Hint: he's on the cover. [20:59:21] <maxwellelvis> DOOM! [21:00:01] <maxwellelvis> There were actually TWO British guys on the Howling Commandoes. [21:00:21] <Inbarfink2> Good night [21:00:27] <maxwellelvis> "Pinky" Pinkerton, and James Falworth, AKA Union Jack [21:00:29] <maxwellelvis> Night [21:00:38] <Wackd> "i will SEND a fully-armed battaLION to reMIND you of my love, da da-da da da, da da-da da DIE da-da"

[21:04:20] <Duraz> those minions remind me of Sentinels [21:04:28] <Wackd> So, Doom sends the poor sap to be reeducated, bemoaning the whole time that he gives his subjects food and shelter and how do they repay him, yadda yadda. [21:05:10] <maxwellelvis> They made me think of Sentinels in the 1994 cartoon [21:05:39] <maxwellelvis> It's easy to forget that Doombots are not the only robotic minions he has. [21:05:46] <Wackd> Meanwhile, we catch up with the Three, Crystal, Fury, and Dugan. Fury reveals that a SHIELD agent disappeared mysteriously after reporting a hidden army, and that they've found a disembodied robot hand with a mind of his own. [21:05:56] <Wackd> A mind that's preoccupied with blasting the shit out of everyone around it. [21:07:01] <Wackd> Johnny reacts like a normal person, and Fury gets mad at him for destroying their lab specimen. [21:07:35] <Wackd> He also asks Reed to take over on this one, since SHIELD is very very busy. [21:07:42] <Wackd> And also only has two guys in it, I guess. [21:07:50] <Wackd> Four is more than two, so. [21:08:14] <Wackd> Reed objects, because he's got a newborn baby he wants to get back to (why the fuck didn't he also get someone to take over for him, ah, whatever), but is quickly persuaded. [21:10:39] <Wackd> And so, the Three and Crystal are dropped into "communist occupied central Europe"! [21:11:04] <MousaThe14_> Specific! [21:11:05] <Wackd> "You--you really shouldn't need to be told this!"

