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viduamarchive · 7 years ago
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real question tho how does natya feel about putin?
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OF LOVE / OF DEATH.     SHE HATES HIM.     i still need to properly write up natasha’s … Relationship with both the american and russian governments in her current arc,      but it is extremely important to know that she does not endorse them,     nor is she endorsed by them.    &  …  as a bisexual woman,    & someone that has seen her country in its Worst state,     she has a very real and very vocal resentment for the government’s actions and putin’s views on the lgbt+ community,     among other things.     IT IS ALSO RUMORED,     given a rise in the disappearances of neo/n*zi/fa.scists & neo/co.mmunists,     & her being very outspoken against those within those communities,    that she may or may not be responsible for such disappearances.     THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS THIS,    & she knows that they know this.
in general,     she’s quickly become a thorn in the gov’s side because she is extremely vocal on social issues.     she & p.utin may smile for the camera if it’s called for,     but everyone & their mother know that she wants nothing to do with him.     HER ENTIRE MOTIVATION  for moving to russia was never about joining forces with any government organization,    it was about the people,    & trying to remedy a social climate she has a deep compassion for.
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viduamor-moved · 7 years ago
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do u have any headcanons abt natasha's religion? i'm always interested how marvel chara muns tie in their muse's religion w/ the myth based nature of the marvel universe, and with natasha's cultural background it's especially interesting! xoxo
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OF  LOVE  /  OF  DEATH.     thank you  SO MUCH  for sending this in !!!      & in fact,     i do !!     i’ve been meaning to write about it for … more than a year,   honestly but just never got around to it.      but that’s changing   ————     SHORT  ANSWER  :   I  SEE  NATASHA  AS  AGNOSTIC,      with a tendency towards belief in some kind of higher power.     whether that be  GOD  or  FATE,      she has yet to decide.
but i’m sure you’re here for the long answer.      IT’S  IMPORTANT  TO  REMEMBER  THAT  SOVIET  RUSSIA  WAS  MILITANTLY  ATHEIST.     the government seized land & property that was owned by the orthodox church,     persecuted & publicly ridiculed or arrested religious followers,     & did all that it could to erase orthodoxy  ( or even pagan superstitions that were both separate from or intwined with orthodox beliefs   —–   this marriage between superstition & christian orthodoxy was one of the biggest contributing factors to pre - soviet russia’s rich culture )  from the face of russia.     natasha was born about six years after the soviet union was established,      & was raised by a soviet soldier for the first ten years of her life before she was put into a soviet orphanage / training facility for about three years   ( after which she returned to ivan’s care ).      needless to say,     natasha grew up without religion.     & whatever tidbits of religion she did encounter were heavily implied to be foolish little habits,      or archaic beliefs that nostalgic laymen who were useless to the soviet stubbornly clung to.     but that would be an oversimplification,     i think.     there were still people who had not yet reached their middle age when nat was reaching her adolescence,      who were born before the bolshevik revolution,      who still held to orthodoxy or tradition in some way,      who found it hard to let go no matter how much they tried to in public.     in reading  DEATHLESS  by catherynne m valente,      i found a small passage that i think perfectly sums up these people born before the revolution,     still holding to their traditions:
IVAN  HISSED  THROUGH  HIS  TEETH  &  MADE  THE  SIGN  OF  THE  CROSS.      IT  WAS  A  BAD  HABIT,     CROSSING  YOURSELF,     BUT  LIKE  BITING  FINGERNAILS,      HARD  TO  BREAK.       catherynne valente   -   deathless,     chapter 14.
no matter what the people soviet or the government did,     they could never truly erase religion from russia.     still,     they tried their best,      & their best meant a generation born into the USSR that found itself to be atheist.      NATASHA  WAS  AMONG  THEM.     in her prime,     she became a member of russia’s  ELITE,      married to the premiere test pilot,      previously trained under  THE  WINTER  SOLDIER  himself,      becoming the  BLACK  WIDOW in the early  1960′s.      the concept of  ‘ GOD ‘  was never on her mind.      the only  higher power  she looked to was  THE  STATE,     MOTHER  RUSSIA,     &  THE  PEOPLE  SHE  SERVED.      but that changed when she defected in the late 60′s.
it is nothing less than understandable that once natasha defected from the USSR to the west,     she underwent a major shift in thinking.     she doubted her identity,     she doubted her homeland,     she doubted everything they made her believe,     & when she finished doubting,     she started  BELIEVING.
