#if anything it fixes the plot hole of how the Jedi knew about the rule of two if the Sith were thought to be extinct
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Ik some people see a plot hole in all the Jedi accepting Vernestra’s coverup since Sol was at the Temple teaching younglings when Indara was killed, but honestly, I don’t get it. If anything I see it as a reflection of how respected and influential Vernestra is. Idk much about her as I haven’t read the comics, but they way the other Jedi treat her have me the impression that she’s one of the most respected Jedi short of the High Council. It seems to me that even if a Jedi was able to get solid proof of Sol’s innocence (which would probably be very difficult as Vernestra would have sealed away the evidence and official records and confronted anyone who tried to reopen the case) they would have to be both extremely courageous to openly challenge Vernestra and have incredible conviction to knowingly cast the Order in a bad light especially since their relationship with the Senate is becoming strained.
That being said, Vernestra still knows there’s a threat to the Jedi (her former Padawan) and there’s a major loose end (Mae) which she is going to need to take care of without drawing suspicion. Hence she gets Yoda involved since she knows she’s not powerful enough to do it alone, which makes it even more unlikely that someone would challenge her cover story. But it also presents a huge risk since if Yoda doubts her, he 100% could and would reopen the case and bring her reputation crashing down. I think that this would have been the plot of season 2: can Vernestra maintain the coverup while also taking care of Qimir, Osha and Mae with Yoda carefully watching her every move?
#the acolyte#star wars#star wars the acolyte#renew the acolyte#vernestra rwoh#master vernestra#mae aniseya#osha aniseya#yoda#master yoda#master sol#the stranger#qimir#the jedi#this isn’t a plot hole#it’s the plot#if anything it fixes the plot hole of how the Jedi knew about the rule of two if the Sith were thought to be extinct#like Vernestra Yoda and Ki-Adi Mundi think that Osha and the stranger are two Sith/Sith cultists and find out about the rule of two#and then they kill the stranger and possibly Osha and declare the matter over and decide to keep it a secret to avoid causing a panic#there was so much potential#and Disney decided to waste it
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My TLJ Review Part 2 or Lukey Thoughts
Alright, now that I’m over my Ahch-To Luke-like hiatus, it’s time to talk about Ahch-To Luke.
He’s exactly how I imagined he’d be:
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A grumpy Pooh-bear.
Seemingly, unlike a lot of fans, I wasn’t disappointed by Luke’s role, portrayal, or amount of action.
‘Cause I had emotionally prepared myself for Luke to pretty much do nothing in The Last Jedi…(therefore him doing ANYTHING was exciting for me).
Why, you ask?
There are many parts to that answer. And I’ll try to organize this as nicely as possible, I did buy a new filing cabinet and all. My Rey and Kylo Pop Figures live there quite nicely.
A)I knew the time for the story to be solely about/focus on Luke Skywalker had passed. I’ll be honest, way back in the day (now), as a kid, I was disappointed that George Lucas decided to make prequels instead of sequels starring Mark, Carrie, and Harrison (I wanted more of what I knew and loved). As a creator, I respect what George wanted to do. However, fact remains, a bunch of time passed, and from a story sense all of our original main characters leveled up to the mentor archetype stage.
1) I, by no means, see or read every SW interview, but on many occasions in print, tv, Youtube, Mark mentioned statements along the lines of “passing the baton,” and “it’s their story now [new kids]” (paraphrasing). He wasn’t just telling the truth from a certain point of view. He meant the action wasn’t going to follow him. I love J.J., but I feel like some fans, based on the TFA switch-a-roo marketing, felt like they were finally going to get a swoll-gym-Luke Skywalker. Or Bruce Lee.
2) Mark also made several comments about being on the “if it tastes good don’t eat it diet,” not getting to eat his favorite crackers while watching movies, and being allowed to take his time on the stairs/hills of Skellig Michael. He’s human, he’s a prolific voice actor, not an action star (I type this while I’m eating cookies, don’t tell Dr. Captain McHusband, M.D. or he’ll lock me in the gym cave. “Kirby Fluff is my natural state” doesn’t work on him). Anyhow, this was a clue to me that Mark wasn’t going to be too keen on doing a whole lot of stunts. I mean, in comparison, Harrison had it easy in TFA. All he had to do is sit in the pilot seat of the Falcon and raise a blaster to make people happy. Lightsaber battles are hard (Dr. Captain McHusband, M.D allowed our battles to count as daily cardio until I broke his lightsaber. Oops, the dark side isn’t stronger, at least not in plastic.)
