#im just complicating everything to do with the shonyuls because theyre a Very complex bunch

[isaacathom]

hintero as a 75% chance of having bastards on account of just being, a Fuck, but what impact that would have a different matter. I don’t think any of his bastards are currently on the chart, or at least i hope not because that means he’s been fucking /other peoples wives/ which is definitely one way to punish your wife for infidelity, i guess. fuck other peoples wives instead. boy howdy right. plus some of the kids in the right age bracket end up marrying his legit kids and boooooyyyyyy fucking howdy id pay for that ntot o be what occurs. some are also absolutely 100% not Shonyul bastards - for instance Lord Taren Ishir is 100% Larions’ legitimate son, because Hintero would never go so far as to even consider fucking Larion and she would probably murder him before he could.

the kerinston kids are a different matter in that they COULD probably be shonyuls bastards, but one would Hope they aren’t. Particularly Yumi Kerinston, who married Daleon Emaldo. While that would explain the early death of their son Brimeon Emaldo, its kinda Fucked and im not down for it. Even if Yumi was basically the last like, ~eligible maiden~ for a perpetual bachelor dickhead like Daleon, if they were actually half siblings even Hintero wouldve gone ‘surely theres Someone else’ and Yumi wouldve gone ‘yea I’m sure theres someone else. what about one of my Zubris cousins?’ and we would have avoided it. Even if Yumi isn’t aware of the relationship she wouldve tried to dodge anyway (she DID try to dodge, for what its worth)

Glorion Kerinston is safe re: incest shenanigannery but also What would be the point of that. not to mention I don’t even thing Undara would be particularly interested in fucking Hintero on principle, unless she was deliberately trying to fuck over her own husband. and while thats possible considering she’s an Ilnon supporter instead of an Ishir-Kerinston supporter? I don’t think she would tbh. 

he probably didnt fuck his sister in law. probably.  actually yea no he didnt fuck his sister in law. thank god eh. cucking his cousin is also unlikely even IF Stelia is the right age to potential be one of his bastards. Her being one of his bastards would not really change anything (Stelia and Brandeon still aren’t related) but it WOULD be kinda fucked, so, im gonna say he didnt fuck his cousins wife. He definitely didn’t fuck his actual cousin Riala - Princes Zaloren and Treveon are definitely not his kids. Theres 0 chance Riala would cop to that.

point being its... mostly unlikely he had bastards with anyone on the chart, so noone on the chart is his bastard. god bless. there is arguably room in the Tellis chart (specifically than Hintero fucked Marchioness Hana of Tellis), which would actually make Grelan probably his own son, which is a Fuck of a Way to go about it honestly. that would be funny... like extremely hilarious. because even though Grelan is like, 9 years younger than Muna and is not a succession threat, he would be a Shonyul and boy would that fucking shatter the Shonyuls, right. itd be fucking hilarious. whether that is a realistic series of events is a different matter entirely. its in character for Hintero to do it, and it perhaps adds an interesting twist to the idea of the Shonyuls deliberately betraying Brimeon (ie that it was actually a miscommunication between Hintero and Muna, with Hintero being genuine and Muna being insincere in her support of Grelan). Whether Hana would go for it? eeeeeh? She’s not exactly a character so I don’t really know what the fuck her deal is. Maybe she’s down, maybe she isnt. By the time she would be clowning around with Hintero (like march 392 or so, since Grelan and Brandeon are actually born the same year) she already has one kid, Lady Idena. There’s no issue in the succession way, and even were something to happen to Idena, Hana being the title holder (presumptive, her dad didnt die for 23 years after that) would keep her bastard son in succession so long as she claimed him as legitimate. Issues only arise on Hintero’s side as to whether he claims Grelan as his legitimate son.

plus theres the very nice fact that Grelan wouldn’t look out of place if he was hintero’s bastard. The only reason it was obvious that Brandeon was a bastard was because his presumed father, Brasteon Dovaldun, was from a family with a very distinctive appearance, with their red eyes and hair descending from notable Suungkee ancestors (elves, yall). Hintero and Hana, as probably full humans, have no such strange distinctions and its not as though a hair colour difference would be noteworthy. Both have brown hair, so the worlds your oyster in there. eye colour might be more of a tell, as Hana and her husband Yola have fairly light coloured eyes and Hintero’s are quite dark, but its something that can be hand-waved. if the politics or genetics were ever discussed, they would not have posed an issue. it honestly just boils down to whether Hana was down to clown, and since Im the Bitch in control here, I say why the fuck not. I think its fun. I think it plays more into the Hintero vs Muna dynamic which evolves over the course of 425 and the Second Vosti War. its fucking Great, yall. yeehaw. i just think its Neat. it doesnt even need to become public knowledge - all it needs to do is inform public actions. which it would :)c

he would have other bastards tho. is Yola Tellis another of his bastards, or just Grelan? In the 9 year gap its possible Hana and Hintero sort of fell out and that Yola jr is genuinely Yola sr’s son. since Yola jr isn’t Hintero’s kid at all. His other bastards are spread out elsewhere and are likely less relevant overall due to the smaller status afforded by their parentage (aka as not being imperial or imperial adjacent, unless some of them are Zubris or Birtons, who are just as imperial adjacent as the Tellis family). I don’t have charts for those families tho and i dont Plan to Make any. We’re gonna be chucking the other bastards in some minor families for ease. Too lazy to do it any other way :P

so the tl;dr Hintero definitely has bastards outside of Brandeon Wardis (who isn’t really his bastard, rather his wifes, but counts as his because like, legal shit), notably Brimeon IV’s legal heir, Lord Grelan Tellis. This will impact some of the character motives heading into 425 and the Second Vosti War :3c