#if you support any hybe group you should do the same

[bandzboy]

i’ve been meant to talk about this but a lot twt stans have been agreeing to this which is we should boycott hybe fully and genuinely! they openly work with zionists (here's a thread that explains more about scooter braun and why you should boycott) and according to what i just saw… apparently yoongi’s movie is gonna have a screening in isnotreal and even after all the protests trucks and hashtags and emails that have been sent to this company this past few months, it’s clear they don't care about what we have to say and so, as much as we all want to support our faves, we have to make this company's pockets hurt. by that i mean, not buying albums or merch or stream music from their groups until something is done! unfortunately, these companies only gaf if money is not put in their pockets! so please download music listen to music illegally wtv you need to do we need to unite this time to make them open their eyes and realize we do not stand for this

[malarign]

Hi! Can I request an overthinker!reader; thinking that Jungwon is no longer giving the reader love and affection because the reader thought he's tired of her but the truth is, Jungwon is busy with the comeback schedule

thoughts of doubt

(when you thought he fell out of love)

contains: idolbf!Jungwon x gn!reader | genre: angst, fluff | tw! the reader is overthinking, mentions of breaking up and implications falling out of love, crying, kissing | wc: 0,8k

reblogs, likes and comments are highly appreciated!!!

author’s note: thank you for requesting! y’all really like angsts, huh? you wanted drama then here you go 🫣 it’s been a while since i had any requests and it made me realize how i love writing them! 😇

“Y/n, please not now,” Jungwon sighed and closed his eyes, a frown painting on his face. “Next time let me know you want to come pay a visit, I really appreciate it but I have no time right now,” he continued and didn’t wait for your response.

You stood as you were in the empty hallway of Hybe. Feeling like your heart had been stabbed you just bit your lower lip and lowered your head. You took slow steps towards an elevator, overthinking once again.

“Is this it? He’s had enough of me it’s evident. Does he still love me?” you asked yourself when another side of you spoke: “Of course he does. He’s probably stressed about his comeback and has a lot on his mind, just like he said.” You tried to reasonably convince yourself, but sad to say, the first voice seemed more plausible.

With a flooded mind, full of thoughts of your relationship. When was the last time he hugged you? Kissed you? Told you he loves you? You couldn’t recall anything like that in the last few weeks.

When you finally reached home you had let out all the emotions and thoughts by crying loudly.

Hours passed by quickly, and more possibilities why Jungwon behaved like he did coming up one after another.

“I’m back!” You heard Jungwon close the door, making you realize how much time has passed.

Thinking about whether you should confront him about your concerns you quickly gathered all the thoughts about his recent behavior.

“Jungwon we need to talk.” Your voice was soft but serious at the same time. You finally looked at him, already seeing reluctance in his eyes and overall facial expression.

“Y/n, I have no time and energy to do that now,” he spoke slightly annoyed.

“Well, that’s what I want to talk about. You and all the ignoring me. You never have time for me,” you said and crossed your arms.

“Gosh, I don’t have time for anything!” he exclaimed. “I don’t have time to go home and see my family, I don’t have time to call any of my friends, I don’t have time to think about anything apart from this comeback!” You heard how he was gradually losing his patience by the way he spoke. “You think I want this?”

“Honestly? Yes, I do think so,” you announced and your words took him aback.

Jungwon couldn’t really understand your point of view. It wasn’t the first comeback you experienced together, so you certainly knew how many responsibilities lay on him as the leader of the group during that time. Just when he was about to respond you continued.

“You don’t even try to make time for me! Can you even recall when was the last time you hugged me or kissed me? When was the last time you said you loved me?” Tears started to brim in your eyes and threatened to spill with every word you spoke. “It made me doubt if you even love me anymore.”

Your last words were all it took to untie the knot of emotions that tightened in him. You watched Jungwon break down momentarily and didn’t know what to think. Was it too much?

“And when was the last time you hugged me or kissed me, Y/n? Throughout all the comeback preparations I didn’t hear any word of support or encouragement from you, none!” He spoke, choking on his tears, making guilt slowly rush through all your body. “You don’t feel loved, but when will you realize that affection works both ways? I also want it. And I need it just like you do, maybe even more.”

His cries made everything clear. You felt extreme guilt watching and listening to him. Everything seemed to be crystal clear now. It helped you realize that not only you didn’t receive any love during the last weeks, but Jungwon also didn’t either.

Instinctively you took slow steps toward him and wrapped your arms around his body, expecting him to push you away. Instead, he pulled you even closer to him and cried even harder burying his face in your neck. You let your tears fall down your cheeks. You were now crying messes, both from strangled emotions and feelings and from finally finding comfort in each other's touch.

“I’m so sorry, Wonie,” you whispered. “I was overthinking everything and didn’t realize it wasn’t you pushing me away, but it was me drifting apart from you.”

“I’m also sorry.” Jungwon pulled away to take a look at you with his bloodshot eyes. “I’m sorry for not making time for you and for lashing out at you, I should’ve talked to you calmly.

“No, Wonie, I think both of us needed that,” you reassured him and both of you smiled at each other. You laid a soft peck on the corner of his lips only for him to capture your lips in a sweet, lingering kiss.

“I love you, so much,” you spoke laying your head on his shoulder.

“I love you more, Y/nie.”

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[nightswithkookmin]

Vmin and common goals

Someone just commented on a recent post how VMin may have chosen not to serve because they had different goals towards their MS.

now I don't dispute that at all, everyone in BTS have their own goals and objectives.

we've seen Vmin interact over the years and we are all very well aware that Vmin's friendship has never been predicated on commonality.

In deciding teams, they aren't always going over and beyond to be team mates because they have common grounds- commonality is a Tae Kook thing. It's established fact in the Fandom.

We have spent so many blogs spelling out the uniqueness of each ship in BTS and BTS themselves have by themselves explained what each person means to them over and over again.

For Jungkook, Tae is the one he has common grounds with. So no, I don't expect Vmin to have common goals towards their MS. They are Mars and Jupiter and rarely gravitate towards the same things.

While V wanted to flaunt his shaved head around Jimin was much reserved on that note and who does he turn to? Jk.

The foundation of Vmin's relationship while not built around common interests and goals is built on mutual respect, love and appreciation for who they each are. It's built on the mutual need for support and holding space- safe space emotionally and spiritually for each to replenish, heal and grow together.

On that, Vmin has always, to me being more superior to any other ship in BTS because to me that sort of intimacy between people is priceless.

Having someone you lean on, tell your secrets to, share your vulnerabilities with, be there for you at your lowest point fight for you and defend you is just divine and any one who has this level of intimacy from another human being is truly blessed.

Jikook are that too- is what we are saying. They are that and more.

If you pay close attention to the sort of conversations they say they have- coupled with their need to be both emotionally and physically close to eachother it doesn't take much to figure out that those two are intimate partners too.

You can't hide intimacy I keep saying.

So given as Jikook and Vmin are both intimately close to each other, you should understand why I think Jikook just ended Vmin if physical and emotional support and companionship is the reason they chose to go into MS together.

This is not about common goals. If it were, Tae Kook would have been the ones to serve together. They live for the thrill and adventure. There's a reason there's so many conspiracy and misunderstanding around Tae Kook's friendship with the constant, they said they both wanted this, they both wanted that but someone or big bad hybe is keeping them apart.

Except now it's not hybe, it's his tattoos getting in his way. They say.

It would make so much sense for Tae Kook to serve together too if the whole reason for choosing to be comps hinged on their goals.

Tae talked about his goals for MS in the live and he talked about wanting to build his body and becoming strong physically so he doesn't get shoved around and so he can do lots of concerts. He said he's taking risks with his unit but knows exactly what he is doing.

What are Jungkook's goals too? What is informing his decision to go with Jimin? Why not go with Namjoon then?

We've seen Jungkook hesitate to choose teams where Jimin was in a team which conflicted with his goals. We've seen him cheat to be on teams with Jimin even though he said he didn't want to be on that team. We've seen him say he want one group but end up in a group with Jimin- if a person keeps acting this way isn't his goal Jimin? To be wherever JM is?

Isn't that a sign of severe form of attachment too?

If Vmin's attachment is soulmates what the heck is Jikook's attachment is my question cos those two attachment is very nuanced between them.

If it's all about common goals he knows what he needed to do to achieve those goals and yet here he is. Picking trash at dawn and falling in line.

Jikook is a special kind of love.

And has it occurred to anyone they are each other's companions? Years ago I kept saying idols need companionship to function else they will mentally expire. I screamed at hybe to let Tae have a girlfriend or boyfriend because his need for intimacy wasn't being fully met and that was taking a toll on him.

I said Jikook don't look like they have intimacy issues to me. Out of all the boys, they were the ones most content.

But has it occurred to anyone that perhaps they were content and could be highly functional because they each propped the other up?

TRUE COMPANIONSHIP.

If JM wasn't in JK's life I doubt he could have BTS at all. Which is facts given as he nearly even left the group but for Jimin asking him to stay.

Jimin grounds him when he's up in his idealistic adventurism.

Jimin is there to remind him why he is there. To remind to be subservient and not so rebellious, to comfort him when he's under mental pressure from trying to conform to a life so out of his realm of possibility. He is non conformist at his core and MS is bound to be tough on him.

Listent to the members when they say even Angel Hobi seems tamed.

That place will tame Jungkook and its going to be hard on him.

Jimin is what the doctor ordered.

This is about companionship plain and simple. Let's call a spade a spade and not a big fat spoon.

Do you know Jimin's goals towards serving too????

He doesn't want to gain weight, he can't stand being away for 1.5 years, it's going to drive him mad.

THIS IS JIKOOK CHOOSING THEIR MENTAL HEALTH AND SANITY OVER THEIR NEED FOR ADVENTURISM OR WILD EXPERIENCES.

And the fact Jimin is all this for V and he didn't choose this over his desire to chase the thrill tells you just what he values and prioritizes.

He has psyched himself up. He can do this with or without Jimin but for Jikook they need eachother and that more important to them.

Nevermind that, even married couples breakup where their goals and priorities don't aline and they go another way. So no, don't tell me this make or break moment is because they have different goals as if that in itself don't matter.

And sure, since they are just friends we can forgive that. It's not really a big deal honestly. I will ditch yall for pussy too🥲

And yes we have seen Jimin Ditch V over and over for the D- remember when he called V crying and V asked him to come over but turns out he was in JK's room caressing phone screens with him?

If Vmin's goals don't align that's fine, Jikook's aligned perfectly well.

The universe must be pulling strings on their behalf.

They will come out even more closer than before and watch then explain how it's because of their shared experiences in the ditch

JIKOOK RULES. ITS GAME OVER FOR ALL SHIPS.

CLOSED CASKET!

[floradinterlunium]

When Rationality Becomes Irrational

The number one reason people refuse to accept or admit the obvious nature of Jikook’s relationship is not because of Homophobia or Taekook, it’s because of excessive rationality--Jikook can’t be in a relationship because of the risks.

We’ve all heard the rationalizations:

1. Why would Jikook risk their careers and their bandmates careers over what could potentially amount to a fling? A break up would destroy the group! Jimin and Jungkook are too professional to take such a risk.

2. Hybe would never allow them to be in a relationship. BTS is their number one money maker and Jimin and JK are two of the most popular members. Let’s forget break up, what if they’re outed...that would destroy the group and with it HYBE’s number one source of revenue. So anything that looks suspicious has to be fan service because its financial suicide to allow Jikook to be “real.”

