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Everything Wrong And Right With Phineas and Ferb Star Wars
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Well, it's Noddy time again. Yep, we had to make this a trilogy. He likes Star Wars too so why not bring him. So let's get into it.
SINS:
1. Pretty sure this takes more than just “a couple' summers ago.
2,. Jim Cummings isn't narrating about Bees in this scene.
3. “May the Ferb be with you' would have been a better official title than “Phineas and Ferb Star Wars”
4. Netflix repeats the intro on Part 2 again. At least they actually added an original version of the text crawl joke.
5. Oh, and the production codes skip a number again.
6. (Noddy) Despite the claim of not being canon this entire intro with Perry stealing the Death Star plans is now irrelevant thanks to Rogue One.
7. (Noddy) A tall administration building seems kind of impractical to put on a Star Destroyer, I mean what happens when it enters a planet’s orbit and gravity takes hold?
8. (Noddy) Why would people in Imperial administrative work need Stormtrooper helmets? They also look super weird with the ties over the torso Armour.
9.”Oh uh, it's work releated” Woooooow.
10.(Noddy) See, I told you having a skyscraper for admin on a Star Destroyer was a terrible idea.
11.They couldn't get any of the actual actors. I guess they're a bit old but come on, a cameo from some would have been nice.
12.Leave it to Phineas to be so sheltered he thinks Tatooine is a paradise.
13.(Noddy) Phineas and Ferb are flying with Jabba on his sail barge, implying that they are friends with an infamous crime lord and are okay with him doing stuff like owning slaves (like the twilek girls on his ship seen here).
14.Rap Verse
15.Them mentioning their tight relationship is slightly random, almost like it'll be important later.
16.Guess this Phineas figured the Phinbedriods were a bad idea too.
17.Also, a placeholder sin for every single anachronism  there is, like Rap existing in the Star Wars universe.
18.(Noddy) Apparently, Uncle Owen sacrifices efficiency and free upgrades from Phineas and Ferb for being “old fashioned”.
19. (Noddy) Okay the Empire is bad, sure, but did they ever use child soldiers for major missions?
20.”I told you to go before the raid.” Boooo.
21.(Noddy) Apparently a Galactic Empire can only afford plastic armour.
22.(Noddy) I don’t think Darth Vader would need socks, given that his feet would be entirely mechanical.
23.”Someone who has a weaker position than others think it's potential is being wasted ' cliche
24.Also “find” socks? Are they that rare that they must be “found”?
25.Perry can't be in the shot with her just because he wasn't in the movie.
26.I know their mission is about a socks but I think a rebel on board is a pretty big deal.
27.(Noddy) For some reason Anthony Daniels isn’t voicing C-3PO even though he pretty much does so for everything.
28.Also, Simon Pegg in two specials in  a row?
29.(Noddy) I don’t think the Sith are publically known enough to have a brand named after them.
30. (Baljeet does “Socks” to the tune of the Imperial March) Booooo
31.Ework screech
32.I wanna see what The Slacks look like here, but we just hear them.
33.(Noddy) Oh look, Darthenshmirtz built the Death Star, another detail Rogue One has rendered pointless. Even before Rogue One, Episode II confirms the Geonosians designed the Death Star, while Krennic in Rogue One ordered Galen Erso to design the laser.
34.(Noddy) I don’t think the Empire would allow bumper stickers promoting the Force to be sold if they’re trying to suppress knowledge about it.
35. (Noddy) I don’t know how someone would confuse physics camp with a galactic military, but okay.
36.(Noddy) In the Empire is an awesome song, however it gets a sin because it makes space fascism sound cool.
37.(Noddy) How would Candace get away with wearing Stormtrooper armour in a normal school setting?
38.And these kids are wearing clothes that should not exist in this universe.
39.(Noddy) Burbank being shown as an exotic world implies Earth exists within the Star Wars Galaxy. So much for a Galaxy far, far away.
40.(Noddy) Wouldn’t Candace get in trouble for not wearing her helmet and marching out of formation?
41.(Noddy) Mid level Darth.” This is logically impossible, because the Rule of Two prevents more than two Sith from existing at one time to prevent infighting.
42.He says “Feeling better” but in the Soundtack version he says “Feel better?”
43.”This is a bathtub stopper” Is he really that dumb?
