#idk it just feels weird when ppl r so easily able to embrace feminity in skinnier /more uwu-y/ characters

[kyuriman]

Something kinda meh with the sp fandom (but definitely not limited to) is the erasure of Cartman and Kenny's feminine identities (especially Cartman).

A part of me thinks this side of them gets buried because they get ID'd as tops in ships (not all the time ofc but often) and a lot of ppl are still under the impression that masc=top and fem=bottom.

So characters like Butters (who is generally ID'd as a bottom) who reluctantly crossdressed as a girl now gets more representation and exploration when it comes to gender identity than two characters who openly enjoy it.

Obv everyone is free to have their own headcanons and interpretations but I see a LOT of south park HCs where Cartman is like embarrassed to dress feminine or makeup and it just feels like we're watching two different shows.

[acloudofsparklingdust]

Hey, August. My sister is an EXTREME libfem. Hates terfs. Listens so all these podcasts with “male feminists”. I don’t know. I don’t know if I should try to tell her that I feel very strongly—that radical feminism has helped me so much and I hold a lot of radfem beliefs. She doesn’t know this. Idk if she should ever know. But I feel weird. I care about my sister so much. We get along. And ofc ppl can have different beliefs and politics. I should be used to this, as I have a lot of right wing 1/?

Right wing family members. So I should be used to this by now. I just feel very alone, because I have to admit, I resent the mainstream LGBT community. I feel like the evil, cruel woman they think I am. But I have just had ENOUGH. (2/2)

Hey, friend! I’m so sorry you’re struggling, and also for taking a while to respond. This period of my life is taking its toll on me, lol. Anyway, I hope you see this response.

I’m sorry you’re struggling with this. I think the best approach with your sister, if you’re close, and feel it’s important that she understands how your opinions divert on this matter, would be to tell her about your different opinions as well as you can, without actually using the words “radical feminist” or “terf” or what have you. This way you can expose your ideology and make yourself understood and even respected without raising their defenses immediately, because they have such a strong aversion to the idea of radical feminism.

People usually respond very well to basic radical rhetoric: the idea that women’s biology is an important part of the definition of womanhood, in the context of fighting against misogyny is not actually that wild. Saying that women’s biology is the reason why they’re oppressed, and that women deserve to be protect against crimes against them... Not that wild. The idea that woman has been historically oppressed by man is not only true, but easily proven by statistics and hard facts. 

They may say “oh, but what about the TIMs, their feelings, their well being, their rights?” and the best response I’ve found when debating with liberals is to just point out all the ways in which trans activism directly and negatively affects women’s rights. And they may say “so do you hate men then?” and the best answer is probably to say that you hate men’s actions against women, their behavior, and that though sure, they’re entitled to trying to improve, it is not feminism’s job to help them with that, as a movement for female liberation.

I grew up in a Christian environment, and my close friends have conservative view points even if they don’t outright consider themselves right wing. I find that using language that is clear to them is the best way to make them understand my opinion while not feeling like they’re a direct attack to their own belief systems. 

Honestly, I’m sure that as someone who has family who are aligned with right wings politics, you’ve had to learn this yourself. Sometimes, it’s all a matter of keeping a level head and using the right language... And also knowing when to tap out. 

If you think your sister is too far gone, and might somehow make your life harder once she knows about this, it is totally okay to not reveal your beliefs. I know it can be extremely isolating to hide such a huge part of your politics, especially when lately the mainstream ideas about it are so backwards and directly harmful to LGB individuals and women. But your personal safety and mental health comes first. 

There are people out there who agree with you and are willing to stand behind you. You are not alone, and you have us. I know it’s hard, the need for community is very strong in us humans, and I feel it too. But yeah, it’s like arguing with that one annoying uncle who makes shitty sexist comments every chance he gets: there’s no point, he’ll come out of it feeling vindicated, and you won’t be able to change his mind. 

I also will say... Embrace being the “evil cruel woman”. You have reasons behind your beliefs, and you know them. If people wanna paint you otherwise, that is their loss. I’m sure you are kind, and nice, and caring. You’re entitled to also be angry and done with all this bullshit we’ve been fed by the qu**r circles lately. So if they wanna view you as evil, let them. Continue on your own path, it’s okay. It’s okay to not have mainstream beliefs, it’s okay to disagree. It’s okay that people may not like you for this. What they think of us doesn’t actually change the reality of what we are. Understand that, and stand strong with that knowledge. 

I’m not saying it’s easy, nor do I think my words are magic and poof you’ll be healed of your worries. But trying to shift your perspective on what it means to be disliked for believing women deserve basic decency is a good first step to stopping letting other people’s shortcomings and other people’s hatred make you feel hateful yourself.

I wish you the best, and whether you decide to tell your sister or not... Know that you don’t stand alone. Take care, stay safe.