[21:11:21] <maxwellelvis> I actually feel like objecting to your labeling of the Four at this time. [21:11:31] <MousaThe14_> As opposed to the rifle gun posts which are free for all visitors to enjoy [21:11:31] <maxwellelvis> It feels like you don't see Crystal as a "proper" member [21:11:42] <Wackd> It's nothing against Crystal. [21:11:47] <Wackd> I just object to the sidelining of Sue. [21:11:48] <MousaThe14_> the pistol posts are onnly available to civillians on tuesdays [21:11:57] <Wackd> And I want to make a point of her absence. [21:12:01] <MousaThe14_> the AK-47 poses are accessible every other day [21:12:07] <Wackd> Like, if Sue was still here, I'd call them the Five. It doesn't bother me. [21:12:15] <maxwellelvis> Well it's not coming across that way. [21:12:23] <maxwellelvis> In fact, it's coming off as really disrespectful. [21:12:24] <Wackd> And I'll be doing the same thing if/when Reed, Johnny, or Ben leave the team. [21:13:08] <maxwellelvis> Because it implies that you don't see Crystal, Medusa, She-Hulk, She-Thing, etc, as "real" Fantastic Four members. [21:13:21] <Duraz> there's a She-Thing? [21:13:25] <maxwellelvis> Yeah. [21:13:28] <Wackd> I do, I just see Sue as MORE real, I guess? [21:13:43] <maxwellelvis> That doesn't make much sense, Wackd [21:14:00] <maxwellelvis> Also are you noticing the common element in them all? [21:14:10] <MousaThe14_> Oh there was most certainly a She-Thing. I was surprised too,  Ithink I only learned that maybe 2 years ago, maybe three [21:14:15] <Wackd> Okay, hang the fuck on. [21:14:22] <maxwellelvis> I'm just saying [21:14:24] <Wackd> But are ALL OF THEM replacing Sue, though? [21:14:31] <maxwellelvis> Medusa does. [21:14:59] <Duraz> I'll have to look that up [21:14:59] <Wackd> I just. [21:15:36] <Wackd> Look, if I just keep calling them the Four, it--to me--implies Sue's continued presence as a part of the narrative. [21:15:45] <Wackd> And she's really not at this point. [21:15:49] <maxwellelvis> Duraz: I can explain She-Thing. [21:15:58] <maxwellelvis> But Crystal is the fourth right now. [21:16:18] <Wackd> Yes, she is! And she's--you know what? [21:16:23] <Wackd> I'm gonna take a different tact on this. [21:16:38] <Wackd> max, what hypothetical reader are you imagining that won't know that I think Crystal is great? [21:17:00] <Wackd> Like, me implying that is only a problem if someone thinks I'm implying that, and no one does. [21:17:08] <maxwellelvis> I wouldn't. But even so, calling them "The Three and Crystal" just puts her as "and the rest", kinda, subconsciously. [21:17:37] <MousaThe14_> I mean it's weird but I didn't think much of it other than a weird hang up [21:17:44] <Wackd> I mean, also, be fair to me here, it's not like she STAYS a member of the team. [21:18:02] <MousaThe14_> I would just say "the four" to be brief because as of now they are the four [21:18:04] <Wackd> The immortal status quo that will rear its head in the face of all comers is that Fantastic Four = Reed, Sue, Johnny, Ben. [21:18:20] <maxwellelvis> So? [21:18:37] <Wackd> So yeah, uh. She's kinda not a real member of the team. [21:18:41] <maxwellelvis> Does that make characters like Crystal, Medusa, et al "less Fantastic" because they're not founding members? [21:18:50] <Wackd> That's not MY fault, though. Take it up with the writers and editors. [21:19:05] <maxwellelvis> You're the one relegating her to "And the rest" [21:19:49] <Wackd> It's not me! It's the inexorable march of time! [21:21:23] <maxwellelvis> So? [21:21:25] <Wackd> Alright, I'll compromise: How's "the Four minus Sue" instead? [21:21:37] <maxwellelvis> Still seems to discount Crystal. [21:21:41] <maxwellelvis> Just call them the Four [21:22:00] <Wackd> max, I'm sorry buddy, I'm not gonna do that. [21:22:05] <Wackd> The Five minus Sue? [21:22:31] <maxwellelvis> Sue's not on the team right now. [21:22:58] <Wackd> Yes, and that's for reasons that are bad and dumb and I'm not not going to validate them so that you feel like a fictional character is given respect. [21:23:45] <maxwellelvis> What are those reasons other than "Crystal joining the team isn't permanent and she's taking Sue's place"? [21:25:10] <Wackd> The writing is saddling Sue with being the sole caretaker of her newborn child while Reed continues to superhero. And despite being a main character, Sue's motherhood is unworthy of more than three pages every three issues. [21:25:56] <maxwellelvis> So to point this out, you're going to imply that Sue is only filling space? [21:26:00] <maxwellelvis> Crystal [21:26:23] <Wackd> And don't claim "you can't make taking care of a baby exciting" or "no one would want to read it." This comic has found a way to make love triangles, self-loathing, and economic loss work in a superhero punch-em-up context. [21:26:45] <Wackd> I offered to redo my phrasing to put the emphasis on Sue. [21:27:28] <Wackd> Despite my own feelings on this issue, I think you have some valid points, and I am trying to meet you halfway. [21:28:29] <Wackd> I believe there is a way to normalize Crystal as a member of the team without pretending that Sue being shelved is in any way justifiable. [21:31:32] <MousaThe14_> Does this truly deserve all this discussion? [21:32:00] <MousaThe14_> I mean does it truly matter? [21:32:13] <Wackd> THIS IS THE HELL I CHOOSE TO DIE ON [21:32:19] <maxwellelvis> It matters to me. Otherwise I wouldn't be arguing it. [21:32:22] <MousaThe14_> Anyone else feel like we’re overinflati- [21:32:24] <MousaThe14_> Okay [21:32:30] <Wackd> ...that's one hill of a typo [21:32:46] <Wackd> So, uh. [21:32:55] <Wackd> max, do you have ANY wiggle room on this? [21:33:03] <MousaThe14_> I mean, it’s entirely semantical [21:33:12] <MousaThe14_> It’s just a term. [21:33:15] <Wackd> Because if you don't agree to any of these I'm gonna go with Four minus Sue from here on. [21:33:28] <maxwellelvis> "The four and Sue" if she appears with them, is all the wiggle I have. [21:33:31] <maxwellelvis> *Four* [21:33:44] <MousaThe14_> I