#if yall wanna get on the incest ship you have to really ride for it some of yall are FAKEEEE

[15-lizards]

I know its a gag now, but Alicent and Otto really do have the average ideal "misogynistic dad forces the wife role onto daughter, but he doesmt fuck her so shes safe" that you see every other single dad do lmao. Still don't get why parent child incest is bad but siblings and uncle/aunt with nephew/niece is okay :/

Dare I say parent child incest is more intriguing bc of this— *gets mowed down by a machine gun*

But I think ppl are fine with Daemyra and the conquerors and Jacela and everyone else bc they are power dynamics that are a bit more removed from the Absolutely Disgusting parent/child incestuous relationship. With siblings and cousins and uncles and nieces you can avoid that direct confrontation, but you’re forced to face it head on when there are father/daughter implications and it just makes ppl too uncomfortable to think about. But babes you can’t escape by turning your head away the incestuous rot has not only affected the groomed Daughterwife but also ur cool sexy edgy niecewife/unclehusband!!! You can’t escape the sickness of it! That’s the point!! None of it is good all of it is a twisted illness!! The empire has to burn!! 🤪

[jcmorgenstern]

I’m just curious What’s your opinion on Morgencest? On books and show

Okay so I keep getting this ask and ignoring it because ngl it always ends up feeling like bait (no offense nonnie, this i just Disc Horse season and I’m Paranoid af) but I guess it’s not fair to the shippers who follow me and have to deal with my seesawing bullshit so here’s the receipts:

(tw for discussion of rape)

The bottom line is: I didn’t always like it, in fact it used to make me quite uncomfortable, but a lot of my friends are into it in a way I can totally get on board with, and tbh I didn’t think it was worth the damage to my blood pressure to try to watch this season without at least having an open mind or being into the idea and the possibilities. I’m a sebjace shipper at heart but I’m always down for an ot3 and I think 3b has been fun and interesting so far, and whatever happens I’m along for the ride.

I like dark shipping–if you’ve poked around my ao3 page outside my SH pseud you will find some Extremely Weird kylux fanfiction you’d probably know that, also honestly I consider some of my shit pretty dark. However, I do kind of find that sometimes clary/jon shipping becomes a little more rape-y (sorry sorry I don’t wanna be an ass but it is kind of true if you scroll through ao3) than what I’m personally into reading, so like most presentations of that is a major squick or turn off for me. If I’m going to explore them I want it to be on….more or less equal footing or at least (no offense) a little more interesting than “man is entitled to girl, rapes her” because well….that’s kind of everywhere and not really the dynamic I want to read or explore. That being said there are interesting ways of subverting that, but most of the time it’s not my cup of tea, ya feel? At that point I’d rather they just play an ultra-competitive game of Mario Kart (clary wins. there’s no other way).

((Also, won’t lie to yall, I’m pretty firm on the “jonathan is a bottom” preference so wow this is top/bottom discourse AND incest discourse in one ask! I’m really asking for it lmaooo. anyway point is most people write jonathan as a truly shitty dom and it makes my soul weep. i did not sign up for knockoff 50sog.))

I think it’s important to say I don’t judge that or think anyone who writes/reads noncon is evilbadwrong–quite the opposite. I don’t think any topic should be verboten or banned, and the reasons for writing or reading that content or any kind of dark content about fictional characters and worlds are varied and personal. However, there are tropes and dynamics that I personally don’t like, and Morgencest tends to hit on a lot of them.

That being said–I’m totally for making my own content that works in a dynamic I want to explore and reading what others have to say. I mean a lot of what I write has a dubcon safety warning on it anyway so take the moral posturing above (i really hope it doesn’t come off that way) with a grain of salt, but like. I’m a sebjace shipper at heart but I like the clary/jon dynamic (and am really obsessed currently with a clary/jon/jace sort of deal like. YALL) so it’s probably unlikely that i’ll churn out 10,000 jon/clary fics bUT i do really like genderbent fem!jon so I may yeet out a lot of that at some point idk.

tldr we’re chill fam but i do sometimes feel the need to roast jonathan (gotta maintain that roast to stan ratio) and “wants to rape his sister’ is a Very Easy Target ya feel