#imagining zero offscreen FUMING with jealousy

[machinafulmen]

fellas is it gay to draw ship art of you and your boyfriends fursonas

[stainedglassthreads]

for the character asks: Toriel :)

if she’s already been requested, how about Ralsei or Asgore?

Toriel has not been taken yet, but thanks for giving me an excuse to talk about her. I think I'll do both her and Asgore.

Toriel

favorite thing about them: I love the way that, while her and Asgore's kids are very much her and Asgore's kids, they're not carbon copies of each other either. I also love how, despite being compassionate and nurturing and moral, monsters in the Ruins describe her as 'intimidating' while flavor text describes her as acting 'aloof'. It's such a shame that a lot of fanworks don't really go into the more unemotional and distanced aspects of her personality.

least favorite thing about them: I wish we saw more of her grief in-game, rather than implied by extra content. I also have to admit, it's kinda sad that most of her development happens offscreen, and her confrontation with Asgore is more comedic than emotional and meaningful. Toby is great at creating these characters who have all these depth if you dig into them, who the fanbase proceed to take at face value.

favorite line: "What are you doing? Attack or run away! What are you proving this way? Fight me or leave! Stop it. Stop looking at me that way. Go away!" (Love how it parallels Asriel's boss fight dialogue.)

brOTP: Toriel and Sans. Obviously.

OTP: None. Aroace queen.

nOTP: Despite thinking that exploring their relationship has a lot of potential, I think most Post-Pacifist Asgoriel does a really, really, really bad job of exploring their relationship. With a few particulars in mind…

random headcanon: Like Asriel and Asgore, she too has a weapon she can summon and fight with. It's a big fucking anime sword. It's just the goddamn Dragonslayer.

unpopular opinion: She is the Dreemurr portrayed as a 'good person' most consistently, but she's mischaracterized and flanderized just as often as the rest of the family. Also where are the Toriel-centric AUs that have zero romance. Where are they.

song i associate with them: Just Another Day and I Miss the Mountains, both from Next to Normal, feel apt.

favorite picture of them: don't really got any

Asgore

favorite thing about them: He's Just Some Guy. Toriel paints him as a remorseless villain. His subjects paint him as a savior. But he's just. Some guy. You find him watering the flowers. He sees his dead child in you. He tries so hard. He wishes there was another way. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. He remarks that today's a perfect day for catch, shortly before trying to kill you. He gives you every chance to turn back. He chooses not to dodge. His attacks leave you with 1 HP.

He still has to kill you.

He still can't.

He still might.

least favorite thing about them: Release the Forbidden Ending where he adopts Frisk and we get to spend time with him like we did Toriel, Papyrus, Undyne, Alphys, and Sans, Toby. Release the Forbidden Ending where Flowey is left fuming with jealousy and rage because BOTH his parents tried replacing him. RELEASE THE FORBIDDEN KING DAD ENDING

...Also I want Asgore dodging onscreen, reminding the fandom that yes. He is capable of dodging. It's just that you remind him of his dead child.

favorite line: "Birds are singing... flowers are blooming... perfect weather for a game of catch." Original flavor gets overshadowed too damn much by Sans' version.

brOTP: Asgore and Undyne. Asgore teaching Undyne how to kick his own ass and being proud when she does. Asgore desperate yoinking Undyne out of his kitchen. Asgore teaching Undyne piano. Undyne making friends with two people who might remind her of Asgore.

OTP: I don't think I really consider it an OTP, I don't go looking for content of it or anything. But Asgorudy's kinda sweet. Two older men who had some rough past experiences with love, who fall in love with each other.

Sansgore also has potential, methinks. Imagine the comedic awkwardness of Toriel and Asgore having to make up with each other not because Asriel was revived, not because they're getting back togther... but because Sans is dating Toriel's ex.

nOTP: I don't hate Kingdings but every time I see Gaster imply that Toriel never loved Asgore, or that Asgore was too good for her, I start hissing.

random headcanon: The reason he keeps giving children too much responsibility is that, due to a crippling lack of people in positions of authority in the war, he was dumped with the responsibility of housing and fielding complaints of monster refugees. I also like the headcanon he had a stupidly large number of older siblings in line for the throne before him and wasNEVER meant to be king.

unpopular opinion: He and Toriel and more similar than they are different.

song i associate with them: I've Been. Also from Next to Normal. "And I've never had to face the world without her at my side/Now I'm strolling right beside her as the black hole opens wide/Mine is just a slower suicide..."

favorite picture of them: I like his battle sprite. I like how he can't even look at you.