And I will admit all the above is true! Jikook being in a relationship is a massive risk! But this is where rationality can start to impede on our logic.

Yes, it is “irrational” to enter into a relationship with your same sex bandmate in a homophobic country when you are at the peak of your careers...but it was also unavoidable...

Let me explain:

Imagine falling in love with your best friend that you not only happen to work with but also live with. To make matter worse, let’s also imagine that your friend also loves you too. A physical relationship at the very least is bound to happen because at no point are you ever able to escape your feelings...you are with the object of your affection 24/7.

In my opinion,  It is more logical to expect a relationship to blossom out of that, regardless of the risks, then to expect these two individuals to have more self control than a Buddhist Monk. 

It is not rational to expect people to Always behave “rationally.” Thus, whether or not Jikook being in a relationship is rational or not should play no role in whether or not one thinks they are. Because there is no doubt that them being a couple is a risk...no one is arguing against that. All we are saying is risk aside there is no way they aren’t in a relationship because things like GCFT happened:

Jungkook planned and paid to take Jimin to Tokyo for his birthday--A city he said he wanted to spend his free time in on multiple occasions. He then spent a lot of time researching and constructing a romantic vlog of Jimin in Tokyo  set to the tune of a romantic song. No normal unbiased person walked away from that video thinking anything other than this video was made by a man in love with Jimin. 

Risk aside there is no way they aren’t in a relationship because they say things to, and about each other like, “I promised him I’d go even to the moon with him,” or “he’s my I am you, you are me,” or “I want to spend a long time with you” or “my favorite thing is waking up and seeing JK.” These aren’t things Just friends or even best friends say to each other in normal conversations. These are words lovers speak to each other.

Risk aside there is no way they aren’t in a relationship because instead of just flying to Hawaii from Europe, Jimin chose to fly back to Korea, get JK a birthday cake, and plan a birthday party to surprise Jungkook. He didn’t just wish Jungkook a happy birthday like any just “friend” would do, he made it a point to never miss celebrating Jungkook’s birthday with him. That is something a boyfriend or husband would do for their partner.

Risk aside there is no way they aren’t in a relationship because whenever JK looks at or talks about Jimin he has stars in his eyes. Jungkook comes live a lot and he spends the vast majority of his lives either live reacting to Jimin content, talking about Jimin, or becoming like a kid at recess whenever Jimin makes a point to comment on his lives. How can anyone watch JK’s recent lives and not conclude that, that man is in love with Jimin. His behavior is not normal friend behavior. Hobi’s support, and Yoongi’s support is normal friend behavior. They show up for him, cheer him on and even fan girl. But JK takes the cake. He spends huge chunks of time just gushing over JM, Why? Because he loves him.

Risk aside there is no way they aren’t in a relationship because when sick the only person JK doesn’t mind accompanying him or staying in the room with him, even when he’s being stripped naked is Jimin. When RM asked if he wanted them to leave for privacy...JK said yes but no one made JM leave because it’s understood that JM is not like the rest when it comes to JK. That’s a high level of closeness...to allow someone to see you so vulnerable, in a state of helplessness and be okay with it. 

Risk aside there is no way they aren’t in a relationship because they are always together. Band members, staff, they themselves admit this. They are always together on and off break. JK said when they were on break the only members he spoke to were Ji-hope. When members mention them they confuse their names, or talk about them in unison...Jk and Jimin did this or JK and JM are always up late! They are a package deal. We may not see them much now days but we know they are still together a lot because of the way they speak and other’s speak about them as if they are used to seeing them together “JM will come (box) when he gets off.” “JK make ramen for me when I come over.” “JM come eat chicken with me-” JM responds I will come when done. 

Risk aside...Their closeness defies normal friendship closeness. Jikook are human with human impulses and feelings. If they started having feelings for each other there was no avoiding a relationship...regardless of the risk...regardless of Hybe...regardless of the band! No normal human being would be able to stop themselves from entering into a relationship with a person they loved if they were under the same conditions. Every day i grow more sure of the fact that they are together because when I look at them I look at the abundance of footage BTS footage, fan sightings, JIkook statements and I conclude that even though they are well aware of the risks they took it because they knew there was no other option.

Jungkook is more superstitious then Jimin he believes in things like Destiny and from the way he looks at Jimin and behaves towards, protects him and sometimes treats him like porcelain it is clear that this man sees Jimin as his Destiny. Jimin while self admittedly doesn’t believe in things like fate and destiny, he does believe in committing oneself to someone for life and I truly think he sees JK as his life partner...which is why, as careful of a person as he is, he has taken the risk...because JK is his person.

[outsidereveries]

old requests from curiouscat (4th june 2024—14th june 2024)

4th June 2024

will either BLACKPINK or BTS speak up for Palestine? both these groups are so huge, it would really mean a lot if one of them normalised speaking up for it..

wheel of fortune rx, king of wands, 5 of swords rx, the fool, 9 of cups • 2 of cups

Directly, they won't. Both groups are aware what might happen if they did so it's for their best to silently boycott the brands that doesn't support Palestine. I mean, they'll boycott most of the brands! But noone will act directly to talk about the genocide and the whole war because it means they'll lose any beneficial deals.

5th June 2024

hearsays, the fiasco surrounding hybe is way more than that. allegedly, a higher-up wants to take down companies who’s owner by a chaebol or someone who’s (un)significant. they also did it to SK Telekom. what you can see? | orig. different wordplay

I was wondering whether Park Jiwon has someone in his family who is politician (I haven't thought of chaebol tbh), but here we are.

6 of cups rx, 9 of cups rx, 8 of cups rx, the magician, page of pentacles • 10 of cups

As far as I can see, yes, someone in the higher positions wants someone else in the higher positions (both from the corporation) to leave for the sake of someone else. (I sense corruption?). I don't feel that's related to Min Heejin personally but another issue inside the corporation. Honestly, I sense Sihyuk wants to change the CEO of PLEDIS, so there might be another fiasco inside the corporation, but this time in another subsidiary. If you've heard of another thing, I am sorry. I saw this.

can you read about Kim Jinwoo (WINNER) career for the remaining 2024?

2 of cups, 5 of wands rx, the empress rx • strength

An acting deal (either future or current)? Apart from that, as far as I can see, nothing much.

will baemon have a successful song in 2024/2025 outside of sheesh, or should we just expect the same old with yg like always?

the hierophant, page of wands, 8 of pentacles • the world

I believe they will have another successful song with success as similar as Sheesh. I am not sure if it will be more successful or not as of now.

can you read for Enhypen members’ careers after 2027? i would like to know specifically member by member especially those who will end up with office job and I was also interested what kind of industry Jay will switch for if possible. (an update from older reading on cc)

I'll say some possibilities for the boys' job after the end of their contract under BELIFT that I'm feeling.

Heeseung: 8 of wands, the tower | Will continue to work in the industry, however he will be an entertainer (i see variety shows). He doesn't think being an idol suits him the best but at least he's certain that he feels right to be in this industry.

Jay: 7 of swords rx, 2 of swords rx | He seems to switch industries, sorry for typing it again. He hasn't decided what to do so far but it looks like he will stay in the public eye.

Jake: king of swords, judgement | He can be influencer, I see especially streaming on Twitch. He might return to Australia at that point, to be honest. He might be extremely involved into his influencer job.. including him being in the office and this stuff.

Sunoo: 8 of wands, queen of swords | Also an influencer. Might have a YouTube channel as I see the queen of swords, so possibly he will upload vlogs. I also saw he will appear on a dating show in the future. Compared to Jake, Sunoo might hire someone to help him instead. He seems to not understand some of the things that has to follow (related to laws).

Sunghoon: 8 of pentacles, king of wands | Will stay as an idol (out of everyone, he loves this the most), he will leave HYBE/BELIFT. For some reason, I saw he might be in PAIX PER MIL in the future. If not, then a company with a lot of creative freedom. It looks like it will be small.

Jungwon: 8 of wands, the lovers | If he's single, creating a small business with his future significant other. He might help her out with the administrative stuff, the shipping things and so on. If he's taken, either with his current one or .. next.

Niki: 5 of swords rx, 10 of cups | In my mind I first saw 3 of wands reversed before these 2, so he'll be in Japan. I see him graduating school if he didn't. If he did in Korea, I see him validing his education in Japan and then working somewhere. (I am uneducated here, sorry) I don't see specific job, but for sure he won't be in the public eye.

7th June 2024

can you do a current check up on ateez members? how they’re doing since their recent comeback?

Seonghwa: 2 of wands

Hongjoong: the moon

Yunho: 10 of wands

Yeosang: 7 of cups

San: knight of pentacles

Mingi: 9 of wands

Wooyoung: 10 of pentacles

Jongho: 9 of swords rx + 8 of wands rx

Almost all of the boys seem to feel good. Most of them are focused on their solo journey (individual gigs). I see 2 of them focusing on other things, so I'll start with them.

Hongjoong is focusing on himself and his intuition. There's advice he needs from his guides. Whether he's religious or not, it seems to be important.

Jongho feels quite in a loop. It feels everything is happening too fast and he doesn't know what to do. He might compares himself to the rest of ATEEZ because they know what to do, but he doesn't.

For the rest, the main pattern I see are the offers they have for individual activities.

San and Wooyoung have decided of them and they started working. Wooyoung seems to be done with at least one of them as it brings him many money.

Mingi on the other hand is fighting for specific activities, he seems to have conflict/s with KQ because of them. He wants one thing, but KQ want another.

The rest of then are choosing what to do:

Seonghwa is yet choosing between 2 of them. So far I sense variety shows.

Yunho chose what to do but the type of gig seems to be very different from what ATINY has seen from him so far. Based on the card, it might be related to acting as I usually connect the upright 10 of wands with responsibilities and duties.

Yeosang is yet to choose so far, he is so happy that he received these offers. He wants to accept all of them, to be honest.

how successful will the upcoming comeback be from skz both internationally and domestically?

Local: the hierophant, 8 of cups, the tower rx, 4 of pentacles • 8 of wands

Uh, the boys have loyal and stable fanbase, but the stays there, compared to these overseas are a very small amount. I believe JYPE wanted them to have a bit higher fanbase, but .. it doesn't work like that, that doesn't seem to be the boys' path as a group. It feels like the fate is destinated for Stray Kids to be more loved overseas. There might be promotions for a week to two and they will be very fast. The comeback behind the scenes might happen to be rushed for a bit because if there wasn't an one, the songs might've been leaked, or something else might get revealed.

Overseas: king of wands rx, death rx, 6 of wands rx, knight of pentacles • the empress

Okay, these cards are a lot worse, maybe the issue is behind-the-scenes-related. The success itself doesn't feel certain and solified compared to their previous releases (I love LALALA by the way). Related to sales, it might be like usual, but I cannot see any specific details so far. Might receive lower amount of sales, like way lower.

is there a collab happening between Deadpool and Stray Kids? i see so many hints from both sides.

king of wands, the hanged man, ace of pentacles • the lovers

I can see it, yes, but it might be released around the time when the group's contract is yet to be (not) renewed. It's still on works.

can you do a reading on why moas (a significant number of them) seem to dislike Huening Kai? i understand having a bias or being a solo stan to one member is fine but some of them purely exclude him a lot when talking about txt as group or when they try complimenting him it tends to sound backhanded. Kai stans say it’s because of his race (being half-white and half-korean) that turns them off towards him. i’m personally not sure, but just curious since i find it a bit strange how excluded he is with txt’s fandom even though he’s a very unproblematic person and never had any bad issues. also, does Huening Kai himself know the way on how some people see him as/how he’s portrayed to people and if so, how does he feel about it and does he want to change it?

