#im tempted to do a rewrite of this movie with the twins and shiyo included now

[violetnaps]

3rd phantom x memories of nobody thoughts

so shiyo Could potentially be a memory collective, and just like how memories of senna are (supposed to be) erased once she disappears, the time/memories inside the valley of screams also disappears once it disintegrates. we don't know whats actually supposed to happen to the collective - blanks are supposedly meant to reintegrate into the soul cycle, but the only collective we know of dies bc of outside forces. if not for the events of the movie, what wouldve happened to senna? lets say hypothetically the collective and the memories can somehow be separated, leaving only the "person" behind. senna/shiyo, whose only sure identity are their names.

(i say "supposed to be erased" bc the movie has a random ending scene where ichigo still remembers senna and even meets someone who looks like her. just like 3rd phantom making an epilogue where seigen and konoka are already reincarnated in the human world... something something two nickels)

the more difficult part is how this overlaps with the characters who the shisui mirror disappeared: matsuri, fujimaru, seigen and arturo (as well as konoka, who was lacking a physical form at that point - which is another sticking point, bc like... theyre already souls... where does this physical/spiritual separation come from...). if we stick with the valley of screams theory, the only way they wouldve all lost 100 hundred years worth of memories living somewhere that couldnt be traced is if they were in a valley of screams the entire time. also, shiyo and konoka had to come into contact at some point in these hundred years, likely very early on or even immediately. iirc souls age in accordance to changes in reiatsu, so whatever they did in there for 100 years didnt make them stronger/older.

also also, one of the antagonists was able to regenerate parts of himself from blanks, even down to making duplicates. that feels unlikely to be a shikai ability even though the shikai is the point of duplication. that opens up a whole new avenue of using blanks - can blanks regain their memories and revert to their original form? during the festival scene that seemed to be the case. soul reapers and arrancars would probably have stronger egos than the average soul, so they could probably recover more easily. so then that could explain why nothing changes for them for 100 years - they became blanks, passed their memories on to shiyo. but then something changed and brought them back. some kind of external stimulus? the most obvious variable is konoka, who is only the ego/memories(?) of herself attached to shiyo, her physical form being left behind and buried in soul society.

say the other blanks were returned to the soul cycle, but bc of the strong egos of the being shinigami/arrancar, those four couldnt be returned. and bc of them, the collective still needs to exist. so shiyo remains, but where? if she was in the valley like senna was then the movie events wouldve occurred. the human world? but then how would she encounter konoka? is the main assumption here that the valley of screams and shiyo herself were created as soon as the twins, seigen, konoka and arturo were kicked out of the soul cycle? that could work actually, that's quite significant.

so the mirror goes out of control -> 4(+konoka) sent out of the soul cycle -> valley of screams created -> shiyo forms and konoka hides inside her alongside all the collective's memories, all the others are reduced to blanks -> valley of screams naturally dissolves and the blanks are returned to the soul cycle to live normal lives again, excepting the 4(+konoka) -> shiyo survives, probably in the human world which is where the collective is supposed to go -> 100 years pass and something causes them to regain their memories and identities, and shiyo to forget hers?

ughhh answering one question brings up another. should just handwave it like kubo does