44.”No, that's a stick” Same as above.
45.”Giving a bantha a shower” Ha Ha.
46.(Noddy) I always got the impression Hoth was a rather desolate world, not the place where a ski camp would be set up.
47.A Disney character who DOESN'T want to be out there? WHAT WITCHCRAFT IS THIS.
48.(Noddy) Lawrence and assumes the boys will only be into girls and doesn’t have it occur to him that maybe they will have different tastes?
49.(Noddy) Tatooine High implies there’s only one high school on the entire planet. I know Tatooine is a shady place, but still?
50.(Noddy) I don’t think the Doofenshmirtz Evil Inc. building seems like something good for flying.
51.The CGI in this is mostly good but this shot of R2 right after the boys hit him is...not good.
52.(Noddy) Phineas and Ferb’s speeder has a Hula girl twilek, promoting the objectification of twilek women like they always are across the Galaxy. They’re apparently friends with Jabba so this isn’t as far fetched as it should be.
53.(Noddy) Why would Obi-Wan bother training two random kids when his plan was to wait for when Luke was old enough to train him? I guess he wants a backup plan without Yoda knowing about it?
54.Even if it does exist in some EU book or whatever, it's stall weird seeing Cake in Star Wars, especially this kind.
55.Shouldn't you have told him about the next mission right away instead of cock teasing him?
56.Ferb is a dick to Phineas.
57.Where did that puppet come from anyway?
58.(Noddy) Promoting that your spaceport has scum and villainy is probably bound to turn off people instead of attract them.
59.Gilligan Cut.
60.Watto happens to have a near indenitcal sun named Blatto. Really.
61.'Hey. Spoiler alert” For a very old an iconic film everyone has seen. Also, haw haw.
62.(Noddy) Why is there a Darth Vader shaped shop in Mos Eisley? Vader isn’t really trying to promote himself publically.
63.The boys just keep showing the death star plans out in the open and oh look it bit them in the butt right away.
64.”My watermelon” haw haw
65.(Noddy) Why is it called paperwork when everyone would write their reports electronically?
66. “Only one death-” There's an alarming amount of death in this for a Phineas and Ferb episode. This is tame comapred to a certain joke later.
67. (Noddy) Obligatory Han shot first joke.
68.(Noddy) Vanessa is a Twilek while every other PnF character is still human for some reason.
69. I don't typicall call out stuff like this as “Fan service' but....this is fanserivce. I mean, she's even got these guys horny for her. AND OF COURSE THIS IS SIN 69.
70.”Solo” 'So low” Haw haw.
71.(Noddy) Isabella apparently has a rivalry with Han Solo. Seems pretty petty for Solo to have a rivalry with some young girl, huh?
72.(Noddy) I’m unaware of Chihuahuas existing in the Star Wars galaxy.
73.The Parsecs thing reminds me: Placeholder sin for every sin from the original movie that applies to this, at least the ones I don't end up pointing out myself later.
74.Isabella is a dick to Vanessa.
75.”Seems weird you'd call it something you didn't want to be asked about” Phineas would be good at P&F Sins.
76.This is another placeholder for any and all big inconsistencies between the plots of thi and the movie because I'm sure they exist but neither of us felt like sinnning all and the wiki only points out like one.
77.(Noddy) Why would a bus take civilians to the Empire’s biggest weapons project, I don’t think they’d be happy with people knowing that they’re planning to destroy planets? In current canon they even fabricated cover ups for the events that unfolded in A New Hope.
78.The internet exists in the Star Wars Universe.
79.(Noddy)
80.Genocide joke.
81.PHINBELLAAAA!
82.(Noddy) How on Earth do lightsaber tools work?
83.”I don't think we could float all the way home” Still good at sins.
84.Giant Floating Baby Head Cameo.
85.(Noddy) Dan and Swampy cameo.
86. Vader chokes someone over socks.
87.We clearly see donuts in the truck but Phineas acts like they don't have any.
88.Also, they fell for that.
89.Wait a minute, in this universe they know he's a “Secret agent/' and went through the whole 2nd dimension ish story? This is very ….odd.
90.Isabella has no real reaction to this rebel Platypus.