Why MOAs (overall) dislike Hueningkai: the moon rx, king of wands, the sun • king of cups

They might not vibe with him at all. I am unaware of the issue and why it happened like that, so if the fandom like the rest of the members, it might be simply because they don't see Kai that much even as TXT member. I'd say various reasons, there's not any specific ones I'm feeling.

Your second question: the world, queen of cups, queen of swords • ace of cups

He seems to be aware and even if he wants to change it, he cannot do much. He seems to be fine with the perception of how everyone sees him and is very thankful for everyone who loves him so far. The energy here is very pure, without any negative emotions.

will bighit music invest on vocal trainer/s? last time i see on trainee a videos, they just learn everything by themselves and just having a dance trainer per se. even jungkook (bts) said he never received a proper vocal training. it is not like all HYBE trainees as good as him tho. they can't make their trainees perform like any other idol anymore.

page of pentacles, knight of pentacles, 6 of wands • 10 of swords rx

Yes, the subsidiary will invest on vocal trainer, I see especially 2 potential trainers. The subsidiary is aware of the issue but it feels like the corporation haven't allow them to do it so far. HYBE will realise that this is serious issue, so they'll allow BHM to hire a one (or in this case, two).

9th June 2024

how jeonghan x wonwoo and this man will do?

8 of pentacles rx, 6 of cups, 3 of cups, 4 of wands, 5 of pentacles rx • the star

The sub-duo seems to do better in Korea rather than outside of there. The boys seem to promote the single more and will be extremely happy to do it. Both of them are extremely perfectionists, so they should be fine with it. + They MISS perfoming for some reason, damn... Overall, yes, they'll do well.

are seventeen aware about palestine? will they ever speak up or even like fan letter about it?

the lovers, 5 of swords rx, wheel of fortune • queen of cups

Currently, some members are aware while others aren't. They might talk about the ongoing.. conflict (it's more than war) directly but I'm not sure when. It might feel the right time when they do it.

i saw a tarot reader say that skz will speak up about something (soon) that will bring in chaos. what they might speak up about?

first try | the tower, page of cups, 6 of wands, king of cups rx, 9 of pentacles • 7 of cups

There seems to be something, related to the boys working alone for some things when they need/ed help. Also, their solo gigs are barely given, there's a "forced" energy from someone who isn't from the group.

second try | ace of wands, the chariot, ace of pentacles rx, ace of swords, queen of wands • 5 of wands rx

Activities, activities.. It migth be Chan talking about something, related to JYPE and what their division are doing, related to their solo gigs. Some of their offers that weren't accepted migjt be rejected on purpose because of envy and ill intentions. The boys might want (or have wanted) to focus on local activities. 3 aces, that's for sure important..

if YGE not having the patience for TREASURE anymore to you is the case, will YGE start to switch their attention to other groups like AKMU and WINNER instead? like start to give these groups with more support and promotion?

8 of cups, knight of pentacles, the empress • 7 of swords

Look, the company supports them as much as they can. Yes, they can do way more than that but both groups, especially AKMU, have shown that they don't want more from the company. I am aware WINNER have mixed relationship with YGE that they want solo gigs, I believe, but not group ones at least currently. Of course, it won't stop YGE trying but it will still feel to some of you not enough. On the other hand, they can try to promote them for sure. The indications are there.

can you do how ateez members view social media and smartphones in general?

Seonghwa: the hanged man

If it wasn't for his job, he'll use Nokia 3310 or another phone whose isn't smart🤠 It's fine if it's for work but that's it.

Hongjoong: 5 of swords rx

Hongjoong is maybe too obsessed when he's on his phone to the extent his mind is slowly changing, he loves being active online, to be honest with you. With positive thoughts for sure but should be careful how often he uses it.

Yunho: 5 of pentacles rx

Similar to Seonghwa, he's not used to use his phone often, possibly because he seems to be perfectionist in his idol job to the extent he is overworking himself. The difference is he tries to use his phone willingly but it's not working for him.

Yeosang: king of wands

He seems to be into doing influencer-related content, like geniunely. He is aware that is his job and he'd use it mainly for that. There's an element that he won't use it for more thatn that.

San: 2 of cups

With positive thoughts. He might talk with someone though.

Mingi: the tower

He doesn't use it that much for releasing content from his personal social medias but rather listening to spiritual-related content. Might not want to use his phone currently.

Wooyoung: 3 of cups + the lovers

The same answer as San.

Jongho: knight of cups rx

Might not want to use it currently, he seems to have low self-esteem. Wish him the best, he seems to have issues with his mental health as it's more prominent.

you were right that the group involved in the recent scandal would be NCT? will another massive scandal among the big3 happen soon?

3 of cups, 8 of wands, ace of swords • 6 of swords

Possibly a dating scandal in a month from (a) YGE artist/s and them ✨not responding✨ because it's idols' public life, but not as deep as what happened with NCT in the recent days.

how enhypen feels towards i’ll-it after the drama between mhj and hybe? – asked collectively

king of cups, 9 of swords rx, the moon • 9 of pentacles

Roughly, the boys, pretty much, don't care. One of them, possibly with big3 water or fire sign/s (I believe Moon astrology-wise might be more felt here), might be not sure how to feel about the group as a whole. This time though is because of one of the girls, the member in question might know bad things.. As I am just a tarot reader and might be incorrect, I don't want to deep dive into who might be these 2 people and the rest of all of it as it's not public. Currently I don't think it should be shared deeper, so I'll let it stay like that.

12th June 2024

can you do an energy check on Youngseo's current energy?

Since it's .. personal, I received permission to share.

5 of wands rx, 6 of swords, knight of cups rx • 9 of cups

Recently someone who's way older than her got interested in Youngseo romantically. She rejected him (I am feeling a male or someone with masculine energy), but he's persistent to win her heart. That person might be foreigner. Apart from that, she's feeling okay. Sorry for the personal stuff. 🥲

will nct dream get involved in big scandals?

Separating the ask from the drama surrounding Haechan.

7 of cups, the devil, 8 of pentacles • ace of cups

Yes, currently it seems to be s*x tape. (censoring on purpose) And no, it's another one.

will Haechan and Johnny be able to save themselves from these allegations?

7 of swords rx, 8 of cups, page of wands rx • 8 of wands

Well.. no. There's a clip that might get revealed in the near future.. My intuituon today... Damn.

how will nct dream's career progress?

3 of swords rx, 2 of wands, page of swords rx • 10 of cups

At its best as it's seen by the bottom card, in the same stair/step/ladder. The subunit won't go far up but won't fall down either. The scandal surrounding Haechan seems to stay relevant for some time.

who in txt will have the most successful solo career in the future (can you rank it from most to least)?

According to the question where I asked for the boys' solo paths,

Yeonjun (Wheel of Fortune)

Soobin (The Emperor)

Beomgyu (King of Swords)

Taehyun/Huening Kai (Queen/Page of Pentacles)

can you do a reading on txt members’ solo careers in the future? what will they be doing? will some of them still be in the music industry? will some leave the industry?

Asked collectively as I'm not sure if 5 readings for each member is suitable currently.

queen of pentacles, page of pentacles, 5 of pentacles rx, the emperor, wheel of fortune • king of swords

All of them seem to focus on these activities who bring them more money to the boys themselves after the payment is received (the shares and this stuff), 2 of them (Taehyun and Huening Kai) might focus more than the rest. One of them might focus on variety shows as the bottom card is usually related to communications, at least from what I saw when the King of Swords (Possibly Beomgyu) is there. With the Emperor though, I am uncertain if that's Soobin as I saw he might start acting. If that's him, then he could suit ones who are historically-related, with the serious genres. Their solo gigs will be different from what they've done so far, so I kind of doubt separately the boys will continue with music as soloists, at least from Beomgyu, Yeonjun and Soobin. The other 2 are with foggy individual path so far. As a group they will from what I am feeling.

Detaching from the reading, Yeonjun (Possibly the Wheel of Fortune) might focus on fashion-related activities. I saw a white light and I immediately connected it with flashlights and red carpets, seconds later I felt Yeonjun. I saw it before the Queen of Pentacles fell.

did you hear about Haechan and Johnny scandal? apparently, girls came out and said that they had a fivesome with them. the same girls said they slept with the other members as well Jungwoo, Taeil and Mark. can you look it to this and see if there’s any truth to this?

page of cups rx, the hermit, 10 of pentacles, 6 of swords, 3 of swords rx • 7 of cups

It seems to be true (everything the girls in question said) as the biggest clue here is the reversed page of cups. The girls seems to be pro* (censoring on purpose as the answer might not be posted in the end) as they wanted money to shut their butts up. All of them payed for what they offered but didn't pay more to not talk and it seems to be on purpose.

I can see it can be true for Jungwoo as I've asked how he could be as a boyfriend in the past but haven't seen for the rest from my rough memory. According to my pendulum and from what I see (it seems to be personal stuff, were they on a yacht?), the rumors are true.

PS. SME is fainting at these accusations, to be honest. I felt really dizzy.

14th June 2024

which gg group will be the most successful and popular of the 4th and 5th generation? a group that has already debuted like NewJeans, Aespa, Le Sserafim, BM and etc., or a group that is just going to debut in the future?

4th gen.: page of swords, king of swords, 10 of wands • 6 of wands

The most successful groups in the 4th generation seem to be boy groups. I might see ATEEZ, TXT and THE BOYZ here. I asked for Stray Kids but the answer was no, possibly because they aren't famous in Korea compared to these 3.

I don't see girl groups but if there were any, possibly aespa, IVE, NewJeans. Beware that I'm saying ones who are famous both in Korea and foreign places.

5th gen.: 3 of wands, knight of pentacles rx, 9 of pentacles • 6 of pentacles

Haven't debuted yet.

is BLACKPINK’s “quiet disbandment” is gonna end up disbanding their relationship with blinks too? (orig. different wordplay and way longer..)

the fool, 8 of cups rx, 4 of wands rx, 3 of swords rx, 5 of pentacles rx • queen of pentacles

It might end to some extent, partly will still stay the same and this seem to apply to the loyal blinks that support all of the girls anyways. to the rest that are/were toxic fans will move on but will stay very, very bitter that the alleged disbandment will happen but the fault isn't the fans' but the circumstances the girls had.

if BLACKPINK is going to be on permanent hiatus from now on (as stated in a previous reading), could you tell us if the girls will do collabs or cameos with each other in there solo careers, or are sick of each other?

the moon rx, king of pentacles, 4 of cups rx, thr lovers, death • the magician

This spread is hard to explain, to be honest. I can see the girls doing cameos in each other's careers, but it just won't be the same? All of them seem to be pretty much sick of each other as of now. In the future maybe but as of now, it looks like a "no".

can you do a i-land2 reading? how many people will debut and who will likely make it?

As I saw they'll allegedly debut 6 members.. Yeah, they'll be 6 for real. (acc. to my pendulum)

Fuko | the magician

Mai | 3 of wands

Jeemin | the hanged man + 9 of cups

Jiyoon | the emperor rx

Juwon | 4 of wands

Sujung | 3 of pentacles rx

Koko | knight of swords + 6 of swords

Sarang | the tower + 8 of pentacles rx

Yuju | 8 of swords + 7 of wands

Jungeun | the lovers + 10 of wands

Saebi | the fool + justice

Gyuri | death + 5 of swords

It was hard to feel the answer of Sujung, Yuju, Jungeun and Gyuri, but this time it was easy to find who will debut.. compared to Boys Planet and RU Next, I mean.