I  GAVE  UP  ONE  COUNTRY  FOR  ANOTHER.      ONE  COUNTRY  FOR  AN  IDEAL.     I  DIDN’T  THINK  OF  IT  THAT  WAY  AT  THE  TIME.      CALL  ME  CRAZY.     BUT  I  JUST  WANTED  TO  BE  FREE.        natasha romanova,     name of the rose (2010),     #1
& free she became.     free to love,     free to choose,     free to  THINK  &  BELIEVE  in what she wanted,      how she wanted.      the atheism she was raised with,      she looked upon the same way as everything else the soviets tried to make her believe.     she looked at herself critically,      & she made herself someone new.      but in terms of direct beliefs,      natasha did not rethink them immediately.      i’d say it was a slow process,      via exposure rather than searching.
during the 60′s - 70′s,      america was still a very protestant / evangelical nation,     & belief in God was pretty commonplace,      & natasha definitely picked up on this.      her first real,     substantial interaction with a devout believer was  MATT MURDOCK,      her on/off boyfriend for nearly a decade,      her fwb ever since,      who as we all know is fundamentally catholic.      though never addressed on - panel in the 70′s daredevil run,     i’d say that natasha was shifting from atheism to agnosticism during their relationship.       however,     religiously,     things got a little more complicated when natasha began a relationship with  HERCULES.      yes,     that hercules.      ancient greek god,     heracles,     son of zeus,     figure of myth.      of course,     we cannot forget that natasha also had a teammate in  THOR  when she joined the avengers.       as someone who was not exposed to the concept of a god for the first thirty or so years of her life,      this was no doubt somewhat of a shock,      even if she never showed it.      assimilating into a nation that believed freely,      being close to a devout catholic,     knowing two separate gods from two separate pagan religions   …   it threw her for a loop.      but it also opened up a whole new world for her in terms of how people actually view their religions.
as a christian myself,     God is a being that is so intrinsic to my life    ——    i literally do not know how i could live without Him.      & i think that through the people she was around,     especially matthew,      natasha saw this.       & through interacting with hercules & thor,      natasha realized that all these ancient beliefs,     these religions,      could have some truth in them since their deities actually  EXISTED.      but still,     there remains a distinction between how natasha views pagan religions whose figures she personally knows,     & how she views a God that she cannot see.     she knows hercules exists,     she knows thor exists.     she has been to mount olympus & conversed with the pantheon,      she has seen odin,      fought alongside brunnhilde,      against loki   ——–   she knows without a doubt that these deities exist.     but she does not pray to them,      she does not devote her life to them,      she merely acknowledges that they are there.      & frankly,      if we’re just talking about hercules,      she’d much rather tell him what to do in a team setting,    & sleep with him,     than offer him prayers & supplication.