91.(Noddy) Again, there can be no more than two Sith, and Doofenshmirtz doesn’t recognize this. Unless he’s confident enough to overthrow Vader and the Emperor and have Perry (and Ferb, given Doof obviously doesn’t care about Sith tradition and what let them survive under the Jedi’s noses for a millennia) by his side.
92.(Noddy) How is Perry sentient while in Carbonite?
93.How does Doof know about Alderaan being blown up already? Also, more Genocide Humor.
94.(Noddy) Feminised Stormtrooper armour. Female Stormtroopers exist and don’t need armour like this.
95.”Darth Vader can kiss my Bantha!” Booo.
96.”I'll have a victory number in the 4th act” But we're near the end of Act 4.
97.Ferb's hood is up after he gets hit by the inator but in the next shot it's back on.
98.(Noddy) Doof is a bigot to droids.
99.In the movie, the Imperial Officer on the other end of the com-link said, "We're sending a squad up." Here he says, "We're sending a squad in."
100.”Oh Bantha Droppings” Again, boooo
101.(Noddy) I don’t think Darth Vader would need an inhaler, given taking his mask off would be incredibly risky. Guess that’s why he threw it out?
102.It's not good anymore if it's- “It's not good anymore” Oh Come on!
103.”Let's make sitth happen/' Boooo
104.(Noddy) Oppressive regimes have crushed unionization to silence potential dissent, the Empire allowing one to exist seems like a bad idea.
105.They don't report that.
106.”Hero saves a bad guy” cliché.
107.Pretty sure this guy is dead now.
108.Phineas, she flat out said she might ditch you, maybe she shouldn't be trusted now
109.(Noddy) Apparently being hit with so much of the Dark Side makes you look like Darth Maul.
110.You couldn't pass up the chance for a Jar Jar joke, could you?
111.Being Evil makes you talk more. Ironic given Darth Maul wasn't amazingly talkative.
113.'Villain asks hero to join them” cliché.
114.(Noddy) Ferb obviously doesn’t understand Sith customs either. Unless he’s REALLY old school and wants to be like the Ancient Sith and their large numbers.
115.”What about Robin Hood?” “That has not happened yet” Again, pointing out your sins does not make them go away.
116.(Noddy) Candace, Buford and Baljeet seem awfully relaxed for realizing how awful destroying a planet is.
117.(Noddy) Not only does the Rebellion allow kids to fight with them, Gretchen also lampshades it. Guess PnF Star Wars was trying to get into the darker side of the Rebellion before Rogue One.
118. We'll subvert the Jar Jar Binks slam somewhat, but we'll flat out turn Porkins into a butt monkey.
119.(Noddy) Juice boxes feel really weird in the Star Wars aesthetic.
120.”What are you doing here Isabella, run out of cupcakes?” That's sexist.
121.The only Star Wars cast member they got is from one of the cartoons and was already on this show!
122.”The wookie is right” I'm sick of booing at this point.
123.(Noddy) These lightsaber designs Phineas and Ferb are making seem really impractical in a duel.  
124.Candace partakes in a Face Heel Turn cliché.
125.More jokes about death, yikes writers.
126.Ferb was evil for all of 5 minutes.
127.'Why is this guy hugging us” ...He's your brother....He told you, you even replied. Come on Candace.
128.There's some questions this reveal with them has, in the context of this episode but I'm tired at this point.
129.We finally get a reference to their real Dad, and it's not in Canon.
130.We don't see Isabella coming in for the sake of this fakeout.
131.Sorry, you can't avoid this mass death after all the other death jokes in this.
132.”There are copies of the Death Star Plans somewhere, we might have a teeny problem- “ Oh just you wait.
133.(Noddy) ““Hologram out.” Ha ha.
134.”Now I can live to fight in the sequel” We never got that sequel.
135.Chewy STILL doesn't get a medal.
136.(Noddy) I see more female rebel members here than there were in the entirety of A New Hope
137.”A New Hope has returned” Roll credits....kinda.
138.(Noddy)  C-3PO does the robot because he’s a robot, geddit?
139.(Noddy) Okay I’m late on this but the Rebel Let’s Go on the screen reminded me – I know things are readable so the audience understands everything, but in-universe shouldn’t it be written in Aurebesh? Even weirder, there were things written in said script in this special as well.
140.It just hit me: This Monogram has no Carl!
