#it happens to me too when im having an epic ptsd moment and people just dont Get It cuz its not really a common experience
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sukifoof · 2 years ago
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YEAH EXACTLY U GET IT!! like her whole character is a foil to asriel and they both set up the themes of the game like. forgiving yourself for things out of your control and allowing yourself to move on. to escape the cycle of self imposed imprisonment out of guilt and to be able to set up healthy boundaries. how badly grief can mess with someones head and sense of self. she's such a well written character and it's bizarre to me when people completely ignore that because they view her character through the lense of Mom Or Wife Who Could Have Saved Everything. that's the Thing no one person is responsible for someone else's actions that's the whole Point. even flowey himself says he thought that she would be the one person who could help him but the only person who can really change how he feels is himself. he has to accept what has happened and that he wasn't in control of chara's actions. all of the dreemurrs are extremely traumatized and i feel like a lot of the misunderstandings when it comes to them and the way they act is because everyone experiences grief in different ways and it might not exactly be easy to understand why those characters act the way they do if you haven't personally lost someone in those ways. that's what i really love about undertale it's such a good way to show how to love and accept others with experiences u might not understand BUT anyway yeah toriel and asriel best characters. i love them they are so well written
i feel like toriel's character is really commonly like. reduced to either Perfect Mom or Evil Woman when it's so much more interesting to look at how her trauma has affected her... toby is extremely good at writing trauma and flawed characters and a lot of people look at his work in a black and white way unfortunately. anyway toriel is one of The Best Characters Ever. i really wish her relationship with flowey was explored more cuz he seems to be so frustrated with both of his parents but he especially cares for toriel, yet the way he views her and talks about her makes him seem like he feels betrayed... or maybe he doesn't understand why she bothers caring for humans when it just gets her hurt in the end... they both have a lot of Projection Issues and i love that toriel says she needs proof that you're strong enough to survive. Because Asriel Wasn't. Her Other Kids Weren't. and then and THEN flowey does the Same Thing. they both just want everyone to be safe and alive and loved. and i really Really like how her fight parallels to asriel's fight where neither of them want to let their child/friend go again but they come to terms with it and forgive themselves... "you can't regret hard choices your whole life" is one of the quotes that Gets Me cuz it's just so perfect for everyone character in this game. do u get it do u see what i mean shes so interesting (explodes)
tldr toriel is one of the best characters in anything ever and i need her to be appreciated immediately 💖
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youve-doomed-us-all-jerk · 6 years ago
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hmm now that ive had a few hours to digest endgame, heres some spoiler thoughts ive been running thru my head since i watched
again just to be clear spoilers under the cut:
hmmm movie kinda paid thor and hulk dust this one lmao dont get me wrong they have their badass and emotional moments but, and this isnt a dunk on ragnarok or taika its more a dunk on the russos and probably the like fandom analyst  who said "hey everyone loved them being funny in ragnarok that means we have to turn that up" yeah they're kinda comedic relief here mostly, with a good chunk of their moments which are supposed to be emotional like treated as or ending in a joke
felt like that was a lot of the movie anyway imho, a lot of emotional moments were interrupted for the sake of a joke cuz we werent allowed to feel too much cuz marvel thinks that'd be a bummer
dont get me wrong tho there are genuinely sincere and emotional moments but they r too far and in between and mostly they r the moments that focus on pain and death :V
back to thor if u uhh are not a fan of where they took him hammerwise in IW then u wont be here either cuz they take it further lmao
Also cap marvel is supposedly the new face of the franchise going forward she wasnt really there a lot
tbh treating her like how a lot of teamup media treats superman so i feel for CM fans, they def show how powerful she is but here shes more of an obstacle or really quick plot resolver that they need to conveniently write away until the final act lmao
But there was this sick sequence with her and a bunch of the other female heroes, was p cool
time travel aspect was kinda uh idk maybe it just flew over my head, didnt get it much lmao like they did and kept a lot of things that conflict with the continuity after everything was done like huh
Lots of cool and sweet moments tho, fanservice for every one who's been here since 2008
what happened to BW after finding she has a movie on the way is lmao, quite a trade off huh u finally get ur origin movie but current timeline u is :V
also time for some salty dc movie time but lmaooo how yall gonna keep making jokes about the martha ptsd scene in dawn of justice when this is the second time steves bucky name ptsd has been used against him, oh right cuz this universe treats his ptsd like a weakness rather than something that humanizes the character
also felt like nebula never got a proper conclusion to her arc with thanos and everything hes done to her, with gamora maybe but not with thanos
final act happens as ud expect but whoo boy its p good tbh, some surprises and cool war sequences makes it p damn dare i say epic, it rivals aquaman on 3rd act epicness there i said it
hmm not the biggest IM fan but did feel a lil something when it happened to him, especially with the callback to IM1, started with him ends with him then yeah
can already tell the epilogue for the big three will be super divisive
the idea of j*mes g**n handling thor tho makes me uncomfy
I was for sure thinking the big three were going to die to make the stakes of IW idk feel less cheap but they didnt n yeah it does cheapen it imho :V
steves ending, idk i dont have any strong feelings on it, maybe im leaning towards im ok with it and maybe he deserves it but yeah not a devout CA fan so idk if its breaking some important characterization of his cuz i see some fans r indeed upset by it :V but like didnt peggy have a husband and kids, r they just gone now or is it like that paradox thing where it was him this whole time
my overall feel for the movie is, its entertaining and does feel like the end of a saga, its mostly about the characters more than anything else narrative n thematic wise leave it at that¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i guess most of this comes off as negative lmao but just know these r all just things that dont jive with me personally cuz will admit my tastes dont lean much towards this kinda stuff cuz im a werido im weird have u ever seen m-, but if urs does im sure ull love the movie or continue to love the movie like a buncha people clapped in the theater at a lot of moments so im p sure the majority will love it like u and thats p cool
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hdawg1995 · 8 years ago
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DnD Antics: we got 20 nat20s today.