but if there were a God that natasha would believe in,      if there were a God that would define natasha’s agnosticism,      it would be the abrahamic God.      she knows the pagan gods exist,      but from what she sees of them,       their power is limited.     they fight,     they make the worst of humans,      & are far too hot headed & proud for her taste.       what she has heard of the abrahamic God,     however,     is that he is good,    merciful,    perhaps omnipotent,      & grants salvation even to those who do not deserve it.      AS  SOMEONE  WHO  HAS  DONE  SO  MUCH  WRONG  IN  HER  LIFE,      is steeped in sin,     kills like it is nothing,      & hides so many secrets within her heart,      this God,     this concept of a higher power is one that is attractive to her.      but for a person this complex,      it’s not that simple.      as someone described above,      she is also a person who has  SEEN  so much evil in this world.     she has seen men fight,     millions of people die in war & of starvation,      & it is extremely difficult for her to reconcile such a world with a creator that lets it fester like it does.      but she also believes that without a higher power,      without anything watching over the world,     she & everyone else is practically screwed.      in terms of her own belief & how it applies to her,      she also can’t quite  …  wrap her head around sin,      & how her own sins can be forgiven.     in  MARVEL  KNIGHTS  vol. 1,     natasha visits a church & goes to confession.     the first time in a very long time,     she admits,     & what she says is quite telling.
BEGIN  WITH  THE  LEAST  OF  YOUR  SINS.AREN’T  ALL  SINS  EQUAL ?      DOESN’T  EACH  ONE  OF  THEM  CONDEMN  US  TO  THE  SAME  FATE ?     IS  THERE  REALLY  A  DEGREE  TO  SIN,     FATHER ?      AM  I  EXCUSED  BECAUSE  THE  SINS  I  COMMITTED  WERE  IN  THE  CAUSE  OF  GOOD ?      CAN  HE  SEE  THAT  THE  DEED  IS  SOMETIMES  ISOLATED  FROM  THE  SOUL ?      DOES  GOD  SOMETIMES  LOOK  AWAY ?        natasha romanova,     marvel knights vol. 1,    #1
these are not the words of a woman who does not entertain the belief in a higher power.     NOR  are these the words of a woman who believes with clarity that this higher power can be defined.     & at the end of the day,      though she may mull over what she believes about God when she drifts to sleep,      she does not have the time nor energy to devote herself to a higher power,      especially when her life is already given to helping people herself.
though she does not yet know where she stands,      she does have a high respect for those who do practice religion,     or even just for the concept of a God.      & it has seemed to me that she thinks it is a concept that  SHOULD  be respected,     & untouched by those who would seek to taint it.      there are two instances that come to mind  ( both from black widow vol. 5 ),      the first when natasha is fighting against a man who calls himself  the  HAMMER  OF  GOD.      natasha thinks this is ridiculous,      insane,     & tells him that she thinks that somehow,    God cannot hear his prayers over his machine gun.     the other instance is when the  ‘ translator ‘  of  CHAOS / the PROPHET,    is offering natasha a part in their new movement to rid the world of evil,     through means that natasha does not support.      she ridicules him by saying that he cannot pretend to be jesus,     that he does not have the right to be the final arbiter of good nor to take away people’s will.      both of these instances are never explained in terms of natasha’s beliefs,     & i think are left there to be interpreted as one wishes,     but to me in context of natasha’s entire history,      they are indicators of a leaning towards belief,      of an acknowledgment of a God,     a higher power,     but nothing further.
ALL  OF  THAT  SAID,     i return to my short answer:     natasha considers herself agnostic,     & perhaps with a side of deism that she can’t quite put a finger on.     to me,    she is definitely  NOT  atheist,     which is what fanon / fandom so loves to pigeonhole her as.     but it’s not that simple,     & there’s ample evidence sprinkled across her canon that says otherwise,     much of which i probably haven’t even touched on here.     i hope this answers your question,     & i’m sorry if this was messy or complicated   ——-   there’s just so much to consider.      religion is never something easy,     because it isn’t just a set of frivolous beliefs,     it’s a way of life.     this is no different for natasha.     & since she herself is so complex,     so multi - faceted,     it only makes sense that her own beliefs are the same.
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viduamarchive · 7 years ago
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man door hand hook car door? Elaborate.
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viduamarchive · 7 years ago
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I don't know much about the black widow, so i apologize in advance if the answers are obvious. did she choose the alias black widow herself? or was it an alias given to her? if so, why has she kept the alias all these years?
