#it's that damaging and i didn't even idolise her i just liked some of her songs and the breakup didn't phase me

[wastinawaaay]

don't idolise famous rich people -> yeah man no problem -> famous rich people is problematic -> by god this can't be happening -> don't idolise....

[dontbesoweirdkira]

howdyyy, what do u think of plat yan! dick grayson (or platonic yan father bruce wayne up to u) with a batsis who is very disinterested with him primarily bc when she was younger she idolised him a lot but now not so much. there are comics where grayson has cheated on his partners before so imagine batsis coming to realise as she aged and matured that her doting brother is a bit of a playboy…. a lot like a playboy actually—

You know, this is actually extremely realistic. There's nothing like the rose color glasses falling off and realizing just how messed up your family truly is.

I'd like to think that there was plenty of jokes and mentions about Dick being a playboy but Batsis would just be absolutely clueless. You probably just thought it was a reference to his charming appearance or the way he gets hit on at least once whenever he goes out. Not really that he was an notorious heart breaker.

Like i don't think the other batkids had serious talks about it in front of you because of your (then) age or maybe it was a request by Dick so he could keep on his perfect mask with you?

Ironically, he wouldn't want any man to treat his little sister (or any of them) the way he does to other women but he has a problem. I will say though, it makes absolute sense that Dick or even the others would have issues keeping relationships or even have sex addictions. I mean it's a real issue that many people are struggling with right now. But can you imagine your father constantly bringing home women and cheating your entire childhood? Like Bruce introduces some of these women to them, they get attached to this potential mother then it's ripped away to be discarded for the new catch. I think that definitely warped Dick's view of women and romance stems from that. *intense mommy issues* But also i mentioned before that it's hard for him to maintain relationships while taking on the fatherly role in the family. His obsession with making sure all of his siblings are cared for and protected(mixed with being nightwing), makes it all the more difficult. Maybe that leads him to just hooking up with and being sloppy in his relationships. Maybe its just a means of stress relief and that causes him to almost dehumanize/objectify the women he "romances".

I'm not saying this is justifiable, cheating is disgusting and his behaviors are something that needs to be corrected regardless of mommy issues but for headcanon sake we are entertaining the concept

I'm not sure how you'd exactly find out about it. Maybe one of the kids let it slip and didn't bother to do damage control because you're old enough now? Maybe you spoke to one of his exes that is still friendly with the batfam? Or maybe your brain started to develop and you realized he wasn't hanging out with that new super model as just friends all night...it was something more and his girlfriend definitely didn't know about it.

Regardless, I think when you finally found out about everything, your world crushed. I don't think you'd hate him but you just feel yucky about the whole thing. Now when you look at him something in your stomach just sinks. You might even wonder if you can trust him. I mean if he's got that much of a problem to be dishonest with his lovers, then why would it be so left field to suggest he lied to you too when he said he loves you or that you were his favorite? The transition from you idolizing him to being standoff-ish would be extremely noticeable to him. I mean it's hard to ignore when you were his mini me. Even as you got older you followed him around and never skipped an opportunity to be near.

He wouldn't think that it was because of the playboy thing, maybe just you needing some space as a teen. Everyone has gone through that phase before but when he notices your shift is only directed towards him, he's a little upset about it. He doesn't understand what he did wrong? One day you guys are eating ice cream together while having a sleepover in his room to you treating him like a disease.

Eventually your big brother corners you and makes you to confess whats bothering you. He apologizes if something he said rubbed you the wrong way but you couldn't keep treating him this way.

"uhm..i dunno, dick? I found out how you've been treating you partners and i think it's kinda gross. I guess i just don't really wanna be around someone who treats women like that right now..."

I think Dick's reaction would be complete shock....who tf told you?! He has no defense but he tries to muster up one before realizing this is just making him look worse when EVERYBODY knows how much of a whore he is lol. He'd back off of you and maybe even mutter an apology before walking away to go collect himself.

He's furious as well...whoever told you will be getting an earful because they just ruined something precious to him. (yeah they did. totally not his OWN actions) If it was one of his brothers, he will be throwing hands.

Dick does very much care about others perception of him, i've said this before. He knew he had a problem and his other siblings have spoken to him about it and it affected him but never enough to change. It's just a far deeper issue than wanting a quick fuck in the expense of his partners...But seeing his baby sister look at him with just so much disgust and disappointment was enough to cause him to spiral. He's not proud of his actions and knows he's hurt and discarded of many, many women for his own satisfaction. It's deplorable. I can imagine him taking maybe a few days to himself, he's just in his head while being overtaken by heavy guilt.

