#ik that asking for equal treatment in this fandom is like. actuslly impossible but

[minamotoz]

I don't know if maybe we're seeing two totally different sides of the fandom, but I know for a fact that Dream doesn't "get away" with anything.

Dream wasn't trying to deny that his fanbase was largely anti-black. He was trying to say that not everyone in his fanbase is anti-black/his entire fanbase is built on being anti-black. (This is coming from a black person). Dream was naive on thinking that there WEREN'T people who were anti-black, in his community, but that's because he largely doesn't dive too deep into his fanbase and only sees the positives of it rather than the negative. Which he tried to remedy by listening to the community and following with the demands to follow black stans, but now he's in a position where some of these stans are being racist and harassing other stans/fans in his community, which Dream has repeatedly said he doesn't endorse, but considering he was repeatedly pushed to follow them, there's a certain context now being shoved in that if he unfollows them, he's a racist. If he continues to do so, he condones them sending harassment and breaking the boundaries that he set up towards his fans.

He also caught a ton of backlash for trying to defend himself when he said the r-word, because even though he explained that thought the r-word meant stupid, people said he can't reclaim it regardless of context and still hold it over his head.

People also call Dream a pedophile and a groomer because of that "16 y/o is legal in the uk joke" and he gets called a manipulative, lying sack of shit for the cheating scandal, while also having the reputation of "siccing" his stans onto people who disagree with him even in the slightest.

Of course he's still widely loved in the fandom, dude has over 22 million fans and most of them still love and support him, but his fandom is also willing to rip and tear into him the minute he "slips up".

"If he was literally anyone else-" well he's Dream. There is no anyone else because according to both his stans and his antis, he's a piece of shit both in an affectionate way, and derogatory way. (Most of the time, it's derogatory).

Sorry, if the rant came off as overly aggressive, but I just came across your post while looking up on a situation on Mcyttwt and saw your dream critical post. I may not love the guy, but I really just don't see the point of saying that he "get away" with anything when I've seen more people cursing his name like it's their dying breath than be supportive and "overlook" his transgressions upon humanity lol

oh trust me, i get you 100% . again most of my post was generally centred on the dsmp fandom itself, because believe me i know the guy gets torn up in any other community. i dont even necessarily hold most of these things against them, like the legal thing and the cheating scandal, i was using them as examples. im sure he has changed from these experiences, but with the mcyttwt community i feel like these things get addressed every once in a while when the criticism and hate from people outside the circle gets too big, but dies down extremely quickly after he makes a tweet about being a dogboy or appearing in the connoreatspants direct. if anything i think the hate dream gets outside the fandom can get a bit too nitpicky, but the problem is people inside his fandom have the direct opposite reaction where they almost never crit him, and the people that do crit him never seem to fully turn against him like other ccs. of course, there is no one like dream and he is a special case but can you imagine what would happen to a different dsmp cc if they said or did at least ONE thing hes done. like, hbomb made a sketchy joke similar to the '16 is legal' joke and used glitches to his advantage to win hole in the wall in mcc similarly to dream using that mod to help get better odds and get a good time on his speedrun (not exact 1:1 comparisons but i think they still work well) but hbomb is the one who now has his reputation damaged in the eyes of lots of mcyttwt users (a lot of them being in dreams own subtwt) while dream gets maybe a slap on the wrist by his fans. again, i know hes a unique case, but i still feel the hypocrisy of dreams fans is unfair when compared to how the same people react to other ccs doing similar things. again, get your point 100% and i am in no way saying dream doesnt get Any Shit Ever, he has a whole kiwifarms thread about him calling him fat and manipulative. im not doubting that he gets no hate, i just find the way his fans in his own subtwt specifically never seem to hold him as accountable as they do people like h, fundy, tommy, techno etc.