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OF  LOVE  /  OF  DEATH.      hi there !!     don’t worry,     the answer isn’t very obvious at all   —–   much of fanon / fandom are confused on the matter,     & canon writers have absolutely  NO  consistency in explaining this,      so it’s definitely one of the muddier topics regarding natasha’s past.      keep in mind,      NATASHA’S CURRENT CANON HAS BEEN RETCONNED,     & IS NO LONGER THE CANON THAT I FOLLOW.      i don’t follow it because it’s stupid.     it’s shallow.     & lazy.    & culturally insensitive.     & very obviously written by straight white men who just like to watch one of the most popular female cbc suffer.      anyway,     here we go   ——
NATASHA JOINED THE KGB IN 1956,      AT THE AGE OF 28.     it was a voluntary choice,     based in the necessity of saving her father figure,    IVAN PETROVICH,     who had suffered fatal injuries during an attack in east berlin.     JAMES BARNES / THE WINTER SOLDIER  offered,    on behalf of the USSR,    a way to save ivan,     a way to extend their lifetimes indefinitely,      in exchange for their ensured loyalty to the government.      NATASHA  ACCEPTED,     & very shortly after she joined  THE RED ROOM.
THE RED ROOM,     was a division of  DEPARTMENT X,     which was the covert scientific division of the KGB.     the RR was responsible for taking 28 female volunteers & training them / biochemically enhancing them to become super spies for the USSR.      these 28 women were given the codename  ЧЕРНАЯ ВДОВА / BLACK WIDOW,     which says a lot in & of itself.     the women themselves in the red room were not taken seriously.     many men thought that their position was vulgar & inferior,     &  MANY  used the title of  ‘black widow’  as a slur,     despite seduction never being a major focus of their training.      though the conception of the title is unclear,     i strongly believe that it was a way for the state to control these women & restrict their freedom.     even giving them a title that they could not choose that denotes a NEGATIVE STEREOTYPE of women was a way to take ownership of them.     but it doesn’t matter why or how it was used.     natasha wore the title like a medal,     & she earned her place as the best & only black widow.
now that that answers your first question,     let’s get to the second part  :  WHY DID SHE KEEP IT ?
IN 1957,     AFTER A YEAR OF RIGOROUS TRAINING & EXPERIMENTATION / ENHANCEMENT IN THE RED ROOM,     & after proving herself as the best,    most skilled black widow of the 28,     natasha married alexei shostakov,     one of the  USSR’s  best test pilots,     & put away her training & her title as black widow in favor of settling down as a housewife.     the couple were highly privileged,     soviet icons,     & were quite the power couple in terms of their being the supreme propagandized example of soviet living.     the marriage lasted 6 years,     until 1963,     when the USSR faked alexei’s death in a failed rocket test.     this devastated natasha  ( & proved to haunt her for the next 20-30 years ),     which,    though it wasn’t exactly the intention of the USSR in faking alexei’s death,     it proved to be exactly what they needed.
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------ ( deadly origin.   #2 )
AS HISTORY RECALLS,     during this time,    NIKITA KRUSHCHEV  was the premier of the soviet union.     he was not at all fond of much of what his predecessors had done,     & worked to undo much of stalin’s plans.      ONE OF THESE,     was the black widow program itself,     which krushchev thought to be ridiculous & far too expensive to carry out moving forward.     however,     NATASHA HERSELF,     JUST RECENTLY WIDOWED,     wanted nothing more than to honor her husband’s legacy &  carry out missions against the west  (  THE  WEST,     she thought,     was responsible for taking her husband from her,     for his supposed death was due to the space race between the USSR & the US  ).      krushchev,     though reluctant,     obliged,     & natasha returned to the black widow ops program for another year of training in 1963,     before she was sent by the KGB to the US for her first mission in 1964,     as THE FIRST AND ONLY SUCCESSFUL BLACK WIDOW.     for the next three years,     natasha held the title of the black widow according to the USSR’s wishes,     until she defected around 1967,     became an avenger,    etc.  etc.
