#im not interested in any fandom enough

[incessantlark]

god's gone? damn. how about a roadtrip just to make sure?

[lorephobic]

literally nobody asked for it, but here's my list of saltburn essays that i've slowly been drafting over the course of the last week which WILL be required reading for anybody trying to engage with me about this movie. my very personal saltburn 101 syllabus just dropped

A Wolf in Deer's Clothing: Saltburn's Attempt at Innocence

an examination of party costumes and our character's last attempts to masquerade as something they're not: felix—an angel, all-forgiving and all-knowing, something to be worshiped; and oliver—a prey animal, prey to class-divide, prey to saltburn, prey to felix.

thoughts about oliver specifically are loosely organized in my #bambi tag

A Midsummer Night's Mare: Farleigh Start as the Ultimate Victim of Saltburn

a farleigh character study, about the ways he was mistreated and manipulated at saltburn, about fighting to stay alive and the scars left behind by knowing when to give in

alternatively titled "QuickStart", may be adapted into a conclusive essay specifically focusing on oliver and farleigh's relationship

The Eye of the Beholder: On Saltburn's Voyeurism & Violence [working title]

how wealth and class pushes the catton's toward the volatile reality of being able to look, but not touch. on desire and the lack thereof, and portraying yourself as an object to be desired

may end up as two separate essays on wealth and aestheticism but i'm pushing toward a conclusive essay about the intersection of the two, which i feel is at the heart of saltburn

alternatively titled "Poor Man's Pudding: A Melvillian Approach to Saltburn's Class", again, may be adapted into it's own essay

Gender-Fluid: A Study in Sexuality and Saltburn's Desire to be Dry

a deep dive into the bodily fluids of saltburn and how oliver upsets the standard of men who are just so lovely and dry. on the creative choice to lean into the messy wetness of sex and desire and the audience's instinct toward repulsion

a celebration of the grotesque and an examination of why we would label it as such

least developed of the four, heavily inspired by @charnelpit's lovely post about the fluids in saltburn

if anybody is actually interested in any of these, i can work toward something closer to a finished piece instead of just bullet points and quotes in a google doc, but mostly this is so i can share my very brief takes on a multitude of themes in saltburn that have been haunting me

edit for people seeing this in the future: all posts about my essays are being organized into my #saltburn 101 tag if you’re interested in following these through to development!

[23z567]

I hate twitter fandom culture but its more active and im an attention whore and love being praised so i dont know if thatll work out for me on tumblr or pther socials

[asgardian--angels]

....idk in a fandom this gigantic how are people already coalescing onto a handful of popular headcanons and scenarios that just become the baseline now, when the source material gives us literally limitless possibilities to work with

[galacticlamps]

Six: In Conclusion, The Differences

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Of course, the Two/Jamie // Edwin/Charles parallels don't always shake out exactly along those lines - and frankly, the task of comparing them is more interesting for it. For much the same reasons that it's exciting to talk about how Victoria seems like she's in tune with Jamie - until she isn't - or Zoe appears to mirror the Doctor - until she doesn't - looking at the points of divergence between Jamie & Charles or Edwin & the Doctor sheds just as revealing a light on the specifics of their characters, considering those previously-acknowledged ongoing similarities in their external situations.

Charles may take to being a ghost just as quickly as Jamie does being a time traveler - but he can hardly be said to keep pace with him. Obviously Jamie isn't from present-day earth, but he's still got some pretty solid connections to it, and he happens to be a companion at the time when the show first pulls the 'hey, out of all of time and space, we sure do seem to land on your earth a lot!' card it's now famous for - it's fairly familiar territory for him, and definitely closer to a world he'd still call home than his alien companion can. Likewise, Charles gets to witness, without interruption, the full and gradual shift the living world goes through from 1989 to 2023. Considering Edwin had a rather more drastic leap to make, popping down to hell in 1916 and not returning to earth again until 1989 - and how dense the global, cultural, and technological changes that 73-year span encompassed were - you might well expect Charles to continue to follow Jamie's lead and mirror his famous adaptability, his easygoing, down-to-earth skill at taking the years in stride and not letting the differences rattle him too much. But in the dead boys' case it's the opposite - Edwin is the one more in the habit of adapting himself to suit the altered world around him (certainly as the character whose personal arc was more directly focused-on in the one season that now comprises the entire show, he had more opportunities to demonstrate this), while Charles struggles more obviously with feeling left out of things.