I'm not sure if Dick would actually change for you though? I think he is even debating it. Yeah he's a yandere for his batsis but is his obsession with you enough to kick the other one to the curb? That's up to you. A hopeful person would say, yes he would. Anything for his babybat! He's going to do whatever it takes to prove himself again, anything to make you proud. This habit isn't worth it if hes loosing you.

My opinion? No, he won't change after his guilt wears off. He'll just pretend like he's reborn. Dick would try for like a week and then go right back to doing his habits. He's a manipulative piece of work and yeah, lying to you is bad but he wants his cake and to eat it too. He's not willing to give up anything that gives him a euphoric boost. Shh...what you don't know, won't kill you.

[em-writes-stuff-sometimes]

I don’t know why I had this random thought popped up in my head all of a sudden but I feel like what the thing Alicent is most jealous of Rhaenyra is her motherhood like we all know that even though Alicent is resentful towards rhaenyra bc rhaenyra does essentially gets treated like the bby of the family in which she can pretty much do whatever she wants w/o consequence from her father (kind of giving me the eldest sister who suffers the most consequence from her actions & held to a more higher standard vs the youngest who gets away with everything, which is understandable but I lost empathy w/ Alicent a bit when she lets it consumes her & extend it to her children to cause even further división even though it’s not 100% her fault in a way that her shit of a father warped her into this person but still as an adult she’s also aware of what she’s doing but anyways..) but when I watch Alicent along with her children, there’s such a disconnect between them vs when I watch rhaenyra along w/ her children, there’s so much emotions, love, & bonding that I can’t help but think further cause her resentment towards rhaenyra bc not only she gets favorable treatment but motherhood just comes naturally towards her as well. Idk, sorry for the disorganized ramblings, it’s just what stuff like this pops in my head it takes me for a ride lol

Hey, nonnie!

I really like this analysis. I do think a lot of her resentment comes from this, too, on reflection. Alicent was only a child when she started having children; I'm sure on many levels she feels frozen at that age. It makes sense to me, the respective casting of her children and her - I know there's criticism of how there's like NO age gap IRL between the casting for the characters of a mother and her children, but I appreciate how this highlights Alicent's juvenility at the time she gave birth. In many respects, she's stuck where her children have aged from the neglect they've received. Sorta an incidental casting flub that makes for some really interesting symbolic subtext to the narrative the show is presenting.

All this in mind, there's no wonder that Alicent would come to feel envy for Rhaenyra. Her role in society is marriage and motherhood, and she is not able to excel at either by virtue of circumstances out of her control. Still, she pushes for duty and devotion, because she's good and she's been raised to do the right thing. And then you have Rhaenyra, who has "flouted all" and done as she liked, and yet somehow has managed to achieve her societal goals and do it better than she has. Her children clearly idolise her; she first has Laenor, who was friendly enough with her to willingly claim her sons, and then Daemon, who while a wild card is evidently in her corner; and she even holds the vaunted title of heir over Alicent's sons. It must be infuriating. I don't blame her for that. I do blame her for how she's acted on those feelings, though. Well, blame isn't the word for it. More that I think it's dangerous in ANY respect to use someone's past trauma as a catch-all to absolve them of wrongdoing. Alicent is not a good person, but that doesn't mean she didn't also have a horrible youth and a right in her own mind to behave the way she has.

Lol, sorry for my disorganised and rambling response! It makes me froth to think of all the baggage these characters have. It's why I cannot truly despise any of them (notwithstanding the fact that it's just a show and none of it is real, of course). They all have their own damage and they do bad things because of that. What a fucked-up world they live in. Give me more of it!

