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I feel like you could make a very good dramatic re-telling of Caesar and the post-Caesarian civil wars set in a near-future New York.
This is based solely on the tenuous visual similarity between Rome and Tiber Island and New York and Roosevelt Island.
#Sir our '''''''''''''ally''''''''''''' is sat on Roosevelt Island with a whole division#if we attack now he will attack the WTC or whatever
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@yaboyandy-main: I’m going to steal your comments and copy-paste them here, because it’s quicker than screencaps and they are FASCINATING.
“ The one thing with 9/11 in America is that it's not just propaganda anymore, it's actually a pretty big brand. I wasn't alive for 9/11 but the public school system usually requires us to have a "9/11 day" (usually on 9/11) where we watch the slideshow of people dying and it's used to justify the war. Now personally I actually work in the World Trade Center and walk past the 9/11 museum everyday to get to work. They have the museum itself
(most families/victims dislike the museum esp. In the early years) Ground Zero (actually a good tribute) and some other areas of interest like the Burger king that the NYPD operated out of. But in our pursuit to “never forget” 9/11, we have “never forgotten” to commercialize it to hell and back. I see tourists with little gift bags from the stores, there's stands around ground zero selling T-shirts or american flags, and guided tours that they take through the mall
to show were a lot of people died or something. 9/11 is kinda just a joke to people now, many not even realizing it. I see a lot of people taking selfies in front of ground zero and they show me their little trinkets from the museum gift shop (pretty sure the victims families don't see any of the money) I don’t know any other country that monetizes a terrorist attack like this. I’ve never seen anyone leave this museum upset, like none of it was real.
It’s all presented in a very consumerist way that isn’t supposed to offend or upset anyone too deeply but also justify the war that followed. Thankfully it’s my last year at WTC so I can stop thinking about it lol. Ok sorry for hijacking this post but I thought it was an interesting perspective on the matter “
What. The. Fuck. But also, just as horribly, my second thought upon reading this really was “this the most American thing I can imagine”. Capitalism really is obscene.
Meanwhile, I live in the Ardennes, which is one part of Europe that got destroyed during the fights in WWII, so it’s a pretty big part of the region. I’m fairly certain that there are actual tourists going around looking at parts where historic battles happened, actually. So you have got monuments for American soldiers a bit everywhere, and these signs telling you about what it was like, and a bunch of museums.
A big one is in Bastogne. The fights were quite bad there. I have no idea how important the town was in the whole scope of things, but when I casually mentioned to an online friend who was interested in WWII that I was going to Bastogne, he recognized the name. You can buy a lot of WWII memorabilia in that city, so again, bit touristy. But they are like, patches and mugs with the picture of a soldier on it or whatever, so I feel like it still falls into the realm of respectful. Especially because like 99% of these places are museums and actual monuments, so they’re actually educational.
I’ve also NEVER seen anyone roleplay WWII. People still have those old military cars from back then and drive those around, and every child here has at some point climbed around on the tanks that double as monuments (seriously, there are occasionally tanks just standing there), but that’s about as far as it goes.
Thank you for sharing this with me! I hope your next job will be better.
So, time and space, which wasn't on the post I originally wrote this on. So I deleted that one, and am now making it a separate thing. (My apologies again for any grief caused to the OP of the other one).
There are some relatively big differences between 9/11 and WWII, and their depictions in US pop culture. To this day, 9/11 isn't really used in fictional situations, while the Second World War is omnipresent in really big budget productions and has been ever since it was over. (So it's not a question of how much time passed between then and now.) Both were really bad and killed / caused the death of a lot of people, but the War was arguably worse, even if you just count people from the US, so it's an interesting thing to look at.
WWII didn’t happen on US American soil. You guys weren’t the ones who had to live with the consequences in everyday life. (Or, you know. Less than everyone else.)
Also, it didn’t come completely out of nowhere. The US was fairly late in joining in the War (December 1941). By the time it got serious, everyone already knew that there was something bad going on over in Europe.
It wasn’t a one-time thing. Being At War™ was a fact of life for everyone in the country for some years, which makes it a lot easier to make fun of.
And, very, very importantly: THE US WON WWII. It’s why we still see so much WWII content. For a short moment, it seemed like the US as a country and a way of life was in the right. You had won the race for the atomic bomb, you’d made yourself look like the saviours for big parts of the world, and very importantly, you were one of the few places left that weren’t destroyed by the fights. Also, people were too focussed on dealing with the war crimes of Germany to question the ones committed by the US.
Finally, which is probably the most important factor: Both 9/11 and WWII have been heavily used for political propaganda, only in slightly different ways. WWII became all about how great the US is and US soldiers saving European countries. This happened already during the War itself. One of the big achievements of the US back then was how it absolutely turned all entertainment into propaganda, Hollywood and comic books being two big examples. 9/11, the propaganda was about the US as victims. Poor innocent people who never did anything wrong, but were attacked by those evil people in the Middle East, who absolutely need to be invaded for reasons totally unrelated to their natural resources.
Oh yes, and WWII, was over by the time the comedies started. We (people both in and outside of the US) still are living with the consequences of 9/11 and the wars started in its wake.
