#istg shes going to turn me into a vegetarian
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qualitychaoslover · 10 months ago
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I'm not judging anyone, but I think people might be tiniest bit hypocritical when they treat Asian people like they're monsters for eating dog, meanwhile they had bacon for breakfast. I absolutely could never eat dog, and im not going to judge others for eating pig, but pretty much every argument you could give for not eating dogs could apply to pigs
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xluciferseyeshadowx · 10 months ago
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y’all, istg I was just eating Honey Nut Cheerios when an idea for a book slapped me in the face holy shit-
So first, I remember a twitter quote. The quote was something about how life sucks now because eve ate that GODAMN apple in the garden of Eden and humans were meant to chill and eat fruit all day with our tits out and stuff. AND THEN I THOUGHT-HOLY SHIT. WHAT IF I WROTE A BOOK WHERE EVE NEVER ATE THE APPLE AND HUMANS STILL LIVED IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN- NAKED, EATING FRUIT, WITH NO TECHNOLOGY? AND WHAT IF IT WAS ACTUALLY CORRUPT? As somebody who has been going to church for years, I can say with confidence that the Bible is fucked. Women are seen as men’s property. People who are not Christian are shunned. There is lots of religious trauma vibes. So what if the morals like that from the Bible were still accurate and in this book? So I came up with some characters. Mary- she would be one of the main characters. She listens to her parents, and genuinely wants to please them. Her life is planned out for her and shit, because she does not know that life could be any other way from outside the garden. Until- because of the sexist nature of The garden of Eden- she is assaulted and starts believing that she wants something else.
Leah- the second MC. She would be very averse to the idea of being married, and often try to disobey her parents and fuck up her appearance to avoid being found attractive. She has always disliked life in the garden, and Mary being assaulted is the final straw. Beezle: He would be my portrayal of the Devil. Or satan, or whatever you want to call the snake that was in the adam & eve story. He would live near Eden, and he would turn from a snake into a human & spend most of his time tempting people into leaving the garden- rarely succeeding. He finds Mary after her assault and is like “I can totally manipulate this”, but after befriending her and Leah, they end up trying to get out of the garden, along with some others together.
Okay, so those are the main character I came up with. Here is some world building: The garden would be basically how they wrote it in the Bible, if it progressed past eve eating the apple. However, to avoid incest, multiple different families were made by god. They did not all stem from Adam and Eve. Because the garden is how it is in the Bible, it pretty easy to get the concept- mostly vegetarian diet, no clothing, living in harmony with animals and shit. Seems perfect right? WRONG. Because of the inherent religious pushing and being forced into family, there are strict rules that make little to no sense constricting the residents of the garden, especially women. For example: There is heavy influence of the Christian religion on everything, to a pathological degree. Sexual pleasure for women is looked down upon, and will even be punished. Obeying the Ten Commandments is the only real principles, leading to many loopholes and other crimes. Adam and Eve would be the leaders of the garden, controlling most of what goes on within it. They knew Beezle, and have spun the story to say that he was trying to ruin paradise for them by offering the apple. Heaven was actually trying to break free of god’s will. The main story plot would be Mary, Leah and Beezle trying to find a way to leave Eden, but ending up with them trying to help the others out.
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1eos · 3 years ago
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just searched it up and oh of Course the cis white woman is threatened by trans-inclusive terminology...istg white women do everything to prove how hard life is because of their ONE axis of oppression even when it makes no sense. anyway yes that's exactly it, it's so 'white-feminist' which is why it felt so one-dimensional, whereas the vegeterian was so complex and multidimensional because woc just Get it. and that's also why TEW felt so empty because it really just focused on marian's isolated pov to the point that literally Nothing was happening around her, she was just silently going nuts which wouldve been okay had it been shown well. anyway, i was really interested in trying to read other margaret atwood books but even disregarding her shittiness, her writing style seems too aimless and anticlimactic for me. there's a book that i absolutely love called bunny by mona awad, it leans less into the feminism narrative (tho it does really do well at criticizing rich white-feminism) but it still has that /super/ trippy and fever-dream aspect in books that i loved in the vegetarian so if youre into that effect i highly reccommend that one! i saw you reading the silent patient which i really enjoyed, have you finished it?
