#im only on ep 9 so this might not make narrative sense by the ending idk

[faircailin]

The Good Shepherd

[stormyoceans]

What is p'aof pulls a bad buddy and morkday kiss within the 5th ep??? WHAT IF????

But also what if not? Because he has a tendency to not really focus on the kiss and only use it when it is of importance y'know? What do you think?

CONSIDERING THAT NEXT EPISODE WE'RE ALREADY GETTING THE CHANGING ROOM SCENE WHICH I THOUGHT WAS GONNA HAPPEN WAY FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT ANYMORE

im really not excluding anything at this point, but personally i've always thought that mork and day's first kiss would happen in songkhla, and even if the progress in their relationship is happening much faster than i originally expected, i still believe songkhla is when things between them are actually going to change. maybe it's because in my head i still have that scene from the mock trailer where mork asks day if he has now seen everything he wanted and day answers "one more picture" before going in for a kiss: i feel like p'aof may have readapted that moment, but that the essence of it is still gonna be in the show, so if i had to give a time frame i think their first kiss is gonna happen at the end of episode 9 (right before day completely loses his sight)

it's also because, like you said, p'aof isn't one to make his characters kiss without purpose: to him kisses are narrative tools that always need to happen for a reason. there's also a whole history of nature and 'out of town trips' being used to symbolize freedom and change and clarity that p'aof himself often uses in his shows and that would work as a perfect set up for mork and day's first kiss, so yeah, IM A MORKDAY FIRST KISS IN SONGKHLA TRUTHER

as long as it makes sense in morkday's journey and doesn't feel rushed, tho, i definitely wouldn't mind if it happened earlier!!!!! (i mean it might kill me for good because i wouldn't be psychologically emotionally spiritually mentally or physically ready for it, but i wouldn't mind sfjskgfjsg)

[clarespace]

lol my thoughts:

• ep 9 was the peak and it went downhill as the show tripped over itself with rushed plot lines and shoving the girl, again, to come in between the two guys. like, i was already ??? during ep 10 when they moved in, what, a month, two months after dating? and without even knowing your boyfriend has an older brother? so many inconsistencies. wat definitely browsed tine's ig with his friends as shown in that flashback, there wasn't a pic of his brother there, and man wouldn't have recognised him??? anyway

• tine's insecurities. we all have that, we've all felt that we are only pale imitations to the people we love so passionately, but the thing is, tine is portrayed as someone who can't do things without sarawat's help, and it's only being done to highlight what a perfect boyfriend sarawat is. the show fails to give tine the character development he deserves by growing within himself instead of waiting for wat to tell him he's enough. why didn't he tell pam himself that sarawat is his boyfriend? he can do that. he doesn't have to wait for sarawat to tell her and it would have been a huge leap for his characterisation. he's seen, he's experienced how sarawat has done everything to prove his feelings for tine but tine still doesn't trust him, would think the worst, stew in it, and let the problem get out of hand. totally relatable but when it happens every time without even a small hint that tine's learned something from the last time? damn it, show.

• sarawat the perfect boyfriend. the show has been pushing and pushing and pushing this narrative because come on, if you have an actor like bright in the role, it totally makes sense! lmao jokes aside, this is one of the main, if not the main, foundation of the show: sarawat being dreamy and romantic and totally in love with tine that he just says it without shame. idk if they were trying to show that no one is perfect, not even sarawat, but if it was their intention, they failed so hard. it's only convincing if it still makes sense. this is the guy who says point blank that tine is everything to him, that tine is the memory he loves the best — with other people present! swoon worthy! but then in the span of two days, he goes quiet about tine in front of the girl he used to love? okay, still understandable, first love and everything, there's always bound to be awkwardness and uncertainty, but then tine opened up to him and sarawat was perfect in his response, but then after that he still doesn't say anything as pam confesses and holds him? it's so out of character even if you're trying to show that sarawat's only human, too. damn it, show.