Anyway, it is an interesting thing to think about, especially given the current row of disasters we're living through. The entertainment complex hasn't really dared to touch them yet, but I'm very interested in seing what happens when they do.
#WTF America#I knew that people were still weird about 9/11#so the school thing doesn't really surprise me#it's a bit freaky but so is pledging alliance to the flag all the time so I can live with that#but the commercialization really is obscene#9/11#WWII
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As far as I understand it Bin Laden was very broadly educated and well read, in a Time interview given in the 90s he mentioned he's read a lot of Noam Chomsky's books. Chomsky is smokescreen and the rabbit hole for any serious person to go far deeper into the esoteric and occult history of western civilization. Striking the twin towers of the WTC is also an attack on the Masonic twin pillars: Boaz and Jachin (which the WTC building represented), and therefore a declaration of war from the Islamic world to the Satanists that run the NWO. There are many other readings and interpretations, but this one is the simplest and most straight forward. It was an ideological attack to strike against: Catharism/Freemasonry/Zoroastrianism/World Jewery/Zionism/Catholicism (whatever other names you want to give it) by a puritanical muslim sect which sees itself as the only remaining holders of truth in the world (The truth of God's name and his message). Only time will tell how successful it has been, the Americans predictably retaliated, Europe predictably is now suffering the consequences, and China predictably is waiting and watching. Overall Islam is going through a great and critical crisis, much like Christianity did during the 300 years after Jesus Christ in the Roman Empire. I expect a similar capitulation (public) and subversion (private) that occurred to the Christian faith to occur in Islam. First flood the developed countries with 10-20% Muslim population. Then educate the 2nd and 3rd generation kids into libshit. Finally have them pervert their own religious fundamentalism and watch it evaporate, replaced by meaningless platitudes and an acceptance of one world religion, one world government, one authority structure and bland homogeneity. The overall picture as far as I can gather is between 20,000 to 150,000 years ago aliens crash landed on Earth and modified the most capable species with enough intelligence to construct high civilization and develop space travel, they put themselves in stasis deep underground and have been waiting some designated number of years for everything to fall in place before they can reveal themselves and use our technology to leave. This is at least what an upper echelon of people believe (say the top 10,000 in the world) and they would have been indoctrinated into believing this slowly over many decades, being shown artifacts, and allowed limited communication with THEM/HIM. Ask the Christians and they will say it's Satan manipulating the rich by promising them immortality if they guide humanity towards a common goal. Ask the Secularists and they will say it's natural for an intelligent organism to collectivize and work towards a common good, hive mind. Naturally the 3 billion living in Asia don't buy into any of this shit, and they believe their own version, to do with cycles of time, ages of great wealth and great destruction and the reincarnation of the soul of every living thing (Lao Tsu, Confucius and Buddha didn't know about germs, viruses or microbes). Every single Asian culture believes it is much older than we would accept in the West, and they try to meme their own version of human evolution- rejecting out of Africa because niggers scare them. Personally I think there is only one truth: Victory and profit. All these stories people tell each other are bullshit, follow the money, look who won out the most. When in doubt, it's always a jew.
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Ground zero
So how is it that an uplifting, unabashedly sentimental drama -- our first look at the selflessness that followed in the hours after the terrorist attacks -- was made by Oliver Stone? This is, after all, Hollywood’s prince of darkness [...] “I wanted to do what I did in ‘Platoon,’ to use realism to honor the people who were there at ground zero that day,” explains Stone, who appeared restless during our 90-minute interview, moving around his office and once asking an assistant for a new chair (“I can’t think in this one”). The policemen “stay alive because of their hearts and their connection with their families. They stop taking their lives for granted, which I think is a pretty important message to get across.” [...]
Now that many of Stone’s critics have seen the movie, written by Andrea Berloff, they’ve changed their tune. Cal Thomas, a leading conservative columnist, called it “one of the greatest pro-American, pro-family, pro-faith, pro-male, flag-waving, God Bless America films you will ever see.”
Oliver Stone and God Bless America. When have you ever seen those two phrases in the same sentence?
So when I sat down with Stone the other day at the film’s West Los Angeles production office, I couldn’t resist teasing him, asking if he’d ever imagined right-wingers like Thomas hailing one of his films. Was there some secret plot afoot?
Stone, who is just as prone to conspiracy theories as ever -- he thinks the New Yorker has been out to get him, based on what he believes are negative pieces on him that have run in the magazine -- offers a pained smile. “I’m not embarrassed,” he says, sitting at his desk, a big map of Manhattan behind him. “Maybe Cal was my brother in another life. I guess they responded to the heart of the movie, which is the best part -- it’s what makes us feel redeemable.”
Still, “World Trade Center” is strikingly different from Stone’s signature work -- somber rather than flamboyant, understated instead of indulgent, elegiac instead of inflammatory. In his other historical films, Stone has always focused on his character’s contradictions and self-destructive zealotry, always keenly aware of his heroes’ failings. “WTC” is so austere and quietly observant that if you didn’t see the credits, you’d think it was directed by Clint Eastwood, not the man who made “Platoon” and “The Doors.”