B) I knew there was no good reason for Luke to be stuck on Ahch-To. I had already reasoned either:
1) After all these years, Luke’s plans still weren’t going so well, AND like a dummy he accidentally got himself stuck on Ahch-To. Which fans would have complained about (he has the Force!)…I can hear the Luke-is-still-a-goofy-farmboy cries from the Alternative Universe all the way in this dimension.
2) He was hiding like a coward cause he didn’t want Snoke to “get” him. Prior to seeing TLJ, I thought this was most likely the case. For whatever reason, I assumed, perhaps, Luke didn’t want to be turned into a “tool” like his nephew. Maybe I thought Snoke was more powerful and Luke knew it. Something along the lines of he thought Snoke would tempt him Christ-in-the-wilderness style. But, the hole in the argument, I mean, what could someone give Luke that might have been better than ruling the galaxy with his birth dad?
3) But, they surprised me a little by going grizzled, i-don’t-care-anymore, shut off from the Force Luke. However, given the circumstances with Kylo, the death of his other students, from his perspective letting down Yoda as a teacher, it was the most realistic approach in IMO. Not sure if there are therapists in the SW universe. (Or how much hugging Ewoks would really help.) What else would a failed, depressed character do to deal?
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C) I knew he needed to change as a character. Else, there wouldn’t have been an interesting character arch. For me, it would have been hard to suspend my belief if he was the same person from, guessing, thirty something years ago. (Look how much Obi-wan changed!) I always loved Luke, but I know a lot of people prefer other characters in SW (Han, Vader, Lando) because they saw Luke as a young, naïve, goody-goody. He blew up the Death Star, faced his father “The Chosen One” most-powerful-Jedi, and the Emperor…what was left to change and challenge him? I think his own pride in having done all that was a good place to start. Even from the beginning he was “I’m Luke Skywalker” and later in ROTJ, “I am a Jedi.”
Which seemingly showed a lot of pride as a trait (IMO Han didn’t run around saying “I am a smuggler!” with the same gusto). So, I do think Luke having to face himself, and the fact that Luke Skywalker failed, was the last, best villain he could have.
And in the end, he wins. He helps, because that’s what Luke Skywalker does.
Other Lukey movie thoughts:
I’m sure this lightsaber toss was a little disappointing for Luke…I know the last time he tossed the lightsaber there was a scramble of eligible students vying to get it. But you know, superior Skywalker blood skills and all, Ben caught it.
AND I know if Rey doesn’t fix and then toss the lightsaber at the end of Episode 9, im-gonna-be-disappointed, cause tossing the lightsaber is a Jedi tradition when they don’t need it anymore, ya know?
Anyhow, back on topic, I actually laughed (I think I was the only one) when Luke threw the lightsaber away.
Interestingly, I’ve seen some heartache over this, as some fans believe that Luke wouldn’t disrespect his father that way. I think that gets into interesting territory over if one is more of a OT or PT fan…I know it was Luke’s father’s, but I always saw it more as Luke’s.
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And I dunno if Luke could be described as sentimental over objects…that’s seemingly Kylo’s trait.
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And just like lightsabers, first Luke had blue milk, now he has green. I’m actually kinda shocked other fans aren’t more upset that Luke is robbing some poor little sea calf of his dinner.
Or how untidy he’s become. Aunt Beru taught him to keep his face clean, even on dirty ole Dagobah.
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Overall, I was happy with his reunion with Chewie, the Falcon, R2, the holo-clip of Leia from ANH, and his lessons to Rey. Although I am very much looking forward to the deleted scene of the third lesson and deciding if its deletion was a good or bad thing.
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I’m pretty sure my jaw dropped when Yoda showed up to have a little chat with Luke, troll him and give him some advice at the same time. And it’s good advice. The sort you could play on repeat when you’re having a bad day (do I hear a new bad lipsync yet???)
Finally, I guess the only other elephant in the room, is Luke choosing to stay on Ahch-To instead of leaving with Rey.
I admit, in theaters the first time, I was a little, “Ah, Luke, come on, help already, don’t be that way grumpy Pooh bear” about it. But not devastated, cause I reasoned this was a plot device, so someone could be left to save the other heroes later on.
Also, if Luke had left with Rey, we would have, IMO, gotten into repeat ANH and TFA plotlines, aka mentor character runs around base-like setting with newbies. (Or even, possibly TPM with mentor character and apprentice chasing baddie into a corner like area, only to have mentor die.) It might have been cool, but I’ve yet to see a description of this scenario that I like better than what actually happened in TLJ or one that doesn’t rob Rey of scenes or power as a character.
