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[under-the-ladder]

TBSE 2023

Hey, so I wanted to gather all the possible inconsistencies and things that look sketchy about this year's TBSE. Mainly for my own future reference and if someone else finds this useful I'll be forever happy <;3 totally not because I'm sick to death of waiting for tvp to finally stop ignoring us & pretending everything is ok

It's not intended to be an unbiased compilation because as a human being I'm biased (IBDP TOK ✌️) and I do hold an opinion that something was inherently wrong with this show. Proceed at your own risk.

The voting system changed 4 days before the final. In the previous system televotes would be calculated proportionally, in the eventual system they were converted to usual ESC scores (12, 10, 8, etc.) and assigned according to ranking. That allowed Jann (who allegedly got 18k votes) to get 12 points and Blanka (who allegedly got 6k votes) to get 10 points. The ratio is obviously different in those cases.

80% of participants were previously somehow affiliated with tvp. Five of them performed at a tvp-organized New Year's Eve concert, another one won tvp-organized The Voice of Poland, the rest were performing in their other shows on various occasions. The only "outsiders" were Ahlena and Jann.

The juries are also affiliated with tvp. All of them work for/had contact with government media in some way or another. No independent experts. Also, Edyta Górniak (a jury member)'s son was waiting in the greenroom with Blanka. When asked, they claimed Blanka joined him because there was no more free space anywhere else. (Really, didn't they have proper seats for the participants...? 😑).

One of the juries, Agustin Egurrola was Blanka's choreographer and his dancers were performing with her.

Similar lack of transparency occurred with TBSE 2022, but the public's favorite won so there was no national-scale drama. However, a small group of journalists asked for the reveal of votes afterwards. Surprise surprise, no response from tvp.

The time that the article with the results was published was 15:33, while the show was starting at 17:30. Tvp claimed it was a draft. Ok, this is the most believable of their excuses so far, not that I like it.

The event's official statute was breached. The televote ranking was published a day too late, only after the pressure from the public.

Edyta Górniak's vague comments after the show - she was basically contradicting herself and the chronology of the show when talking about the voting procedures, at some point even suggesting she received the final points from the production via an earphone - a moment particularly vulnerable to manipulation.

"Irregular voting patterns" were detected in Polish jury voting already at ESC 2022 grand final. They were replaced with aggregated votes, of course tvp denied everything.

Tvp is generally known in Poland as a government-controlled hate-spitting propaganda machine. The station president has been nominated to the post by the governing party and uses the platform to shit on women, LGBT community and the EU.

And the cherry on top: the lack of response from the broadcaster after joint statements and an official letter from all major Polish Eurovision media.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk 🙃