The one aspect of the film that feels most like Stone’s earlier work is its innate sympathy for men under fire, whether they are first responders reeling from a terrorist attack or bleary-eyed soldiers in the jungles of Southeast Asia. Having earned two Purple Hearts in Vietnam in the 1960s, Stone sees pretty much everything through the prism of that war, which shaped his anti-establishment politics as well as his identification with blue-collar heroes, be they police officers, firefighters or Army grunts.
In an era when studios are notoriously risk-averse, you have to give Paramount a lot of credit for hiring Stone, who was coming off of “Alexander,” a costly dud. Other studios had been leery of hiring the director, citing his erratic behavior and much-publicized fondness for drugs and drink. During the making of “The Doors,” Stone commandeered the Warners corporate jet so he could spend a weekend doing peyote with some Indians in South Dakota. More recently, he lost out on a possible job at Universal Pictures after showing up late and behaving oddly at a meeting with studio executives.
“Universal is a hundred miles from hell, and I had a late thing going for a while,” he explains. “I couldn’t get out of the house. Call it my own case of agoraphobia.” Stone says reports of his drug use are exaggerated, though he says, “I’ve always had a thing for marijuana since Vietnam.” [...] He also acknowledges using psychedelics, which, he says, “liberated my mind and gave me a heart, and whatever success I’ve had is because my movies are from the heart.” For all his excesses, Stone remains one of the most gifted filmmakers of his generation, in the same pantheon as Martin Scorsese and Michael Mann. And in fairness, Stone’s indulgences have always come on his time -- every producer I spoke with said he was well prepared on set, though I’m not sure I’d want him driving carpool at my kid’s school. [...]
“It was hard for us Vietnam vets to see Iraq creep up on us, just the way Vietnam did. I really believe if Bush or Cheney had fought in a war they wouldn’t have put us through all the pain and suffering. I have three kids, including a 21-year-old son. Are they going to be Stealth jet pilots, like those guys in ‘Why We Fight,’ smiling after they’ve dropped the first bombs in Iraq?”
-Patrick Goldstein, “Oliver Stone’s Ground Zero,” Los Angeles Times, Aug 8 2006 [x]
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They are celebrating and laughing at all of the Americans burning to death in the towers and the FBI held these yids for a week until the dust settled and flew them back to Tel Aviv private first class
Ah yes the Israeli "art students" who had unrestricted access to the towers for weeks
It's rael. https://www.markdotzler.com/Mark_Dotzler/WTC_Artists.html
>Nanothermite >fucked up over 1400 cars >didnt burn a single person >paper all over the place you dont understand much about thermite, do you?
911 report and their models were full of BS. The three towers were brought down by controlled demolition. https://youtu.be/sNriYvuNmu8 https://youtu.be/l_Kmyo8KLTM Http://www.ae911truth.org/ TRUMP knew Truth on 911 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNodh9OlTrQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flnhdhxVR6g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoYXihwcp8c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-7bxI_XOoQ The destruction of WTC was an occult ritual. >the Twin Towers represented Boaz and Jachin, the columns at the entrance to the Temple of Solomon >Boaz and Jachin represent the two key energies: ying and yang, male and female, strength and beauty, north and south, up and down (duality - like the Star of David) >WTC builder, Rockefeller, says the buildings are the perfect combination of "utility and beauty"; he also owns Jerusalem museum housing remains from Temple of Solomon >Luciferianism predicts/wants a new age of transhumanism; Kaballah and freemasonry believe one attains perfection by mastering and combining male and female energies >Twin Towers destroyed in consciousness altering event at start of millenium to usher in this new era of transhumanism >Replaced by Freedom Tower where both towers are combined, one up and one down, like a Star of David >2001: Space Odyssey is about man's evolution to transhumanism - he touches the black monolith and transcends human form to a space baby >9/11 happened in 2001, next to the Millenium hotel designed to look like the black monolith >madrid bombing was 911 days after 9/11 >sept 11 is the first day of the coptic calendar, first month is named after Thoth >2001 was the start of the new millenium not 2000 (there was no year zero) >33 years from groundbreaking to destruction pentagon groundbreaking sept 11 1941
https://slate.com/culture/2001/12/bin-laden-s-special-complaint-with-the-world-trade-center.html Yamasaki received the World Trade Center commission the year after the Dhahran Airport was completed. Yamasaki described its plaza as “a mecca, a great relief from the narrow streets and sidewalks of the surrounding Wall Street area.” True to his word, Yamasaki replicated the plan of Mecca’s courtyard by creating a vast delineated square, isolated from the city’s bustle by low colonnaded structures and capped by two enormous, perfectly square towers—minarets, really. Yamasaki’s courtyard mimicked Mecca’s assemblage of holy sites—the Qa’ba (a cube) containing the sacred stone, what some believe is the burial site of Hagar and Ishmael, and the holy spring—by including several sculptural features, including a fountain, and he anchored the composition in a radial circular pattern, similar to Mecca’s. Islam was created by Jews. Take your time, explain away this https://www.scribd.com/document/351436519/Muhammad-s-Inspiration-by-Judaism Jews dominated Arabia and carried genocidal hate for Christians https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/140366/himyar-yemen-al-qaida Judaism and Islam are so similar that one could say that Islam is Arab Talmudism http://www.danielpipes.org/160/the-jewish-muslim-connection-traditional-ways-of-life Erasing Christianity was a Jewish thing before Islam existed http://www.jpost.com/Local-Israel/In-Jerusalem/Massacre-at-Mamilla? Here's the thing, and I say this as someone who believes that the dancing Israelis were Mossad agents celebrating the success of the 9/11 attack, and at minimum, the Israelis had foreknowledge that could have been used to prevent 9/11 which they didn't share because the attack was so advantageous to Israel's interests, but I lost interest in this guy after he interpreted "our purpose was to document the event" as "our purpose [in coming to America] was to document the event". That's obviously not what they meant. They're there giving their cover story, saying that their purpose in taking the photographs was to document the event, claiming that they happened to see it, decided it was important, and therefore took pictures. You can't be that biased in your interpretation, or you're a liability to your own side of the argument. You want your case to be rationally convincing to a neutral audience, and sow doubts in a hostile audience that nonetheless has some intellectual integrity, you don't want to just preach to the choir.