At the end of day, I like the miraculousness of Luke’s return on Crait. ‘Cause for me, as a spiritual person, it means, if you boil down Luke Skywalker as a character, he’s still a Christ-like figure. I could probably write you a whole thesis on the comparisons of Luke appearing to everyone on Crait being similar to Christ appearing to his followers after the crucifixion (someone out there probably will)(Im-gonna-wait to write the thesis on Kylo being like Paul, I guess). But, yeah, it defied my expectations of what Luke would and could do. Especially if he knew doing so would possibly kill him. Definition of a true hero.
His “fight” (arguably final lesson) with Kylo, even though they never really lock blades, takes my breath away. I didn’t think SW could top the snow fight in TFA, but now I’m tied with the Praetorian Guards for *fangirls* “the good parts” (aka the scenes I will lazily watch over and over on Youtube ‘cause Bluray startup is just too many seconds to wait).
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Yup, I did tear up a bit when Luke fades away. But, honestly, I couldn’t have imagined a better, more peaceful way for Luke to go. In ANH when he first looks into the double sunset, I always had this feeling that he was searching for something more. To end his character’s journey with the same double sunset, really felt like that search was over. It was perfect.
But, I got a feeling seeing Force Ghost Luke is going to be pretty cool *wink wink*.
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Vader Strikes Back - Part the Fourth
Not beta read/really rough/not really proof read/plot holes and OUT of order. Also spoilers for the original first story in AO3 Back From the Future: Episode VI The Clone Wars. Check the tag #vader strikes back on my page for the other parts to this mess/fic outline. Again I value feedback and ideas if you have any.
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Fives wanted to move. His back itched. The view of the medical quarters ceiling grew boring after about 20 minutes when he was finally allowed to lie face up after days on his belly. Quick was weaning him off the good drugs but he couldn’t just sleep the day away. At this angle he couldn’t do anything. He wanted to get out of bed and do something.
But he was lucky that his spine was still intact, he was lucky to be alive.
(A year ago, perhaps two, an injury like this would have meant decommissioning. Now resources were used to keep him alive, heal him. He was very lucky. He knew that.)
Others hadn’t been so lucky.
Fives closed his eyes and clenched his fists. The casualties reports of clones fighting clones was sickening, there were Jedi dead in the field at the hands of their own troopers. And to top it all off, his teacher was dead. So many dead and he was stuck in this prone position for at least another week before he’d be allowed to start physical therapy. And even when he was back on his feet, who would teach him and his brothers now?
Yes, the Sith Master had been defeated. Yes, the damn chip was out of his head. Yes, he had the Force and medical treatment and the war was over and he should be grateful. He should be happy that he was alive but all he was was frustrated and pissed off and worried.
If only he could get up and do something productive! If only he could be of some use!
“What do you think you’re doing?” Quick barked.
Fives turned his head to see which patient had earned his ire this time. (He didn’t dare raise his head under threat of being strapped down for the duration of his convalescence.) He needn’t have actually looked. He could guess who it was.
“I’m better, I don’t need to be here!” Hardcase argued even as he hopped back over to his bed, thwarted in his most recent escape attempt.
Quick shoved him down and checked the bacta patch over his leg. “You nearly bled to death, you moron. We’ve had to ration the bacta with all the injuries. It isn’t healed yet. You put pressure on it now the wound could reopen and you could die!”
“Aw, c’mon. It wasn’t as bad as all that,” he protested trying to bat the medic’s hands away.
“This is the third time today. And you didn’t even bother to steal a hoverchair this time! Do I need to strap you down? Because I will!”
“Look, Quick, I’ve got stuff to do I can’t do in here,” Hardcase wheedled. “It’s been weeks.”
“And just what can’t wait until you’re not at risk of losing your leg or your life, trooper?” The medic demanded, hands on his hips.
“Have you been watching the holonet? Have you heard what they’re saying about Luke and Vader? We need to be doing something to help!”
“What?! What’ve they been saying?” Fives interrupted, raising his voice to be heard. “Hardcase?” he asked worriedly.
“No holonet in here; my patients must all rest,” Quick insisted firmly.
“They’re saying that Vader’s trying to take over the galaxy or something, that Palpatine was his master. They’re saying Luke was helping,” Hardcase said hotly. “It’s total kriffing banthashit and someone needs to set the record straight. They were heroes! We were all heroes!”
“Who’s saying it?” Fives asked urgently, forgetting himself for a moment and trying to sit up only for all the monitors around him to start beeping warningly. “Why would they–?” he began, in turns furious and horrified.
“Lay down, trooper!” Quick yelled rushing over to his bed.
