#idk. like. i think it shows that regina was so far gone not just bc of her hatred for snow but because she lost herself
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mccallhero · 11 months ago
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favourite ouat scenes: 31/?
#snowwhiteedit#reginamillsedit#snowqueenedit#whitequeenedit#not me just finding out they don't have a decent shipname lmao#regina mills#snow white#snow queen#ouatedit#ouat#onceuponatimeedit#once upon a time#mine#gifs#ouat scenes#this is one my fave interactions of them. if not my fave#idk. like. i think it shows that regina was so far gone not just bc of her hatred for snow but because she lost herself#like here? this interaction? it just shows that she doesn't entirely hate snow. along with the whole ep#like. for a second i think we see regina remembering snow as a kid and not the woman she hates and then regina's genuinely like#oh fuck maybe it's not too late. maybe i can go back to who i used to be. but then they find the slaughtered village and snow is like#:/// that's kinda not cool regina. and regina's like... ok i am the evil queen nvm#but this interaction/whole ep i think just shows that regina's a villain not only because of hatred but because she lost the person#she used to be. and then snow said this and it was a reminder to regina that once upon a time (haha) she was a good person#and snow's last line of 'oh i hope she comes back some day' honestly?? i cry when i hear it. the way ginny delivers it is so perfect#and it makes me think of the mother/daughter relationship that snow would have thought she and regina had once. and how snow misses her#and how snow knows that there was a good woman corrupted by evil and pain and loss. and that's why snow never wanted to give up on regina#and idk season 2 just did such a good job at writing regina. defo my fave season for her#tag rant#u1
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cookinguptales · 7 years ago
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So while I was in NYC, I got to see Mean Girls, Spongebob Squarepants, and Anastasia. It was really a combination of lottery winnings and tkts, though I did splurge and get myself the Mean Girls ticket ahead of time. Despite how I got the rest of the tickets, I actually had pretty good seats at all the shows! So that part was nice.
More in-depth thoughts under a cut, but can I just say how weird it is that like... I think I had the most fun at Spongebob? I only went bc I won the lottery but like. I genuinely enjoyed that show. lol. Reminds me of when I went to see Shrek: The Musical on a lark with my friend, and we were shocked that it’s actually a great show.
I saw Spongebob first, an evening show. It was also my most high-pain day, so I have to admit that something funny and a little stupid (with a good heart) was probably exactly what I needed. The music was fun and catchy (not a shock, I guess, considering the people they got to do music for them) and the actors did a really spectacular job. I realized after coming home that I had some different actors than appear on the recording, but I liked my actors more. The Mr. Krabs I saw sounded so spot-on that it was a little creepy, lol, and our Plankton was super fun. I was kind of shocked when the guy who played Squidward started talking in a straight-up British accent after the show, lmao.
I laughed at a lot of the jokes, and though I never really expected to see Patrick Star leading a cult, it was apparently exactly what I wanted out of my evening. Plus, it actually had some pretty good lessons for kids. Don’t turn on each other and scapegoat immigrants when bad things happen, think for yourselves and always try to fix problems rather than running away from them, sometimes people say things that sound profound but won’t actually help you, diversity is valuable… I think it kind of veered into a trope I’m not in love with (immigrants are great because they’re useful) but I think it was also good for kids to see a character who was female (and played by a black woman) who was fantastic at science, kind, determined, and the one who ultimately saves the day. I also liked that the show was clear that her pain and wariness didn’t go away just because people started accepting her again. I think it managed to go in on some really good lessons without ever feeling preachy about it.
Plus, again, the show was just super fun. I love how it played with the space (like the way the actors kept interacting with the band and the conductor) and the jokes were genuinely funny. Patchy wandering around and trying to crash the show was great. The songs were catchy and fun and it was really cohesively done. Also, I think it really managed to nail the feeling of the characters and this underwater world without being too on-the-nose. (I’m looking at you, Little Mermaid.)
Was it the deepest, most memorable show I’ve ever seen? No. But it was a lot of fun, and fun is frankly what I needed right then.