[septembersghost]

I never understood why taylor was THAT heartbroken with jake untill I read an article about dating older men. They have much more life experience compared to young girls. These girls would do everything they can to impress them and would put them on the pedestal. While I don't think jake was grooming her I think he was a bit of a narcissist who enjoyed her idolising him. He also made sure he had the power in that relationship without her realising it. She never felt she was 'enough' to please him and he always pointed out things he didn't like about her.[source begin again and IBYTAM].It is also interesting that the same taylor who wrote mean let someone devalue her that much because she was in 'love'. I think Taylor calling him 'twin flame' wasn't because of their mutual great love but as a result of her idolisation and lack of real dating experience.Him being her first might also play into it. If 25 year old Taylor dated him there is no way he would inspire something similar to red even if she hadn't fallen in love with anyone else yet.(Sorry for the rant. My head is kind of a mess right now with all these points)

you can rant! i'm sorry when it takes me a while to reply.

so i'm going to approach this somewhat differently, because i always understood her depth of heartbreak on red, but sometimes i think that's because she and i are wired quite similarly in certain respects (or i over-empathize, which is probably it). taylor is a highly sensitive person and a romantic (she's a loves love romantic, she's also a capital-r Romantic), she feels things deeply, she also badly internalizes pain and harm. i think you have to factor in not only the power dynamic at play here, but also what happened directly beforehand (namely, john). that was a far more sinister situation, but it...spun her out, and she may have sought something that felt mature and beautiful not only as a way to escape it, but as a way to affirm to herself that she was worthwhile. it's not uncommon for victims of abusive situations to land in something similar (and i believe john was abusive on some level). jake seems like a reprieve after john, a better choice - older but gentler, more of an intellectual, not perceived as a "bad boy" - until you scratch beyond the surface. she had no way of knowing that until it was too late. earning love and respect from a man like that is going to feel validating and even like a bit of a high, especially after a different older man you idolized made you feel damaged and worthless.

honestly i think in a lot of situations, even with very different dynamics, we go grasping for anyone that might make us feel loved and embraced after someone else we loved does severe damage. when i was struggling terribly with overlapping kinds of loss and difficult transition in my life, i gave all that love to someone who severely traumatized me, and the situations with both the person i was trying to recover from and the person who ended up making it infinitely worse are totally different from what happened with taylor, but speak now and red have also always resonated with them completely. i was 22 (a very, very sheltered and shy and naive 22. though sometimes i am still that now due to circumstances!), and i just wanted someone who would cherish me and listen and understand, and thought i had found that, and it was absolutely not the case and was instead...VERY dark. i have intense self-worth issues and am also prone to people pleasing to an extreme and and am also very soft-hearted, and the combination of all the things that happened to me made me want to die. because the feeling of loss and rejection came from people i loved. people who said fate had brought us together, people who called me a soul mate, people who i thought would always be in my future, and then they drew their daggers and aimed for my heart.

the difference between the entirety of red and a singular track like mean is in that emotional attachment. she really, completely loved him. the belittlement, the warning signs, none of that registered initially, because the love felt powerful. she didn't have any emotional attachment at all towards the subject of mean, he's just a cranky jerk critic. some man saying something about her professionally and activating her sharp pen is not at all similar to intense heartbreak from a man she was in love with and dreamed of having a future with and felt was as close as home. and not trying to defend jake here (because. ugh), but i do think he loved her. i just think he, as she has said, had his demons, and didn't know HOW to love her without also being damaging and condescending and unstable. (he said once part of why he was awful in the relationship is because he loved her too much and was scared, and i tried to find this but instead stumbled across something that made me furious asdkjdkjf). the point is that it was mutual, but he was fucked up and ultimately hurtful. i don't think she's deluding herself when she notices all the moments he loves her too, that's...the thesis of all too well. it was rare, you were there, you remember it. that's sad beautiful tragic, i almost do, the last time, state of grace. all that was very real for her, and you don't tend to feel that unless it's returned. there's a massive contrast between the way she writes about jake and the way she writes about john (who did not return her love), even though ultimately both end in ruin and heartbreak. and when she couldn't earn the value and respect she craved, she kept going back to him for the intimacy because at least that was something they had, and i think...a lot of harm came from that too. imho it's not quite beholding the entirety of the story of red to think that love wasn't mutual, and that even he was hurt despite it being of his own damn making. the tragedy isn't one sided, he's integral to it. i know the guys who hurt and used and mistreated me, and who were liars and narcissists, also, unfortunately, loved me. it makes the ache worse. it makes the scars deeper, and the wreckage harder to sift through, because people who love us aren't supposed to hurt us. but sometimes they do, and it's awful, and it's not our fault. and sometimes we love people much more than they do us, and more than perhaps they deserve, but it doesn't make that not real. would've could've should've isn't love, but the beginning of maroon is. dear john isn't love, but all too well is. ours and superman really idolize their subject, but i'm not sure i'd say that anything on red is quite as starry-eyed as it is longing. she loved, and she yearned to be loved as much in return, and she wasn't.