“There’s some new report out,” Mixer said from the other side of the ward. “Uni told me about it when he stopped by. They say the Order’s going to hunt down Vader for going after Palpatine and his allies. They say that Luke wasn’t even a Jedi Knight.”
“Banthashit,” Hardcase snarls. “What’d I tell you, total kriffing banthashit! We need to do something. Fives, Fives we need to–!”
“And what exactly are you going to do about it, may I ask?” Quick asked. “Don’t you think Captain Rex already knows?”
“Luke was our teacher. He was our Commander,” Fives said. “He and Vader came and killed Krell. They got the chips out of our heads and healed us. They gave us all our freedom and ended the war. Hardcase is right. We’re troopers; even laid up there’s got to be something we can do to help.”
Mixer and the others who were awake voiced their loud agreement to Five’s words, some sitting up, others trying to stand. Quick turned around frantically, not sure where to go first to stop the full scale uprising of his patients.
“We could help with reports, or gather intel, or hells even go on the holonet and let everyone know the truth,” Fives continued, rallying the others, lifting his head slightly. “Where’s Echo, is he still on duty? Where’s Hack Squad? We need a holoscreen in here. We need to know what’s going on. We need to comm the 104th and the 212th. Where’s Vader? What–”
“All right! All right! I’ll get a holoscreen in here if and only if you all get back into your beds this second troopers, do you understand me?” Quick yelled, reaching the end of his rope. “Lie back down!”
Grumbling the men obeyed.
“Get a big one, we all need to be able to see and hear,” Hardcase insisted as he relaxed back down.
“Don’t push your luck,” Quick retorted rushing over to check the clone’s blood pressure and tsking in dismay at what he saw. “If you go to sleep now, I’ll see what I can do,” he added a bit softer.
“And let Chatterbox and Flare and the others to come by. We need to talk about what we’re going to do,” Fives called out.
“Sleep!”
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Obi-Wan thought he had set the bottle down on the edge of the table, but it turns out he’d missed by quite a margin. He stared at the shattered glass and alcohol on the floor. It was such a waste of good liquor, he mourned. Luckily, the house had a fully stocked bar.
Grabbing his glass, Obi-Wan went to get another bottle, knocking over a chair and a decorative plant along the way.
“What is going on? Obi-Wan, are you hurt?” Padme entered the room in a rush. “I heard a noise and–“ She stopped in her tracks.
The Jedi Master turned slowly, bottle and glass now in hand. “Senator,” he said in greeting and then turned his attention to getting more drink into his glass.
“What are you doing?” she asked.
“What does it look like I’m doing?”
“It looks like your getting drunk,” she answered, crossing her arms over her chest.
“No, Senator. I am getting black out drunk. I am getting so drunk I stop thinking for a few hours. So I stop seeing it, him, every time I blink.”
Her face grew wary. “You watched the vid.”
“I watched the vid,” he confirmed toasting her and then knocking back the entire glass. “What an excellent suggestion you had. I didn’t realize what a total and abject failure I was until I watched the vid. Thank you for that.” He wiped his mouth with his hand, nearly dropping the bottle. “I mean, there’s my Padawan all grown up in a life support suit slaying the Sith Master even after falling to the Dark side. And there’s baby Luke, all grown up and now quite dead after enduring the agony of Force lightning at the hands of the same Sith Master. The Sith Master incidentally who’s been ruling the Republic and controlling the Separatist, who was right under our nose, who nearly exterminated the entire Order using our own troops.”
“Obi-Wan …”
“I’m not sure how much worse I can screw up, Sennan– Padme. As a Jedi, as a General, as a teacher, as a friend. I let that monster near my Padawan, let him do gods know what to him since he was a boy, only a boy. I am quite sure,” he continued staggering and nearly tripping on the fallen chair as he came closer to her. “No one has failed as greatly as I have in the history of the Order.” He waved his hand to cut her off when she opened her mouth to interrupt. “No, no really. Jedi have lost students before, yes. My own Master lost a student. Xanatos. Always trying to kill me. But to kriff up so badly that your Fallen Sith Lord student comes back in time to fix things, now that’s a new low, deserving of a place of honor in the Archives.”
Padme grabbed hold of the bottle and the glass and yanked them out of Obi-Wan’s hands. “Enough of this. I know you’re hurt and shocked, but–“
“I was going to talk to Anakin. I was going to talk to him but he’s in the nursery, sleeping on the floor. He did that sometimes in the beginning. He wasn’t used to the sleep couch. He was cold, so he’d make a nest in a corner of his room. I used to tell him off for hoarding blankets. I was such a bad Master.” He stepped backward, reaching for the couch and finding it with one hand, flopped down on the cushions. “ I don’t want to lie to him anymore. I don’t want to tell him that the war is good, that the Order knows what its doing, that he’s doing good, and he needs to keep fighting and fighting and fighting. He’s very good a fighting and killing,” he said mournfully.