This is probably because Edwin, for all the horror he endured, at least got a cleaner break from the world at his death, and consequently seems to think of himself as more separate from it anyway - a different problem to solve, surely, but one that seems to protect him from aching every time he can't connect with it the way Charles clearly wants to. And perhaps Jamie would be much the same as Charles is on this front, if he had to kind-of-but-not-really live through the 35 years immediately following his own home era, looking in, but still always separate from it in some crucial respect - though I still find it interesting that even in-universe, characters seem to expect Edwin to be the one of the pair more averse to change. "I know you don't like to try new things" Charles says to him, very early on in the show, and Edwin looks skeptical - understandably, I think, because all he does is try new things & step outside of a comfort zone that most things are decidedly on the other side of, but that he really never lets get in the way of him taking a crack at them anyway - a rather more Jamie-ish behavior, if anything.

Similarly, although Charles is - unsurprisingly - the one to insist upon associating with the living more, dragging Edwin into the world, and outright suggesting they add Crystal to the private space of the detective agency they've shared alone together for so long, it's never Jamie but rather the Doctor who brings the companions they pick up together onto the Tardis. That might feel less shocking since the Tardis belongs more specifically to him than the agency could ever be said to be Edwin's alone (though it's funny how the one chair at the main desk seems so exclusively his) - but Jamie doesn't just fail to invite Victoria or Zoe to travel with them, waiting for the Doctor to do so out of courtesy. He flat-out tells Zoe, when she tries to come with them at the end of Wheel In Space, that it's "impossible" after previously struggling to explain to her that there are "two different worlds" - hers, and the one he and the Doctor share in together. On Skaro, he actually needed to be told Victoria was joining them seriously, despite the obvious lack of other options available. For all his friendliness and tendency to befriend the people they meet on their adventures, Jamie clearly thinks of his life with the Doctor as private and not open to new additions, no matter how much he liked them personally already, or how glad he is to have them once they're there.

There are many, many more things to be said about both sets of characters and the shows that enabled them to become what they are - this post has already become several times the length I imagined it would be (literally) and still, I only let it get this long in the first place because I knew it was still technically the 'shorter' version, that it could've wound up even longer, if I actually cited every example of what I meant, and elaborated on every interpretive claim that I made. As it is, I did not know a shorter route than this that still felt like an adequate explanation, and perhaps that's my fault for not having enough conversations about Dr Who recently - hopefully this is the beginning of rectifying that - but we're here now, either way.

Hopefully, the point still stands that these two shows (or one show, and the hallmarks of a specific era of another & the pairing that defined that) remind me of one another in both broad and specific ways which I was surprised and fascinated to find present in Dead Boys, because so many of them played such a large role in making the Second Doctor's era - which I consider to be a unique, well-crafted, and exemplary piece of scifi tv and speculative fiction in general - more appealing & richer to dive into and discuss and think about than an awful lot of other stories, including ones that have had more typical elements in common & looked more similar from the outside.

Despite how long I've taken in making that point (and whether you're counting in time or in words, I come out of it equally badly lol), I still think it's simple enough one that even I couldn't obscure it underneath like 9k of ramblings spread across 8 different tumblr posts. I'm a bit envious of anyone that could've done it more efficiently, but one series has been out for a year and the other for rather longer than that, and on top of not having seen anyone else make the same argument yet, even in passing, I mainly needed to get these thoughts quasi-organized and out from existing exclusively in my own head at some point, and I've done that now so I can't be too bothered by anything else.

Since I've literally written shorter fics than this before, it doesn't seem inappropriate to say the usual, especially since it's truer than ever: Thanks for reading this far & if you have any thoughts on anything I've said at all, however ridiculous, I'd obviously be delighted to discuss them!

[Context] // << previous part

[vessel214]

hi lotf fandom👋

im considering making a post island au (+ a blog for it) and im curious about if anyone would be interested

[tofufei]

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[breadandlottery]

what do you think well happen in season 3 of squid game

<<<supernatural gif of that guy saying gay love can pierce through the veil of death and save the day>>>

That's a heavy question, lol! Like, in general? All of it? The whole season? I do have some predictions on major plot points I can share if you're interested, I guess!~

Cavalry arrives-- Junho et al. find the island, maybe send for backup, and interrupt/prevent game 5 or 6.

