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#it helps that they're both VNs/point and clicks where you solve murders and such. it's hard not to compare em really
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Games that I like and how they handle racism
Virgin Great Ace Attorney Chronicles vs CHAD Disco Elysium
#vu's posts
#tgaa
#disco elysium
#i've been thinking about this for a while lol
#my fixation before de was tgaa so. i'm bound to make comparisons
#it helps that they're both VNs/point and clicks where you solve murders and such. it's hard not to compare em really
#no but yeah i adore tgaa but WOW is the handling of the racism just. terrible
#it's literally a shallow 'oh we're all people at the end of the day' thing. it's literally so insulting tbh
#it's more frustrating since the writing is otherwise incredible imo!
#also frustrating since it plagues my favorite character grrrrr
#(and yes i mean van zieks <3)
#he's so well written and it's just this one aspect of his character that's just so terribly done!
#they could've just made him racist because of his time period or w/e. but as is his racism is tied to his trauma??
#plus he NEVER faces consequences for his racism. hell KAZUMA never even calls him out on it and he HATES bvz like?
#also doesn't help that ryuu (the victim of most of the racism) kinda just... lets it slide for the most part
#esp once he finds out why van zieks is racist he's just like 'oh that's understandable actually. ur racism is justified here' like no!
#meanwhile disco handles the topic with the nuance that it needs to be given yknow?
#also it very clearly frames the constant racism that kim puts up with as something that Affects Him
#and plus he doesn't just take it! he's a super composed guy but you can clearly tell how uncomfortable he is-
#when ppl around him are throwing around racist bs
#and plus despite being a very composed person he DOES snap at someone at least once in canon over it
#(e.g. the ''don't you welcome to revachol' me' bit... which btw i will never be normal about <3)
#(honorable mention to his 'i feel less bad for breaking in here now' bit when you go into the cryptofascist guy's apartment-
#after he sees the racist mugs. he was so right for that fr)
#ALSO back to my earlier point about it clearly affecting him. i feel like he does have some like. idk internalized racism?
#like his whole thing with being proud to be a native to revachol and being proud that he never met his seolite grandparents
#like MAYBE you could read that as him just really caring about his home city. but it also reads like internalized racism to me
#ANYWAYS there's more i could say here but you get the point
#tgaa racism themes are badly written while de racism themes are well written
#va4 rambles in the tags
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