#it might be like the whole 'use the closest relation' thing tho where it technically counts but no one really cares

[kresnikcest]

i derailed the discussion so answering this here @li-esonthefloor

man that basically requires a world without the trial but where ludger still exists... bc even if they got together independent of ludger meeting another elle, even if ludger's identity was never a problem (ex. he doesn't have a chromatus and claudia never went into hiding over it), lara's family is still a part of the kresnik clan and it'd probably become known if elle had a chromatus watch (and all keys of kresnik are also chromatus bearers)... unless she wasn't the key and didn't have a chromatus at all?

(although now i've distracted myself thinking of a world where ludger is born without a chromatus watch. would bisley still care about him? he presumably did love claudia, though idk if he would have been up for marrying her considering how it'd look outside of their family. would julius still love ludger eventually? i can see julius having a sort of petty superiority thing since ludger doesn't have a chromatus at all, but if bisley actually treated ludger well for claudia's sake then julius would probably still be jealous. plus there's the part where claudia is effectively raising both julius and ludger but, well, ludger is "actually" her child even though she looked after julius first. ludger i think would still admire julius a lot though. and that doesn't get into any potential wider family politics/drama over bisley having sons who are cousins and if he marries claudia, stepbrothers? (does that get cancelled out by them truthfully being half-brothers too? can you be both half-siblings and stepsiblings? i need to google.)

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NINJAMUFFIN DOING ANOTHER AMA ON TWITTER, HERE'S MORE SHIT FOR YA! keep in mind i'm just sharing the funkin related stuff, though i am including WAAAAY more than what i shared before 👍 go check out ninja's twitter profile for questions about stuff like ritz! questions in blue, answers in orange. if yall don't wanna read everything i MIGHT make a version of this post where i replace the answers with my own summaries of em (and if the questions are long, those too)

and here's a link to the ama tweet itself! dunno if it's still goin

Q: I figure the answer will be yes but do you have more plans to implement more guest appearances from people in the newgrounds community into FNF? Or are you all gunna focus on OG lore and stuff going forward

A: for guest appearances, I think we have always seen it as getting a healthy mix of both. PERSONALLY I'd like to lean towards having more OG stuff than guest stuff, BUT it's all a matter of what other boys think of that as well. I'm not the sole person working on game!

Q: Are you gonna release the full FNF game or are you gonna be releasing week after week? Like, are you gonna release week 8 or are we gonna wait some years until The Full Ass Game comes out?

A: Release plan for FNF right now is a few more updates or whatev to the 'demo' we have out right now, and then a long silence of probably no updates whatsoever until the full game is done (which will likely be a few years). That's partly why we made kickstarter for game.

Q: Hey so like, how much will Fnf cost after it's finished? And when will you ask the supporters what they want the game on?

A: It's all subject to change, but right now it prob gonna be standard 15-25$ lil steam indie game.

We will ask Kickstarter pledgers and whatnot what they want the game on SUPER close to when its released, to keep options open if we get onto anything like a console people want.

Q: 1. how was your day

2. are you releasing a week 8 song early like week 7, or are you goin full lockdown

A: I am doing GOOD today, and I think recently I've been good in general.

up to the mood, but so far we doing good about not having anything leak or whatev, so I think it'd be fun to have update come out with people not knowing what to expect at all. Build dat intrigue

Q: Will fnf ever get official plushies?? Seems like an untapped market

A: FNF plushies will prob happen some point, we have a lot of current merch stuff on our plates already though! (Mostly kickstarter type stuff, shirts, pins, posters, and all the physical OST stuff) Its a lot to sort out, but in time more and more stuff will happen. We r jus 4 boys!

Q: did you ever expect your game to blow up as it did? what was your first reaction to seeing it become super popular

A: FNF never had a humble moment, literally day 1 before the prototype even came out, the vid on twitter had like 5K likes overnight. Then when ludum dare version came out, it got 5K likes again, like it wasnt just a fluke. Was crazy, and def felt like somethin was different wit FNF

Q: Do you plan on getting other people to come in to help with the music? That seems like a lot of work to dump on one person, what with the erect mode and whatnot.

I guess the question could apply to all aspects of development. Will you be bringing on more people to help?