with begin again, this was posted, and it speaks directly to this subject. "there was something dark and adult about what i had experienced. you should keep some element of childhood - that wonderment and ability to laugh." my breath caught a little at, "home reminds me of comfort, and comfort was what i never had in the previous relationship" because it...adds context to/belies "used to call home"/"felt like home" in that she believed she had comfort, but it always turned dark, turned to tears, turned to put downs. it made her feel special, then it made her feel small. when you think you've found a home with someone...when you think you have that twin flame with them, that soul connection, you do anything to convince yourself to keep it, until you can't because you're going to disappear or burn yourself down. a soldier returning half her weight. did the love affair maim you too?

also i wouldn't necessarily say that 25 year old taylor is more substantively different than 20/21 year old taylor, except she was battle-scarred and weary and jaded. she was sadly still with someone who didn't see her worth and made her feel like she was never enough. she was still with someone who belittled her art and talent. i think she felt dead and hopeless inside for quite a while (which breaks my heart), and every single one of those situations is connected. (harry doesn't have the diminishment aspect or the disrespect towards her of course!, but the tumultuous uncertainty still took a real toll, especially following jake.) i have a feeling that was all she felt she deserved, or all she'd ever really have. anxiety or loneliness. until joe. (a string that pulled me out of all the wrong arms right into that dive bar, something wrapped all of my past mistakes in barbed wire, chains around my demons, wool to brave the seasons). all that said, i don't doubt for a moment that all the love she's felt and given has been very real for her, and that's why she's so gifted at putting it into words.

[lovethatmakingcoffee]

And then she said that type of mentality hurts women irl, did u read this or what? I'm reading it rn, it's from a data scientist (allegedly) trying to reason with why this is happening, why he may have had these viewpoints when he was in his twenties, and that young fans (no fault of their own, I'm sure cause they are young and not the sharpest) idolise creators and sometimes show their sexual interest in them and how that can cause complications, and also the tweet thread discusses how creators have to respond faster and professionally in a social media world that demands answers immediately.

To me, the thread isn't the best in pacing and is kind of all over the place so it's hard to follow, and I don't think it translates well. But from what I have read so far, that seems to be what she is getting at. She then goes on to discuss macho men's brains and yes, the dumb shit they say and how even then with all the "problematic" things they talk about, she is still able to befriend them and connect with them and see past the macho persona and see the individual.

I think she's getting at that people are clumping Forever into this macho (? is this the word) persona and maybe he even did so to himself back then, but we need to look past that and see the individual. I think that's why Forever liked this tweet thread. Not because it excused his actions and said that dating a young teenager was ok (I'm not saying he dated that girl, just overall in general when discussing this type of subject), it tried to reason with his tweets. To understand where his brain was at that time and perhaps who he was at that time. Not excuse, but reason and comprehend. Understand on a clinical level why he did what he did, I think.

She does try to pyscho-analyze him and say he hasn't repeatedly shown sexual interest in minors, in her perspective (and frankly in mine too). She tries to explain with sources the definition of pedophilia and where men in different cultures would usually view a girl at a certain age as 'mature for their age' but stated that she is aware that those viewpoints are damaging to young women but she is able to understand that young girls may try to fit into the mindset while growing up. Since it is so common and culturally perhaps socially pushed onto them. In my eyes this is what she is saying, speaking about this experience... something akin to a double-edged sword. That both parties push, enforce, accept, and encourage this mindset, making things problematic.

But she also mentioned that these studies need to be updated, which could help different culture's mindsets. She points out that Forever didn't commit any crimes which we already know (it's just the ick factor, I think everyone can at least agree on that). Then she went on the newer history of cancel culture saying since our mindsets and views are constantly changing, that if we enforced punishment on things that people have done in the past that people have changed their opinions on, then everyone would be punished. Yes, you and you and you. Everyone.

She is mainly trying to calm everyone in this situation, sympathize if it has been triggering them from past traumas, and explain that yes there are internet crimes, but this doesn't appear to be one of them.

And then of course, in grand old twitter fashion. They freaked out on her. Saying things like he hasn't apologized or taken responsibility, which if they read the thread, she is addressing that social media should give him time to.