Next, I saw Mean Girls. I’ll admit that my enjoyment of this show was marred by a couple things. It’s not the most accessible theater (I never did get to see the merch booth…) and the lead actress was out. There was a standby actress who could play like… 6-7 different characters? And I was really ??? when I saw that, like. There were really two options. Either she’s the best actress on earth, who can totally transform herself so she can play such diverse roles… or she’s generic af. Unfortunately, she turned out to be the latter. Like, don’t get me wrong! She was technically proficient and could sing really well! She just didn’t feel like Cady. There was something missing there, y’know? Some spark or charisma. She was just boring to watch, which kind of dampened the whole show. I overheard that it was her first time playing Cady, though, so idk. Maybe she was just nervous.
That aside, though, I did enjoy the show! It was a Wednesday (so I did wear pink) and it had a lot of the heart of the movie. It was really funny, and I liked how Janice and Damien were used to frame the show. They made for great, hilarious narrators. I really enjoyed most of the songs, too. Some were a little forgettable, I’ll admit, but others were really touching (particularly Gretchen’s solos) or super funny. Damien sings a whole song about how sometimes you just need to STOP and I loved it. The song was hilarious. The script itself was packed with good stuff. There were great jokes and good social commentary, more depth for some of the forgotten side characters and some really touching moments.
Plus, Cady aside, the rest of the actors did a tremendous job. My one gripe with the original movie is that… idk, the actress who played Regina George never quite felt like she could actually be a queen bee in a real school. Is that weird to say? The other girls around her just felt prettier and more charismatic, so it was hard to buy that she would actually be in charge. The Regina in the musical, though? Holy shit, you feel it. That woman could walk through Times Square and every eye would be on her. She did an absolutely fantastic job with Regina, and the other huge standouts to me were Gretchen and Janice. Just excellent, excellent jobs all around. I really love how much time the show gave to Gretchen so you could really get where she was coming from. Get that poor girl a therapist, honestly.
I think part of the problem is that, all things considered, it’s difficult not to compare Mean Girls to Heathers. And frankly, Heathers is a better show, imo. They’re both good! But I do sort of feel like Mean Girls could’ve gone in a little harder, and its music wasn’t nearly as memorable as Heathers’s. That said, like Heathers, Mean Girls: The Musical has a LOT more potential for f/f than the movie. lmao. And isn’t that really what we’re all here for?
(I mean no, probably not, but it’s what I’m here for.)
The third show I saw was Anastasia, and I gotta admit it. I’m shocked how much I didn’t like Anastasia. I’ve been wanting to see it for ages because that movie was my childhood, but I bounced hard off that show. Like I was kind of hanging in there for the first act, but I was literally wishing I could check my watch during the second act. Plus we had an u/s for Dmitri and he was. Not fabulous. I always feel bad saying that about understudies but like. He was……… not fabulous. So the criticisms I have going forward about Dmitri in the show might be colored by that. Bear with me.
Now, the show is super different from the movie. And I understand why they chose to go for realism rather than fantasy, but I disagree with that choice very, very firmly. Not only did it make the whole show a real fucking downer, but like… I feel like when you make movies about real people, you either have to go completely realistic or go real fucking far off the deep end. Like the movie really went in on the near-mythic stature that Anastasia and Rasputin had in history and folklore during that period. It went in hard with magic and zombies and had a real fairy tale feeling that only really worked because of the wild tales people were already telling about the historical personages. No one watched the animated movie about Anastasia and went “wow, I bet that’s just like real life”.
The show decided that they wanted to be more realistic and talk about like. God, execution of political prisoners and people starving in the streets and refugees and just generally the politics of Leningrad. So not only was that fucking depressing, but it really pulled things back to be like… If you’re being all realistic about this, shouldn’t you be more realistic about the real life people you’re using for this story? This isn’t how Anastasia’s life went, and I can buy that in a fantasy what if? AU, but when you’re aiming for gritty realism, then telling this story about a person who was executed (and yes, we now know she was executed) is just… It feels disrespectful, y’know?