im just... what even.... i got 3 in a row and even switched dice.... so did coolie... all our dice have past the floating in salt water test i don’t...
okay so- i’ll be honest i can’t get over the nat20s and i don’t feel like going thought all 20 so just... yeah... 
okay so first thing everyone did was go off and do stuff. it was kinda hectic so i couldn’t pick up everything but i do know that new guy itaka asked Envoy to come with him to gather materials. Spine tagged along cause he was following Envoy and neffestia tagged as well.
Spine: *turns into neff* neff:....*turns into Spine* Envoy:.....ME NEXT! DO ME DO ME DO ME! Spine: *turns into envoy* neff: *also turns into envoy* Itaka:......what in the name of slyther- Envoy, Neff, and Spine as they all ride the Yak: TALLY HOOOOO!
the yak fell into a spike trap that Spine recognized and realized... we had a problem....
Spine: who told you where to get this material??? Itaka: oh! the nice witcher who yelled at me and Elizander! Spine: *face palm* oh my God you’re all idiots...
turns out were in lizardman (Salamander) territory. the Plan: act as Spine’s slaves to avoid suspicion. however a bardic knowledge check reveals a lot of stuff that isn’t good for anyone involved. Spine’s new shapeshifting ability comes in handy!
Envoy: *after relaying all her bardic knowledge* Itaka. James: i NEED these materials. me: no, you need your LIFE. Envoy: itaka, how much is your life worth? Itaka: *legit has to think about this*
we go with the plan anyway. Spine and neff look like slamanders and me and Itaka are the slaves. everything is going well- we even avoid a possible feeding frenzy (Envoy is forever scared). once inside the mine its all good but we gatta keep the act up just incase. we get LOADS of stuff we need and-
Salamander warden: Leader wants to see everyone. the black hand are getting too strong. we need more slaves. Spine: I will watch the slaves. make sure they mine. important materials. Slamander warden: good thinking! *fire whips Envoy* WORK FASTER! Envoy: *don’t scream dont scream dont scream dont screa- Itaka: *gets a nat1 and pick axes Envoy in the back in the same spot* Envoy: *DONT F***ING SCREAM* (envoy is forever scared... literally..)
we get out of there and back onto the air ship. vale makes healing arrows with some crystals we got from the cave, one of Envoy’s feathers, and mana worm shafts. Spine tries to comfort Envoy about all this cause shes extra hella silent by getting her something to do to take her mind off all this.
gorthax has a sheild and a sword now!
when everyone is reunited Envoy goes into the pokeball, lays down on the couch, breaths.....and then screams her head off. for like. hours. Neff also cast an amplifying spell on her so that was fun for everyone in the pokeball.
also while all this is happening Elizander gets his moment. the grindl brood mother is found. Elizander goes into kill mode. it was terrifying but epic. he kills so many grindles like omg at one point the DM was just like ‘yup its dead. that one too. that one is still-no never mind... yeah there dead....’ and he stabbed the bodies cause poor eli has PTSD like crazy. HE FINALLY KILLED SOMETHING THO! that was the running joke for a while, that he never ever ever gets the killing blow. BUT NOT TODAY!
it was great. 
we then repaired elizander’s armor and legendary rolls = NEW DESIGN! aahhhHH!
now we are fighting 4 black dragon drakes and 3 black dragon dragonlings. i tried to pet one and got rotted. one of them currently has spine up in the air and i have fish face’s folly at the ready but there was so many people i didn’t get to have my turn.
see you next week! :D
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