• okay, okay. the thing is. tine. or, more accurately, how they portray 'bottoms' in bl. im sure you've all noticed but tine doesn't really initiate romantic gestures. not head touches, hugs (except for this one in ep 12), or kisses, or most of the intimate gestures we expect, even the small ones, and it's mostly because bottoms in bl dramas somehow don't do anything but just lie there and be complimented, wooed, and touched? i mean, there just be something out there where the universally acknowledged 'bottom' (ugh seriously that is not a character trait! not! a! character! trait!) actually does something but in this series, only the 'top' gets to take care of the 'bottom' and it's so frustrating to watch. im like, ok, this is definitely the ep where tine will actually show sarawat the kind of affection we scream at if it was coming from sarawat, but instead tine just received and i end up disappointed. it feels like tine is always waiting for sarawat to do something and that's not a balanced portrayal at all. tine was shown in the beginning to be pretty flirty, he's the one with experience, and yet it's the opposite when it comes to wat. sure, he might be unsure of what to do in a gay relationship, but there are other scenes where he's perfectly comfortable, so it's just really that ole bl trope i dislike. the one scene where they looked, acted and felt like a real couple was definitely when sarawat was pouting about having to apologise to tine's brother and he did that whole arms around tine, pulling him in closer by the hips. oh, two scenes, including the sofa scene. such intimacy and closeness. they were much more like a couple before they actually became a couple. damn it, show.

• pam. damn, this girl shows her face and already everyone hates her. why? WHY SHOW? you've used all the girls as plot devices: pear, earn, pam. they're only vehicles for the drama. not to mention the rest of them are just shippers. no other trait but as shippers. it's so toxic. pam was so likeable in the book. sarawat was upfront about tine being his boyfriend and pam supported them. why does the show have to shove drama in the second to the last episode and hoping to resolve everything in the last ep? also, grand gestures are so overrated. it's thrilling, yes, but what a couple really needs is to sit down and talk about the little things. can you even imagine if next ep tine will tell sarawat he was hurt, sarawat apologises, and pam apologises too? because we all know she knows tine is sarawat's boyfriend. wat's ig is mostly time anyway and i refuse to believe they don't have a selfie together. the show could never let them deal with it in a healthy, mature way. they will have to break them up, give the characters reasons NOT to talk, and it will all end in a Grand Gesture to reunite wat and tine in the last minutes, leaving us unsatisfied because all we want is to watch them be cute and happy for the entire episode like they deserve. i thought the show would not go the jealousy/insecurity because of a past love route because most of the conflict stemmed from tine's uncertainty over sarawat's feelings, which wat already proved by telling him the truth about when he first liked him, asking him to move in, being protective and attentive, and showing him the video he made after the concert. nope, they still needed a villain to reaaaaaaaally make things clear in the end. damn it, show.

• time skips. so many time skips that could have shown us more clearly the progress of tine and wat's relationship that aren't montages or moments made for squealing. damn it, show.

• the main plot still makes me laugh to this day. tine doesn't want to date a guy, so the only way to discourage him is to pretend to date another guy? ??? ok, i'll bite, but why does it have to be the hottest guy in school? wouldn't any attractive guy do? also...why does every character use someone to make another person jealous/interested? green using tine, tine using sarawat (and wat taking advantage of it lmao), man using earn in a literal catfish situation! damn it, show.

aside from those things, though, i still actually really like and enjoy 2gether the series. it brought bright into my life, after all, and the middle episodes were excellent. there were a lot of genuinely funny and moving moments, and moments when my heart beat fast and i blushed. a lot of good dialogue and interesting characters. sarawat's uniqueness in that he was SUCH a confident and straightforward gay, which you don't really see. loved his character development when he let himself show his softness around tine, and then smiling and laughing along with his friends. i usually dislike super dense characters but tine was cute and charming. the supportive friends! the utterly sweet backstory. consent and actually giving people space. this could have been the one to truly convince me in bl dramas. oh, well, back to fanfic lmao sorry for the long ass essay

what do you guys think? im up for a nice and polite discussion!