mean he said he doesn’t think the others are lesser, therefore his phrasing has no implication therein [21:33:46] <Wackd> Well that's, you know. Worse. [21:34:00] <Wackd> I'm not going to imply SUE RICHARDS is not a member of the Fantastic Four. [21:34:06] <MousaThe14_> We know the motive, we know the method [21:34:13] <maxwellelvis> She's on leave. [21:34:19] <Wackd> Yeah I'm with Mousa on this one. [21:34:40] <Wackd> I've made my motives clear. Any hangups anyone has about this are either hypothetical, or you just not believing me when I say things I guess. [21:34:55] <maxwellelvis> Maybe it's a term, but it eats away at me. [21:35:00] <maxwellelvis> It just bugs me. [21:35:01] <MousaThe14_> I feel like this is the kind of thing that people dislike comic geeks for [21:35:30] <Wackd> I don't think you hear many comic geeks arguing in good faith on how to properly respect fictional women. [21:35:37] <MousaThe14_> Like the sort of thing that gives us a bad rep because it’s curative nonsense on an infinitesimal scale [21:35:48] <Wackd> Suppose that's fair. [21:35:58] <MousaThe14_> And now I must help my mom with the piano [21:36:03] <Wackd> Welp. [21:36:14] <maxwellelvis> Especially because in a couple of decades' time the Four is going to look like this https://i.pinimg.com/474x/2c/9b/2c/2c9b2cbd2c812bbeb037484ed1143821--marvel-characters-marvel-heroes.jpg [21:36:15] <Wackd> I'm gonna drive home and I guess I'll finish this issue there. [21:36:35] <maxwellelvis> And what are you going to call them then? "The Two, plus Crystal and Sharon"? [21:36:44] <Wackd> Yes. [21:36:52] <Wackd> That is exactly what I am going to do. [21:37:05] <Wackd> Unless you prefer "the Four minus Sue and Reed." [21:38:20] <Wackd> ANYWAY uh. [21:39:26] <Wackd> It's my chatroom, it's my decision, I'm gonna go with "Five minus Sue". [21:39:48] <Wackd> Motion passes, meeting adjourned, I'm gonna head home. [21:40:03] <maxwellelvis> So what, if an X-Man isn't one of the five founders they're not a "true" X-Man? [21:40:18] <Wackd> I'm Wack'd Johnson, we're done here . [22:10:17] <MousaThe14_> Max, let it go. It’s ultimately no biggie. [22:13:03] <Wackd> Okay, so, I'm home, and I came up with a new solution. [22:14:09] <Wackd> I'm programming a new shortcut into my keyboard. Now, whenever I type F#, it autocorrects to Reed, Johnny, Ben, and Crystal. [22:14:21] <Wackd> And I'll just update the shortcut whenever the roster changes. [22:14:54] <Wackd> Even when it's the usual four. [22:16:06] <Wackd> SO! I'm gonna finish this issue even if it fucking kills me. Let's go. [22:16:52] <maxwellelvis> Wackd: ... fine. [22:17:50] <maxwellelvis> And Mousa, what may not seem like a big deal to you might not necessarily be one to others. [22:17:58] <maxwellelvis> *Be the same to others* [22:18:19] <Wackd> The plan, apparently, is for Reed, Johnny, Ben, and Crystal to get captured by Doctor Doom, and use their access to his castle to find out whether he's behind the robots SHIELD was investigating. [22:19:13] <Wackd> You can hear Loki, Khanberbatch, that guy from Skyfall, and about a hundred others desperately scribbling down notes as they read. [22:19:18] <maxwellelvis> The old "Get our asses kicked so we can find out what he's up to" plan, eh? [22:19:36] <Wackd> I just don't know what they'll do if Doom doesn't have a square glass case to put them in [22:20:53] <Wackd> The guy at the boarder patrol of this communist occupied central European nation is all like "are...you guys sure?" when they try to pass into Latveria. [22:21:37] <Wackd> Reed's like "yeah, we are" and the guard is like "you poor saps." [22:22:05] <Wackd> And so, they drive into Latveria. [22:22:18] <Wackd> And then their car explodes because the road is magnetized. [22:22:27] <Wackd> I feel like that should have the OPPOSITE effect but okay. [22:22:29] <maxwellelvis> When the Communists are scared of this guy, you know you're in trouble. [22:22:32] <MousaThe14_> Freaking magnets [22:22:36] <MousaThe14_> How do they work [22:22:37] <maxwellelvis> Well, I can see how that would - HUH? [22:23:02] <maxwellelvis> (That's a phrase I will gladly steal from the ACEG over and over again) [22:23:27] <Wackd> So, uh, given how much all these folks care about each other, you can guess how well "operation get our asses kicked" goes. [22:23:52] <Wackd> Crystal gets napped, Johnny gets angry, Johnny gets attacked, Reed gets angry, Reed gets attacked, Ben gets angry. [22:23:59] <MousaThe14_> Johnny goes ablaze as soon as- [22:24:01] <Wackd> Fight fight fight. [22:24:02] <MousaThe14_> Called it [22:24:43] <MousaThe14_> God, it’s the world’s most predictable set of dominoes [22:24:46] <Wackd> Also, Doom has the most brilliant plan ever to capture Ben. [22:25:07] <MousaThe14_> He her [22:25:15] <MousaThe14_>  He threw a rock at him [22:25:20] <MousaThe14_> No wait [22:25:28] <Wackd> He shoots a missile in Ben's general direction, and rigs it to pour out sleeping gas when Ben inevitably punches a hole in it. [22:25:33] <MousaThe14_> He threw him, a rock [22:25:48] <MousaThe14_> That’s... [22:25:52] <MousaThe14_> That... [22:25:54] <Wackd> "Punchin' things! My one weakness!" [22:25:54] <MousaThe14_> Okay [22:26:02] <MousaThe14_> I mean, he’s not wrong [22:26:26] <Wackd> I don't think I've ever before seen anyone WEAPONIZE Ben's inability to pass up a chance to punch a thing. [22:26:41] <Wackd> I'm not even being sarcastic. That's brilliant. [22:28:48] <Wackd> Okay, did Stan pick up a book on hypnotism lately? [22:29:28] <Wackd> While Reed, Johnny, Ben, and Crystal were knocked out, Doom hypnotized them to not use their powers anymore. [22:29:42] <Wackd> He's also put the men up in a cushy hotel. [22:31:15] <Wackd> Hey, so, you know how in modern comics, people who live in Latveria are like "our lives are good, and everyone's healthy and happy, and therefore our fascist dictator is a swell guy"? Maaaaybe we shouldn't take that at face value.

