#it's straight up nazis and trust me I'm the one who says 'oh we should be careful about calling everyting nazi otherwise it loses meaning'

[elbiotipo]

The Florida Republican legislator who praised Javier Milei and then praised Argentina with the straight up nazi thinking of "one race, one culture, one religion", which is not only Nazi propaganda but a complete and absolute lie, really puts into perspective the whole "ARGENTINA IS WHITE XDXDXDXDDX" memes anglos have been spreading uncritically like it's just a funny joke. It's not an insult, it's an ASPIRATION for them. They WANT to be the Nazi Argentina which only exists in their heads and memes.

They had so much fun calling us nazis and there you have it, straight up white supremacists in their politics praising and supporting our far right, which has also been funded by US "think-tanks" such as the Atlas Network. THE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE, YANQUI. YOUR COUNTRY IS THE ONE FULL OF NAZIS, YOU HAVE THEM IN YOUR GOVERMENT, IN YOUR POLICE, IN YOUR MILITARY.

[lunarian-anarchist]

I didn't go on OP's page so I wasn't aware of them being a zionist. I reblogged it when I was up really late and tired af so I didn't think to check.

Knowing that I'll delete the post but let me say something first; who are you to decide if this is "one of the most antisemitic periods of history"? Further; per your "expert" opinion, what would be the qualification for such a thing? And who gets to decide that anyways?

Ever since Oct 7th; I've seen blatant hatred come out from seemingly no where. I've seen people celebrate a naked woman being dragged through the street and spat on. It had over 2,000 notes.

I've seen someone say that if "Hitler had finished the job then none of this would be happening. They should have all rotted in the gas chambers".

I've seen people saying most Israelis are landlords in NYC so they can just go back there.

I've seen people saying that "I can't even believe this needs to be said but I don't trust most Jews."

I've seen people say "All the trash humans tend to tag Jumblr".

I've seen people calling dead Israeli children "settler babies".

I've seen people openly espouse nazi rhetoric like "Jews were kicked out of sooo many countries and I'm beginning to see why!" or "Jews were kicked out of Europe for usury!".

I've seen people (mostly white western gentiles) say they hope every single Israeli is killed and dies horribly.

I've seen straight up blood libel.

I've seen people shouting "GO BACK TO POLAND" as if there is a Jewish Poland to return to. 90% of Polish Jews were wiped out and the few that weren't had their homes stolen or were murdered after trying to get their house back.

I've seen people spreading anti porn shit and saying "Da joos11! are behind misogyny and every bad thing to ever happen in the porn industry!11".

I've even seen people saying the Shoah was a plot by the Rothschilds.

And this is just what I've seen ONLINE. I didn't even mention the actual physical attacks on synagogues and other Jewish places. Which has been happening ever since this started.

If I had to list every single antisemitic shit I've seen just these past few months, I'd be writing a whole fucking novel.

"the holocaust is important to remember, particularly because of zionist response to pro-palestine protests and response."

Ah yes. We should particularly remember the Shoah because of zionists. Not because it was a horrific scar on Jewish history but because it can be used for political points right?

And hey; zionists use the Shoah for that too sometimes. But I expect better from people who claim to be compassionate and reasonable.

Lastly, I'd just like to say that this kind of shit is what happens BEFORE there is a large scale attack on Jewish people. Do you want us to wait until after it happens to declare it a "historic rise in antisemitism?"

*EDIT* Oh fuck I forgot to mention that protest in Australia with people shouting "GAS THE JEWS, GAS THE JEWS"

dawg are u a zionist bc the holocaust rememberance day post was riddled w zionist apologism

What part of that post was zionist apologism? The only part I can think of is that Yom Ha'Shoah was created by Israel.

I still observe the day bc it's also on the date of the camp uprising.

[rowanthestrange]

I think the intended theme of Kerblam was hugely overshadowed by the fact that the episode didn't address that Kerblam didn't even try to keep their workers safe. The main issue I found was that the scene at the end implied the murders couldn't have been prevented without the doctor's expertise. A responsible employer would have supended work until the power drains were fixed (I'm assuming that's why any security systems were down allowing charlie to escape notice)

*hides face in hands*

You’re right. You are - my expression is not…oh it’s not for you.