IN 1970,     IN AMAZING SPIDERMAN #86,     natasha returned to action & re-invented her image & designed the sleek black suit which we are familiar with now.      but still    -------    SHE KEPT THE TITLE.      she kept the name that her previous government had given her.      but it wasn’t that she simply kept it,      SHE MADE IT HER OWN.     she was no longer a spy on the wrong side of the wall,     she was a hero doing things for good,     & choosing her own destiny.
however,     during the 70′s,     natasha’s development arc centered primarily around her  WIDOW’S CURSE.      many people that she had grown close to or grown to love,     starting with her husband,     HAD DIED BECAUSE OF HER in one way or another.     & she spent much of the decade trying to rid herself of the curse by helping people & doing the right thing.      SHE WANTED NOTHING MORE THAN TO BE A BLACK WIDOW IN NAME ONLY.      & eventually,     she succeeded.
after her WIDOW’S CURSE arc ran its course,     & comics entered the 80′s & 90′s,     natasha’s title in - canon wasn’t really paid attention to as anything other than just another code name.      but it was given attention when  YELENA BELOVA,     a student of the red room,     wanted to surpass natasha & take the title for herself.      natasha thought this to be foolish,     & horribly misguided,     for the life that natasha has lived to earn the title has been one of pain & suffering,     & never one that she would wish on anyone else ; especially not on a young & nationalistic girl.
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“   WHY BE THE WIDOW,     ROOSKAYA,     WHEN YOU CAN BE YELENA ?     ”     ------- ( itsy bitsy spider.   #2 )
THE BLACK WIDOW  is doomed to hardship.     it may even be considered a curse,     as natasha thought it was so long ago.     but it is a burden that natasha is willing to bear,     because she knows she is the only one equipped to.     SHE IS NOT PROTECTIVE OF THE TITLE,     she simply does not wish for anyone else to have to earn it the way she had to.
time goes on,      & the black widow continues to straddle the line between mystery as a spy & publicity as a hero.     & with that comes stereotypes & misconceptions & personas imposed on her.      but let’s be real  :  NATASHA IS A WALKING STEREOTYPE BREAKER.     everything she does is for a reason.     everything she does proves people wrong in some way.     & natasha,     since the late 80′s / early 90′s,    has been very sexualized both in & out of universe,     & she knows this.    people think of her as a femme fatale,     as a spy that seduces her targets & kills them soon after,      but this is  FURTHEST FROM THE TRUTH.     seduction has never been  ( at least while working espionage for the US )  part of her methods.     if anything,    the fact that people think so is just part of the mass reduction of how faceted she is.     but honestly ?    that’s ok.    HER PAST IS HER OWN.     she is her own woman,     first,    last,   & always.     SHE DEFINES WHO SHE IS,     & no amount of misconception or sexualization or greedy men will ever change that.     & really,     that’s part of what makes her keeping the title of  BLACK WIDOW  so satisfying to her.     she never gives people what they want,     she never plays by anyone’s rules,     & she proves everyone wrong time after time after time.     IT IS HER BURDEN TO BEAR,     as a woman in a man’s world,     as a woman paving her own path.     & it’s just one part of what makes her so strong.
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viduamarchive · 7 years ago
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hey! I’ve seen all of your posts about faceclaims and whatnot and I really value your opinion. how do you feel about natasha’s faceclaim being someone like eiza gonzalez? I’m hesitant to go forward with it because eiza is Latina, and I’m not sure how that would go over. so, I wanted to ask you for your opinion!