Possible lineup: Fuko, Jeemin, Jiyoon, Juwon, Jungeun, Saebi ; My pendulum also confirmed this lineup. I'll try to explain what I see.

Fuko | Won't be rigged, seems to be liked by many by the time ILAND 2 ends.

Mai | Might be eliminated next, she seems to change companies. As the 3 of wands is upright, I doubt she'll come back in Japan as of now.

Jeemin | The most secured member to debut even by the producers.

Jiyoon | She'll be the rigged member who'll debut in the end.

Juwon | She seems to be happy that she'll debut, especially with someone she knows?

Sujung | Yeah.. Well, it was hard to feel specific answer will she debut or not at first but it seems that most of her fans won't vote for her. It was something related to Mai, wasn't it? I saw it somewhere.

Koko | "Too many Japanese trainees", some Koreans told me in my mind. Might be 7/8th place currently behind the scenes. I'm aware she's currently 2nd.

Sarang | She should take care of her mental health. Her current mentality (by that word I mean her psyche, not her personality; I've always meant it with that meaning) might be why she won't debut.

Yuju | Seems to be disliked. Not from Koreans/international fans but rather from MNET and the show's team.

Jungeun | Could be rigged too, she feels she's lucky, tbh.

Saebi | NOT RIGGED FOR SURE! She also seems to be liked by the watchers.

Gyuri | Will have challenges until the end of her journey there. They seem to be personal.

Who can debut in the end but their places will be allegedly rigged: Koko, Yuju

can you make a reading about HYBE’s girl groups? who will be more popular and successfull in the future? Le Sserafim, I’LL-IT or NewJeans?

According to my pendulum, NewJeans will allegedly be the most successful out of these 3.

According to it, most to least likely to be successful:

1. NewJeans

2. I'LL-IT

3. LE SSERAFIM

According to tarot,

NJ: 2 of wands, king of pentacles

ILI: 4 of cups rx

LS: king of swords + the sun rx

NewJeans will be the most successful, and rich (my intuition said it), out of the 3 groups. I'LL-IT are on the middle ground (like known but irrelevant). LE SSERAFIM on the other hand seem to be irrelevant as a group HOWEVER will be known as individuals. I still see them being on hiatus as a group until their disbandment, I doubt they'll try many times to regain their group popularity. HYBE and SouMu should give up at this point. LS' situaltion is quite tricky in this case as king of swords can be interpreted in many ways, so I added additional card. The Sun reversed fell, which in this case pretty much confirmed what my intuition has said so far.

If I want to see MTL from what I see from my cards:

1. NewJeans

2. I'LL-IT

3. LE SSERAFIM (will be inactive as a group; if i ask about individual relevance, LS will be 2nd)

Congratulations to LE SSERAFIM, they seem to take Weki Meki's path from their upcoming comeback on.

can you do reading on how successful will be nayeon’s comeback.. in Korea and overseas?

There were circumstances that made me answer right now, I'm sorry for asking after the EP's release.

Local: ace of cups, 7 of swords, 2 of swords rx, the empress • temperance

Compared to IM NAYEON, NA will stay further back in Korea. Maybe as successful as IM NAYEON but not further than that. Don't feel much, to be honest.

Overseas: 7 of cups, the world, the moon rx, 9 of wands • the high priestess

I cannot remember how IM NAYEON did outside of Nayeon's home country, but I can see it will be appreciated from ONCES for sure. I don't see Nayeon being lucky with any oversea-related achievement except maybe mentioned from Billboard from something that's easy to achieve from an k-pop idol from her rank. If there happens to be something, then ONCES did work hard for sure. I don't feel ✨payola✨ vibes.

[not-goldy]

just because he sings all JMs songs on his live- to promote his music to his unique fans, boost his reach, generate sales from the free ad and marketing- doesn't mean he supports him."

LMAO NO WAY you really think jungkook put jimin's songs out to a bigger audience? how insulting wow. i see now you are one of those jikookers who think jungkook is the bigger artist between the two right... right... how could i forget those stream increases after those handful of lives (never happened btw nice reach jungkook!) or how it boosted jimin's sales (never happened again) no you're right so kind of superstar jungkook to help poor jiminie lmfao give me a break. honestly a shame god free jimin from the likes of you

Screech like a pterodactyl all you want numbers don't lie. And i know you are dumb but Unique fans simply means, in marketing terms, fans of Jungkook who are not fans of Jimin or BTS.

You, as a solo, will count as a unique fan of Jimin while I by virtue if being both Jk Stan and Army as will not count as Jm's unique fan even if he's my bias because I fall within the intersect on the fan venn diagram.

Common sense, should tell you- you don't need to be a marketing expert for this- cross promoting eachother to eachother's unique audience is good for business. If not, hybe wouldn't spend so much money building a platform like Weverse using BTS's massive fan base as leverage and even sometimes deliberately sending notifications of other groups to us acting like it was an accident.

Since they have the same fans, there would be no need for any BTS member to show up on Suga's shows to promote nothing yet here we are- does that make Suga a bigger star than Jimin or Jungkook or any member he features on his show?? Are you stupid?

You are wrong and you know it. Your toxic ass tryna create drama but no one's falling for it mate 😹

I'm glad you enjoy my emojis and gifs- they are cute aren't they😊

Now take your attention seeking drama queen crown off to the misery lounge and bitch complain to the other miserable folks in your band.

You will sit here and complain about Jimin not being pushed and supported and given the same treatment as Jungkook yet turn around puffing your chest out alleging Jimin is bigger and needs no damn support from no one let alone Jungkook.

Choose a struggle. Choose a narrative and stick with it. If JM is big and powerful and successful all on his own why the hell does he need assistance from anyone at all?

And I agree he doesn't need Jk's assistance. What is that going to do for him? Why give Army and Hybe trouble for focusing their energies and resources on the poor helpless ones with the actual problems who need help and support from fans and the company?

Since Jimin got his degree and he knows everything- don't you think it makes sense why Jungkook should be pushed and supported by well everyone? Poor Jungkook he needs to be pushed to be put on the same scale as his successful hyung because he is lacking.

Guys like share and comment Jungkook needs all the help he can get

And turn out your pockets we need money for studio

While we are at it the Pride fight for love shirts are out

Let's do our thing and sell out. We need the money to buy handcream. And keep streaming to keep him on bb🥂

Yall keep setting Jimin up it's crazy

If he wasn't my bias, I wouldn't even want to mention him post him or talk about him to avoid attracting lunatics like you.

Makes a lot of sense why Big OT7s stay far away from Jimin. His solos are toxic as fuck.

And to think, we show random kpop idols love just because BTS mention them or talk about them.

Too many of us had no choice than to accept Jikook just because Jimin fucks with jk. We all have our own ship preferences and yet here we are.

Not long ago I had my own people call me out for supporting Taemin when he'd been accused of making colorist remarks. I could Stan the devil if Park Jimin smiled at him just once. It's crazy the vitriol and hate towards Jungkook even though he's Jimin's favorite- a fact he's made known and iterated over and over.

Naa Jimin, it's time to put timberland boots in the guts of some of your so called Stans. They can't call themselves your stans and hate your family it's crazy.

And I used to hate Army for hating on Jm stans and solos but godamn I'm gonna have to jump on that bandwagon.

Free Jimin from Me, Mr Jimin will pick me choose me over your pathetic ass any day. Wanna bet?

Talking bout yea Jungkook did all that for Jimin but it was in the pandemic years ago- well Hobi went to support him eons ago what's up?

Jk sent trucks to his friends a while ago. So what's your point?

Jimin earned BBs months ago what's your point?

Hybe abused and traumatized him years ago, what's your point?

Nothing you say matters hereon, from your own logic, since they happened years, months, weeks, days, hours and minutes ago- so again what's your point bringing any of them up?

You're gonna act like you know shit when we only know what these men CHOOSE TO MAKE PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.

Imagine judging someone by the little to no knowledge you have of him and what he does behind the scenes.

Not too long ago he was an asshole and fuck boy with zero social skills- now suddenly he's the model friend sending out trucks and buying jewelry for his friends??

YOU AINT SHIT

[uyuforu]

Hello Uyu welcome back 🍓🍓

I really apologize on behalf of the weird armies who wrote you messages. It's good that you spent some time away from here, but I'm glad you're back.🩷🩷

Something happened the other day I don't know if you know about it but hybe and mhj have been in an ego war for a few months using girls (newjeans). Considering Jungkook was in this disgusting industry and company from a young age, he knows what is going on much better than people on the internet. As the senior of the girls and someone who has been through terrible things himself, he posted on Instagram in support of newjeans:

"ARTISTS ARE NOT GUILTY, DON'T USE THEM"

And the armies that have been lynching these young girls for months and being fans of this disgusting company, instead of supporting their own artist jungkook, they took the side of the company. 

After jungkook's Instagram post, the armies went crazy and started saying terrible things about jungkook. Jungkook must have seen it all because the comments are open on his Instagram account for his dog Bam. 

The armies are always overprotective and supportive when it comes to other members, but when it comes to jungkook, their attitude completely changes. There have been  islamaphobic, racist, misogynistic behavior from other members, but army keep defending them.

But the slightest behavior of jungkook is a problem for the armies. They have made up a character for jungkook in their own minds and when he goes out of this character, they try to beat him. Jungkook is just a human being trying to live his life the way he wants to live without hurting anyone. He's just like us and he's not some kind of toy. It was the same in 2019 when he got a tattoo or grew his hair long, but the armies betrayed him. There are many examples of the army's strange behavior towards jungkook in previous years, but I don't want to go any further.

What I really want to talk about is jungkook's weverse update today. When the translators would translate jungkook's conversations with fans, they would always note that he "he wrote cutely". 

He always started his post by saying army. But in today's update, jungkook didn't write army and coldly wrote "I hope you have a good chuseok." (Not really his style 🫠) 

And while all this was going on, I thought of what you wrote for his solar return chart:

"ᯓ★ Chiron 9H can be a sign of JK learning a hard and painful lesson when it comes to spirituality this year. Can be about friendship, online presence, community, fandom, perhaps JK will realize something painful about his relationship to ARMY. "

How sad. He has a great heart and I hope he will have better and more supportive fans.

I hope he realizes that there are as many people who support him as there are who hate him. How ironic that the fans of his own group are upset him, while the people outside the Army are giving him supportive comments.

look I saw that story! Ngl, many armies are on HYBE's side but.. im really with JK for real. NJ are so young, they are artists, and even if they are from ADORA, isn't this label is still part of Big Hit Music? Please correct me if I'm wrong. BUT NJ is still their artists. This is really shameful how they are treated rn.

And... I did say before many times JK will eventually leave HYBE. It's also gonna happen quite soon, like around end of the year 2025, or beginning of 2026. So, to me this isn't surprising to see. Also a proof im not doing weird predictions 🥲

Overall, HYBE are really playing with fire, they should be careful. They are not doing good choices at all, and may lose BTS in the end.

Anyway, thank you for the message tho! I could also do a reading about New Jeans, and the current situation. AND also what BTS feel about this and HYBE... could be interesting lmao.

- uyu

[finallydelight]

When We’re Apart | Ming Chapter

January 23, 2023

''I can't believe they're still not talking to each other.'' Seungkwan said, taking a big bite from his food.