141. (Noddy) ”We're not related are We?'” Incest joke.
142.(Noddy) Extra sin because it’s a PHINABELLA incest joke.
143.Dance Party Ending.
144.Writer credits are at the end for some reasn.
145.(Noddy) I don’t think those spins R2 does are anatomically possible for a droid like him.
146.(Noddy) Somehow Porkins survived in the vacuum of space and made it back perfectly fine to Yavin 4.
147. Way to end  on a high note, guys.
EPISODE SIN TALLY: 147
SENTENCE: Watch The Star Wars Holiday Special.
…..I shouldn't be shocked, given this is the longest episode at 51 minutes but DAMN. Granted, Noddy, helped but still. Yep new sin recod. Noddy likes doing that lol. Anyway, let's look at the wins. Noddy didn't send me a ton, fair warning.
WINS:
1. Awesome recreation of the Star Wars intro and crawl
2. Jim Cummings is always a win.
3. The Text crawl bit in general  is really funny, especially Part 2's that you can see on netflix.
4. (Noddy) I don’t know if it’s intention, but if telling Jim Cummings to narrate faster was a reference to George Lucas’ infamous direction of simply being “faster, more intense,” then well played.
5. (Noddy)“And none of this is canon, so just relax.”
6. Phineas and Ferb has always had a spotty record with CGI,but this is has the best CG in the whole series, easily.
7. Infact, right off the bat the best part of this special is whole they capture the feeling of Star Wars, from the in jokes, to the animation to the music. Oh man the music is great, even the actual score is really good due to being less “Synthesized” than usual.
8.This whole opening is great, really gets in the Stars Wars move but it still adds in jokes when I needed like the “Work related” bit.
9.The concept alone for this special is great, taking place during the events of the movie. I don't think I've seen that idea done before like this and it works.
10.The first of many great songs. It's fun, sets up their relationship for later, and has many great visual gags.
11.Phinbedrod cameo!
12.While they didn't get most of the actual actors, the replacements are pretty decent given they aren't in for too long.
13.Fun Fact” Parts of this scene are a reference to a Deleted Scene for the movie. Now that's doing your homework.
14.Candace is a stormtrooper is perfect.
15.Them getting freaking songs for Vader is funny.
16.Buford and Baljeet joining her is also great.
17.Placeholder sin for every funny joke I don't point. In this case, I don't want this to be a list of good jokes, there's too many.
18.Simon Pegg is always a win.
19.SITH ROAST
20.Baljeet saying Socks to the tune of the imperial march is a win.
21.FULLY OPERATIONAL DEATH STAR
22.Darthenshmirtz is a win.
23.Him building the death star makes too much sense. (Even if Canon would later explain it)
24.(Noddy) Candace mentions she has busting instincts. Could this be a sneaky way of saying she’s force sensitive?
25.(Noddy) In the Empire is an awesome song, Ashley Tisdale rocks it.
26. Yeah, this is my favorite song in the special. It's one of the songs they did with live horns and it shows.
27.”You can be all that they want you to be” Best line.
28.Candace's rant was written by Wayne Brady, who is a win.
29.I like Candace's arc here of wanting to be appreciated as a Stormtrooper, nice set up for her heel turn later.
30.Interesting set  up Phineas not wanting to leave but still seeing how cool it is out there.
31. Great bit with Lawrence and Linda here.
32.This bit with Doof and Vader is funny.
33.(Noddy) Before Doof sees Darth Vader, one of the droids on the conveyor belt resembles one of the battle droids from the Prequel Era. Just found that cool.
34.And now we really get our set up with the boys getting the death star plan. Its a good set up for this story.
35.Hologram.
36.Love this little bit with Bobba fett.
37.Fun Fact, this text can be translated. They read “YOU GOT A JOKE NO ONE ELSE DID.", "IF YOU HAVE PAUSED THIS AND TRANSLATED THIS INTO ENGLISH, CONGRATULATIONS.", and "NOW, GO IMPRESS YOUR FRIENDS!". Nice.
38.Funny Gilligan Cut.
39.”They say he shot first but I could have sword it was the other guy” Nice.
40.Olvia Olson singing is ALWAYS  a win.
41.(Noddy) Isabella is awesome in this special. She’s fun, but also badass.
42.A Stark contrast to the previous crossover,to be certain.