>actually believes in a theory allowed to be pushed on government TV >still no argument pathetic steven jones and alex jones able to talk about 9/11 (((truth))) on cspan??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h50BgNpcYR8 birth of "muh space beams", who woulda guessed its the same faggot shutting down all discussion of the topic? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG3i-Ymm3Uc
Is it just a (((coincidence))) that one group of people have benefited from every US military intervention since 9/11?
I would love for those with the technology to share it with the world to make it a better place, but I'm no level 99 alchemist and acquiring such technology is beyond my means at the moment. If you own a satellite and need help I'd be happy to drop my life and come help you with whatever wizardry it is you're working on. I posted the photos adam green showed so others could see them. No need to be rude, bless your heart
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well-versed in Urban Moving Systems, years of research. Five years ago, this post would be red hot! Congrats to the YouTuber who obtained them, which Ryan Dawson diligently could not. There were a total of ~75 photos taken by the "Dancing Israelis" confiscated by FBI, so the ones finally released under FOIA are predictably underwhelming. I'm surprised one of the D. Israelis is wearing baggy ripped jeans tbqh. If you're working undercover as a mover, I'd expect slightly more flexible apparel, esp if you're involved in 9/11. The lighter flame celebratory photo is clutch though, glad that was released. Too bad the WTC can't be clearly made out in these grainy photocopies, few normies will pay attention. We already knew, there's no video just pics. My research says that 3 of the movers were low level recon for Israeli intel, but weren't directly involved in planning the attack. Probably cleanup duty, working as sayanim, to transfer people or files post-attack, like a deep bench on a champion sports team. Waterboys of 9/11. Daniel Lewin, imo, remains the head Israeli leader in the 9/11 operation. He was an ex top ranked Sayeret Matkal captain, basically an Israeli Navy SEAL operator w few equals. He was a billionaire computer wizard as well and hardcore rabid Zionut. He was conveniently on Flight 11 seated between two alleged Saudi hijackers. I unironically think he faked his death, gassed the plane, and parachuted out, possibly with undercover Sayeret operatives, as the plane was then remote or automatedly controlled from the ground. >E-Team Just heads up to newfags, the E-Team art students are not Israelis and their full WTC residency was documented and even videotaped. It's on Vimeo, a helicopter ride they took outside the WTC. They're dorks. But obv Israeli art students were doing recon in the months before all over the East Coast. Fingers crossed that one day Dominik Suter, Daniel Lewin, and Dov Zakheim are brought to justice. Keep digging.
>Nothing you posted has anything to do with Jewish dancers why would it? this is ancient news that lead no where back then, and will lead no where now. if you dont know israel had heavy involvement in 9/11 you just have not been paying any attention at all. but to think its just the jews is pretty retarded. bush/cheney are not jews. and papa bush was a major power player. > It's a completely different question what might have been able to vaporize sky scrapers and cause strange patterns of damage to cars. what exactly am i taking away from in this thread by posting this information? these "leaks" are a nothing-burger dead end. its a fucking joke. most people should have seen the interview where they went on tv, tons of people should already know what these clowns look like, what the fuck is the point of releasing this/censoring them so heavily.
>Dancing Israelis https://youtu.be/2XHm56O2NTI https://youtu.be/LbkQddEDPs0 https://youtu.be/fOiCMMMeXE8 >9/11 Trillions: Follow the Money https://youtu.be/n3xgjxJwedA
directed energy weapons/scalar waves/some sort of play on tesla tech. who knows what exactly did it. the fact is, something exists that could achieve what was witnessed. nothing.. i repeat NOTHING explains the big picture of 9/11. this guy produced a lot of similar effects seen on 9/11 whilst mimicking tesla's experiments
>levitation well, there was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yU73pN8CHQ >hologram airplanes no one has presented this, why are you reaching so hard? >explosives caused 1400 cars blocks around to become mangled/"melted" yet not burning a single person
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The Ultimate Inside Job, Part II: 9/11 Was Predicted and the Truth is Finally Bubbling Toward the Surface - YOUR NEWS
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The Ultimate Inside Job, Part II: 9/11 Was Predicted and the Truth is Finally Bubbling Toward the Surface
Image via Cliff on Flickr, courtesy of photojournalist Bill Biggart who took this final shot of his life before breathing his last breath
As I discussed in Part I of The Ultimate Inside Job, there are a multitude of discrepancies in the explanation that September 11th was solely a terrorist attack carried out by Islamic jihadists. Ample evidence points to the World Trade Center being brought down via controlled demolition, and the truth is coming out as the American public is becoming increasingly skeptical of the Deep State’s explanation for that deadly day in American history.