Dokyeom and Soonyoung nodded at his words, feeling the same way. ''I've known her for 10 years and have never seen her that angry with someone. I didn't know she could do that.'' The 97-liner remembered the pang that went through his heart when Ming started yelling out all her frustrations at Cheol.

''She really said that she hates him?'' Soonyoung asked, still in disbelief she could actually say that to their leader.

Seungkwan sighed. ''You're lucky you weren't there, hyung. The moment she said it you could hear a pin drop, it was just silence.''

After Ming had declared her hatred for the eldest member, she had left the dorm and had driven back to Soomin's house. The contact with the other members was limited, a short answer whenever someone had send a text.

''Myungho said he has never seen Coups-hyung so miserable.'' Dokyeom told them, updating them on the state of their group leader.

They all groaned, conflicted by the situation. ''I understand him, though. Yerim shouldn't have lied for so long and then making those comments towards him and Shua-hyung was just unnecessary.'' Soonyoung stated, explaining his thoughts.

''I understand it too, but she wouldn't have lied in the first place if they just had been supportive of her dating someone. Remember when Jeonghan-hyung almost had our heads, because we had invited Jungwoo, Doyoung and Mark to have dinner with us and Yerim?'' Seungkwan argued, understanding Ming's side more than his hyungs's.

Dokyeom glanced between them. ''Well, if we're giving our opinions… I think they both made mistakes and should apologize to one another. Yes, Yerimie shouldn't have lied, but they shouldn't have been so rude to Mark or even Yeonjun once they found out.''

Soonyoung and Seungkwan agreed with their unit leader. Both sides have their reasons to be angry and upset, but both sides also were in the wrong.

''Oh my god,'' Soonyoung exclaimed, grabbing his members's attention, ''yesterday, Doyoung send me a text, asking if Yeonjun is really Ming's boyfriend.''

Seungkwan gasped, while Dokyeom looked surprised. ''Jungwoo called me earlier, but I know he's gonna ask about Yer and stuff, and I don't wanna involve myself more in the situation than I already have.'' Him and Ming had briefly called the day after he confessed to have told Jungwoo she had a boyfriend. She accepted his apology and understood that it was just a misunderstanding. He offered to explain to Jungwoo that he had been wrong, but Ming said that she would rather handle it on her own from now on.

''What did you tell Doyoung, hyung?'' Dokyeom asked.

Soonyoung shook his head. ''I just messaged him back, saying that I don't know Ming's business. I don't want a yelling Ming at my door.''

''Me neither.''

A comfortable silence fell upon them, taking the time to enjoy their food and drinks. The preparations for the BSS comeback required a lot of their time and energy.

''Okay, don't tell anyone I asked this, but who do you think she'll choose? Mark or Yeonjun?'' Dokyeom was curious as to what the others thought ever since Ming said she had made up her mind about the situation.

Soonyoung and Seungkwan both thought for a few seconds, gathering their opinion. ''I think she'll choose Yeonjunnie,'' Soonyoung opened up first, ''they'll see each other more at the company and I don't know, I like Mark very much, but she needs someone with a lot of confidence.''

''I think she wants Mark,'' it was Dokyeom's turn to explain, ''I saw the way they were with each other at the park and they genuinely looked like such a nice couple, they were even holding hands.''

''Apparently Yeonjun kissed her in the practice room.'' Seungkwan revealed to them, not able to hold it in any longer.

''Wow! Really?'' ''Let's go, Yerimie!'' They were both wide-eyed, not expecting her to just kiss anyone in the HYBE building.

''Who do you think, Seungkwannie?''

The man in question sat up straight, taking a deep breath. ''I can see her with both, but I honestly think she'll choose no one. I think this whole thing just drained her completely and she'll tell both that she wants to remain friends or something.''

''That might be the best for her.'' Soonyoung commented, kind of agreeing with Seungkwan's opinion.

Dokyeom chuckled, suddenly thinking of something. ''Maybe we should contact Daehyunnie and ask him if he's free to date her again. The hyungs can't be against that, everyone loves Daehyun.''

''That's actually not a bad idea.'' Seungkwan thought about it for a moment. Ming and Daehyun were a very cute couple back in their teenage days.

Soonyoung shook his head, however. ''I don't think that will work.''

''Why not, hyung?''

''He works with NCT.''

''Kim Yerim! I've had enough of your moping around! You're gonna talk to him or I kick you out, I swear to god!'' Soomin exclaimed as she came back from work and Ming was still in the same position on the couch that she had been in before she left.

Ming pouted at her best friend. ''Just one more day, Min-ah.'' She laid back down on the couch, covering herself with a blanket.

''That's what you said 3 days ago! I don't mind having you here, but you should talk to your members, Yer. They're your family.'' Soomin reasoned.

The idol stared at her hands, in particular at the SVT ring that shined on her pinkie finger. ''I know, it's just… that- I was so mean to them and I'm just ashamed to show my face back there again.'' Ming admits, her eyes welling up at the reminder of her fight with Cheol.

Soomin sat down beside her, stroking her hair. ''I understand, honey. I know you feel awful about what happened, but the both of you said things that you regret and you shouldn't let this continue. Be honest with one another and just try to understand each other's point of view.''

Ming wrapped her arms around her friend, kissing her cheek in the process. ''What would I do without you, huh? I'll go over there later and talk with Cheol, and maybe the other members as well.''

''That's great, Yer! I'm proud of you.'' Soomin expressed her excitement, kissing Ming's cheek in return. The two weren't shy to show affection to one another.

Ming had visibly relaxed, her shoulders less tense. ''You want to do something in the meantime? I don't have any plans.''

''You want to make dinner with me? I went to that market yesterday, and I got a bunch of stuff to use.'' Soomin suggested, pointing at the kitchen.

Her best friend nodded and they both got up from the couch, linking their arms together.

Walking back into the dorm had been a difficult task, her fingers hovering over the buttons for a few minutes before caving in and typing the code in.

It was quiet in the apartment, the only sound coming from the tv in the living room. Someone must be watching a film or drama, she thought to herself.

''Myungho?'' She recognised the voice as Joshua's.

Ming took off her shoes and jacket, and made her way into the living room. What she found was a half-sleeping Jeonghan, phone addict Mingyu and focused Joshua watching some kind of American movie she didn't know.

Joshua was the first of the three to notice her standing in her doorway. ''Oh, Yerim-ah.'' He acknowledged her, gathering Jeonghan's attention as he moved his eyes from the tv to her. ''Hey, you're back.'' Jeonghan stood up from the couch and walked over to her, hesitantly putting his arms around her shoulder and pulling her closer to him.

Ming patted his back a few times, still unsure of how she was standing with the members. ''Yeah, how was Paris?''

He chuckled. ''Good, I had Hoshi as my companion, so not boring at all.'' He joked, easing some of the tension that was present in the room.

''Is Coups here?'' Ming managed to ask, nervously looking around the room.

All three shook their heads. ''He's in Daegu, he'll be back tomorrow.'' Mingyu answered, putting his phone away.

Ming nodded, anxiety building up as they just stared at her. ''Uh, okay, well then, can I- uh, can I talk to you guys then?'' She briefly made eye-contact with each of them, wanting to see their reactions.

''Of course, Ming-ie.'' Jeonghan guided her to the couch, softly smiling down at her.

It took her a few moments to gather herself and start talking, she prepared herself for a talk with their leader. Although, there were many similarities with what she wanted to tell the three of them.

''Uh, first, I want to apologize for my behavior a couple days ago. I shouldn't have stormed into their dorm and started yelling like that, it was really childish of me and I should have handled it better.'' Ming started off, a certain weight of her shoulders as the words left her lips.

''I also want to apologize for not telling you that I was still seeing Minhyung when I had told you that I wasn't talking to him anymore. On top of that, I should have said something about Yeonjun too. Uh, I do want to say that I would have been honest from the beginning if all of you would have been more supportive of me.''

Joshua was about to talk, but Ming stopped him before he could. ''No, just- sorry, just let me say what I need to say first, please.'' He looked surprised at the interruption, but gently nodded his head for her to continue.

''I understand that it was out of love and care for me, because of everything that happened with Jihyun. I really understand that, I do, and I'm so lucky to have people that want to protect me from all the pain in the world. However, you guys went about it the wrong way. I would have been honest from the beginning, if you would have just trusted me and been supportive. The way you treated Minhyung and talked about him was absolutely unnecessary, or texting his members to find out whether I was with him or not.'' Ming unsubtly looked at Mingyu, who glanced down at the ground in shame.

''All I want to say is that I made mistakes, but you made them too.'' She finished her prepared speech, feeling less anxious now that everything she wanted to say had been said.

The three men took her words in, letting them fully comprehend every single thing she told them. They were relieved with the way she delivered her apology in such a calm and respectful manner, she wasn't angry with them like she had been days before.

Joshua sat up straight, taking a deep breath. ''We also have some apologizing to do, Yerimie.'' The use of her name brought a shy smile to her face.

''You're right, we should have just trusted and supported you from the beginning. We saw so many similarities with Mark and Jihyun, and instead of talking to you about it, we tried to prevent anything from happening since the start. I also have to apologize for my behavior towards Mark, I should have given the guy a chance.'' Joshua admitted, the guilt visible in his expression.

Mingyu scratched his voice, her attention moving from Joshua to the rapper. ''Me too, Ming Ming. I shouldn't have been in your business like that. I think we all misunderstood each other, and instead of talking about it, we all avoided it. I'm really sorry for the past months, this will never happen again.'' He apologized as well, trying to give her an assuring smile.

Ming glanced at Jeonghan, who seemed deep in thought. ''Oppa?''

''We've been awful to you, haven't we?'' The emotions flowing from his lips, his tear-filled brown eyes looking into hers.

Jeonghan realized how much pain they had put her through with the way Ming delivered her own apology. They had been hostile towards the people she started to care about and she still assured them that she appreciated their protectiveness and care for her. It was like an epiphany to him. She had grown up, she wasn't that small girl anymore that wanted to follow the older members anywhere they wanted to go. She didn't need their constant attention anymore. She didn't need Jeonghan to braid her hair for her anymore. She simply wanted their support, trust and the reassurance that they would be there for her.

The tears in his eyes caused for a sob to leave the young woman. ''No, don't do that to me.'' Ming immediately covered her eyes, wiping the waterworks away.

''When did you become an adult?'' He embraced her and hid his face in her neck, still used to hiding his tears from her. Two pairs of arms wrapped around the hugging duo, Joshua and Mingyu wanting to join in on the intimate moment.

''So, we're all good again?'' Mingyu asked, wanting to be completely sure everyone got everything out that they wanted to say.

Ming nodded her head. ''Yeah, just please! From now on trust me, I'm not gonna lie anymore.'' She promised them, sniffing her nose from the crying.

''We trust you, Ming Ming.'' Joshua's eyes deeply looked into hers, saying more than his words ever could.

The four of them continued reveling in each other's embrace, content with how the situation was worked out and that things were only going to become better from that moment on.

''Oppa…'' Ming sniffed, the three men turning their heads towards her. ''Cheol doesn't really think that I hate him, right?'' The mere thought of him even thinking she would hold anything but love for him in her heart, would haunt her forever.

''Of course he doesn't!'' Jeonghan guaranteed her, his hand coming up to rub her cheek. ''Hyung knows you love him, Ming-ie.'' Mingyu patted her knee.

Joshua caressed her hair, his infamous smile appearing on his face. ''Talk to him tomorrow and you tell him the same thing you told us. It's gonna be okay, honey! He loves you too much to let something like this ruin your relationship.''