A: We definitely are getting help from other people. We are always keeping an eye on people for various different things. In terms of programming, already I've gotten 2 people (MtH and Geokureli) to help with certain Week 7 stuff (charting/polish, and loading stuff). Shit like dat

Q: Oh, also, will the Steam version be Workshop compatible? That'd really help streamline the process of downloading mods.

A: Steam version of FNF will likely NOT be Steam workshop compatible, because we want all the mods to NOT be spread out through different places. There WILL be modding support that is as streamlined as Steam workshop though. Mainly for non-steam versions of the game!

Q: Are there any chances that the game will have a physical release? Also any updates on a switch port? I remember one of you guys talking/joking about it.

A: Not impossible for FNF to get a physical release. We would want to see how far we could go with it though. I think it'd be super easy to do something wit people like LimitedRun games or whatev, but I think stuff like that can only go so far. I wanna see Funkin in mf Walmart!!!!!!

not that LimitedRun isn't going to be an option! Just we consider and pursue many different things! FNF release is years away, so we have time to think about everything. Whole mindset can be different just a few months from now.

Q: Out of curiosity, how are you dealing with all the popularity? It blew up so fast id barely be able to handle it if I was in your shoes.

A: The only way I've been able to handle it is having the other boys on the crew and being able to talk to them about all the overwhelmingness.

Part of it feels very lonesome, feels like NO ONE can come close to comprehending exactly how I'm feeling, except them. also other PALS!!!

Q: Do you own any of the bootleg FNF merchandise? Like any bootleg plushies or anything?

A: i dont, i genuinely think they r a waste of money, and I know any bootleg shit that gets made, we can prob go about and make it, and make it 100x cooler because we actually put effort into shit. bootleg shit just in it for the coin, so they aint gettin that from me

Q: How did you go about getting in contact with sr pelo for skid and pumps vocals?

A: Pelo i think was familiar and pals wit PhantomArcade a bit thru various Newgrounds things and collabs and whatnot.

pelo retweeted the first OG FNF posts first ever, and brought a LOT of attention to it. to pay him back, we put skid and pump in game! ask dave for more info prob

Q: what's the plan for having the full ass game open source if it's gonna cost money? couldn't people just download the source and compile the game for free?

A: when FNF is fully released, the full source code will be released as well.

the game will be DRM free so it will be way easier for people to redistribute the released/offical .exe instead of compiling it, so that's not the issue anyways. people will pay for things if they like it

Q: What are the chances of it getting on consoles like switch or Playstation, ps5 would definitely be my preferred way to play

A: it'd be a matter of hiring someone to build out backend stuff for those specific consoles. someone who knows their way around all the wacky code stuff, AND knows console hardware stuff. Then its just a matter of hittin up those console manufacturers (Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo)

the CLOSEST one is SWITCH. pretty much all of that backend is already made, so it just a matter of gettin all that access and shit.

i think in any case though, there's a lot of NDA stuff required, i dunno how much we'd be able to talk about it even IF we get that stuf sorted

Q: any ideas of releasing it on epic store or another platform?

A: Right now, the only thing that is 100% confirmed and WILL happen is a Steam version, itchio version, and mobile versions on respective app stores. Other storefronts aren't out of the picture though, but we don't want to spread ourselves too thin with it.

Q: Will you continue using HaxeFlixel to make the rest of FNF?

A: yes, because it is what I'm the most technically proficient in, and generally is VERY flexible. just a matter of ME becoming a better coder. It's ALL open source, so if I need something done a certain way, either I can do it, or we can hire someone to do it.

Q: have you seen game theory's videos on your game yet and if so, what do you think about them? (not talking about his predictions because i dont want spoilers. i like mystery)

A: it is always good silly fun to watch the Game Theory vids about Funkin with some pals, and see what matpat thinks of the game. i lov the vids, but wish he used my face less! Or at least used a cuter pic of me like this one!!

Q: Ok so: What does the future of FNF look like to you?

A: future of FNF is a rhythm game that not only exceeds every expectation that people have of it, but subverts most expectations and conventions as well.

Q: Do you plan on retouching on older weeks once the game is fully out? Like reanimating sprites, redoing some charting, updating the background, etc

A: retouching and probably overhauling certain aspects is almost definitely gonna happen. Everything is fluid and can be changed (and should be changed when necessary). i dont think anything should be too attached to, especially this early on in development

Q: I honestly do not care if the answer to this is vague as hell to keep surprises and shit lol but… Since Week 7 was the closest we’ll get to a playable girlfriend (still bf controlling tho), do you have plans to make girlfriend playable in spin-off things or just freeplay?