you really get it anon. the stilted 'white cis women are the most oppressed people in the world how you ask me to give a fuck abt anyone else' vibes truly reflect in her work. was immediately turned off from reading any of atwood's other works after that one esp when authors of color are doing more interesting things w similar concepts. nd i'll add bunny to my to read list! still not done with the silent patient i took a break from reading it to tackle the ballad of black tom but i definitely have plans to finish it since it came so highly spoken of nd im abt 15% in nd its been interesting so far!
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sage-nebula · 8 years ago
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Mystic Messenger - Entry Four
Aaand we’re back! A lot has happened and so, in all honesty, I won’t have all of the screencaps I’ve taken so far in this post. I think that there are more than enough of them to warrant multiple posts. Nonetheless, I’m kind of nearing the end (I’m on Day 6 of Seven’s route), so! Exciting things have happened! Well, exciting things, and also---
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Fake news.
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This killed me. Mister Chef, oh my god.
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GRANDPA LAMSAY OH MY GOD.
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SERIOUSLY I’M CRYING JUST LOOK AT THAT PROFILE PHOTO. “Chef RamG” I’M---
I can’t handle this game sometimes, istg. (Also, as it turns out, Seven is a huge fan of Mister Chef lololol, he’s priceless.)
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Seven, he is ace, leave him be. Like, I love you, but none of that foolishness, please.
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Same, Jumin.
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Same. Like, really, Jaehee, you should be careful, because Seven’s not the only one you’re dragging right now . . .
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Jumin was insulted by this, all “I’m just trying to help” but it’s like? Jumin, pls. Not everyone has the money to just hire a nutritionist and a chef, ffs. And cooking isn’t that simple, either---good ingredients are expensive. Sure, you can make simple pasta and that doesn’t cost very much, but living solely on pasta isn’t healthy either (trust me, I know that full well). I get you’re trying to help, but pls, realize that us ~commoners~ can’t always employ the ~easy solutions~ that you can. Honestly, I don’t want to agree with Zen about anything, but in that moment I truly channeled my inner Haruhi.
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me @ Jumin:
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Seriously, sometimes, Jumin just gets me:
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TELL HIM, JUMIN. YOU ARE SO RIGHT. And honestly, you’d think that Zen would have that message by now, considering---
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I mean, truthfully, I take the Seven answer choice damn near every time because I have Priorities™, but even if it had been another character I would still pick them over Zen. I REALLY DON’T LIKE YOU, ZEN. WHEN WILL YOU TAKE THE HINT?
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Literally, though, Seven is fucking adorable. This was a whole story about how he chased down some hackers and got a bunch of boxes of Honey Buddha Chips in return. I didn’t take screenshots of the entire thing because that would be ridiculous, but I played along and it was so cute and funny and god, I love him.
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SWEEPING ME OFF MY FEET, SEVEN.
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THAT’S THE PLAN.
Okay, so after that, the next screenshot I have is of a very key Visual Novel Moment. There are a few of these sprinkled throughout the paths (in Deep Story, at least), and this one was . . . pretty monumental. If you’ve been following these posts so far, then you should remember a guess I made early on. And if you do, then you will see that . . .
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I WAS RIGHT, BITCH IS ALIVE.
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I knew it, I so called it, there were just too many reasons for me to believe that Rika was still alive, not the least of which is that no one seemed ready to talk about her death. (At some point V also talks about going on a mysterious trip, but he says he doesn’t know where he’s gong, and ??? Suspicious.) It also seems that I was right in feeling that she is potentially nefarious, and in line with Weirdo somehow, because honestly---
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Not the best screencap, but you can see her dialogue there. She wants to delete everything. Something tells me that she’s in line with Weirdo, who wants to corrupt / delete / sabotage / ruin the RFA. The main question is why . . . but I suppose we’ll find out.