“Yes,” Padme agreed softly setting down the bottle and the glass. “Anakin’s very good at killing. All of the Jedi are.”
“You sound like Satine,” he says crossly. “Warriors can’t be peacekeepers. Soliders can only do one thing. If your only tool is a weapon, everyone looks like a target,” he parrots in a Mandalore accent.
“I can’t say I disagree. That was probably the plan all along. Sheev Palpatine was famous for such tactics when he was a Senator.”
“And he was in front of us the whole time. We saved his life a dozen times. He talked of democracy and we happily helped build his Sith Empire for him,” Obi-Wan spat. “He played the kindly old man while he dripped poison into my Padawan’s ear. I let him– I let him–“ He wiped one shaking hand over his face and breathed, trying to release his anger. “And he won. He won. Vader is proof of that. Force knows what they did … After. Killed everyone, I imagine.” He touched his throat, remembering the durasteel grip, the Forcestorm of hate and betrayal.
“Now that you know, what will you do?” Padme asked.
“Do?”
“Do you plan to tell the Jedi Order? Do you plan to lock Anakin up or kill him preemptively?”
“What? No! No, of course not! Anakin is not Vader!” he yelled defensively. “How can you say that?”
“Anakin was terrified to tell you of our marriage, of the babies. He believed you to be more loyal to the Order and the Council than him.” Obi-Wan sputtered at that but some part of him whispered that Anakin had every right to think that about him. “The war and constant fighting has taken a toll. He is suffering and in pain. Your Order teaches that those types of feelings aren’t allowed, that they lead to the Dark side, to somehow becoming evil like the flick of a switch. Knowing that in some other time and place he became Vader … I have a right to know what you plan to do to my husband.”
“Nothing! I plan to do nothing!” Obi-Wan tried to stand. “He’s my brother. I love him! I would never– I could never kill him! Never!”
Dark eyes watch him for a long moment.
“I promised him. I promised Anakin I would stay with him and help make things right. I meant it. Forget about the the Council and the war. I said I wanted to help and I will, Padme. Not because of the Code or the Order or-or some promise to my dying Master, but because I care for him and I don’t want to see him hurting, not anymore, not if I can help it. I’m going to help. I swear it.”
“And Vader?” Padme asked softly. “Will you help him too?”
“Vader?” Obi-Wan drew back in shock.
“He’s lost everyone and everything. His son … my son is dead. He will need our help.”
“I … he’s a Sith,” Obi-Wan tried to explain.
“And what, Sith can’t be redeemed? Sith can’t make new and better choices? Sith can’t save the galaxy and defeat evil? I don’t believe that,” she said sharply turning and looking away from him. “I don’t care what his name is now, he was once Anakin Skywalker. I can tell by what he’s done. There is good in him.”
“Padme, once a Jedi starts down the Dark path, their destiny is fixed and dominated by death and suffering.”
“He saved us all. He and Luke. And now, he’s alone.”
Obi-Wan swallowed hard. It went against everything he had been taught and believed his whole life. But then again, what he believed and was taught said that time travel was impossible and that Sith were incapable of good. Vader had already disproven both points.
And he was alone. Anakin never made good choices when he was left all alone.
It made him dizzy just thinking about it. But then again, it may be the alcohol.
“I will do what I can,” he said finally.
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The Clone Wars Duchess of Mandalore
Season 2 Episode 14
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You know I want to believe this is going to be an episode focusing on Duchess’s actual character . . . . But the track record of writing female characters (Never mind blam ing trauma for their personality )
Doesn’t leave much Good Faith Or trust . . (especially how often their Characterization gets to Ret-conned. to fit the episode,)
(Padme turned into a nag, Ahsoka In unchildlike abomination that goes with a plot needs her to)
Duchess;
From Relat iv-ely Reas On Able Leader . . . Turned exquisite and Ex- - cess -ive (Pe tty)
Con trast- With Semi- Constant Smart “laziness” avoidant Obi-wan And “Do It Sky wal -ker-
I don’t expect this to stick
(Al-ways the female characters,”
Any. Way
And war, truth is the first casualty,
[It’s actually accountability but good try]
Deluding them selves of the goodness usually comes after the bad action
Any way.
The terribly designed ship
(I’m sorry but that thing doesn’t even look even slightly aerodynamic)
(The shark ship at least had that)
?
