#idk if ppl get hate anons about liking the ship - maybe it goes both ways im not sure

[piplupod]

toh spoilers:

just finished the new episode and im going insane fjdskl why is everyone saying huntlow is canon?? its literally not??? theyre still easily just friends???

very relieved tbh bc that would've been such lazy writing (huntlow is ... a bad ship imo sorry fsjdkl it just would genuinely be lazy writing and doesn't work well) and i mean the writing rn is ... not my favourite, im not a fan of the whole will-they-won't-they thing they've got going on, but I understand why its there. however that does make me think that it's more likely theyre going to go in a "they will not" direction and the writers are waiting until the last episode so that huntlow shippers don't blow a gasket and abandon the show (some of the hl shippers are wild from what i've seen fdsjkl)

idk! good episode! also i thought i got spoilered on what luz's palisman was going to be and it turns out i actually didnt so im really happy about that too!!

also i can go into why i think it's a bad ship if anyone is curious fdsjkl mostly its to do w the characterization and traumas that the two characters have and the cop-out of "relationships fix people :)" style of relationships in media that gets very tiring to see esp as a trauma survivor myself fdsjkl. like if it gets canonized i will still watch bc i can deal with it but it is just... disappointing to see that trope so often idk

[despiteherself]

Maurice for the character ask?

anon literally love u for sending in Maurice, like….. i don’t think I’ve ever done any serious maurice chats that aren’t just about kj. i mean a bunch of this probably is gonna be abt kJ but still!

* favorite thing about them

I feel like I keep saying complexity but I really like that he is given so many layers. The fact that he is sensitive and that’s it’s not seen as a huge massive joke all the time - and that there’s an entire episode where julien tries to apologise for making a joke of it. That the teasing and jokes about his sensitivity become nice, and appreciative. I like how he acts all cool-headed and chill but then is absolutely prone to panicking dnkskskskksksisk but he’s still brave even when he’s literally paralysed with fear! Maurice is so fun, and he’s got a lot of love to give and it’s so fun to watch him learn how to share it.

* least favorite thing about them

I get that it’s just a plot joke for a kids show with very limited continuity but like… I kind of get tired of him not believing in kj. like it gets to a point where theres tonnes of good ideas that kj has, or like…. they just need a little moderation (which is his job!!!!) like does he have to keep acting kj is a moron who's never had a good idea in his life.

* favorite line

Hmmm this one is hard. I like all the references to spring break and the woman i forgot her name, and also when he’s being sarcastic but probably when he’s about to drop down the pit in exiled and tells kj he cares & believes in him and that he’s so proud of who kj’s become (I forget the exact words but that’s the vibe) like……. Ahhhhhhhhh

also the bromance song <3 that’s fun

* brOTP

I mean???? pretty much everyone within obv his found family (royal quartet <3), and his sister, but also like Xixi and hector and stuff. Maybe also pancho & Andy like sjsksokskdjdid he has to deal with royal shit and they’re both getting caught all the time so he’s like “sigh, guys, more paperwork” and they become friends. Plus Maurice & the rats …… come on!!! King Joey and Maurice friendship for us all

also I like skipper & Maurice bffs, Marlene & Maurice. OH BEST FRIEND TRIO <3

plus Maurice & the zoosters is such a fun dynamic!! he gets to talk with them on another level. Plus!!! Maurice and the chimps, we deserved more of that (I forget if he talks to them much in tpom?)

* OTP

I don’t rlly ship him with anyone

* nOTP

i wouldn’t say this is a notp completely, bc i understand the continuity is all over the place and i guess why ppl would like it, but i don’t rlly like jumo that much bc to me he’s literally kj’s mother figure. like they l i t e r a l l y have him take kj’s mum’s place when kj is realising he just needs his found family & not his birth parent’s approval. there’s SO MUCH symbolism and referring to maurice (& clover) as julien’s family, so much emphasis on being family it’s like…. makes me 😬 also i think there’s an unbalanced power dynamic which makes me 😬 too.

* random headcanon

I think Maurice should have an acid jazz band that plays Friday nights at the rat kingdom or something. Oh!!!! Wait…… his sister’s bar right??????????? Where he was Bricky sjdjosnsujdidowkakise I forgot. Anyway I think he should go have fun and keep the Bricky persona and have some aye-aye friends and idk a crocodile who play jazz together.

* unpopular opinion

are there Maurice unpopular opinions??? Hm maybe I don’t think tpom Maurice hates tpom kj & in fact he goes out of his way to do nice things for him. He’s often much meaner in words, but he still cares for kj!!!