A: wouldnt be out of the picture for a playable GF, i don't think we've had some hard thing AGAINST it. just a matter of what we want out of the game, and what sort of story or whatev we could do with that concept

Q: How do BF and GF manage to meet famous newgrounds characters (such as pico, tankman and the others to come) like is this all in one universe/ timeline or are they being brought in?

A: i think they are all just there existing. i think there's a lot of wacky things in other media that try to justify crossovers, like MULTIVERSE bullshit or TIMELINE shit, but i dunno, its like subspace emissary. Captain Falcon and Olimar from Pikmin just hang out. Shit like dat

disclaimer that all lore shit is in phantomarcade head pretty much and maybe there is wacky dimensions or somethin

Q: Will the game have dlc?

A: its not too unlikely that we'd have expansions of some sort, but i mean right now we plan on packing in as much as we can into base game, and trying to make that as pure as possible.

if there is ANY dlc, i would personally want it to be 100% free updates

Q: How did you meet Phantom Arcade, Kawai Sprite, and EvilSker? And what do you think about the community and its controversies?

A: me and phantomarcade been fukin around NG for years so years and years ago we naturally crossed paths and became pals

about 2 years ago i found kawaisprites music on NG, and started talkin wit him, made Ritz wit him and we fell in lov

and evilsk8r i met cuz of FNF!!!

quik elaborate on evilsk8r, wanted artist for gamejam FNF was for (ludum dare), and OG person i asked wasnt available, so he referred me to evilsk8r, who I have never met or talked to before ever.

[elysianblessing-old]

Aspen Delia Abbas

An OC tag game :P Thank u @kcuppossibilites for tagging me!

I’m gogna.. do aspen.. so.. :3

Personal

* 1)      Age?

22!

* 2)      Gender?

Trans male!

* 3)      Romantic/Sexual Orientation?

Panromantic-demisexual

* 4)      Height?

5’0

* 5)      Race?

Saudi-American

* 6)      What do they look like? (i.e, hair color, eye color, etc).

Aspen is pretty short and skinny for his age; he has curly brown hair, tan skin, and light purple eyes. Aaaand that’s where my skill in describing people ends.

* 7)      Any disabilities?

Social/general anxiety, PTSD, autism, and depression

* 8)      Is there a meaning to their name?

Technically yeah? But Aspen only means “aspen tree”

* 9)      What makes them, them? 

Aspen’s a very caring and passionate person. He can be shy, but he loves his friends with his whole heart and would do anything he can to help them. He loves his cat, and he loves his job - partly because it relates to his biggest special interest!

* 10)   What do they want to be when they grow up/what do they want to do with their lives?

He has a job - he’s a forensic science tech! And he’s pretty happy with it!

Family

* 11)   Do they have parents? What are they like and how do they act with their child(ren)?

He does! Well, a mom. He has a dad, but he’s, uh. Not good. And in jail. His mom, though, is great! Her name is Crysanthe, and she loves her kids with her whole heart. She’s kind and caring as Aspen - his friends joke a lot that he took after her - and she’s incredibly soft spoken.

* 12)   Do they have siblings? How do they interact with them? If not, do they wish they had siblings?

Yup - three! Barden, Lucan, and Adelaide - He gets along with them fairly well, but they all interact in pretty different ways. Barden is a little more serious and soft spoken, and more often than not, he and Aspen mostly just go for walks and talk.

Lucan is more high-energy and excitable, and they tend to do a loot - usually Lucan just drags him out different places with her,

Adelaide is younger; she’s still in high school, and more often than not he and her just go out to eat and such and talk (though he tends to help her with biology homework a lot).

* 13)   Extended family? Do they see them often?

Eeeeh, depends. Not *technically* family? But family friends who might as well be - Kaiya Ayame, Quinn Bearn, and Elias Ayame-Bearn. Kaiya and Quinn are girlfriends, childhood friends of Crysanthe’s; and they’re like aunts to Aspen and his siblings. Elias is their adopted child, who Aspen and his siblings see as a cousin - and he sees them a lot!

* 14)   Do they like where they live? (Is it a safe place?)

Yes! He lives in a fairly safe, well-off neighborhood - a pretty nice house, too.

* 15)   Where do they live? Are they wealthy? Poor? Middle-Class?