She simply nodded, appreciating their words.

''Thanks,'' Ming smiled, ''we look so ugly right now.''

January 24, 2023

Ming anxiously waited in the kitchen, tapping her fingers against the surface. Minghao and Joshua had left the apartment, wanting to give Cheol and Ming the privacy they needed.

The leader was on his way back from his parent's house and could arrive at any moment.

Her eyes widened when she heard the front door open, sitting up straight in her chair. Her hand left the kitchen surface and she played with her fingers, nervously biting her lips.

Cheol made his appearance in the kitchen, standing still in the doorway once he noticed Ming sitting there. He just stared at her, visibly struggling to come up with any words.

''Hey,'' Ming greeted him, plastering a fake smile on her face, ''how was it in Daegu?''

He nodded his head, walking over to the fridge and pulling out a water bottle. ''Good, my parents asked where you were.'' Cheol leaned against the fridge, expressionless.

The original plan had been for Ming to go with him to their hometown and celebrate the Lunar New Year with his family. Ming's family would celebrate the occasion on a different day, since Ming had given her brothers and father a trip to Japan, where they currently were. Her grandmother had told her to just stay in Seoul and to celebrate with her own friends, since she would be traveling to Busan to commemorate the New Year with Ming's aunt and her family.

The plans had been canceled after Ming had left the dorm 5 days earlier, leaving Cheol's parents to wonder where the young woman was when their son arrived alone. He had briefly told them about the screaming match, leaving out the part where she stated her hatred for him. His parents had been disappointed, but they were confident it would be resolved soon.

''I'll call them later.'' She promised him, a soft smile appearing at the thought of his mother and father.

Cheol nodded, not moving an inch from where he was standing. ''They'll be happy to hear from you.'' He took a sip from his water.

''Can we talk? About what happened?'' Cheol's indifferent behavior made her more nervous than before, it was almost like he didn't care. He pushed himself away from the fridge and took the seat next to her, sitting down with a sigh. ''I think we should.''

She waited for his sign to start talking, proceeding when he nodded his head. ''I feel really bad for how all of that went down. I shouldn't have yelled or chased down Chan, I should have remained calm and explained why I was angry in a civil manner. I'm also sorry for the past months, I should have told the truth about Minhyung and Yeonjun.''

''And I'm sorry for screaming at you, I was really out of line for that.'' Ming finished off, letting out a deep breath.

Cheol grabbed her hand, rubbing his thumb against it. ''Thank you for that, Yerimie.''

''I've been reflecting the past days on all the things you said to us and I realized that I haven't been the best brother to you, and I'm really sorry for that. Instead of being supportive, I was mean and unwelcoming. That isn't fair on you and Mark, also Yeonjun.'' His free hand had made its way to the side of her face, playing with the loose strands of her hair.

''I'm gonna be supportive from now on, okay? I'll still break someone's legs if they dare to hurt you, but whoever you want to be with, I'll give them a chance. A fair chance.'' Ming stood up from her chair and wrapped her arms around the older man, who didn't hesitate to wrap his around her.

She kissed his cheek. ''I'm really happy to hear that, oppa. Thank you.''

''I didn't mean what I said. I'm always gonna care for you, whether you like it or not. You can always come to me with whatever you wanna say, okay?'' His words from 5 days before came back to him, he wanted her to know that he didn't mean a single thing about it.

Ming nodded into his neck. ''I didn't mean anything as well. I was just angry and I wanted to hurt you, because I felt hurt at that time. I don't hate you, I could never hate you. You've done so much for me and it was mean of me to say that to you.'' She apologized again, becoming emotional.

''I know you don't hate me, although I was scared for a few moments but the members immediately consoled me, saying you were just upset.'' He knew she loved him, her words did hurt, yes, but he knew it was out of anger.

''I love you, ddaddu~'' She laughed, blinking her tears away.

Cheol chuckled, having missed the old nickname. ''I love you too.''

''If you don't mind me asking, how are things going with Yeonjun and Mark?'' The leader asked after a few minutes of staying in each other's arms.

Ming shrugged her shoulders, sighing loudly. ''I'm seeing Yeonjun tomorrow and Minhyung hasn't, uh, been responding to my messages.'' It felt weird, but nice to talk about them with Cheol. She wished she had done it earlier than today.

''Just give the kid some time, Ming-ah. I'm sure he'll come around and then you can explain everything to him.'' He comforted her, being sure that Mark wouldn't be able to stay away from her for too long. ''Yeah, I just want to talk to him.'' She mumbled, sitting back down on her chair.

Cheol stared at her for a few seconds, taking her in. ''You've grown up a lot, you know that?''

Ming groaned, already knowing where he was going. ''Please, don't get all sentimental on me now. You know we're both gonna end up crying.''

''You're always gonna be 11 years-old to me, I can't help it.'' He gulped, his eyes already starting to water. ''My parents called me after my first day at Pledis, asking me if I had many friends already. I remember telling them I befriended an 11 year-old girl who was also from Daegu and whose grandmother owned the restaurant we weekly went to.'' Cheol quickly wiped a tear away that had escaped.

''They told me to cherish you, because you were my first friend in Seoul. After I told them about your mother, they said that I needed to take care of you, that children that young needed to be protected from all the evil in the world. I guess I made a promise with myself that day, that I would never let anyone hurt you, and if you cried that it would be happy tears,''

''So, when Jihyun happened, I partially blamed myself. It broke my heart to see you so upset, to see you lose yourself. I know Mark's a good guy, and Yeonjun is always very polite when I see him at the company, but I can't help but think they're gonna break your heart and I want to shield you from that. No man or woman is ever gonna be good enough for you, Yerim-ah. You deserve much more than what you get.'' By the time he had finished his ramble, both of them had tears running down their faces. Ming was overwhelmed by the love he held for her in his heart and Cheol was emotional by how much she had grown over the last 13 years.

Ming got up from her chair again and embraced a crying Cheol, her head safely tucked into his neck. He rubbed her back, calming down her sobbing.

''Thank you so much for everything, I love you so much.''

''I love you, little one.''

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[sizzlingpatrolfox]

I didn't want to bring negativity on my last post about face lyrics but while watching I was reminded of this:

I just can't believe the nerve.

The way they try to paint a narrative of sadness and struggle and misery around Jimin's work, when literally everything we've been seeing about it has been nothing short of exhilarating. He struggled what any normal, flesh-and-bone artist goes through while working on something they really care about, but it didn't hurt him. He wasn't hurting. He wanted to talk about the things he felt and his heartache during the pandemic because he wanted to, not because it was a responsibility.

I don't know where these kind of people were when face was announced and later, released; but pjms barely talked about records or numbers. Some even thought those "goals" that army make for each comeback were too high, and that we should aim lower. People were just geniunely excited for music made by Jimin.

The same can't be said for other group of fans who, from the beginning, had the only and sole goal of "breaking records" and trying to fabricate a successful career for another member by force of remixes and versions.

There's something sinister in turning the support that people were/are trying to give Jimin into selfishness and things that have nothing to do with Jimin.

Either way, let's entertain the idea for a second and say it's about selfishness. Then, why Jimin or people who support him can't be selfish? Why is Jimin always the one who has to compromise and not be selfish?

Why can Jungkook be selfish, just take take take and take, but Jimin should be the one to put part of his life on hold or be relegated to the back of the stage?

If having equal opportunities and having fair support from the company means being selfish, then fuck yeah Jimin should be selfish. Who else is going to be selfish for him?

Or is Jungkook going to say "don't restock my CDs because none of my bandmates CDs were restocked"? Is he going to be selfless and say "split the combined versions of my songs because that's what happened to my bandmates too"? Is selflessness even expected from Jungkook or his fans?

Why weren't Jungkook's fans asked to not be selfish and buy only the same amount of remixes as everyone else got, and stream only one version of the song the same as everyone got? Why weren't Jungkook and his fans asked to not be selfish and stop supporting Jungkook? Why weren't they called selfish for asking more remixes of a song that already had 10 remixes?

This fandom is so used to Jimin being the only one compromising everything always, the only one who should put his life on hold so he can sit back and watch at the rest moving on. They're used to treating Jimin like his best trait is being there for others.

And I will talk about jikookers specifically like I've always done because merely three or four months ago I saw them praying and begging Jimin would do stuff for JK that Jungkook has never done for Jimin. I've seen them begging and praying that Jimin didn't enlist after FACE, not because they might miss him or because they worry about his health or want more music from him, but because they wanted him to be Jungkook's cheerleader during his debut. Even though during Jimin's debut Jungkook was selfish enough to never show up for Jimin. He was selfish enough that the only time he "supported" Jimin in person was the time he happened to be at hybe's so he could use their gym, and Jimin happened to be rehearsing there. But of course, it's only Jimin who's not allowed to be selfish.

[heeheesang]

𝔂𝓪𝓷𝓰 𝓳𝓾𝓷𝓰𝔀𝓸𝓷—𝔀𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓻𝓼𝓮

𝔂𝓪𝓷𝓰 𝓳𝓾𝓷𝓰𝔀𝓸𝓷—𝓸𝓭𝓭 𝓸𝓷𝓮 𝓸𝓾𝓽

sypnosis : a girl named kim yn, debuts under hybe with a ton of attention, making her stand out from the rest. she thought it was fine at first, until she was caught off guard and caught in a scandal with one of the groups in hybe labels.

warnings! cursing & innapropriate jokes (at certain chapters)

"i wonder how many people are going to join our live.." i asked, doubting that we received a ton of attention.

"yn! after yesterday's teaser picture drop, i think we'll be expecting over a hundred thousand to tune in!" minju slapped my arm as i laughed a little and we all had a little cheer before the manager turned on the live.

"oh wow.. that's a lot of people. how long should we wait..?" i asked manager kang and he laughed a little before writing down on the mini white board, "500,000".

"oh wow that's a lot okay... phew!" i said, clearly nervous about showing my face as the rest of the members laughed at my behaviour.

"okay, let's start. shining in the light, hello we are dazzle!" we all greeted and stood up from our seats to bow.

"i'm kim yn, i'm the leader of dazzle, it's nice to meet all of you~" i bowed once again and everyone else did their greetings.

"i'm haruka aori, the oldest member of the group... nice to meet all of you!"

"i'm isabella park! i'm half australian and half korean, nice to meet all of you~"

"last but not least, i'm lee doyeon, nice to meet you all~"

"hello everyone! i'm jang minju! i'm the maknae, nice to meet all of you!"

"once again, we are dazzle! hello everyone, it's really nice to be able to meet and talk to our potential fans before our debut tomorrow. if you all have any questions, do state it in the comments below!"

"not a question, but we really love your twaser pictures and even your mv teaser! we can't wait!"

"woah, thank you so much~ we've been working really hard especially since it's our debut. thank you!" doyeon said and everyone laughed at her.

"how old are all of you?"

"our oldest is born in 2004, and our youngest is born in 2006!"

"yn-nim! please explain what's happening on twitter with you and jungwon sunbae!" minju read it out as they all aw-ed and i face palmed myself, even they knew about it.

"okay okay, i knew this was gonna come, i just didn't know that it'd be coming so fast. before i debuted, i was and i still am, a fan of enhypen sunbae and i used to bias jungwon. but that's in the past so we shouldn't talk about it, right!" my cheeks grew red and i started fanning myself with my hand, my members cooing me and pinching my cheeks.

