#im not ignoring or forgetting context here im just adding the overall cultural context and outlook the characters would have
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i feel like subordinate (affectionate) has got to be the funniest thing ive ever read ngl
this fake grown ass man's emotional issues are not anyone else's problem but his own if he can't figure out how to act right at 30 that's on him
and i wasnt supposing a general "everyone has to feel this way" because the analysis i gave was for one specific point of contention. family is only one aspect of the situation and not the only thing i discussed. no one denies jgs is horrible. nmj wanted jgy to further his goals with the recommendation letter he writes and wouldn't hold him if he wished to leave. there are certainly many comparisons between wwx's and jgy's circumstances. jc didnt care to change wwx's position nor how people viewed him bc he didnt attempt to even when he had the power to do so. you could argue jc saw wwx as more than his births circumstances of a servant's son all you want but when it comes down to it, jc's own actions are self-serving because he doesn't want to let wwx. because wwx does explain what he's doing and what he wants to do which is protect the wens, jc just doesn't understand why
PSA for “canon jiang cheng” folks:
please stop using the “subordinate” thing as a basis for your arguments. that word does not mean what you seem to think it means.
y’all talk about jc asking wwx to be his subordinate as if it’s like some show of disrespect. some of y’all literally use it as “evidence” that jc “never cared about wwx” and that he “never viewed wwx as anything but a servant” but like.
my friends. subordinate literally just means “someone with a lower rank (than someone else).” it does not carry any connotations of subservience, servitude, lesser worth, or disrespect.
you understand how sect leadership works in mdzs, yes? there is One (1) sect leader.
Everyone who is Not the sect leader, but is affiliated with that sect, is Subordinate to the Sect Leader.
nobody ever claims that lan xichen didn’t care about lan wangji, lan qiren, or any of the juniors, even though they were all subordinate to him as the sect leader.
nobody ever claims that jin guangshan viewed madame jin, jin zixuan, or jin zixun as “just servants” or even servants at all, even though they were all subordinate to him as the sect leader.
hell, nobody even claims that nie mingjue viewed meng yao as “just a servant,” even when meng yao actually WAS a servant!
that’s just how leadership works! being subordinate isn’t a bad thing!! it’s just “a person who has a boss”
“right-hand-man” IS a subordinate position to “sect leader,” and it’s also literally the highest position jc could have given wwx without quite literally making wwx sect leader!
so like. unless you ARE legitimately arguing that jiang cheng should have forced wei wuxian to become sect leader of yunmengJiang, just…please drop it.
that word Does Not mean what you Think it means. the thing you are Mad about is Made Up. please just let it go.
#clearly u dont want to engage with the discussion further so i wont like#give more analysis#but like i already said in my previous tags#that ive said to so many people just idk why they never wanna listen to it#is that u can still like a character if theyre a huge asshole without reaching to completely change their character#like this novel is fine the way it is isnt it??#im not ignoring or forgetting context here im just adding the overall cultural context and outlook the characters would have#i forget not everyone is as into anthropology and actual cultural analysis as i am#whats up with all the bolding tho#im not great at reading social cues at times so i feel like im being talked down to 😭#ive read this novel so many times and i love it to bits i just want people to engage with it thoroughly and not repeat the same stuff#that they heard from other peolpe#mdzs#cause its not like i dont have textual evidence but im not gonna write an essay on this post when they dont care about#that would prob be weird lol
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