Plus once you start bringing in the real politics of the world, I’m going to start examining the characters through a real historical lens. A love triangle is annoying and unnecessary anyway, but you managed to make it fucking creepy by having this guy stalk her after his dad killed her entire family, and while he’s still working for an oppressive regime. That’s not romantic! But you also managed to fuck up royally by making that actor far more handsome and charismatic, not to mention a much better singer, than the actual love interest!
Like! Dmitri only barely worked in the movie, y’know? You have to straddle such a fine, fine line with a lovable con man. If you take out the lovable, he’s just a fucking con man. And in the show, he just felt like a con man. Again, the fact that the u/s couldn’t sing all that well (he went sour several times and sometimes sounded just like Ernie, of Sesame Street, which is kind of the opposite of sexy) did not help things. But he was also just a fucking dick to Anya and it was difficult to tell why she liked him, other than the writing’s new decision to make her basically a street urchin like him. (As in, she’d been living on the street for many years previous to the show’s start — he also never worked in the palace and saved her life in the musical; it was never actually stated how she escaped in the musical.)
The actress who played Anya did an amazing job, but the writing for her character was pretty ??? most of the time. Like I get that you want to make her feisty (and why did you choose AN ATTEMPTED RAPE TO DISPLAY HER STRENGTH?) but if she’s really so street smart, why does she constantly make bizarre decisions? Why does she want to go to Paris if she doesn’t have the Together In Paris necklace? Why is she having a weird love triangle between a man who verbally abuses her and a government official who wants her dead? WHY DID YOU MAKE IT CLEAR THAT SHE HAD A DOG AND THE DOG IS DEAD? Poor Pooka!
Speaking of people I can’t root for knowing actual historical fact, they changed Sophie into an ex-Russian dilettante named Lily who spends all her time complaining that she used to be rich af in Russia and it’s so sad that all of the Russian elite had to give up their major Russian fortunes so they could… have minor French fortunes and cushy jobs. Like every time they started reminiscing about the good ol’ days in Russia, I was just like “oh right, that’s why they had a revolution, eat the fucking rich”. Like the new background they made up just made me despise her and all her friends.
They also made Anastasia’s grandma kind of a bitch. You’re really kind of forcibly reminded how awful monarchies can be whenever she talks about politics! And that cute, short scene in the movie where she finally meets Anya? Drawn out to like a half hour of this old woman rambling about how awful the world is and how she hates everyone and Anya is just a tricksy bitch. Fun times for all!
Plus like. I don’t remember a single song from the musical that wasn’t in the movie. I hate that they took out all of the magic and the talking animals and Rasputin (how did they never even mention the HISTORICAL one?) and they just had to rub it in by cannibalizing In The Dark of The Night and turning it into a depressing-ass song about political refugees who were fleeing Russia and would never see it again. (Note: the singer of this song was shot in the head by Russian authorities shortly after singing it.)
The only thing the musical really did was make me so sad for these people who had a revolution because their rulers were deeply corrupt and used the lives of the poor like pawns, and then had an equally corrupt government regime move in. The people were starving either way! And the musical trying to romanticize all that (they kind of wanted to acknowledge the historical crimes but still make me like the people who caused the problems??) just felt awful. They tried to work this story in with the real historical timeline by being like YEAH SHE WAS REAL AND THEY REUNITED BUT THEN SHE DECIDED TO LEAVE AND NEVER TELL ANYONE WHO SHE WAS AGAIN SO THE CREEP IN THE GOVERNMENT DIDN’T GET IN TROUBLE AND NO ONE EVER KNEW THAT THE REAL ANASTASIA WAS ALIVE. Like what. No. They found her fucking corpse. You can’t try to follow real life and have her actually be Anastasia. You can’t have your cake and eat it too! Do you want to make a musical about the plight of the Russians during this time period, or do you want to write a fairy tale? You can’t do both! All you’ve managed to do is play out some bad history and make me feel kind of gross.