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OF  LOVE  /  OF  DEATH.      aww,    this means a lot that you’d come to me omg thank you !!     i’ll just say off the bat that you need to be  COMMITTED  when you racebend a character   —–   & that means doing your research & becoming very familiar with the history of a peoples,     their social/political/cultural background,     & so on.     with that also comes a cultural sensitivity    :     SOME CHARACTERS SHOULD NOT BE RACEBENT INTO CERTAIN ETHNICITIES,     & that always has to do with the history of the character itself.    how were they conceived ?     what were the writers trying to say with the character ?    what makes the character who they are ?      these are all questions you need to ask yourself first before moving forward with a decision like this,     because sometimes racebending can be Very culturally insensitive !
with a character like natasha,     you need to know the ins & outs of her canon background as a woman growing up in 20th century soviet russia,     which also means her association with  COM.MUNISM.     ofc,    com.munism has affected many,    many nations & cultures in the 20th century,     & unfortunately still does today.     were you to racebend her,     you’d need to be Very careful with how you’re approaching her com.munist background  ;  it varies by culture.     for example,     i have seen some people racebend natasha to be a vietnamese woman,     just for the hell of it.     as a vietnamese woman,     knowing the history of com.munism in my own heritage & how it has affected both the native & expatriate viet populations,      i know without a Doubt that most if not all vietnamese people  DETEST  the idea of our representation having  ANYTHING  to do with com.munism   ( seriously,     viet groups all over the place have protested these things ).     that part of our history is not one that we are fond of,     & to make a character that has roots in com.munism vietnamese is really a slap in the face to those of us who want absolutely nothing to do with it.
BUT THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO ALL CULTURES,     it’s just an example of something you need to be very careful with & aware of.     good ethnic representation is not just having as many characters as possible who Happen to be poc,     it’s putting a Lot of effort into knowing the social/political/cultural intricacies & sensitivities.     i am admittedly not as knowledgeable in how com.munism has affected latin america as other parts of the world,     so i would implore that you do your own research & ask those who are familiar with it.      however i also know that there are latinxs that consider eiza to be overused as a faceclaim in comparison to the  MANY  other latina actresses out there  ( nothing against eiza she’s very talented & beautiful ),     so personally i would perhaps continue searching ?     idk,    i hope this helped in  SOME  way jfklsd.    the best advice i can give is  BE CAREFUL,     BE AWARE.     natasha is a character that fits into a very specific time in history,     & with that comes a lot of context you need to take into account.    but of course,     though some instances of racebending her have been insensitive,     i’ve seen some that do her a lot of justice & are really quite wonderful.     good luck !
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viduamarchive · 7 years ago
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PLEASE SAY YOURE SERIOUS ABOUT MAKING YOUR OWN BW TRAILER PLEASE
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viduamarchive · 7 years ago
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I love one woman and her name is... actually I love a lot of women, but wanda maximoff & natalia alianovna can take the cake for this one.
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@nexusbeing
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viduamarchive · 7 years ago
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hey hey so i saw your amazing meta on romanoff vs romanova / natasha vs natalia and i was wondering why you're using natya now?
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OF  LOVE  /  OF  DEATH.      hello there !!!!!      thank you  SO  MUCH  for asking,     cos now i have an excuse to word vomit abt this    —————-    basically,      it has to do with the nature of my portrayal in general.      natasha is very much a woman of russia,      & like i said in the meta you’re referencing,      she is very in touch with her heritage & culture,     despite having lived in america since the late 60′s.     in that sense,     i think of her as somewhat of a diamond in the rough  :   SOMEONE  THAT  ADAPTS  WITHOUT  COMPROMISING.     it’s also somewhat of my own  fuck you  @ fanon / comic writers / artists that think since natasha is  RUSSIAN,    she’s still a soviet sympathizer  ( for the sake of sex appeal,   obviously,    because all the sexy russian girls in western media are secretly double agents for the ussr.     WRONG ).     a great example is uhhhh  this,    &  pretty much any art of current - natya that involves a hammer & sickle,    etc. etc.     i call her  ‘ natya ’  because though she’s been an american for 50 years,     she still clings to her russian identity that is not tainted by unnecessary sexualization.     what fanon / comic writers always do to indicate her russian-ness is to give her a thick accent,     draw art like previously mentioned,     villainize her as a double agent  ( looking @ u,  ultimates ),     & associate her with soviet ideologies.     ALL  OF  THESE  ARE  AN  UNDERMINING  OF  HER  CHARACTER.    names carry a lot of weight,     which is why her name is  ROMANOVA  instead of romanoff.     & likewise,      it is why i choose  NATYA  instead of nat as an indicator of who she is.