I think the baby patch cannon is fun and I love what that brings to the table for maurice’s character, but in my heart he will always be like 10–15 yrs kj’s senior

[golbrocklovely]

I didn’t want to put my two cents in but I guess here I am lol anyways I get what you’re saying about stans being quick to defend their faves but what’s there to defend when someone respectfully and kindly says they don’t like certain content? at that point it goes beyond “defending” it’s basically just a bunch of stans trying to silence someone else’s opinions and thoughts :/ which i do feel like you and the other anons were trying to do. This isn’t hate but i just wanted to share a bystanders perspective on it lmao

even tho i said i was done talking about this, i'm gonna answer this ask and then one other that i just got. after this, i'm not talking about this anymore today. if you or any other anon send in another ask about this topic, i'm just gonna ignore it and not answer it for the sake of my own sanity lol

from my perspective as someone who has been in colby's fandom a while, i feel like a lot of us are on the defense when it comes to him. colby gets hate for a lot of dumb fucking things. are there things he's done that is messed up and worth talking about/calling him out for? 1000%, and i do that when it happens. however, there is a lot of stuff that he does that gets hate even tho he did nothing wrong. all he did was exist and that's enough reason for ppl to hate him. hell, that's why he's not on twitter that much anymore, bc for months on end he got hate every time he tweeted. so he just stopped. he only recently started to dip his toes back in the hellscape that is twitter.

that being said, bc of this onslaught of hate, i feel like a lot of fans are on the defense with him, ready to defend him whenever. and especially when it comes to girls, bc there's a lot of internal fighting in our own fanbase. some fans are super disrespectful to the girls, some to the both of them, some try to tell ppl not to talk about it bc it starts drama, some ship it to hell and back, some argue over who's the best fit for him... it's a never ending shit storm when it comes to his love life and our opinions on it. i try to remain positive and neutral bc at the end of the day, it doesn't effect me in the slightest. do i find his love life interesting nonetheless? yeah. but i don't really focus on it outside of on here and when we're all just discussing it together anyway.

and i think a lot of problems happens bc it's hard to indicate tones when ppl are discussing on here (or online in general). you can't tell if i'm being serious or sarcastic, or outright yelling at you. even if i say i'm being light hearted about something, it's still hard to tell. so i think that's where problems can arise.

for the two anons that posted about not liking the content amber and colby make, even tho i don't agree with them, that doesn't mean i was hating on them. bc i even said in both of those asks 'i might not agree but i get why you feel the way you do'. and i would like to argue that there is no way i'm silencing them when i'm literally answering their asks. silencing them would be not answering the ask at all.

and the other anons weren't silencing them either. they were just disagreeing.

i let my ask box be a space where anyone, regardless of if i agree with your opinion or not, is allowed to discuss things that have to deal with snc. i let everyone speak, minus the handful of times i've gotten hate or have been sent mean things about other ppl (those i don't post and only sometimes address if necessary). i have no way of stopping an ask coming in that disagrees with another anon. if i think the ask is super mean, calling the anon names or something like that, i won't answer it.

the two anons that disagreed with the previous two maybe could have been nicer, but i don't believe they were trying to be malicious to the other anons. they were just saying what they believed, much like the previous anons were doing. i think their intentions got lost in translation bc of a lack of tone (and also jumping the gun to defend colby) and it came across as rude. and even tho i didn't agree with the previous anons, i still added in their view point when i responded to these anons.

at the end of the day, you should do what makes you happy. if watching amber and colby's content doesn't do that, then stop watching it. idk how else to explain it.

fandom discourse should be fun and light hearted bc that's what it's meant to be. we're all talking about ppl that don't know us for christ's sake. let's have a little fun with it and try our best to be respectful of ppl's opinions, regardless if they go against our own.

[mikanrulz]

(Europe-Anon) Aaaaaaaaayyyyy!!! The new episode was awesome!!! The story is finally moving and Azazel, Kaisar, Favaro, and Rita are back in action! Ayyyy!!! I've never looked forward so much to the next episode. And Nina look so good in El's clothes. But he looked so weird in hers XD (Too bad Sparkly boy wasn't there :/ But he's in the opening, so he should get some screen-time, right? Right?)

nice to know i’m not the only one thinking the story has been dragging its feet :’)

when looking at thursday/friday spoiler pics, I already feared nothing would happen again this ep, but to my pleasant surprise, I was totally wrong lol

on to ep16! :D (also i like this illustration a lot)

how did mugaro’s clothes even fit her… like, esp the chest area??? she’s supposed to be  at least a head taller, but the length of the clothes fits her way too well like, do they stretch automatically perhaps???

and more importantly, how did mugaro even manages to clothe her at all???? wouldn’t that mean he has to touch her all over for that??? and she doesn’t wake up at all???

mugaro looks unfit in nina’s clothes probably bcs nina’s clothes still has chest plating, and worn by mugaro, those chest plating just seem… empty :’)

in the dream she thinks it’s charioce, but it’s actually mugaro all along??

bacchus implying he gets exiled bcs he fell for a human girl but wouldn’t that overlap with azazel’s background story? I guess this just means they have no plan to animate azazel’s background story after all :’)

Azazel is so so pretty this ep I’m gonna cry???? help???

also his bodyline is drawn so nicely I’m just. alfdkfhadkfhd

when Favaro finally appeared again, I was mostly just. as expected of the former protag: you can be all cool and funny and competent at the same time while looking totally natural about it :’)

I’m so glad Favaro is back; there’s just something calming/reassuring about his presence.

and kaisar!