"you're all so cute! doyeon's pretty eyes, minju's sharp nose, isabella's cute accent, haruka's sharp features and yn's cute cheeks and bunny teeth!"

"oh my, thank you so much..."

"what's one thing you wished you knew before debuting as an idol?"

"that deleting is not the same as deactivating.. this is so embarrassing." i fanned myself even more as my phone blew up.

"are you friends with any idols yet?"

"the sunbae's in hybe are really kind and caring! like that one time yn-nie tripped infront of txt sunbae." isabella said and we all laughed, "it's not bully yn day today!"

"yn's friends with a lot of idols actually. she's a very friendly leader!"

"oh? friends like?"

"well, i was in the same high school as eunchae from lesserafim, haerin from newjeans, ni-ki from enhypen and soul from p1harmony! and they all debuted and we still keep in contact!"

i was definitely going to receive hate after this, i just know it.

"will you be staring in eunchae's star diary, yn-shi?"

"i'm not so sure yet! we'll see! i'm afraid that our time has been used up so we'll be ending the live here! thank you to everyone who has attended our live and we hope that you'll like our debut album! thank you for all the support you've shown us today! shining in the light, we are dazzle!" i said as we all waved to the camera and the manager turned off the live.

"good job today girls. you may have break and start on your training soon, i'll see you tomorrow for your last training and mv release."

"thank you manager kang."

as soon as he left, i fanned myself even more, "yn? you okay?"

"i'm just scared i'll get hate after all that i said. oh my god."

"yn! don't worry! we're always here to back you up! now let's have lunch!"

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[jannahime]

For the flowers sent to Hybe, they were sent by an anti who wants to "punish" Yoongi. The flowers were declared a form of illegal protest and were taken down within the hour and the person who sent it is getting a fine for it. Almost 100% of the time, it's not Army who is sending protest wreaths or flowers but antis who want to make Army look bad. The company has said Yoongi leaving the band isn't even an option on their mind and besides; Namjoon, Jin, Hobi, Jimin, Taehyung, and Jungkook would never agree to continue on without Yoongi. For them, it's 7 or none.

Thank you so much for clearing this up for me it helped a lot @ahhockey . (*this next part isn’t directed to you @ahhockey , this me talking about Solo Stan’s, Antis, and Shippers.*) It’s just sad some anti’s have to act out this way and you know embarrass themselves like. Like I get it, the Anti doesn’t like BTS then move on Anti, but it’s just sad as we are all lovers of K-pop lovers or k-pop enthusiasts that love K-pop, Can’t sometimes come together as a family with the K-pop community you know not just for BTS but for, Stray Kidz, Black Pink, Red Velvet, Seventeen, Enhypen, Shinee, New Jeans, TXT, NCT, Monsta X, you know all these wonderful and amazing K-pop artists (sorry if I didn’t mention other ones those were the ones that came at the top of my head.) and support each other. Because yes they maybe different artists or groups but they all sure as hell are always making us feel happy, you now feeling joy, and are like what gets some us through with some hard days or weeks or months and even years. I really wish fans from other groups would get along with other fans, and the same goes shippers, and solo Stan’s, (*Again not all shippers and solo Stans are like this. But some shippers and Solo stans do take it too far. And I’m talking about the ones who take it too far.*) like I get the shipping that you like to ship but in most cases sometimes things go too far and it really gets to the point where they start attacking other members for hanging out with the ones they ship, you can’t just tell them to fuck off, it’s wrong first of all to tell the idols that and shippers and solo Stans of fans from every group, in k-pop you damn sure as hell know that without any of the rest of the group members they wouldn’t be Black pink, Seventeen, TXT, Monsta X, New jeans, Red velvet, Shinee, BTS, etc. (*you get the point.*) put yourself in there shoes….you wouldn’t like it if someone did the same thing to you, you wouldn’t feel good, as someone who has been bullied before I know the feeling that they go through when someone doesn’t say something nice, and you can see it clear as day on all of the members faces. Especially the one member who is getting hate. Don’t be that top of person. This is a k-pop community that supports all K-pop groups, Be kind and respectful not just to one another but to group and its members. They all work hard not just for themselves but to see us happy and to cheer them on. So please enough with the hate, enough with the malice, and enough with the harassment, this includes stalkers-Sasaengs. Enough is enough. No more thinking that y’all are entitled to do whatever you want, you know damn well that ain’t fucking true, get it in your heads that your idols don’t belong to you, they are not property, they are human beings who have feelings and live normal lives outside of the fame, y’all aren’t entitled to anything, do not put them on pedestals nor worship them as gods and goddesses because they are human beings with feelings, and it’s a shame that some of them have to come out and tell you straight up to basically let them be, don’t be so shameless and embarrass yourself like that in harassing/stalking them. Be better, do better. And if some of y’all get offended by this well I’m sorry, but I’m not saying anything bad, all I’m saying as we are all a part of the K-pop community, we all should come together and support each other and all K-pop groups. I’m sure I’m going to get some hate from some people but hey. It’s not an offense it’s your view on how you view this, but I don’t see anything wrong because I spoke clearly. And once again thank you @ahhockey for helping me understand the BTS article. I greatly appreciate it.

[ask-serendipity-sky]

Different anon from the one (or multiple?) you've already discussed this with. I'm a pretty easygoing pjm all things considered. I think people should support the show if they want (and for pjms the answer is probably not). The thing is since it's probably a paid show, and all of us have limited funds, if you're not buying the show, you can still use that to buy pjm2 which will probably be out by then. I don't think it's a matter of not supporting Jimin since a pjm is probably going to spend that on Jimin anyway.

As for exposure, if it's on Disney plus or something then cool, I'm happy that Jimin will get it but most likely this is a Weverse exclusive so again only people who are already fans are going to be spending there.

Still I'm not fond of calling for a boycott of anything that contains Jimin. It's like I'm not going to vote for BTS for some polls because voting takes energy and time that I don't have for BTS as a group anymore. But at the same time, no matter how many bad feelings I have towards Hybe or BTS, I would never vote against them because Jimin is still in BTS. My feelings about the show are the same. Far be it for me to tell someone to spend their hard earned money on something they won't even enjoy just because it has Jimin in it, but I don't like the idea of calling for a boycott for something with Jimin in it either just on principle.

Hi anon,

This is a reasonable take. Probably the only one and I wish other pjms had this mentality.

It's one thing to decide for yourself that you won't support but another to go around encouraging others to do the same and then being proud about it as if it's something admirable.

I find it hard to be neutral about this, to be honest because people's reasons for boycotting are not good enough for me. But this is just me. Perhaps I'm wrong.

The less viewers it gets, the more we are telling Hybe that we are not interested in Jimin content. It's the basics of marketing.

Pjms will buy Jimin magazines and Dior, which are ridiculously priced, and no one says "oh, I should save this for pjm2" so why does this suddenly apply for a travel show where Jk will be in?

How do people know they won't enjoy it if they haven't even seen a trailer of it?

Whatever happens on that show will be funny and entertaining. Say what you want to say but jikook have chemistry and they are 2 goofballs. What's there to not enjoy? They won't be making out, you all. I promise.

So it depends what kind of statement people want to make. Either they will tell Hybe they are not interested in Jimin or support and treat jikook like any other pair in BTS and get over it for a little bit.

Thank you for sharing. I appreciate it.

[minkkumaz]

hi omi *winks*

boynextdoor members getting your attention at night (maknae line ver.)

han taesan

“pretty..” was taesans first thought as he saw you enter the apartment next to his. you were his neighbor! a very pretty one, in fact.

Over the course of 2 weeks, he’s repeatedly seen you leave and enter your apartment around the same time he does. Your smile was completely glued to his mind.

The way you greeted him made him feel like he was a teenager in love— well he is. Over those weeks, he learned your birthday was coming up soon. He didn’t mean to eavesdrop, but in his defense, your phone call was quite loud.

he (definitely not jaehyuns idea) decided to make a move on you then. He planned to start off simple, to give flowers and a hand made sweatshirt. It took around 5 tries to perfect the sweatshirt to his liking, (and hopefully to yours as well.) He bought all sorts of flowers, watching a video on how to design a pretty bouquet.

then came the day, taesan was nervous to say the least. he had your present and bouquet sitting by the living room. around 8PM, he heard the shuffling noises outside and you unlocking your door.

he panicked and checked how he looked by a mirror, whispering encouragement to himself. taesan soon found himself pacing around the front of your door, bouquet and a nicely wrapped present in hand. taesan held his fist to knock on the door, but retracted it. taesan hovered his finger over the doorbell, but dropped it.

though, inside you stood, watching him through the peephole with a tiny giggle threatening to escape your lips. coincidentally, you were about to give him a tupperwear of extra food you ordered for him at the restaurant you went to.

with a smile, you opened the door and were met with a wide eyed taesan.

“..oh. um! hello.. i heard it was your birthday today and I made you something..”

kim leehan

he was insufferable. your groupmate, the residential pretty boy in your class, kim donghyun. out of all the people you were paired with in aquatic science, it was the boy all girls dreamed to even talk to. not you though, you wanted to be special.

you never really knew where this hatred of him came from. he didnt do anything wrong, he was never rude or obnoxious. he was just.. too perfect. there HAD to be something wrong with him.

the way his glasses sat perfectly on the bridge of his nose, the way he ran his fingers through his hair, the way his skin was so perfect— gosh you couldn’t stand it.

your best friend, haemin would know. haemin hears you rant about him all the time.

“i think you’re just jealous.” he repeatedly responded back.

no! you were not. not that you think…

but here you were, sitting next to leehan. your sworn enemy. you sat there, waiting for him to just ask you to do all the work for the group project, like how everyone else in that class did.

“would you like to exchange contact info? that way we could both talk over the project when we aren’t at school?”

huh. you’ve never heard any of your partners ask that before.

reluctantly, you gave him your number and began talking about the project. to your surprise, he was actually very invested in aquatics. stuff about.. “corydoras” and “shrimp”.. you two had a long conversation about types of fish you liked seeing.

maybe he wasn’t THAT annoying. but he still is.. a tiny bit.

later on at home, you were finishing some extra assignments until a familiar contact messaged you.

kim leehan.

[attatchment:1]

this is my fish tank. the orange one is a corydora named woonhak, the red one is called riwoo……… [open to read more]

you couldn’t be bothered to check it right now.. you had assignments to focus on!

ding..! ding…! ding ding ding!

kim leehan.

i know you’re probably working.. but we should call so we can learn together.. and so i can showcase my other fishtanks..

kim woonhak

you missed your boyfriend. you 100% supported his dream to be an idol, and you 100% understood that being an trainee under HYBE requires a lot of work and time— but you couldn’t help but miss seeing him in the mornings before class started.

while you were an average student, woonhak would be out missing school to practice for his upcoming debut. yes, he always managed to text you when he was free, but its never really the same as seeing him in person.

as of now, it was a cold, snowy winter night. checking the clock, you guessed woonhak would be finishing up his practice around this time. though, his text was later than usual. not wanting to disturb him, you sat on your desk, shuffling your playlist and drawing little hearts on the edges of your paper with his name in the center.

finally, your phone lights up.

woonbaby 🧸💘

look outside

to your surprise, woonhak was at the front of your lawn. by him was a large footprint-made heart in the snow. you gasped in shock, looking over to see him under a cozy red scarf. you could see the crinkles in his eyes from his smile. you wasted no time running down the stairs, exiting the front of your door, completely disregarding the cold weather and staying in your light cotton pjs.

you eagerly dove into his arms, making sure you didnt trample on the snow-heart he made.