I mean I’m not sure there was a set intended theme, it was bothsided to hell, but yeah, definitely…there was definitely an issue there with it not actually addressing anything.

*leans back*

The power drains were - in my understanding - because of both Terrorist Boy messing around with the system, but far more importantly, was because the system itself was trying to channel a lot of energy into one place. The power-drain that occurs when the bot tries to kill him for example.

It isn’t clear. How much of it is under the system’s control is not explored.

Leading neatly to your next point - the system needs the Doctor’s expertise.

Why?

It would have succeeded in killing Terrorist Boy had it been smarter about it. Not done it around people. Sure maybe it’s trying to basically scream ‘He’s the bad guy!’ but that’s not obvious, nor apparently necessary, because kill him and there’s no backup, no deadman’s handle, you’re done. Statistically the guy has been alone at some point, and there were no ‘we cannot murder’ rules implied, so off you go chums.

Maybe the robots didn’t want to murder him - a good theme that would have tied perfectly into both the terrorism and the themes being built in this series, and does work with them knowing the Doctor would stop it.

But that didn’t happen. I just made that up. None of this stuff was explained, nothing addressed. The roots for this episode are so good and go nowhere.

Explain why they don’t care about power outages in a 90% automated factory. Use it for character development with the woman - she doesn’t care and is lighthearted about it because she’s in people, while the rest of the company is having kittens - because that is a big deal and everyone would have noticed.

And this place clearly can’t just shut down for a month, are you joking?! Unless you’re playing a Bad Wolf Satellite Whatever with this, the consequences would be absolutely huge. Space Amazon shuts down, only gives its workers half that time off as paid leave, and it’s clearly the backbone of the Kandokan economy, that’s on last legs enough that Kira’s never got a goddamn Amazon delivery in her life, but also where six year olds print metal pendants for their Daddies.

And if you still want to do all this, then make it a goddamn point that THIS IS WHY YOU NEED PEOPLE. Not in meaningless goddamn packing, but that if you had PEOPLE paying close attention, they would have been more likely to catch the flaws in the system, or notice it being abused and be able to act on it. Slade was clearly useless - cut that character, he’s only a red herring anyway, and use all that time and energy to give us context with the robots.

