#also im sorry i keep pinging you idk how actively you check your dash so *pings*

[kresnikcest]

i derailed the discussion so answering this here @li-esonthefloor

man that basically requires a world without the trial but where ludger still exists... bc even if they got together independent of ludger meeting another elle, even if ludger's identity was never a problem (ex. he doesn't have a chromatus and claudia never went into hiding over it), lara's family is still a part of the kresnik clan and it'd probably become known if elle had a chromatus watch (and all keys of kresnik are also chromatus bearers)... unless she wasn't the key and didn't have a chromatus at all?

(although now i've distracted myself thinking of a world where ludger is born without a chromatus watch. would bisley still care about him? he presumably did love claudia, though idk if he would have been up for marrying her considering how it'd look outside of their family. would julius still love ludger eventually? i can see julius having a sort of petty superiority thing since ludger doesn't have a chromatus at all, but if bisley actually treated ludger well for claudia's sake then julius would probably still be jealous. plus there's the part where claudia is effectively raising both julius and ludger but, well, ludger is "actually" her child even though she looked after julius first. ludger i think would still admire julius a lot though. and that doesn't get into any potential wider family politics/drama over bisley having sons who are cousins and if he marries claudia, stepbrothers? (does that get cancelled out by them truthfully being half-brothers too? can you be both half-siblings and stepsiblings? i need to google.)