Back on to lighter ventures! (For the time being, anyway . . .)
Okay, so at one point Zen and Jaehee were talking about how lucky Jumin is to have Jaehee as his assistant (and Zen was being so complimentary that tbh it helps me ship them more), and then these choices came up:
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And obviously I picked the Seven one because I know what I’m doing:
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But I’m laughing because in all actuality I want him to be my boyfriend, but I know what I’m doing so I had to pick that . . . but yes, Jaehee, I do have unique taste. And I hope that you realize that “unique” means “good” in this case because Seven is the BEST BOY.
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This one was hard because I’m honestly not jealous in any way, but at the same time I’m aggravated by Zen obsessing over the gender of Seven’s . . . “maid.” (I know the truth by now, but . . .) Like he’s so obsessed with gender and sexuality and it pisses me off, so I went with the first choice. Gender is irrelevant. Stop being gross, Zen.
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I DO! (This was Jumin talking, by the way.) He also went on to say about how he feels that humans, animals (and really, humans are animals, but that’s not the point right now) and plants should all live in harmony and exist in the circle of the world together, or something like that. I don’t remember precisely how he put it, but I do remember agreeing with him. While I have a ton of issues with how the meat industry operates and feel that there is a ton of room for necessary reform, I’m not vegan because a.) I feel like it won’t actually accomplish anything (in that my monetary contribution is not even a drop in the bucket compared to how much the meat industry makes annually), and certainly not more than my vote will when it comes to voting for politicians and policies that support animal welfare, and b.) I feel like since we, as humans, are omnivorous, that means it is not inherently wrong for us to eat meat. I believe in the circle of life, or (as it was put in Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood), “one is all, all is one.” We eat cows or chickens, sure. But one day, we die. And when we die, perhaps we are buried, and then our bodies decompose and join the earth. We join the soil and plants there, and then we grow into grass or are eaten by bugs, which are then consumed by herbivorous animals (for the plants) or carnivorous animals (the bugs). We’re all connected---each and every creature on this earth, and that includes the plants, are connected. So it’s not inherently wrong for us to eat meat, because one day, we will be the meat that is eaten. Even if we’re cremated, those ashes could be spread somewhere where they could rejoin the planet. It’s all the same. We’re all part of this cycle, each and every one of us is connected.
So I do think that Jumin is right here, or at least, I agree with that philosophy---that philosophy that says that we’re all one, we’re all connected. And if a bear ate me tomorrow, that would be fair, because the bear is just eating prey as it should. Yeah, it would hurt, but it would be fair. Same if a cow killed me. And yes, of course I feel that there are some animals we shouldn’t eat (cats, dogs, humans), and I’m aware that “but that doesn’t make logical sense!” --- but then, this is hardly the only thing humans are illogical about. It’s not about logic in that case, it’s about feeling. We all have our squicks, and putting certain meats on the menu constitutes some of mine.
Anyway, this was a long ramble, but the point is that I agree with what Jumin said, and it actually forms the basis for my own feelings concerning why I’m not vegan / vegetarian. I do wholeheartedly believe in animal welfare and I always make sure to pay attention to bills (including those at the local level) that support it. I just personally feel that it’s not inherently morally wrong to eat meat, that we’re all connected and all the same, “one is all, all is one”, and that we should all---plants included---live in harmony.
That’s how I feel, anyway. But that said, back to less serious matters---
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This made me laugh. You can’t actually romance Yoosung in the Deep Story, apparently, but you can romance Jumin, and---well, either way, both of them have seemed interested (Yoosung at the start, Jumin increasingly as time has gone on), so it made me laugh that they were both like “what” and “no” when I picked the “my Seven” answer choice, lololol.
