#if we're dealing w a set-up where Bond is resistant to aftercare (oh man. and I do kind of imagine he might be... the tenderness
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halfbaked00q · 6 days ago
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Yea the like, zing is exactly what I'm thinking lol, like... I don't think a hardline "no pain at all" would rly do it for him. And like we talk about, not all pain is bad pain, it can be a sensation like any other, and ofc the big example is spicy food and etc.
I also love your think about deep muscle massages, I think yes bc it fulfills Bond's needs of (1) Q's intimate hands-on attention (2) seeing to his poor abused muscles & probably may ortho injuries (3) being pummeled to death, esp by Q lol.
And yes yes yes to the trust & security (and being ABLE to give it all up - complete sidebar but and this is why Writing's on the Wall is 100% a 00q song) to Q being as/maybe more intoxicating than the physical sensations. Like he can get physical sensations anywhere, but the high of giving himself over entirely to something. that is, also notedly,. cares for/about him back, and is like, fundamentally non-destructive? whoof. (like he can give himself over to Q&C sure but. in the end they're cold concepts & can't care for him back. unlike Q. who is warm and strong and right there and can & will take him in hand firmly but lovingly)
But re: your additions in the last part yes I think it even holds out in canon? That he craves Q's attention even in the early days and probably not consciously. But it's like. watching the Spectre scene with the way he sidles up to Q. He's not entirely coy about it, but you gotta admit there is just that edge of coyness to it. The man isn't full-on sajiao'ing yet, but. we're getting there.
Re: this note, he was surprised by the jab in Spectre so he reacted a lot, BUT if you compare his Ow in Casino Royale to the one in NTTD. Not to become a fake Body Language expert or anything but ummm Casino Royale: Direct Eye Contact with M, no flinch, no blinking, pointedly looking over at the tech, flat purposeful Ow. meanwhile NTTD: bantering, leaning his head away to give Q better accesss (granted the camera angle is different but it looks like Nomi doesn't quite lean her head away that much, not as much as Bond does; she just kind of tilts her head slightly meanwhile Bond is like, *opens up his entire side of his neck to Q*), the eye close (sorry to bring more cat Bond into this lmao, but as we know with cats!! they don't have to blink their eyes as much so closing their eyes is a sign of trusstt), the. the dang little eyelid flutter he does after it 👀
listen maybe it's Not That Deep; but also, maybe it could be, I got shovels & I'm willing to dig.
one thing I lowkey have been debating w myself is, like, is Bond a masochist slash to what degree. Like other than the self destructive streak stuff. Like, would he be into any sort of painplay.
and I'd soorta but not rly but sorta been swayed to the "maybe not? like his life is so brutal maybe he rly just craves tenderness" camp
and it seemed to make sense esp w how he is with Q vs with other people lmao, but like.. I dunno, it didn't feel like it fully reconciled all of the different aspects we see in canon
anyway, where I've landed now is more on the side of yes, but not like anything too intense or hardcore. But I do think a bit of pain would do it for him. and re: why is he such a baby about it with Q, well. the man is a brat and also importantly, a fckn sajiao king lmao. And Q falls for it every time lmao
Bond just loooooves playing up the "🥺 am baby" with Q lol. Everyone else he's 😎 but with Q he's like Qqqqq.. I have an owie see to me RIGHT AWAYYY pwease or Im gonna DIE 🥺. very cat meowing piteously at her mommy until she spins the wheel for her, even though she damn well can run on the thing herself of him lmao
#but yea to the 'has used it in the past in destructive ways' :')#like. it would be a way to self-flagellate and also a way to like. Prove that he can take it/How Much he can Take#possibly also a stubborn refusal to let trauma rule over him & like. brute-forcing through trauma responses after Le Chiffre :')#but yea I do like the idea of Bond & Q engaging in mild painplay#(and also as you know lol. I'm a bit proponent of Q 'biting you biting you biting you')#there was a fic I read where Q didn't want to do that cuz he was like you've taken enough damage in your life#which is very sweet & I think it was cute in context#but also not 2 be cynical but i was like. man I'd be bored w that. I think Bond would be too#the man is a maniac. his idea of a soft epilogue would still involve some batshit crazy shit#but also a hundo percento Bond would loooove aftercare even if maybe if you tried to talk to him about it first#he'd be like *scoffs* nah that's for OTHER people I don't need it. in a I've got this/I'm soo in control of myself I don't get drop#and/or also I feel like. even if he can 'let go' enough to engage in self-destructive play. it's like. another layer of vulnerability#to accept & partake in aftercare ya know?#like. with taking a flogging he can just sort of go into the same headspace as his training#but aftercare is like... it's not just 'taking it' it's like uncurling your armor enough to let someone in to stroke your soft underbelly#and THAT is at an all-time premium#if we're dealing w a set-up where Bond is resistant to aftercare (oh man. and I do kind of imagine he might be... the tenderness#would *flay* him in a way that an actual whipping wouldn't...)#then imagine Q kind of like. stealth aftercaring Bond lol#and/or working little bits of gentle care into their everyday interactions and tricking him into accepting it#(like when u are trying to tame a semi-feral cat & you lure them in with food and like pet them while they're distracted eating lol)#and you get them used to it and show them hey it's OKAY to be pet and accept affection and also want it & ask for it#but yea once Q cracks open his shell. he's gonna be the *whiniest* clingiest neediest guy about it all lol#I think the difference to outsiders is like. minimal. Like he still acts the same he just whines vocally for it now#instead of sidling up to Q to 'trick him' into showing him attention as if we all don't know what this is about
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