natya is not russian because of her sex appeal or imposed stereotypes.     she is russian because of how she was raised,     because she chooses to live in slavic immigrant communities though she has the resources to do otherwise,     because she chooses to keep relics of her old life in russia,     because she prefers to be called russian diminutives instead of anglicized / american shortenings.
& just for practicality’s sake,     here’s a breakdown of the diminutives of  ‘NATALIA’   ( which,    the purest / most original form is  ‘ NATALYA ‘ )     —-      we all know she primarily goes by  ‘ NATASHA, ’     which is basically the next - level - down - diminutive of natalia,     but she also goes by the latter.     it’s just a small preference,     but it doesn’t really matter to her.     ‘ NATYA ’  is an affectionate diminutive,     specifically taken as a nickname.     it’s pretty much the same as calling her ‘ nat, ’    but … russian.     OTHER DIMINUTIVE NICKNAMES FOR THE NAME  ‘ NATALIA / NATALYA ’   INCLUDE:      nata,    natka,     natushka,    natusha,    natanya,    natasya,    natulya,    tatuska,    tatya,     etc.     & here’s where i say that anyone can call her natya.    ONLY  people who knew her in the past / people who are very close to her can call her the rest.     OR,    everything’s just free game to kindly elder strangers & babushkas when she’s visiting russia / slavic immigrant communities.     she may not be it,    but she looks young,     & she still holds a lot of respect for the elderly who may even be younger than her by years,    & frankly she enjoys whatever affection they can give her in the form of names.
but also,    it’s just a mark of originality,    tbh ??    i try to be as original as i can with everything i do with this portrayal,    & i’ve  NEVER  seen another natasha refer to her as any next - level russian diminutive.    so yeah.
TL;DR ?    i love my russian mother,     my oc natya romanova
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viduamarchive · 7 years ago
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What are some tips you have for writing / developing characters long term? Esp comic characters bc of the levels of canon. You’ve just developed Natasha so BEAUTIFULLY tbh
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OF  LOVE  /  OF  DEATH.      hello my darling !!     this is so sweet omg,     you deserve the absolute  WORLD  ok !     so,    as i’m sure we all know,    comics are So Incredibly Inconsistent,     it’s actually hilarious.      & with natasha,     even more so.     personally,     i follow a timeline / canon that  …  i don’t think anyone else does.    at all.     this may be because of preference or ignorance,     but to each their own !!      which i think is at the root of developing a character long term,     especially comic characters.     NO MATTER HOW INCONSISTENT THE MATERIAL MAY SEEM,     THERE ARE ALWAYS A FEW THREADS OF CONSISTENCY THAT RUN THROUGH MOST OF IT.     your job as a writer & presenter is to find these consistencies.     read as much as you can.     read,    read,    read,    until you’ve read everything you can get your hands on   ——   but don’t let the stacks & stacks of comics intimidate you or prevent you from beginning your development !!    i’ve had natasha as a muse for 6 years,     & i only started reading her comics 3 years ago,     & i still haven’t read every single issue  ( i think i have about 50 or so of her appearances left,    which tbh isn’t much At All fjdskl )  she’s been in.     but just from everything i’ve already read & developed over the years,     i have a very firm grasp on what consistent traits of natasha i follow.