Then talked about how he wanted to mock and sue children, like- bruh, I think we know that the anon twitter user who started all of this is not just some child. Pretty sure they are an anti who likes digging things up and pretty sure it was confirmed.

Other replies say it was a bad thread and its adding fuel to the fire, some saying that the thread maker is telling them to be more objective for love.

Some people seem to have gotten that idolizing a celebrity can bring complications to both parties. Whatever those complications may end up being.

Others realize that they see the Forever-situation as someone (the anti) trying to attack someone else (Forever)

And honestly a bunch of back and forths between people who see the thread maker's point of view and who... well, I question if they read all of it.

I think read it properly and understood what they meant. Maybe she could have written it a little bit better, but these are tweets for heavens sake, not an academic paper.

I definitely didn't write everything she said in order, so sorry about that. But I will say after reading this, I think I'm still going to side with Forever for now until he makes an announcement. Honestly until ANYONE makes an announcement. I'm surprised they haven't yet but this is like a super touchy situation and might damper qsmp for many no matter which way it goes. And I suppose it is best to give them time to cool off and give a clear announcement.

That's it. I defended this man since Friday, please chill out for five minutes so mommy can have some me time.

So forever liked a twt thread where someone defends him

Link for who wants:

TLDR: It pretty much says that what he did isn't ped0philia by law definition and not a crime, and adult man getting with teen girls was "normal" because of the belief that girls mature earlier than boys, and that was the beliefs that forever was going with.

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As soon as jimin realised what he had just uttered out unconsciously, he straightened up. He didn't know how he mustered up the courage to look at your face, but he somehow did. And the sight broke his heart.

Your mouth was slightly ajar; eyes disbelieving, and breath ragged. You didn't realise when tears started dripping down your sullen cheeks one after the other. "Haejin?" You found yourself asking in that dry voice of yours.

Jimin looked down, grabbing his hair in his fists tightly. What had he done. He couldn't even bear looking at you right then. He didn't know what to tell you either. The damage had been done. He was done moaning out someone else's name while having sex with you. And you were hurting because of it.

You were completely silent during the drive back home. A weird numbness had engulfed you as you found yourself replaying jimin's voice in your head over and over.

H-haejin..

Fuck.. H-haejin..

You had never heard this name from his mouth before. Ever. And now that you two were finally making love after a month of being away, he suddenly says it. Your mind was a tangled mess of confusing thoughts.

Jimin was driving a little too fast. The few minutes of drive back home felt like years of agony. His mind was a blur. He found himself silently praying for it all to be a bad dream. A nightmare.

Everything happened so fast that he almost couldn't comprehend it. He had never wished to be dead more than in that moment. A tear ran down his cheek.

—

Trigonometry class was almost like a new obsession for jungkook. He had never been this excited to attend a class ever in his life. He sat right in the front during every lecture; noted down every piece of information he found useful, and even did all the chores for his professor.

All because he admired the shit out of Kim Namjoon.

He had never idolised anyone in his life before. Everyone seemed too bland or predictable. He got bored of things and people easily. But this mysterious looking man with an iq of 148 and a personality that makes everyone look twice; had him looking up to him more than anyone.

"Choi Somin." Namjoon announced, handing out the exam results.

Somin huffed, getting up from her seat and walking up to the tall man.

"Do better next time." He spoke in a low, calm voice. Somin nodded, and sat down on her seat beside jungkook with a thud.

"Jeon jungkook."

He got up almost immediately, making the whole class stare at him.

"Perfect score as always." Namjoon told the boy with a smile.

Jungkook clutched the answer sheet in his hands; his eyes crinkling with joy.

He's proud of me, he kept thinking as he got back on his seat. Somin glanced down at the boy's exam sheet.

"Fucking nerd." She gave him a weird look. But deep down, she too was extremely happy for the boy, whose eyes were literally twinkling like stars. Somin's breath hitched at the sight.

—

You broke into a pool of tears as soon as you got home. The realness of it all hit you like a fucking typhoon. Jimin, upon seeing this, and as much as he wanted to miraculously disappear; decided to pull you into a tight hug.

"Let go of me.." You managed to mutter in his arms. But he didn't let go. He couldn't. Or else he would have to look at your tear-stained face again.

Jimin's sleeve was all wet as you kept crying for a full minute. He kept patting your head softly, as if trying to put a baby to sleep.

