#its so creepy that Martti loves Marina so much but realty is we all feel he sees her as an 'object' to him

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VTM Session

Forgot to tell the folks here on how last VTM session that Marina and Martti finally talked because Martti got her phone number and put Marina in a position to have to speak to him. Martti also appeared at the funeral but only Ingrid saw him and he didn't do anything.

Basically it was:

-He wanted Tiana, their great-granddaughter. Marina refused as her reason was to let the girl do what she wants and to live her life. He was to "train" her which means corrupt her like he did with their daughter and change her to an abomination.

-Marina tried to get him to reveal where Saana (daughter) is. He of course didn’t as he stated Marina would be reckless. She responded simply she wasn't reacting poorly to him right now. Marina is hoping with “playing nice” that he will bring her to their daughter. He also confirmed there is a way he speaks to her.

-(For those not aware, Saana is currently comatose. She tried to also change into an abomination but failed and is stuck in a half transformed state.)

-Since Ingrid was there, Martti said to Ingrid face how he is still married to Marina and that her dating Ingrid was false and he didn’t see it as cheating. 🤢

-Talks of him saying Marina could have potential if she would just listen to him. Basically let herself get corrupted by the Wyrm.

-The biggest one…Marina said, “Listen, I forgive you for what happened the night we both got turned.”

-In which Marina’s Beast responded with violence, “I WILL NEVER FORGIVE HIM!” and then took over Marina and made her go Lupus. Martti punched her (he rolled 15 successes) and knocked her out by Ingrid’s suggestion of not causing another Masquerade violation.

-When Marina came to she told her grandson, Frank on what is going on. She fears that none of them can stop Martti from taking Tiana and that they can't stop him.

-Marina is secretly as horrible as it is that she believe if they can fix Saana and she as potential that maybe he would be more focused on her that Tiana. Though Marina has been proven before, to be the fiercest guardian to her children.

-Marina got another text from another burner number from Martti who asked her if she was alright. She responded she was.

-He sent back ❤️ 😘

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At some point soon, Marina is attending the Gather as Art Morgan called for it for the Gangrels. He's trying to bring them back into the Camarilla which Marina is in support of. Not sure how it will go but I also have a feeling Martti might show up there? But also its scary that he is now in regular contact with Marina and she really can't ignore he ex that can sidestep the Umbra and just pop up where she is.