[22:31:43] <maxwellelvis> "Modern"? [22:32:07] <Wackd> (I mean, we shouldn't take that at face value period, but from an in-universe perspective, Doom canonically threatens everyone into being happy, so) [22:32:09] <maxwellelvis> I have Kooky Quartet-era Avengers comics where throngs of peasants flock to Doom in praise. [22:32:42] <maxwellelvis> I think it's the same one where it's revealed he's used his scientific knowledge to restore a boy's ability to walk. [22:32:57] <maxwellelvis> Unless that's in like an X-Men comic I may have read and forgotten about. [22:33:32] <Wackd> I feel like the tenor of it is different in modern comics? Writers now like to have Latverians make a big deal out of how Doom is beneficial on a societal level, whereas older comics are more likely to have the peasants just revere Doom as a god. [22:34:20] <Wackd> But yes, I'll concede that "Doom's people like him" isn't a terribly new reading. [22:35:36] <Wackd> So! Doom has had his people throw a "Fantastic Four Fiesta Day" for their new guests. [22:36:03] <Wackd> (I dig Crystal's description of the general atmosphere: "Everyone looks so joyful, but they jump at every sound.") [22:36:44] <maxwellelvis> Okay, even under subliminal mind control, this should be setting off every alarm bell in Reed's head [22:36:54] <maxwellelvis> When was the last time Doom EVER said something nice about him? [22:36:55] <Wackd> It is, actually. [22:37:25] <Wackd> Doom only hypnotized them to not use their powers, nothing more. They're otherwise cognizant of the situation. [22:37:47] <maxwellelvis> Ah [22:38:03] <Wackd> Ben is actually kinda buying it, while Johnny and Crystal don't know how to handle the situation if it is a trap. [22:38:30] <Wackd> Reed's decided he's going to "prove to you how free everyone REALLY is", and by "you" he means Ben, I guess? [22:39:27] <Wackd> Anyway, to do this, he makes a run for the border, where he is hit by a stun blast, and warned by Doom's face on a computer screen: "remain here and be eternally happy, or else you die."