Warning From The Future: This fix-it got long

But if I’m allowed to make changes, just off the top of my head, I axe Kira too. Don’t kill off Lee Mack (no I’m not gonna learn the character’s name) so quickly, and then you already have a ‘human’ element in the plot and he fits it well. Kira only exists for man-pain and to humanise Terrorist Boy - which you’re already doing with Graham (Their scenes should have been much the same, but highlighting some extremist tendencies - particularly his odd choice of referring to the system as He - and clearly indicating that no-one talks to this kid enough to see them). Also fewer humans would help sell this idea of the 90-10% thing. Swap team positions - the Doctor goes down and meets Mack (because she’s already sympathetic to the robots so needs to become less so, and this leads to lots of little opportunities to dig at Amazon, capitalism, workers rights etc), and Yaz and Ryan are on packing. It gives Ryan a chance to be good at something in front of Yaz for a change, lets Yaz do some competent police work that actually goes somewhere (seriously McTighe), and Ryan we’ve seen be sceptical but sweet before with the baby situation, so therefore he takes notice of the robots (because he needs to be more sympathetic to them and is a better audience avatar). The combination of him being emotionally intelligent, and Yaz cognitively intelligent, means they work out the origin of the ‘Help Me’ which also fits the fact that Yaz was the only one to notice the message at all. Meanwhile, the Doctor and Mack are facing robot villains. Hmm that’s weird. They run to find each other, Yaz and Thirteen probably doing the grabbing each others forearms thing, and say at the same time “The robots are trying to kill us” “The robots are asking for help”, look at each other in confusion, and that’s when Graham and Terrorist Boy (foreshadowing) show up with the maps. Woman (don’t remember if she had a name, sorry) can show up again, having done some digging and phoning around (she uses a large phone, not a large tablet), and has found the people never made it back home. She’s panicking, the Doctor still gets her ‘If you are lying to me’ moment, etc. etc. things progress, plot as before, but instead of losing Kira, we lose Mack - pendant left behind. In trying to find him, the tracker lures Yaz and Ryan away from the others (Terrorist Boy’s intent was to get everyone, but that’s this Scooby-Doo team for you with the splitting up). Ryan is the one that nearly gets blown to bits by the bubble-wrap because of course he does, his defining character trait is to effing touch everything. Terrorist Boy gives himself away by legging it as Ryan moves to grab it, and Yaz saves him, cus she has good instincts and reflexes. Maybe a robot then says “Would you like me to dispose of this an an environmentally conscious way” - subtext layers, and at a safe distance, pops it - the system showing what damage it can do. This also acts as a set-up for the scene with the robots exploding it later, and makes it look less like the Doctor committing mass robo-murder (and prevents the robots from having to be deliberate murderers themselves). Doctor having got Twirly etc. hijacks a bot teleporter, and with the Woman and Graham finds the soup, etc. etc. same as before. That Terrorist Boy pegged it before, makes sense as to why Yaz didn’t catch him and restrain him, and everyone meets up again. This time though, we have some space. Have the Doctor excitedly (almost obscenely) working things out, while Graham explains the soup - clearly ruffled, and Yaz gets the Woman to bring up the details of Lee Mack’s family. If there’s thirty seconds to spend on how she’s had to call in a lot of dead bodies but never explain it to people’s families, do it now, leave her staring at the phone. Doctor comes to her excited conclusion, and the Terrorist Boy suddenly shows up threatening people with a detonator. Yaz stands (she looks extra shaken), but she’s behind, clearly looks to the Doctor who takes charge (characterisation, shows where she sees herself and her trust in the Doctor, and explains why she isn’t more active yet). Scene, scene, etc, etc, all the bullshit about millennials = bad obviously removed, Graham actually gets most of the attempted calming lines, and it nearly works. But as it fails, the Doctor gets in with him “Killing the people he was supposed to be trying to save”, that to him the people are no more real than the robots - oh no? Prove it. Grabs the phone from Yaz’s hand, which is still on, turns the volume up, and forces him to listen to the six year old asking for her Daddy and telling him to stop being silly. It’s almost on the edge of cruelty, and we see that glimmer in her eyes again. It doesn’t work. It’s his plan, his vision, he’s going to be the one to take control, he he he. But it’s not funny. It’s all about him and his power fantasy, and that becomes increasingly clear the longer you let him talk. (Him stomping on the device is more explicitly visually framed as a mirror for the Doctor doing the same for the neo-neo-nazi’s Vortex Manipulator, but it isn’t explained, just complex forshadowing for the Doctor’s monster breakdown later). Yaz never grabs for him and fails, we just go straight to him running into the bots - maybe standing on the balcony railing first to get a proper little-hitler shot above his tin soldiers, then jumping down to hide among them. But as before, the Doctor doesn’t stop him getting blown to pieces. At the end, the need for more humans to manage the system and particularly to work with each other is noticed, and that’s what the human positions should be for - what humans are good at, noticing patterns and each other. There’s no ‘lol Graham what are you like’ moment in the TARDIS, it’s just Yaz’s feeling of failure as a Police Officer shining unspoken in her eyes, and her request to go see the daughter personally being honoured, while Graham is drinking a cup of tea and watching Ryan intently (clearly been hammered by events, but taking comfort in his own odd-but-blessedly-harmless boy), while Ryan pokes and prods at Twirly, whom apparently they never actually gave back. And it ends with the Doctor once again being rebuffed as company, Yaz leaving the TARDIS, kid’s necklace in hand, and walking into a room across the camera - the Kerblam! poster with Mack’s face on the wall behind her.

I’ve only watched the episode once, and I don’t have a transcript to refer to yet, so might be missing some pieces, but broadly speaking.

And I appreciate that the Kira scene and the ‘You had a plan, but you weren’t expecting to fall in love’ is almost certainly meant to be a Direct Mirror for a future scene with The Doctor and Yaz, but without Chibnall over my shoulder and saying that has to be in there, the transition to the concept of general filial/agape love works for me.

Apologies. Bit longer than I expected. I just started writing and it kept flowing. Apparently I did have some concrete ideas about how to fix it. Sorry, wow.