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First of all, I have always wanted to eat one of those fish buns (taiyaki, they’re called in Japanese) ever since I saw Ash eating one in the first season of the OS. Second, I know exactly what I’m saying, Jaehee. Don’t question me. This is necessary to woo the boy.
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I could be wrong, especially since things that happened later led me to believe that Seven is actually serious about his religion (Catholicism), at least in a way, but this whole exchange felt, to me, like we were being blasphemous on purpose. And that made me laugh, because although I’m not atheist (I’m agnostic), this is exactly the kind of thing I do. (I did say “god damn it” in a church on accident once, though, and it was right in front of a priest, and when I realized that I said “fuck!” and just . . . made it worse . . .)
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This was, like, a low-level diss, but it counts, so enjoy it.
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This is the second time that phrase has come up: “You do not ask about the past of hackers and cats.” I like it.
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IT’S TRUE, HE IS. HE IS ALREADY IN MY HEART. I LOVE HIM SO MUCH. Honestly, I was going to play through the other routes once I finish with this one, but . . . can I do it? I love him so much, I don’t know if I want to woo anyone else. This is like Chrom all over again . . . I’m way too attached orz.
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He could never replace you. Like, no one could, but especially not Zen. Don’t even joke.
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Actually, I can’t understand Yoosung’s typos at all. I really just wanted to talk about Seven, lol. Like I said, I have Priorities™, the mission cannot be compromised for anything.
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FUCKING SAVAGE. Jaehee came for Yoosung’s entire life, omfg. Like, honestly, the first bit was savage enough, but “especially not after he’s laughed like a child in this chatroom”? Goddamn.
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BUT YOOSUNG CLAPPED BACK. I was just sitting there like
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Literally cannot believe Seven tried to set me up with Jumin like this. I thought we had something special, how could he?!
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This was so cute, though. Like, I knew that picking “for Elizabeth the 3rd!” would increase affections with Jumin, but at the same time, look at him . . . just imagining drinking wine with his cat makes him happy, like . . . that’s so cute, I can’t be mean to that.
Unfortunately, some other people have absolutely no sense of how to be decent human beings---
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Literally, Zen? You can leave. Jumin was here first---you joined after. You could seriously leave the chat right now and no one would care or miss you. Like, his obnoxious narcissism aside (and his homophobia and obsession with gender aside), it’s things like this that make me really dislike him. He’s being a massive dick right now. I get that he’s allergic to cats, but talking about cats alone doesn’t set off the allergy (that’s not how biology works), and he’s picking a fight with Jumin right now for literally no reason. He’s a complete prick. Fuck off, Zen, for real.
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me and Jumin:
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And if you think that I might have decided to let up on Zen at that point, you are mistaken.
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NO MERCY, NO REGRETS. Anyway, back to the boyf---
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. . . Okay, Seven, I still love you, but please don’t insult dogs by comparing them to Zen. Dogs don’t deserve that.
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AND THEN HE MADE A BEAUTIFUL HARRY POTTER REFERENCE TO MAKE UP FOR IT. I LOVE YOU, SEVEN.
The conversation with V and Seven went on for a while, and the date for The Party™ was set to one week from that present day. V left, and after a bit more talking Seven did as well, and despite all of the repeated reassurances during this conversation that everyone (including me) was safe, the second I was alone in the chat room . . .
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THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT THAT LEFT ME SO SHOOK. Not just because of all of the weird messages, but also because this music started playing, and it kept playing! Or at least, another version of it kept playing, both in the Visual Novel segment that followed, and in two chats (that second one for sure played all through the first chat on the next day, with Yoosung, and then one of the two played when talking with Jaehee and Seven about the hacker). Like, listen, it is very disturbing to have this theme playing instead of the normal character themes. Legit shook, no joke.
Anyway, I have a ton more screenshots, but this is a good place to end this particular post. More to come in entry five. Stay tuned!
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