& the consistency doesn’t have to be  HUGE  or still considered canon to be valid.     FOR EXAMPLE,     my natasha did not join the red room until she was 28  ( 1956 ).     she was a Legitimate ballet dancer up to that point.     she is not one who buries her emotions,     she is not afraid to cry,     she is an extremely compassionate person,      though with a side of sociopathic / sadistic tendencies.      she is NOT concerned with the red in her ledger,     at all.      she has a deep love for the people of russia & her roots,    as well as an even deeper hatred for the  USSR.     i could really go on,     but my point is that all these things Have Been Canon At Some Point.     however,     current canon has retconned or disowned about half of these.     do i give a single shit ?     does that fact change my portrayal ?    no !!     everything i’ve created for my portrayal is based in canon & based in history & things that make  SENSE & are consistent,     & so i stress that what you do with your portrayal is all a  CHOICE.     i’m proud of this blog because of how much work i’ve put into it,     & i commend all other portrayals for the work they’ve put in,     even if i don’t agree.     but tbh ?     not even canon agrees with canon.     comic writers aren’t going to come bust down your door because you make a personal choice.     if anything,     we’re the ones who are going to get more offended over their stupid & nonsensical & masturbatory decisions,    because we’re the ones that spend the most time with these characters.
so yeah  …  READ.    TAKE NOTES.     DO YOUR RESEARCH.    CROSS - REFERENCE (seriously) !!!!!!   EXPERIMENT.    FIND YOUR MUSE’S VOICE.      & just have fun.
P.S.    having a pinterest dedicated to the character,     as well as an aesthetic sideblog is So Good for developing the general Mood of the character.     if you want examples,     you can find mine at /viduamor,    & @romanva ,   respectively.
GOOD LUCK,     I HOPE THIS HELPED !!!!
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viduamarchive · 7 years ago
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ok so tbh?? Thank You for everything u post abt c*mm*n*sm bc there is Nothing more exhausting than white liberals on this hellsite who Won't Shut Up abt how good & great & magical & perfect c*mm*n*sm is like!!! my grandmother had to FLEE FOR HER LIFE from this shit!!! families were torn apart! every time my white mom tells me how good c*mm*n*sm is I lose 5 years off my life, but at least I can always remember that you, creator of the beautiful Natya Romanova, The Black Widow, is Over this bs too
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viduamarchive · 7 years ago
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could natasha win american ninja warrior ???
of COURSE she could omg ! she qualified for the olympics at one point ( but never competed bc she joined the kgb instead yeet ), and is pretty much superior to a gold medal gymnast. she also is one of the Best fighters / combatants in the marvel universe. she has INCREDIBLE control and awareness of her body. she could get through the course Easily. E Zee Lee.
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viduamarchive · 7 years ago
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hello! i love your blog so much and i hope you have a lovely day
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viduamarchive · 7 years ago
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i love ur tags on all of ur angelina posts on ur aesthetic sideblog theyre all a huge ass mood
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viduamarchive · 7 years ago
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Who is gonna be involved in your new arc? I need to follow, I'm excited!
this is so sweet im DYING ilu !!! i only have a few SO FAR, emphasis on So Far, but @vozvrate is most likely gonna be the most Important in terms of how the arc is even gonna work, @ensavaged / dove’s oc cecilia which she is Makin the blogue for, and @slaede / @aluthor as antagonistic characters. but i’m still workin thru figuring out Whomst Else and How im gonna incorporate people ... and honestly ? if any of my close partners has an idea of how they wanna include their muse in i am SO OPEN. i’m just super slow so this is taking a while for me to contact ppl ... fjkdsljfs
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viduamarchive · 7 years ago
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how can nat romanoff be 80 years old when the universe is only 70??
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viduamarchive · 7 years ago
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Do I have to describe Natya poorly? I mean I think MCU takes the cake on that one. There’s no way to one-up that.
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BADLY DESCRIBE NATASHA.
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