Almost 17 years later, the families of 9/11 victims are demanding a grand jury investigation into what really happened that day, and government officials are coming out of their daze and waking up to the truth staring them in the face. Over half of Americans are now more curious, as 54 percent believe the government is withholding the truth from us about 9/11.
The truth is coming to the surface and 9/11 was predicted
A few weeks ago, a North Carolina city councilwoman, LaWana Mayfield, recently questioned whether or not the 9/11 attacks were terrorism at all. Almost 3,000 people died, leading to the perpetual War on Terror, the Department of Homeland Security, thousands more dead American soldiers in the Middle East (and a ceaseless supply of disgruntled terrorists), and an exploding military budget.
The Charlotte Observer reported that Mayfield posted a link on her Facebook page to an article from Awarenessact.com titled “It’s Official: European Scientific Journal Concludes 9/11 Was A Controlled Demolition.” Mayfield also wrote that she’s still waiting for someone to produce pieces of the “alleged plane that opened the doors for U.S. citizens to (lose) all privacy rights.” She would apologize five days later but still claimed she’s unsure whether planes took down the WTC.
Mayfield told a radio station in Charlotte that she thought the September 11 attacks were aimed “to not only create a way through government to spy on the American people, but also to privatize a lot of the work that is happening on the ground.” This truth is far from a conspiracy theory as 9/11 truthers continue to point to scientific evidence leading to the inside job that occurred on that fateful day.
The truth about WTC falling as a result of controlled demolition was exposed in the mainstream media on C-Span in August 2014.
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9/11 was predicted before it even happened by those who saw it coming. In June 2001, radio host Bill Cooper predicted a coming terrorist attack that would be blamed on Osama bin Laden. Cooper was killed later that year by police, in a convenient encounter stinking of entrapment, escalation, and sketchy circumstances.
“Whatever they’re going to blame on Osama bin Laden–don’t you believe it…they will soon do something outlandish to gain the support of the Sheeple,” Cooper claimed on the show. Only 11 weeks later, his predictions would become a reality.
Cooper connected the dots through information obtained from his sources, allowing him to see through the lies being fed to the American public (AKA the “Sheeple”). The mystery surrounding Cooper’s death has led many to believe that it was not an accident, but a carefully constructed plot to remove a dangerous truth-teller.
Below is Cooper’s prescient pre-9/11 radio broadcast.
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Alex Jones, now of InfoWars.com, was another radio host dismissed as a fake news conspiracy theory nut job. Up until 9/11, Jones was syndicated on 100 radio stations and was heard widely across the American radio waves. However, after September 11, Jones began to talk about how the attacks were a conspiracy by the Bush administration. This caused a number of the stations to drop his program and for him to be ostracized by the radio industry, relegated to his present status as a conspiracy theorist that few in mainstream media or political circles take seriously.
It’s funny that what the government finds uncomfortable and the public sees as deplorable is dismissed as unfounded conspiracy theory. The truth can be hard to accept when it is so atrocious.
Behold a Pale Horse should be required reading for every #Anon #qanon #911Truth pic.twitter.com/IWT6ILJatm
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Scientific evidence that cannot be ignored by the most rational among us
A report put out by Europhysics News on the 15th anniversary of 9/11 questions the official explanation of the collapse of all three WTC buildings on September 11. The stark conclusion will make even the most rational or logical person see the truth in the supposed conspiracy theorist’s version of events.
The report notes:
“It bears repeating that fires have never caused the total collapse of a steel-framed high-rise before or since 9/11. Did we witness an unprecedented event three separate times on September 11, 2001? The NIST [U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology] reports, which attempted to support that unlikely conclusion, fail to persuade a growing number of architects, engineers, and scientists. Instead, the evidence points overwhelmingly to the conclusion that all three buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition. Given the far-reaching implications, it is morally imperative that this hypothesis be the subject of a truly scientific and impartial investigation by responsible authorities.”
Further investigations include “15 Years Later: On the Physics of High-Rise Building Collapses” by Steven Jones, a former professor emeritus of civil engineering at McMaster University in Ontario, Canada, and fellow of the Canadian Society for Civil Engineering.
Another investigation is led by Ted Walter, a mechanical design engineer, and author of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth’s Beyond Misinformation “What Science Says About the Destruction of World Trade Center Buildings 1, 2 and 7.”
It’s science, not conspiracy! Not speculation! Far from fake news!
There is no other reason why the buildings came down that day other than controlled demolition. The facts are impossible to ignore any longer.
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Here are more stunning revelations the researchers pointed out.