Island goes boom-- somehow the explosives come into play.

Inho/Frontman dies-- tragic realization followed by self-sacrifice (to save his brother, hopefully.)

Gihun, Junho, Wooseok-- emerge traumatized but alive (no strong predictions about anyone else living or dying, I guess. also may just be because I want them to survive, lol.)

Black uniform/square guy fucks shit up-- he's gonna foil someone's plans. idk who, but someone.

Open ending-- no doubt Netflix will leave room for more in the squid game universe

Other than that, I'd expect plenty of heartbreak. Including mine!

[v4mpyinred]

Dont understand or like the whole: "dont talk to me if you like the same character as me. Nobody gets them like I do, i'm the best/only/#1 fan!" crap I see in fandom spaces these days. People who are so possessive over the characters they like and can't bear other people loving the same thing.

Like, don't get me wrong, I used to be like this, (and thanks to that, I still struggle with awful fandom jealousy issues to this day💔) but it was not fun keeping all my thoughts to myself or ignoring/hating genuinely cool people because of my weird possessiveness over characters. I'd see everyone else having so much fun and be pissed off, because how dare they like the same thing as me..... like what???? How is that any fun???

It used to be so bad...couldn't read other people's fanfics for the longest time, I resented innocent people just because they liked the same things as me, I'd get so upset seeing people with more merch than me, would get physically sick (im talking dizzy, heart racing, stomach hurting and everything) with jealousy at the most little things etc etc...For me, it was less that I saw myself as the #1 fan, and more I felt too deeply insecure in myself to even be allowed to like what I liked :(

Then I grew TF up, and also realized how fun it was yapping with other fans and sharing the love for the same things. Now it's like, if you don't talk to me about this character I will EXPLODE!!!! I'm having so much fun these days. There's so much amazing fan content out there and so many passionate people I wanna be friends with. I love my fandom friends dearly too, and I adore seeing people love the things I love...I don't understand why I isolated myself like that for so long.

i still struggle with some of those things but it's definitely to a lesser extent! and im way happier than those old days...So it makes me sad when I see that: "I hate when people like the same thing as me!" / "only I get this character" mentality being pushed and joked about, because I'm trying SO hard to get away from it.... Fandom isn't a competition, it's a community. I just think some of ya'll would be a bit happier and actually enjoy fandom if you got over yourself /nbh

[verittean]

writing a felix and turbo centric fic and while trying to get inspiration i just keep thinking about how boring their ship name is like ... '80s boyfriends' dude that could refer to like any ship between boyfriends from the 80s ... like yeah it's a serviceable name but like it feels so unspecial ... glad it has the alternative 'hammertastic' tho i like that one a lot better it's more creative

while i'm at it i really like the ship name 'heroes cuties' LIKE ??? love that it's so perfect ... it also kinda works in a double way bc like not only does it rhyme with 'duty' they are also both heroes and they are cute together <3 also while 'sour candy' is kinda plain in contrast to other names since it incorporates the characters' names i mean like yeah it makes perfect sense idk what else you'd call it ... i don't really like either these ships but the names 'sledgehammer' and 'demolition derby' are also very good ...

yeah ig that's all i have to say lol buncha rambling in the tags

[kellystar321]

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[mayoiayasep]

just remembered the survive mid voting point results and had to go take a lap around my room like oh it is truly not that serious

[snickerdoodlles]

there's a point at which someone's fear of being a dick wraps back around to them just being a dick anyways

[milfygerard]

there was a weird phase for awhile on this site where everyone pretended that gerard was like a shitty mid tier comic writer and like. You guys dont read enough comics. you dont know what bad comics look like.

[amiibo-king]

there are times when i *almost* get desperate enough with the lack of last legacy content to actually check out touchstarved game but then i look at the promotional material for it and i remember why im avoiding it

[malf-oy]

kinda funny that after so many years of being drarry trash the first fic im actually posting is the sirius/draco. like.... i don't even like sirius that much as a character? i just wanted to see him and draco fucking, the rest of the story is just kind of a side effect.