[it was one apparent smoke bomb and she wasn’t allowed to do anything to try and fix it,]
But sure... let’s go with that . Allies
[Never got a feel for that and one dude was always snarking at her,] No shit
everyone can see that
And it was one dude
[They haven’t heard of this yet]
[This plot- isn’t very good]
Right - ok now they’re im-portant-
Sit and and wait
As Duchess makes her case that this is just one splinter group that she can handle
Some thing you wouldn’t think would need a trial
[Only becoming a problem when it affects other people]
[suffering from the Luminara problem, where if she doesn’t meet up to high unreasonable standards. In an unreasonable amount of time (Little) Instantly lambasted by her colleagues. With the nar-rative showing no signs of painting this is wrong Or the fact of the male characters can feck around screw everything up, And that isn’t considered serious
[Narrative’s a Cheater. .)
How long
These are actual good evil minions
(No this could actually be good with them becoming something like the clone troopers to the, Darkside
Making up for a lack of human faces in the ranks up to this point,
Establishing that while they may be the instigator of tox, Actions are about ~now~ Less abhorrent than the Empire’s / Coun- cil-
‘the Plot,’
Completely irrelevant
(And stupid)
Relying on everyone being a complete un- accountable- Idiot.
Great plan you got there Dooku,
How’s Duchess’s explaining that’s-not-at-all-what-happened-and-we-don’t need a foot hold and all security, going?
Like you think he’d be more mad Considering what seems like the only plot, Intercepting the vehicle in transit, Failed horribly,
Unless, the guys didn’t tell him - And he still thinks they have Duchess -which would make sense...because of course they sent troops for the lost foreign leader
(Would’ve been a good episode for both of them)
(Not sure that would cause a riot though-)
(-Which would make sense if Obi-Wan was the last one they saw around here- Thinking, that a Jedi captured their leader,
]
But I’m getting ahead of myself let’s focus on the actual plot. .
Whoa rows
To Coursant
I thought you just said to . . .sit still and leave.
What? ...
What
Oh so we’re focusing on another cliché plot instead of the actual characters
(*Note; Cliché As in a badly established already done plot . . . There’s nothing wrong with doing repeat plot so long as you do them well
What you bring into it is the fun part (Ideally)
Aight?
How?
They’re just there
Also yeah you already know that there there you already know what they’re doing you still haven’t done anything about it
So?
[I was about to say where is the courier guy but he’s dead]
R.I.P shortly lived villain Killed off for a shitty written romance-
-He deserved better
Ok
Whatever
Why
[i’ve seen that image multiple times but I never realized the city was in the ball
[also how is this the palace where several important officials meet And the nice forest is supposed to be this mining hell hole
The environments- They’re-
So yeah we know it’s there, but like last time we’re not going to do anything about it
[like I said Saltine did get back at some point and everyone’s logic was just ok let’s go complain to the council for no reason,]
[I dislike this logic)
Why?
Just...? Why
Also yeah who’s in charge while she’s away?
I mean we’ve already got like a lot of senators’ sus
What?
Things �� Happen Ing
Also yeah palace right back to the way it was,
I guess it was a smoke bomb. .
Right?
You left the Boomer in control?
Also, so yeah I’m surprised he didn’t run out to be a mastermind either
Like, yeah That can happen
But given the “legacy and proud of everything thing,”
You’d think he’d be the main target
[Makes a lot more sense than Random Sen ator #4
And he was the only one in that hallway with Obi-Wan-
-
During their argu- ment-
Prime Minister- It Makes Sense -
You found the deathwatch armies - isn’t hard - It was like five guys last time
Now just like them, you have allowed, the situation to get worse
Good job smart guys.
Battle
Really because they seem like the same group of nerds
?
What?
??...
?
Deathwatch will never be strong enough
Yeah, no shit
Guess you shouldn’t do anything stupid
[how long until something stupid happens?]
Beyond the normal . . .
Here
Seriously how does this plan make any sense?
Jedi- come here - everyone- Loses their shit
How? - like I know it be unpleasant to have some guys stomp into Your House
But there’s literally no need for that..
Considering the situation isn’t out of control
And Satine should be fully capable of handling the situation
- And telling the Senate to feck off
- And don’t tell me he’s doing this because she’s passive because he’s been everything but passive in defending her passive beliefs,
[Something not really elaborated on]
Stop
NOT BE AN IDIOT!
Also,
[I really don’t like this plot it makes no sense,”. ]
Whelp-
Fuck-
That Got Dark-
[but possibly make sense if this is how she sees members of the republic, As a dark brooding force that will hurt everyone if she’s not careful,
Significant deadly threat
How?