Fires generally are not hot enough and do not last long enough to generate the excessive amount of energy needed to bring down the structural infrastructure of a building. In addition, most high rise buildings have fire sprinkler systems to prevent a fire from releasing the requisite energy to heat the steel enough to collapse a building of that size. Structural members are always protected by fireproof material designed to prevent them from reaching high enough temperatures.
“Countless other steel-framed high-rises have experienced large, long-lasting fires without suffering either partial or total collapse,” the report points out. The architects and engineers’ report goes on to state:
“… neither before nor since 9/11 have fires caused the total collapse of a steel-framed high-rise—nor has any other natural event, with the exception of the 1985 Mexico City earthquake, which toppled a 21-story office building. Otherwise, the only phenomenon capable of collapsing such buildings completely has been by way of a procedure known as controlled demolition, whereby explosives or other devices are used to bring down a structure intentionally.”
And yet, on 9/11, we saw three high rise structures fall to the ground, reduced to rubble.
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Politicians formerly in power are sounding the alarm to the discrepancies involved in the 9/11 commission. Former U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Bob Graham, a Democrat from Florida, has protested that The Senate-House Intelligence Committee Joint 9/11 Inquiry that he co-chaired had been given a deadline in 2002 that was unrealistic, and therefore prevented full completion of the work required. The ten-member group, The 9/11 Commission, issued a report in July 2004 that left many serious researchers and 9/11 victims’ family members up in arms about many unanswered questions after significant new evidence continues to come to light.
The sound evidence has led to numerous articles decrying the accepted explanation for 9/11. Most notably, a 2016 column titled, “Experts Reject Planes, Fire As Cause For 9/11 WTC Collapses.” The article, put out on the 15th anniversary of the attacks, posited: “Technical experts are mounting major challenges to official U.S. government accounts of how three World Trade Center skyscrapers collapsed in near-freefall after the 9/11 attacks 15 years ago.”
This article links to government reports on the attacks in addition to the previously mentioned Europhysics News report challenging the government’s findings. The AE911Truth link mentioned above revealed that the article has been downloaded nearly 700,000 times since August 2016 and “continues to rack up over 2,000 reads per week, keeping it at the top of Europhysics News’ ‘Most read articles.’”
Americans are searching for the truth and finally becoming skeptical of the mainstream media kowtowing to the government-led narrative.
The Saudi connection and the hijacking of Trump in the age of 9/11 truth
Congress is showing increasing willingness to uncover what really happened on 9/11. One recent victory was the release of the 28 pages that had been suppressed from the 2002 Joint House-Senate Intelligence Commission Inquiry report. The documents exposed the relationships intact before 9/11 by Saudi Arabian entities with the 19 accused airplane hijackers, 15 of whom were Saudi nationals.
Another victory over the last couple years was the congressional passage of the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act in 2016 that narrowed the definition of sovereign immunity for civil court claims resulting from international terrorism. April’s petition by the lawyers for 9/11 victims is the latest opening of civic dialog on arguably the most controversial and pivotal event in American history.
The Saudi connection cannot be ignored. Saudi Arabia is the largest sponsor of terrorism in the world, despite claims that Iran holds the title.
Furthermore, the Israeli lobby continues to pollute Washington D.C., getting our bloated military to fight its wars for them despite our military aid that will total $3.9 billion in 2019. Sadly, it seems that President Trump has been hijacked by the Saudi-Israeli cabal just as former presidents have.
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U.S. District Judge George Daniels said that there is “a reasonable basis” to implicate Saudi Arabia as one of the countries behind the 9/11 attack. But they will likely never be held accountable for their crimes. Saudi Arabia helped “two hijackers acclimate themselves to the United States, and begin preparing for the attacks… James Kreindler, a lawyer for many of the plaintiffs, said he was ‘delighted’ the case can proceed.”
Saudi Arabia needs to be viewed as the criminal country they are truly are. Trump has said the Saudis were largely responsible for 9/11 but has done nothing about it.
“Who blew up the World Trade Center? It wasn’t the Iraqis,” Trump said in February 2016. “It was Saudi — take a look at Saudi Arabia, open the documents.”
Trump also said Saudi Arabia is “the world’s biggest funder of terrorism…[they] funnel our petrodollars, our very own money, to fund the terrorists that seek to destroy our people.”
In June 2016, during the chaotic presidential campaign, Trump tweeted out: “Saudi Arabia and many other countries that gave vast amount of money to the Clinton Foundation want women as slaves and to kill gays. Hillary must return all money from such countries!”
To silence now President Trump, Saudi Arabia offered a promise to spend at least $110 billion on “American weaponry — one of the biggest arms deals in history.”
The LA Times wrote, “This weapons deal, the president said, is all about U.S. jobs. Yet how many Americans want to work to arm the country that, as Citizen Trump said, ‘blew up the World Trade Center’?”
The previously mentioned Alex Jones, who has proven himself a truth-teller but also an Israeli whore and puppet, came out and said Trump has threatened the Saudis and told them not to use their weapons to fund terrorism.
This, however, does not seem to be rooted in reality.
Today, Trump still perpetuates the claim that Iran must stop its terrorist-related activities because it is fomenting disarray throughout the Middle East, when what they are really doing is simply planting their flag in Syria and defending a regime rightly in power.