I thought in short story kaisar only won bcs jeanne lost her blessing, but it seems it’s only bcs kaisar is actually SUPER STRONK haha

he has only one hand and yet azazel couldn’t defeat him

only last ep azazel was trying to stay alive but this ep he tries to make kaisar kill him - does it mean he just think at least if he dies in kaisar’s hand, his death would have at least a little meaning/purpose?

during that scene where kaisar pretends to stab azazel, i can’t be the only one thinking he does it for real right? not bcs he wants to kill him dead, but more bcs human tools can’t literally kill him

unless kaisar also actually takes that green stone into account and just doesn’t want to risk it at all

THANK YOU FOR YOUR KINDNESS AND CONSIDERATION KAISAR ;___;

oh my kaisar now truly can’t go back to Orlean Knights now can he? His failure to accept punishment aside, he has basically admitted he’s familiar with the Rag Demon, and he even escaped together with him in full of the whole colosseum

Dias at least still looks loyal, but Alessand is naive as usual^^

Also per usual, Rita to the rescue

much of this ep feels like genesis ep11, i’m in tears ;O;

both have tsundere azazel, kaisar sweet-talking azazel, Rita saving everyone, favaro saving kaisar, kaisar losing his hand (again)….

the genesis casts are the best part honestly ;O;

favaro’s amused voice as he tells kaisar to leave azazel alone!

the fact kaisar needs to use words to convince azazel, but a smile is enough to convince favaro!

kaisar and azazel’s height difference!

the fact that Rocky has just returned to its original body and yet still chooses to be with Rita!

THAT NAIL FILE THO

that’s a nail file right? Ritaaaaaaa how do you suggest azazel use it exactly omg

like should he use it like a saw, and stracth his collar bit by bit???

WHAT KIND OF SUBTLE TORTURE

no worry, if he keeps at it diligently enough, he’d get the collar off in a week if he’s lucky maybe lmao

also the fact azazel goes back inside means he’s going to try it in a place where he’s alone/where he can’t be seen by others

ARE YOU ACTUALLY EMBARRASSED AZAZEL OMG

“i don’t need your charity,” he tsundere-ly says as he sashays back inside, totally missing Rita’s smirk and how she just puts one over him

also, who wanna bet azazel would eventually end up asking kaisar’s help with the collar since it’s pretty hard doing it himself? :D

sparkly boy indeed XD

lucifer not appearing again in some time is to be expected, so no surprise there :’)

i too can’t wait for the next ep *_______*

Speaking of Nina

confirmed ppl to have seen her naked:

rita azazel (ep1+2)

bacchus hamsa rita azazel (ep4)

favaro (ep9)

rita kaisar charioce jeanne (+ unnamed legion of soldiers) (ep13)

jeanne (ep14)

mugaro (ep16)

confirmed ppl to have touched her naked body:

azazel

rita

charioce

jeanne

mugaro

…so have ppl shipped nina/mugaro yet bcs they totally look cute and comfy together

it’s been a while since i found nina cute, but in this ep she’s just. really cute???

or maybe it’s the fact this ep reveals that deep down in her subconsciousness, she actually acknowledges that what charioce had done is very harmful and hurt a lot of ppl

the fact she suppresses it in her waking moment could indeed be actually related to her father trauma idk

just nina in ep15 bothers me a lot with that line where she thinks “i don’t want ppl hating you.”

it’s just inappropriate of her to think like that, esp since she hasn’t actually heard chari’s side of story and every ppl she met told her what the king did and how he hurt them.

like, mostly my thought during this scene is “maybe before you ask ppl to stop hating charioce, you should ask charioce to stop bullying ppl first.”

if nina’s actually going to end up choosing charioce over the world, i have no problem with that.

In fact, it’s actually one of my fav tropes in fiction: how a character still chose a person over the world, with the full awareness they would condemn everyone and everything in the process.

the thing about nina is (at least until ep15), she lacks this awareness; chari’s never directly hurt her, so she can’t think of him as ‘bad’, even as everybody else literally tells her he’s bad.

the world is in peril, angels are dying and diminishing in number, demons are dying left and right, and all she cares about is how the world doesn’t seem to like her crush - who is the cause of all the problems in the first place (as various ppl keep telling her)

it makes it hard to sympathize with her (At least for me)

if nina’s actually going to end up choosing chari in the end, by all means, do it; but pls also show her admitting/acknowledging how bad his deeds are; he hurt a lot of ppl for the sake of his (still unclear) goal, and is totally remorseless about it.

also her love story looks totally insignificant in the grand scheme of things, esp compared to the demon/human/gods conflict

while the rest of the characters are struggling in the “ruin” part of the story, nina alone is busy living in “love” part of the story and this may seem cute at first, but after 15 eps of no change it’s just… haha 

at this point, she just looks totally unsympathetic and ignorant which is… such a waste.

and ep16 gives her hope at last; that a conflict is brewing inside her and not all is fine after all :’)