[ventagebyme]

to be honest being godly and thinking self-destructive thoughts is hard dude. like if were going to be 100 its a pain in my ass. like do i wanna do whats best for the lord? you betcha. but like i wanna make bad decisions ya know/ tl;dr i wanna just be super gay and have a gay boyfriend and be gay. which i can do ya know but heres the thing. 

why do i do the things i do ya know like im so clingy on the wrong people and who am i ya know these are just the #facts i just wanna give people the right amount of space without competely pushing them away and thats super shitty like idk i love rayne, rachel,, asia, lily, tiff, and grace “just a few ppl who are super important that this pertains too” but im sick of being the punching bag? like its annoying and shit like why in every group of friends is that me like tbh i know why but im lowkey over it because once you become the punching bag theres no backing out of it youre the punching bag forever ya know. and im the punching bag bc i always start yhe roasting but really thats because how else do i show love? was i raised another way? no i wasnt. but some ppl need to man the fuck up “cough” rachel “cough” like stop being so sensitive to your roasts ya know thats super annoying and fuck 

also ive been zoning out alot lately and thats kinda stupid and i hate it bc i always look weird and fake when i zone out and idek i gotta stop projecting theese fake things on my self bc i do it alot i just gotta focus more lol i gotta pul i together god. 

any way i miss wolfthal still which annoys me bc why should I? i dunno i have no reason to but when a person up and leaves your life you kinda get upset about it ya know and tbh im glad that i have nina and sadie as y people bc they are great and give me the information i need to move forward tbh and thats what i love. like in the best way possible if i lost all my friends except sadie and nina i actually wouldnt be that mad. upset yeah but mad? no not really. omg of like naybody but them saw this they woudl be PISSED lol succs to succ yall. 

N T way back to the basics im not suicidal now which is a :) i guess. being suicidal really has just become a state of being for me at this point so its all fine and dandy. 

but like i was talking to lloyd and i said something that really stuck with me “im self centered lmao” like january is the thriiving month for me because everyone gets all sad and im like WELCOME TO ME EVERYDAY BITCHES LETS GET WILD LMAO but i LIVE in those months ya know? 

also lets be for real what am i actually doing with my life ya know? like what direction am i moving in bc is it positive? im highkey kinda a mess adn if were going to be 100 yet again i need to get that on track 

also kaleb stop fucking around and fall in love with me goddammit im over it 

anthony it wouldn’t be bad for you to do the same so step yall pussies up damn 

again anyway ithink im gonna stop to read over this and go to bed bc its LATE but to wrap it all up 

not suciidal 

lonely 

no direction in my life 

im sick of being the punching bag (its mainly my fault im the punching bag anyway) 

nina and sadie are my faves 

i want a man BAD 

i like when the people around me ger close to the same level of sad as me 

i also enjoy being overly annoying and stupid and dumb and funny because it destracts me from how much i dont want to be in this body. (i wanna be on thise earth bc moss and tiny twigs and the water but this body can fuck off) 

thats last one is new HOW ICONIC 

bye future me bicth LMAOOOOOOOOO