They- smoke bombed one building
[That’s juvenile]
[The situation is not out of control]
In the narrative’s attempt to over blow this isn’t done ,correctly
You need to have self aware ness.
Bumper cars
Good
[Also you had to come to the Senate to say that]
(This could’ve been an email)
Or a photo op/ State -ment-
?
Duchess why did you come here you knew they were going to pull this shit
Like this helped nothing
And the narrative,
What was a good situation that was supposed to come out of this?
You stand before a council of people who decided to fight, saying I don’t fight
[ and these are toxic people mind you]
There was no way this is going to end up good;
And I don’t.. know what the narrative?
Padme?
Also what is with the weird bumper car rules?
Because it seems like anyone can come up at any time and ask any question?
[Like, how is that not chaos?]
Wo rking under toxic assumed authority. .
“People-
‘ I call to the stand Obi-Wan (Kenobi) and Anakin Of the Jedi order, to provide testament,”
That’s all that had to be said..
On top of;
“My government will submit to peace keepers actual peace keepers - Un-armed- For Eval -uation,’
That would make sense
And work off Satine’s Ad- vers Ion- To Obi-Wan, and the Jedi Council,
True
Dick,
-Jedi
Yeah, she didn’t reject, she allowed the Jedi to do a full investigation,
Also as brutal as the scene is, it is a good show of you reap what you sow and enablers turning on a enablers
Even though Satine should’ve known better than to argue peace with a war council...
Obi-won says nothing . . .
Fuck You (Good)
Bad Ass
Lots of politicians speaking,
Wait-
Dick-
Appro priate-
Ser-iously touching someone without their consent?
Dick entitled move.
Spec. Ifically.
After he stood by and watched that happened - Senate - Yeah cause you were there and you did nothing
Better;
Saltine calls Obi-Wan as a witness (Both Obi-Wan and the others. (Anakin) standing watch over her home planet
They failed to respond due to being in the middle of some thing
Or just distracted
This makes looks Satine Look extremely bad, That Jedi are not Re-sponding On her home planet
The vote gets passed
Satine is more than distressed
When Obi-Wan Coms her In
They argue, Satine Sni,pping. A. Bro-ken Promise
“You said you’d be there for me (This Time)]
“You’re never there when I need you,”
“You’re never there when it matters most,”
With that, the conversation ends
Satine possibly getting ready to defend herself against the republic
Coming to invade her home
Im-bittered Sweet
Didn’t help at all but okay,
We’re friends
Good
[To be fair the romance was so forced, that friendship is honestly best,]
Ah, Lady, You just got a friendship last block,
No need to act surprised.
Nothing More
Good because there was no chemistry between you up to this point,
State of mind
....
What?
What state of mind?
...
She’s fine!
Yeah she over reacted to the dude
But - got everything together when it mattered-
THANK YOU!
That was an asinine statement
Hysterical
No they wouldn’t be
That isn’t a compliment.
That’s Invalidation.
Dick Obi-Wan
Point!
So much
point in this!
I am so
pleased..
(Though
regular,”
I only -
Gas-
lighting
“I’m-
Yes!
Mhm
This is some
Bomb ass tea
De-licious
(I just realized my phrasing of words I’m so-)
It’s good is the point
(Doesn’t it make up what happened in the previous episodes,
But, Makes it easier to forget . . .
Accoun- tability - Is the word you’re looking for (The character, not the writer,”) They’re doing good . ... You live with a child groomer (Are One)
Does make sense. Obi-won closest to the problem (Groomed specifically in benefit of it) Still sad that they just gave up
Even if he does have a point That Two generations have essentially grown up Anakin and their time as the present is over
Bit too late to have a regrets
(Only when it screws you over..
Not the future generations)
And...
My sympathy is officially gone (Not the storytelling’s fault, I think they work -ed this conversation pretty well - Just the facts to narcs arguing - Still made me think about what exactly what was wrong - That’s good (narc)Con versation,
Any way,
I love this song
Obi-Wan gets roasted for all his bad behavior 2.0...
It’s nice
Crusade
This Convo was good
(It made me feel better about all the times the writers used cheating tactics)
*Not for giv-ed
just- better
?
[That expression- was concerning]
There
Aight
That- Was-
Chilling
[You just spent the whole time getting yelled out for his deeds, just continued on, emotion less]
The “respectable” kind (Approp-riate for an adult)
Aight
[Oh- no are they going to have the Obi-won rescue her and that proves that all her opinions are wrong?