"Who *hiccup* the fuck is Haejin?" You asked through your muffled voice.

"No one. Trust me baby." He tried to stay calm; soothingly running his fingers along your back.

Trust him?

Can I trust him anymore? You kept thinking.

"Don't lie to me." Came your response. Your crying had finally died down and you felt like you'd collapse any second.

"She's just a colleague, baby. I met her during my trip. That's it. It was a slip of the tongue. Believe me."

When you didn't respond for a while, jimin loosened his arms around you to find you sleeping. Your nose was red, and your lashes were glistening with tears. He almost shed a tear of his own at the sight.

He leaned in to place a kiss on your slightly ajar lips.

"I love you so much, y/n. Please trust me."

✫------✫

Jimin dropped his gaze at her hand on his chest.

Haejin's hand cautiously started moving against his bare chest, massaging the skin there. He had some of his buttons unbuttoned, so she had a perfect view of his melanin skin glistening in the pale light of the lamp.

Jimin almost couldn't move, as if frozen in place. Her hand went a little deeper hesitantly. Unbuttoning another one of his buttons, she had herself a wider area to work on. His muscles were tensed up and his skin was sweaty from the long walk; a perfect combination to make haejin let out a stifled moan.

"When did you get so hot, Park Jimin?"

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[arianeemorythethird]

I hope it's okay to just jump in here -

I like that post because it's a reminder that Padme is her own character with her own goals and flaws and agency, not just a Perfect Pure Unproblematic stick to beat Anakin with, but I agree that there's something not quite right with its analysis of Padme's character. I don't actually think there is very much evidence Padme was afraid to be alone, specifically? she definitely did have fears and flaws that contributed to the Anakin Catastrophe - she absolutely was afraid of losing him - but otherwise I don't think that post necessarily does a great job of identifying those fears and flaws.

TPM is important because it shows us Anakin's damage and why he's Like That, but it also does the same thing for Padme, I think? her planet was invaded and she was responsible for leading the war to reclaim it, for the lives and deaths of her people - that would be heavy fucking shit for an adult, but she was only fourteen years old! of course it would have messed her up. her damage is more subtle than Anakin's, but I think it's there, if you look.

the thing is, in TPM Padme won, against all odds. and that's amazing, but I think it taught her, on a deep unconscious emotional level, that if you're plucky and courageous and stick to your principles no matter what happens, you'll always win - but the real world isn't usually like that. I genuinely don't think that Padme, as an adult, ever really truly emotionally believed that she could fail - and I do believe that ties into the not really being afraid of death thing, but only because she didn't ever really believe she could die! she had this deep unerring optimism that she could do anything and convince anyone and win everything if only she tried hard enough, and that is both admirable and deeply problematic. because she can't! no-one can do that! and if you can't accept failure as an option, you can't fully weigh up the risks of what you're doing - your own optimism can blind you.

you see it in AOTC, where her arc was all about stopping the military creation act - except then she got sidetracked by trying to save Obi-Wan, because she could do everything, she had to do everything, she couldn't compromise any part of her principles - and in doing so indirectly started the war she was trying so hard to prevent.

and the same thing happened with Anakin, I think. I truly believe Padme was as obsessed and weird about her childhood memory of Anakin, between TPM and AOTC, as Anakin was about her - she idolised him as this selfless self-sacrificing figure, because that is what Anakin was, in TPM! and so we saw her, as an adult, still unable to let go of her idealised image of Anakin even as the real man in front of her was displaying some uh worrying characteristics. but she couldn't let herself see that! she just had to try harder, argue better, love him more deeply, and he'd realise that she was right and go back to being the Anakin she loved again.

her problem wasn't that she was afraid of being alone, her problem was that she genuinely couldn't conceive of failing at anything important to her, political or personal. it just wasn't part of her worldview, on a deep emotional level.

for her whole life, I think, part of Padme was still fourteen, and terrified, but she couldn't stop and she couldn't back down and she couldn't compromise and she had to keep trying - and as long as she kept trying, she knew she'd eventually win -

until she didn't.

the more I think about the "Padme was terrified to be alone" post, the more I realize there's something I fundamentally disagree with about it, but I can't articulate why.

I think it does explain some of her motivations and subconscious actions, and yes I think that 'Batshit Padme' is a very fun interpretation, but there's something about it that just doesn't sit right