9/11 truth movements continue to fight on and are gaining traction in the age of YouTube. These truth-seekers regularly dismissed as conspiracy theorists are seeping into the mainstream as their scientifically-backed evidence is being promoted on the Internet. A growing number of people in the scientific, engineering, and architectural communities are questioning the U.S. government narrative of Middle Eastern jihadists carrying out the deadliest attack on American soil.
The “Truthers” are getting the incontrovertible evidence that 9/11 was an inside job out to the world. Hoping to reach a tipping point point one day, they are relying on video evidence that cannot be ignored. Seeing for their own eyes the perplexing fall of WTC 7 and other confounding pieces of information coming out around the events of 9/11, Americans are starting to come around to the idea of something not adding up, judging for themselves what they think really happened, since the government won’t tell us.
The truth is out there.
The seeds of doubt have been planted, but will the tree of truth blossom and those responsible be held accountable for their crimes? Free thinking is on the rise in the U.S. at last and we need to promote the evidence that proves that the government is lying to us about 9/11.
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OPERATION GOTHAM SHIELD: Nuclear drill testing in New York I'm not one for conspiracy theories. This particular reports just keeps coming to me and keeps being verified from multiple sources. Now we know from 9/11 when our government has publicly announced drills in one place something catastrophic typically happens in another. We were conducting a drill on the other side of the country, simulating a possible 9/11 type tragedy and next thing you know, the Twin Towers went down. The military exercises (war games) planned for September 11, 2001, included: Global Guardian, an annual command-level exercise organized by United States Strategic Command in cooperation with Space Command and NORAD. Purpose: test and validate nuclear command and control and execution procedures. Global Guardian was performed in conjunction with NORAD's Vigilant Guardian and Amalgam Warrior, as well as exercises sponsored by Air Combat Command (Crown Vigilance) and Space Command (Apollo Guardian). Vigilant Guardian, the semiannual NORAD exercise that had been running in conjunction with Global Guardian for several days and which postulated a bomber attack from the former Soviet Union. Vigilant Guardian is a Command Post Exercise (CPX), meaning it is conducted in offices and with computers, but without actual planes in the air. The exercise involves all NORAD command levels. Out of a range of scenarios being run on September 11, 2001, one was a "traditional" simulated hijacking. According to General Eberhart, after the first attack, "it took about 30 seconds" to make the adjustment to the real-world situation. Because of an increased number of staff, the exercise would prove to be an enabler of rapid military response for NORAD and its NEADS component, as senior officials who were manning NORAD command centers throughout the U.S. were available to make quick decision Vigilant Warrior. In his book Against All Enemies, Richard Clarke recounts that there was a NORAD exercise ongoing called Vigilant Warrior. The claim is based on a comment that Richard Myers made to Clarke via a video link on September 11, 2001. However, there is no other record of a NORAD exercise named Vigiliant Warrior. Myers was possibly referring to Vigilant Guardian (the aforementioned yearly NORAD exercise held in conjunction with Global Guardian) or Amalgam Warrior (a large-scale, live-fly, CINCNORAD sponsored exercise which is held twice annually). Vigilant Warrior was also a 1994 operation by the US army in the Persian Gulf region, in response to Iraqi troop movements towards Kuwait. Aside from military exercises, a National Reconnaissance Office drill was being conducted on September 11, 2001. In a simulated event, a small aircraft would crash into one of the towers of the agency's headquarters after experiencing a mechanical failure. The NRO is the branch of the Department of Defense in charge of spy satellites. According to its spokesman Art Haubold: "No actual plane was to be involved -- to simulate the damage from the crash, some stairwells and exits were to be closed off, forcing employees to find other ways to evacuate the building." He further explained: "It was just an incredible coincidence that this happened to involve an aircraft crashing into our facility, as soon as the real world events began, we canceled the exercise." Most of the agency's personnel were sent home after the attacks. On September 12, 2001, there was due to take place the second part of an exercise known as Operation Tripod, set up to "test the plan to distribute antibiotics to the entire city population during a bioterrorism attack". Richard Sheirer, director of the New York City mayor's Office of Emergency Management (OEM), had hired "over 1,000 Police Academy cadets and Fire Department trainees to play terrified civilians afflicted with various medical conditions, allergies, and panic attacks." Various individuals were invited to watch, including Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, the police and fire commissioners, and representatives of the FBI and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). Pier 92 was set up as a model distribution station where the "victims" of the mock attack who needed to receive antibiotics would be treated. The exercise was a follow-up to a previous training exercise in New York, called RED Ex, which took place on May 21, 2001. According to the MTI Report Saving City Lifelines: Lessons Learned in the 9-11 Terrorist Attacks, "September 11 was going to be a busy day at the OEM. Staff members arrived early to prepare for Operation Tripod." When the September 11, 2001, attacks began, Operation Tripod was immediately canceled as attentions turned to the real ongoing emergency. Because Pier 92 had been set up ready for the exercise, OEM staff were able to move there and quickly convert it into a large emergency operations center when their original command center (in WTC Building 7) was evacuated and later destroyed. Thus, within 31 hours of the attacks, OEM had a functional facility able to manage the search and rescue effort, just four miles north-northwest of the WTC site. The exercise was later rescheduled and took place on May 22, 2002. I can honestly say I haven't heard any helicopters or jets or seen any military, in the Bronx or Queens areas, but I did see planes spraying the atmosphere last week and I got sick, this week. We all know history tends to repeat itself. So, I wondered if there were simulations of a possible air attack on a government building occurring in NorthWestern, United states of America, then an actual attack occured in NorthEastern America; where could possible attack zones be today. My conclusion......Either California, Florida or Washington State. California would for various reasons. Yet Florida would be a good target because our space program NASA is down there and Florida's southern border is open for military infiltration. It's due for cataclysmic military event. And Washington...just wow. Talk about making a statement. Hitting Washington is probably the most powerful statement you can make. Washington is our Nations only holdover state. What is a hold over state you may ask. Its our only Asylum state, considered a Sovereign state. Whatever State may be the target, I just pray for all of us. These are very troubling times and that s why I hose this video link attach to this news report. Whatever higher power or inner strength you believe in; Times now to tap into it.