Upper-middle class, in Dallas, Texas!

* 16)   Do they have a lot of expectations/pressure on them from family to do great?

Nope! His mom does want for him to do well, but she doesn’t mind at all as long as he’s safe, taken care of, and happy.

* 17)   Do they have pets?

Yea! An orange ragamuffin cat named Queenie! (He loves her)

* 18)   Who do they look up to the most/are the closest to in their family?

He looks up to Quinn and his mom the most - though he’s closest to Lucan.

* 19)  Is there anything special about their family?

Well, they’re half-demon, so.

* 20)   Do they wish they lived in a different family/household?

When he was younger, but now that things have gotten better - not at *all.*

Friends

* 21)   Best Friend(s)?

Circe Tenebris, Salem Tenebris, and a boy he knows named Lukas! :3c

* 22)   Who was their first friend?

A person he met in high school named Robin.

* 23)   What is their friend group like?

Uhhh. Chaos incarnate mostly.

* 24)   Do they have a love/hate relationship with any of them?

Not really!

* 25)   Do they consider any of their friends to be like siblings?

Yes! All of them!

* 26)   Have they ever hurt a friend or lost one?

He has hurt a couple friends in the past, though they made up - and he has lost a few.

* 27)   Do they have a crush on any of their friends?

Nnnno

* 28)   Do they share classes with good friends?

He’s out of school!

* 29)   Whom do they go to the most when they need a shoulder to cry on?

Probably Circe, Lucan, or Lukas.

* 30)   What would this person do without their friends in their lives?

He’d probably be way worse off. He wouldn’t talk to many people, or leave his house much aside from work or other necessary things. Basically, a depressed, anxious mess.

School

* 31)   What grade are they in? If they aren’t in school, how come?

Adult!

* 32)   Do/Did they like their teachers? Was there a good one? Bad one?

He didn’t get along with many teachers, but he liked a few!

* 33)   Do/Did they listen to their teachers or are/were they goofing off a lot?

It depended - sometimes he could be a major jokester, but others he was quiet and obedient as could be.

 * 34)   Are/Were they a good student grade wise?

Yes! Mostly Bs and As. (Save for math)

* 35)   Do/Did they need extra help?

Only with math, really.

* 36)   What is/was their school like?

Eeeeh. Most of the staff were okay, but others were very.. bad. The students depended as well; most were fine, others were nice as could be, and others were terrible.

* 37)   Do/Did they have bullies in school?

Jesus Christ yeaaaaah.

* 38)   Have they ever gotten into a fight at school?

Yeah, once or twice when somebody was hurting a friend.

* 39)   Have they ever done something stupid/embarrassing at school?

Yes! Many times. Mostly panic attacks or just misspeaks.

* 40)   How far do they plan to go with school? If they dropped out, do they want to go back?

He’s already done as much as he wants to!

Other

* 41)   Are they dating anyone? Do they want to date? Are they married? Divorced? 

Not dating; but he wants to! (* cough cough * if anyone maybe wants to uh talk about that)

* 42)   What is their favorite hobby? Do they keep it a secret?

His main hobby is art; though he also likes playing the guitar! And dancing (but he’s not too good at that). (He also considered forensics to be a hobby.)

* 43)   If they could have one thing in life, what would it be?

A normal, healthy childhood.

* 44)   Do they work? If so, what is it? If not, are they looking for one or even want one?

Forensic science technician!

* 45)   Do they use social media?

Yea! Tumblr, Instagram, and Snapchat - tho he uses Tumblr he most.

* 46)   Have they ever been in the hospital?

Eeeyup. Bad panic attacks, hypoglycemic episodes, and many other things.

* 47)   Do they believe in the supernatural, that there is more than the eye can see?

He is part of the supernatural and so are most of his friends so yes.

* 48)   What do they do when they get angry, stressed, or upset?

He usually goes very quiet and shuts down, but if he’s pushed past that he either snaps in an angry outburst or has a meltdown.

* 49)   Would they consider themselves as a good person, bad person, or morally grey?

Morally grey, leaning more towards good.

* 50)   Does this OC have any part of you in them? (I.e, personality traits, similar background, etc)

Haha yeah. Personality traits, interests, and similar background.

And uhhh.. @vt-theory-machine, @flameshell, and .. anyone else who wants to cus I can’t think of anyone else who has any OCs—