43.I don't  know why but Isabella shooting her thing is funny, mostly for Vanessa's reaction.
44.Some great Isabella banter here, like with the discussion of her ships' name,
45.Call me sick but this joke with Alderaan blowing up behind Doof gets me every single time.
46.”Hey, Watcha doin?!” Nice.
47.”This is not a friend ship, it's a Space Ship, so don't invade mine” Heh.
48.Giant Floating Baby Head Cameo!
49.Amusing Dan and Swampy cameo.
50.”I find your lack of socks disturbing” This is already hilarious but that guy doing the awesome Darth Vader impression is one of the writers for the show, not an actual actor. Awesome.
51.Nice moment with Perry. Like the timeshift episodes, they take advantage of it not being canon to feature interactions we can't normally see.
52.Snarky Norm!
53.It's nice of Ferb to go help Perry on his own and I like the bit with Obi Wan.
54.Another awesome Doof sing. Lke all the others, it sounds nice and has good humor.
55.”Now he'll say I'm blown away, much like Alderaan” Yeah, I laughed here too.
56.Back when we had the “turn characters evil trend” in Season 3, me and some friends wished Ferb would be evil at some point. I got my wish.
57.Candace doing these expressions is funny.
58.Isabella has Anti Storm Strooper aim. Very fitting.
59.There's plenty of fun ways this ep and the movie connect and this scene with Doof doing stuff while the others are in that thing...is up there.
60.Phineas saving Candace is great, plus it adds more to arc which we'll get into more of later.
61.Nice Isabella moment here.
62.DARTH. FERB. IS. AMAZING.
63.As obvious as the Jar jar joke is, they cleverly subvert it by pointing out how dumb it is.
64.Ferb's accent just lends itself to evil.
65.(Noddy) The Phineas vs Ferb fight is actually pretty cool.
66. Even taking aside the fight itself, seeing the two have any kind of spat is just amazing and rather heartbreaking too.
67.I love this scene here. Candace's arc is really strong here. Let me put it it this way: She's hated Rebels her whole life and sees her as the good guy. But now she's starting to rethink that after Phineas saves her. It's great and this scene sells it. (Also, this arc foreshadowed Force Awakens. Bonus!)
68.”Didn't we just blow up  a planet?” “That is sort of difficult to justify, morally” Nice.
69.Gretchen's lamp shading here is nice.
70.(Noddy) The scene where Isabella and Han Solo talk is actually really well done and moving.
71. And it nicely adds to Isabella's arc. It's on the typical side I suppose but it's pretty strong here.
72.It also represents one of the strengths of the special: Combining P&F's usual strong storytelling with the Star Wars elements.
73.Dee Bradley Baker is Chewbecca if fitting. Even if his best Star Wars wll always be being EVERY SINGLE CLONE in The Clone Wars. I mean, dang.
74.”The wookie is right” Nice.
75.Candace saving Phineas is cool
76.”Ferb!” D'aww.
77.(Noddy) Phineas and Candace reuniting is really sweet.
78.”What happened to Dad?' “Funny story actually. He-” NICE.
79.”That's what friends are for” D'aww.
80.You know, I like that the story arcs aren't just the flat out ones from the movie. There's a (somewhat) original story going on here, that happens to intersect with the film's story. It has elements from it yet but it's not a rehash.
81.Nice way to address that thing about the innocent people on the Death Star.
82.”Now I can live to fight in the sequel” Nice!
83.(Noddy) Rebel Let’s Go is a cool tune to end on.
84.I've mentioned that Olivia singing is always a win, right?
85.I love that there's an incest joke in a Disney cartoon.
86. Phinbebella kiss. Yes, i'll admit when it's a win. (Just wait until the next episode...)
87.The Porkins bit is funny
88.So yeah, amazing episode and amazing Star Wars Cartoon too!
EPISODE WIN TALLY: 88
REWARD: Socks.
Yep, win record too. Less than I expected , but I did get out the more general wins early on. Once again, huge thanks to Noddy for doing this. It's our last with him on P&F Sins, although maybe there will be room in some series sin ideas  I have, I don't know. Hint hint.
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Well, with that done, we have 3 more left, and only 1 before we hit the proper finale. Join me Wednesday to nitpick the episode everyone has already nitpicked!
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