“baby! you’ll get sick!” woonhak hurriedly took off his padded jacket and scarf, wrapping it around you with a frown. the tip of his nose was red from the cold, but he couldnt help but smile at your embrace.

you proceeded to invite him into your home, making you both a hot chocolate and cozying next to eachother under a big blanket on the couch.

“don’t tell anybody.. but i wrote our debut songs while thinking of you..”

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hi. i was literally thinking about snow x woonhak ALL DAY. in my christmas mood. id cry if he were to make little drawings out of snow for me. no. in general id cry if i even saw woonhak in person.

also PLEAASEEE hear me ojt on enemies to lovers w leehan. some one sided enemies to lovers and hes just either oblivious or completely confused to why you seem to dislike him. its his goal to befriend you. and who knows,, maybe he’ll pass the friend stage?!

also i took my taesan imagine straight from my hc where taesan would overhear you talking on the phone if he was ur neighbor.. 👆👆

HRHRHDH WOONHAK TT

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HELLOOO MELON i finally have time to sit down and read your ask and this makes me so happy ><

taesan. TAESAN. this man has me giggling n stuff, like reader is literally me i would totally spy on him getting all his things together. also i would be so happy to get a gift from him?! especially because it is homemade :( i can imagine reader having a shocked expression then taesan letting his shyness seep out!

"oh im sorry i shouldnt--"

"no wait!" you say, grabbing his wrist, "w-- would you like some cake?"

(jae in the bushes is gonna tease him so much)

leehan academic rivals actually unlocked the beast inside of me that i never knew existed. he is just so pretty he sabotages everyones attention span..

also that is completely accurately something haemin would say i giggled LMAO

and leehan showing all of his fishtanks is so precious, i know how much he loves them and he was probably so excited to share his little fish with the world. especially if he gets to share it with reader! imagine him naming a fish after you???

"this is my favorite, i named this one yn."

"you named a fish after me?!?"

"how could i not? i think i might love my fish more than you.." he teases.

its the way i would actually be a ticking time bomb and explode in woonhaks arms if he made a SNOW HEART. in my FRONT LAWN. i fear i might be in love with him i love the way you interpret him ahh >w<

plus getting all cozy with him under the covers while drinking hot coco AHHH i actually love woonhak so much he is the sweetest flipping person every im gonna die at school rn..

"hey, why did you get more marshmallows than me?!?"

"because im just so much sweeter~"

"hmm lets find out!" he says as he grabs your cheek.

YOUR IMAGINES ARE SO ADROABLE MELON I LOVE YOU SO MUCH

enemies to lovers leehan is REAL and i completely agree that it would be one sided, he just secretly cares for you so much while you're just like >:((((

[bandzboy]

This just means we gotta find a way to increase the HYBE protests somehow. The question is: how?

While it seems like HYBE is already in hot water for other things (all the Min Heejin stuff for example), if looking at SM is any hint, it might be slow. Perhaps there's a way to speed things up?

At this point, if more HYBE artists would say something—even at a risk—that would mean a lot. Preferably the bigger the name, the better. A bigger artist would probably have more impact if they say something (especially if multiple artists speak), and it'll cause a lot more commotion and backlash if HYBE tried to punish them for it. They don't have to be BTS-big, but the bigger the better.

In the meantime, I'm still thinking about those letters that one pro-Pal MOA gave TXT. Something to let them know about the situation and where MOAs stand. Even if the direct purpose of the letters wasn't to get them to speak up, I hope the letters do help in other ways. And if we could extend that to other HYBE groups, that would be neat.

i think there are plans of there being another protest in front of hybe america again (idk when since i think it's still being planned) but if there is a confirmation i will let everyone know of that and also with what happened today and his stupid statement i feel like a lot of people will be moving

i will be sincere, i kinda gave up on asking idols to speak up. even tho yes, it would be amazing but as someone who was working TIRELESSLY to get any sort of sign or response for a while i just felt embarrassed and a lot people that participated and i have talked with on twitter on my boycott gc felt the same thing and unfortunately, at this point, my expectations on that are very low and i've talked about this many times but there might be two things as to why this is happening it's either 1) they are being silenced for real (wouldn't be a surprise however i don't wanna weight on that too much) 2) they just don't give af and truly are fine with being silent and it's a very hard pill to swallow and probably hard to accept. that's why my bigger goal is to fight against zionism on that company while keeping a safe distance from the people i stan and i hope that is understandable why. a lot has happened in the past few months and the silence is unbearable and i just feel embarrassed to beg grown people to speak up about a genocide. there was one day where i was just sitting in my bed and thinking like damn i just feel like we are all embarrassing ourselves to get nothing in return. these idols might even support palestine but even if they were being silenced they should try everything to make it know that they do support it and getting absolutely nothing is just wild you know what i mean? i hope i conveyed this well and i hope it's understandable. it's always valid to question the morals of people that i have supported for a very long time and have wasted my love and energy on! with that being said, idk what to do regarding that but i decided that is best to focus on what is more important which is talking about palestine, fight against zionism and support palestinians! i was hoping that idols would use their platforms because it's what they should do but i don't wanna waste my time on that regard anymore

[floweryrkive]

honestly, i think cancelling yunjin is so stupid. it's one cup of starbucks.. and buying/drinking starbucks or mcdonalds or anything does not necessarily mean that the person who bought it supports israel. You call her ignorant when ur literally cancelling people over food and other stupid stuff."oh but they support israel!" let me ask you something, is boycotting actually doing something? Theres little evidence on how boycotting has affected anything, and the only thing thats happening is annoying people. I feel bad for the people, and i dont support israel, but its so fucking annoying seeing this happen. Grow up. ive literally seen ppl who supported palestine start hating this whole thing bc of the countless petty and annoying things.

i was thinking about whether i should answer this or delete this because i knew there was going to be someone who would say this exact stuff at one point after i would say i won't be writing for yunjin for now.

let's break it down :

I am NOT cancelling her, nor have i mentioned anywhere that she should be cancelled ( i think cancel culture is a whole lot of toxicity which is another topic) I am merely disappointed in her actions because she has faced this situation before and tell me one thing, if she had faced this same thing before and that time she responded accordingly ( which was deleting the post and apologising actually) would she not know how this would affect her/look abt her viewpoints? Also the fact that Jake from Enhypen ( her co-worker mind you.) apologised immediately after being called out for consuming st@rbucks on live is saying a lot too isn't it?

One starbucks...i can't even think of how stupid this statement is. She's a CELEBRITY. Her influence matters! Why do you think they do advertisements and shit with them?!

It's not just food! It's multinational companies directly funding these terrorist groups that commit genocides! st@rbucks and mcdon@lds are apart of these MNCS! And before you come and say the SK starbucks is not associated with the American one, they are still paying for using the brand name.

No one's claiming she's a zi0nist, but considering the fact that there's literally a hybe boycott going on rn due to them working with 🛵( a very raging zion!st who has literal proof of his support of isr@el as well as messaging pro-palestine armys is very telling) her still buying is obviously going to be showing a lot about her ignorance ???

and don't get me started on boycotting not working because if you lookup on twitter there's enough proof that these companies are pulling strings to literally gain sales that are dropping drastically!

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the main issue comes when this is turned into a fuckass fanwar instead of simply calling these idols out for consuming these products. stop defending her actions when clearly she is aware of everything going on ( she's literally the most online member in lesserafim, she has a coworker who apologised for consuming st@rbucks, there's trucks that are in front of that damn hybe building to urge them to stop working with 🛵) and the people you're talking abt hating this thing are hating it because fans like you are being so tone deaf and blindly defending these idols, turning this into fanwars!

all you had to do was search abt this instead of blindly accepting her actions but instead you choose to come into my inbox telling me to grow up.

i don't mean any malice or hate towards you, but please, look into why exactly people are calling her out, don't lose your moral sense over this. i hope you are able to see the issue soon enough. have a good day.

[mimikoolover]

There’s nothing wrong in acknowledging the difference in how the company managed jm’s comeback Vs jk’s. And there’s nothing wrong with admitting that jk got a huge push that helped him achieve all these numbers while other members didn’t. That’s not diminishing, that’s stating facts. Idk why army keep calling people “solos” “antis” whenever we point out that a lot of shady things have happened with jimin and face. Yes we don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes but we are also not blind. We can see that face CDs are not restocked, we can see that hype did not acknowledge jimin’s number one, we can see that hype approved that shady article about jimin (the Weverse article ), we know that hype said no when jimin asked for a visual album (he literally told us) , we know that the fans were not informed about bbd new rule and that caused a free fall for LC. we also know that the promotion period was too short for a debut album. These things have happened and have affected LC’s potential and it’s ok to acknowledge that and question why they happened. If some fans want to ignore and focus on the happy things then that’s ok but please don’t accuse those who care about jimin as an artist of being akagaes or whatever you call them. Some of us want to the best for jimin and the rest of the group and we would be happy for all the members and their achievements as long as no one gets sabotaged on the way.

no.

to clarify: you're a solo/akgae because you harbour irrational hatred for other members. not because you care about jimin. caring about jimin doesn't involve hating on the people he's closest to and actively sabotaging them.

tell me your motivation behind comparing jimin and jk's solo debut. where are the comparisons involving the hyung line, if you think of yourself as so fair?

jimin's promo is not fans' job. how the members' promos are handled is not fans' job. you don't know what happens behind the scenes. stop pretending you do.

you list several things that you perceive as sabotage and for some reason you think this, which is business, is somehow your job to demand better for.

let me say this again: the members' careers are business.

hybe is not attacking jimin as a person if they say no to an idea he brings to the table. as a fan i want jimin to do everything that he wants to. at some stage that stops being realistic as a business decision and jimin knows that. it's still more than valid for him to be upset about the decision and to voice that. but when he tells you, he's not also saying to you that he wants you to burn the company building down.

it's baffling you expect fans to be informed about billboard rules by the company.

as a fan, you should enjoy the music and the content that your fave creates. at some stage in this fandom this will have to be said:

it's not fans' job to spend thousands of dollars in order to make their faves chart.

it's not fans' job to stream 24/7 from multiple devices in order to increase streams.

it's not fans' job to monitor the company, billboard, scooter, the entire industry.

it's not caring about your fave when you spread hate against other members. it's not caring about jimin when you team up with other fandoms to try to make a racist American man or two chart above jungkook. you're not justified hating, comparing, sabotaging jungkook because the company doesn't do for jimin what you want them to do.

it would be naive to claim that the fandom's frankly bonkers 'support' as they call it did not put bts and the members where they are today. it did.

but bts never ask you to do any of that. when they say they love army, it's not because of the monetary support or the endless streaming.

when jungkook tells people to care more about themselves than him, and that fans are the main characters' of their own lives, you can wonder why he says that.

(side-note: i seriously side-eye every single artist that has seen what bts fans do, and now encourage their fans to do the same and buy and stream endlessly. several tweets and posts asking fans if they're streaming. all of that. bts have never done that).

be honest with yourself and really think about how what you listed above in your ask makes you feel. then think about whether jimin would want you to feel that way.

people gotta understand that what fandom says isn't rooted in reality. the reality is bts do their job and we don't know what the company does, we don't know their personal lives, we don't know feelings they only share with the people closest to them or maybe with no one at all. the reality is you cannot take every move, act, breath, word of a member as gospel and base your entire experience around you and twitter's assumptions over what they mean. there's gotta be some grey space where people take things at face value and just enjoy the damn music.