Not actually; she made some really good points
But in the narrative treating?
(I don’t want to see that)
Okay, whelp,
Coursant has the worst security ever,
How?
Damn Frick
Is a bad day for her,
Filed
Some random dude hijacked your car
Who are you going to sue?
Bitch
Queenie, dude’s obviously an asshole
Leave
Also if there was no proof then why aren’t you charging her for vandalism terrorism, etc?
(See his logic is bullshit,)
also this is a good example of obstructive bureaucrat . . .
Or avoidant
Because how do three people nearly dying not constitute as proof?
[Like if she died.]
Also, what’s the plan if she did?
Like; Oh yeah deathwatch is such a threat that they killed a senator
Those dudes don’t care
They only pissed at her because she’s a pacifist coming into a Offensive summit
Accident
[she accidentally drove her car. [Yelling at the villain]
Not what she said
This dude could give Obi-Wan a run for his gas lighting,
Whelp
Fuck Off
Oh yeah the council of war mongers will really respect the pa- cifist
No bias here
None whatsoever
Satine
Hey at least this time he had the common decency not to grab her-
dick
?
Oh yeah defender of the gaslight-ing committee she’ll definitely help
Worry You
Don’t give into the gaslight-
Also guilt tripping
“ i’m afraid on that account,”
No,
Dick
Valid re-ac- tions
Shit-
“Victim blaming” (Toxic blaming)
Pretty sure they’re all enablers at this point
Tox-
Ma’am
Leave the ball of tox known as Obi-Wan
Man has turned from a garbage fire to a gas fire,
Coursant
Yeah, you should leave,
Also, That Moment,
You are one of them.
You’re not backing down
👉 This Not,
Con
Don’t listen to Obi-Wan He sucks
Also none of the guards are going to zap him for touching their queen unannounced? - - - Friends
You’re not her friends
You’ve been nothing but a dick
Gas lighting
Nope
Tox.
[like listen to that ag-gressive tone, How he’s holding her
Tox
[Still good on the animators who did that scene, Very good work,]
Occ-upation
Shit
Happen
Oh Shit-
Obi-won distracted her?
Aight
Meeting
What
How-
Hm,
Wait- Huh
[this is some kangaroo Court logic
It’s Good.]
Before
“Relying on the Republic is a mistake,”
Yesssss
More Acc- Toxic initiative (Since there’s no to little way they end this) Based on circumstance only (No different sources)
Any-way Um
Okay
Right Just Vibin’g
Aight Whelp,
Am I?
Oh is that the Senator guy?
Death watch?
Also- okay
Al- right.
?
Wait What?
Hm?
Green
We know two greens And one changeling That should be in custody-
Wait- ?
?
What?
? ? ?
EXPLAIN
?
Who-
What
?
At-
This was a pretty a’ight episode
(Trust me I wish I could give it higher praise)
However the unfortunate clankiness of the introduction
Keeps it stubbornly between a decent and good
With that being said;
That does not take away from the fact that is a ____ whatever it is
-it has good characterization for Satine
- it handles heavy morals like enabling, tox, abuse and pro- blems With Assumed Autho rity- Includ Ing Police Bru- tality And Fram -ing Very Well
(With the appro- priate dignity it deserves,
[there’s a small bit of better done romance/ fond-ness, near the End]
*Villain was neat
[More of sidious and on the [Main] villains
There were few Moments that Made Me Go Wtf (Obi Wan’s Abuse Of The Word “Saw You,” The Insist Ence That Death Watch Was In Tim i- dating
As For Fix -ing;
Episode; Instead of to defend, Wise Saltine is called To ident ify a Death Watch Member- Or Re New Her Neu- Trality Pledge In Person (Due to Change ling (Over Lap) Attack
Episode Pro Gress Es
Arc Fixes;
Obi- won delivers news, that he’s supposed to escort her Pers On Ally, Saltine expects everything to go over swimmingly after all she hasn’t done anything wrong, Quickly find out otherwise, Loyalty over her vs the government
Leads to a small break (Episode continues as normally)
(Death watch- if want)
Fix Arc Continue; (Note no offense to the author meant I just started some thing and I should finish it as an accountable writer)
Satine Is Forced Into Either Defend Ing Or Leaving Anakin To Her Irate People, Soon After Obi-won’s In- Cid ent Pri med
Hope Spot Or Depres. Further. Push Ing Ana -kin’s Dec- Ision To Snap) End
[Generally I thought this was a pretty ____ episode, the animation and set design will really good/ On par and it seems to have made up. (Corrected) A majority of flaws I had with previous episodes . . . Moving On...
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