….and boring music, questionable politics, and fuckin dreariness aside, the writing was just bad. The second act dragged on and on and on because they would never say in a minute what they could say in an hour. I was kind of bored and annoyed both. If you’re going to change a story and add an hour and a half of material, it better be good material. And it wasn’t. The only bright spots for me were the spectacular costumes (really gorgeous), the interesting sets, and the woman who plays Anastasia.
Other than that, I was not thrilled. All it did was make me want to go watch the ding-dang movie so I could just see the ding-dang bat.
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onceuponamirror · 8 years ago
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Have you seen the latest episodes of Once? If so, how annoyed are you about the current plot line surrounding Hook? Feels like they keep running his redemption arc into the ground over and over, while every other redeemed villain *cough* Regina *cough* gets a free pass. The writing seems to have gone severely downhill, which is pretty sad. :/ Crossing my fingers they surprise me in the next few episodes.
i haven’t seen the latest two episodes tbh. :/ both because i’m genuinely busiest on sunday-tuesday so i miss the window of excitement and because i’m feeling a bit huffy about this season.
i said this a little ways back but i’m dragging my feet to some episodes because i’m frankly sick of the retconning around regina, especially in comparison to the treatment killian gets.
don’t get me wrong! killian was a villain and did bad things and i want the show to hold him accountable for that. i think it’s necessary that if you introduce character with a dark past like killian’s and then make him a romantic lead, it’s your responsibility to explore the “bad boy” trope. if he’s bad, how is he a good romantic partner? if he’s trying to be good, how does his past effect him? that’s okay to me. 
the problem with it is that it’s happened so many damn times already. it’s just recycling the same storylines from season 4 and 5. 
it’s like…there has to be another way to show this!! i personally would’ve loved to have seen him try to raise his brother (this was assuming he was still a child in storybrooke, not aged bc he was outside the curse, like in this fic here: x) and explore his past evils directly with the people they effected. 
and then, comparatively, we have regina, literal mass murderer, to whom the writers are bending over backwards to make her feel better about senseless death and destruction. they’re even destroying the characterizations of others in service of that.
i’ve already said it as succinctly as i could in a past post, so i’ll just quote myself for the rest:
I can’t speak for everyone, but what upset me was the fact they made Emma “weak” because she was raised in a loving, healthy environment. They made Emma THANK Regina for forcing the separation of herself and her parents as a baby, THANKED Regina for the upbringing she had that was full of abandonment and neglect and abuse. It says that female strength only comes from trauma.
It’s a terrible, sexist trope that is constantly reinforced in media— how abuse, sexual or emotional, is the only thing that creates “badass” women; they are only badass because they learn to fight back. No. It’s fucked up.
The writers later say that Emma appeared that way because it was the Evil Queen’s wish—she would want her enemy to be unable to fight her. But like, Emma doesn’t know that? Emma now thinks that she should be grateful she’d been neglected all her life. What the fuck kind of thing is that to do to your main character?
I don’t hate Regina. Sometimes I even like her. But I am SO SICK of the writers warping the narrative, washing over her multitude of evils, and even now sugarcoating them, just to make her, a fictional character, her fans, or themselves (? I can’t really tell anymore) feel better about her redemption. But like a great line from Westworld—you can’t learn from your mistakes if you don’t remember them.
Redemption doesn’t exist without awareness and atonement of our past. So by writing over her murders/rain of destruction, patting her on the back and having Emma thanking her, it not only undermines the credibility of the character redemption, it also sends a multitude of terrible messages. So wtf.
so like in summary, i don’t mind the killian stuff as much as i mind the recycled storyline of it. and i’m really sick of the regina retconning. what happened to season 3 regina? when she was like, “yeah i fucked up yeah i did all this shit but i regret nothing because it gave me henry and that’s all that matters.” that was a regina i liked, because she 👏 owned 👏 her 👏 shit 👏 
but idk. at this point it feels like we’re going towards the end of the show, or at least the end of some of these stories, so my grumbling will only take me so far. i do plan on watching the episodes in a bit. i might skip this next EQ one though. 
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