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Oliver Stone’s Ground Zero
IT'S hard to imagine there will ever be a better example of the folly of judging a filmmaker by his politics instead of his work than "World Trade Center," a movie opening Wednesday about a team of Port Authority police officers who become trapped in the twisted wreckage of the twin towers. The film celebrates self-sacrifice, personal heroism, the sanctity of family and essentially all that is good about America, with no unsettling pangs of troubling doubt, guilt or dark conspiracy.
So how is it that an uplifting, unabashedly sentimental drama -- our first look at the selflessness that followed in the hours after the terrorist attacks -- was made by Oliver Stone? This is, after all, Hollywood's prince of darkness, the man who not only brought us such wild-eyed fare as "JFK" and "Natural Born Killers," but who also, soon after the attacks, referred to the catastrophe as "the revolt on Sept. 11," linking it to a rebellion against six media companies who "run the world"?
"I wanted to do what I did in 'Platoon,' to use realism to honor the people who were there at ground zero that day," explains Stone, who appeared restless during our 90-minute interview, moving around his office and once asking an assistant for a new chair ("I can't think in this one"). The policemen "stay alive because of their hearts and their connection with their families. They stop taking their lives for granted, which I think is a pretty important message to get across." [...]
Still, "World Trade Center" is strikingly different from Stone's signature work -- somber rather than flamboyant, understated instead of indulgent, elegiac instead of inflammatory. In his other historical films, Stone has always focused on his character's contradictions and self-destructive zealotry, always keenly aware of his heroes' failings. "WTC" is so austere and quietly observant that if you didn't see the credits, you'd think it was directed by Clint Eastwood, not the man who made "Platoon" and "The Doors."
The one aspect of the film that feels most like Stone's earlier work is its innate sympathy for men under fire, whether they are first responders reeling from a terrorist attack or bleary-eyed Marines in the jungles of Southeast Asia. Having earned two Purple Hearts in Vietnam in the 1960s, Stone sees pretty much everything through the prism of that war, which shaped his anti-establishment politics as well as his identification with blue-collar heroes, be they police officers, firefighters or Army grunts. [...]
He also acknowledges using psychedelics, which, he says, "liberated my mind and gave me a heart, and whatever success I've had is because my movies are from the heart." For all his excesses, Stone remains one of the most gifted filmmakers of his generation, in the same pantheon as Martin Scorsese and Michael Mann. And in fairness, Stone's indulgences have always come on his time -- every producer I spoke with said he was well prepared on set, though I'm not sure I'd want him driving carpool at my kid's school.
Stone's political views are as outspoken as ever. "I've traveled the world and seen it everywhere -- we lost the trust of the world," he says. "So now we have more death from terror, not less. Not to mention a constitutional breakdown."
Startled, I asked, "Who had a constitutional breakdown?" Stone's eyes widened. "America, that's who!" he says. "You know, there's a great line from 'Alexander': 'Conquer your fear and you will conquer death.' That's what the heroes of our film and the rescuers did on 9/11. But since then, we haven't fought smartly. We've fought stupidly. We've overreached."
Stone rattles off a list of countries that have successfully fought terrorism in recent history. "We had something to learn from them, but we ignored them. We didn't have to go to war in Iraq when the enemy was really 4,000 Al Qaeda fighters in Afghanistan. If we had successfully hunted down Bin Laden, we could've finished him off and most people would've still been with us."
He's on a roll now. "It was hard for us Vietnam vets to see Iraq creep up on us, just the way Vietnam did. I really believe if Bush or Cheney had fought in a war they wouldn't have put us through all the pain and suffering. I have three kids, including a 21-year-old son. Are they going to be Stealth jet pilots, like those guys in 'Why We Fight,' smiling after they've dropped the first bombs in Iraq?"
Stone doesn't buy the argument that filmmakers should keep their politics to themselves. "I served my time in Vietnam. I pay my taxes. So why am I being muffled and censored as a celebrity? Why can't I speak out as a human being?"
-Patrick Goldstein, “Oliver Stone’s ground zero,” Los Angeles Times, August 8 2006 [x]
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