#idk how this fuckery appeared but it was a vision

[jamtemz]

Me when when when I when I wake up

[kaidatheghostdragon]

Quick google map search says the round river building is a casino, lol. I absolutely love the idea of making it a research building.

The bridge between amity and elmerton was a golden gate knockoff, so the water space there is absolutely large enough. I always kinda figured the river was more of an artificial lake created by a dam downstream to account for its width, and if the beach (in attack of the killer garage sale) is along the river, then it accounts for the stillness of the water and the ability to build up a sandy beach for tourism. (Which could be an interesting point of contention if the dam operators forgot there was a city upstream that needs water AND to not be flooded. Guess another amity parker needs to be stationed there.)

I thought the foleys being dentists was universal fanon? Business debt absolutely makes sense here. Idk about dentistry specifically, but starting pretty much any business in the US is a huge money sink to get started. Specialized equipment, business license, etc, all cost money, and high taxes make it very difficult to pay off start-up debts.

Anecdote time, ive heard that an unusually high percentage of dentists in the US are mormon. Im not sure how to go about looking this up and verifying that its true, but from what i understand, one of the main dentistry schools here preferencially accepts mormons to the point they had to fight a lawsuit for discrimination. My understanding is that they won, because they were able to prove that they had found mormons to be more fiscally responsible and more likely to pay off school debts, had a higher work ethic, and caused fewer problems because they dont drink or party like typical college students do. Ie, they never actually selected for mormonism, but knowing the person was mormon was a good indicator of other traits that they did select for. Anecdote over.

Idk if tucker would be mormon specifically, but i dont think some generic christian would be out of character. It's a nice contrast to sam being canonically jewish and danny being fanonically athiest or agnostic. (His parents *certainly* dont understand the true meaning of christmas.)

As for Tucker noticing the credit card fuckery, I pretty much agree with your assessment. To me, the trio dynamics appeared to me as Sam being the Big Idea person, Tucker being the goal-oriented Executor, and Danny being the Workhorse that can Make Anything Happen.

Sam, to me, seems like she's got grand ideas but thinks too big to be able to break things down into managable steps. She's too caught in the moment and focused too much on the grand gesture of Making A Stand. Tucker seems like the expert in that regard, making schedules and managing progress. He keeps track of the minutia, makes records, and sets reasonable goals. Danny is as much along for the ride as he is the leader. He keeps Sam and Tucker focused and working together instead of competing, and is the leader in the sense that he's the tie-breaker and the strategist that puts the others to best use. But he's very much beholden to Sam's Ideas and Tucker's Management. They're all equals and pull their own weight.

I see your vision of building up and agree with your logic. After all, TUE Amity built up, presumably because they were limited by the size of the shield. In this au, once the filter is acknowledged, they might err on the side of caution. You mentioned eclipsing an interstate earlier? Perhaps they recognize that the interstate is an artificial boundary they shouldn't cross. They're also butted up against a river/lake, so thats two sides they're now blockaded. Perhaps another reason the Fenton Research Facility is on the water - it was the only place to build! (Also, if the building caught fire, they could break the foundation and submerge it before it spreads to another building? Idk, just an Idea i had.)

Sam would be a huge proponant of urban farming. There are papers suggesting that with our current technology, skyscraper hydroponic farms might be more efficient than traditional farms. My understanding is that the biggest blockade is startup costs - which we've already solved for Amity. And it provides a space to experiment with liminal cultivars!

I really like the idea of City Planner Sam, its such a logical extension of her Big Ideas personality, and years of ghost hunting with danny and tucker has tempered her to have more achievable ideas, and to defer to experts to advise on what is and isnt safe.

Also, vlad canonically made a ghost shield that also works on humans. Skulker also handcuffed danny and valerie together. Canonically, "humans are the ghosts" in the ghost zone, so i'd imagine making tech to affect both humans and ghosts is simply a matter of building it out of materials from both sides, at least in most cases. Dousing tech in ectoplasm to make it ghost proof is just one example.

Actually, the shield vlad made was blue, iirc, and i think the TUE shield was too? Did alt-future Vlad create the Amity shield, then got banished some time later? In a world where everything is being systematically destroyed by an unstoppable force, humans fighting over resources becomes just as big a threat. Strict immigration limits would also have to be ruthlessly enforced to ensure that pop growth didn't outpace its self sustainability.

Honestly, it makes perfect sense to me that Vlad would have attempted to pull a phantom planet stunt to rule the world in return for creating life-saving defenses. And he didn't have ghost powers to back up his threats, so he eventually got kicked out once someone successfully called his bluff. Valerie and her dad upkept the shields, and Damon canonically works high-tech security, so presumably, he managed to find and remove any sabatoge Vlad might have placed in his tech to keep control, or reverse engineered his own to get society out from under Vlad's thumb, before he was then thrown out to the wolves.

Lastly, ecto-contamination being purely positive. What if it isnt? What if it makes you more obsessive, but it takes years to become noticable? Amity Parkers just shrug it of as being more ghostly. Its an Obsession, capital O, now a legit quirk of psychology, and a bit of management is all you need to stay on top of it.

But outsiders, after several years of deliberately contaminating themselves and after fighting a war against the giw for their fear mongering, are suddenly worried that the giw were right all along? It has the potential to be really hilarious AND really angsty.

I mean, bodies are made for moderation. You eat a little, sleep a little, work a little, play a little, then rinse and repeat. They aren't designed to survive staying up three weeks straight, without stopping for food or rest, while you enter a fugue state hyperfocused on your current interest (to the chagrin of every autist ever). Except liminal biology actually DOES accommodate for that, at least somewhat. Society is gonna have to adjust now that people as a whole are suddenly much less able to stick to a strict schedule of work, sleep, rinse, repeat. (When everybody is autistic, nobody is. Lol.)

Why doesn't the justice league know about Amity Park?

Okay so it's been a bit sonce I watched the show but one of the things in DpxDC is the anti-ecto acts, which I love, but correct me if I'm wrong, I THINK ??? they only show up in reality trip? SO: What if Danny, when using the gauntlet to undo everything, also got rid of the Anti-Ecto acts? but this is babys first time editing reality so he uh Fucks Up A Lil'. As a result when Danny used the reality gauntlet to wipe the AEA from existence he accidentally wiped Amity Park from perception. A big 'nothing matters over here' jedi mind trick, and now no ones looking at Amity. So, the Justice League actually WERE looking into and monitoring the situation in Amity, but when the perception filter closed them off, all of that suddenly went ignored.

This is noticed when someone (Alfred, Dick, Tim, literally anyone) realises theres just. A BIG dusty pile of case files semi abandoned somewhere in the cave when going through a (time period)ly cave cleaning.

They put it down because it's Not Important.

They come back to finish the cleaning the next day and do the exact same thing, but there's nothing to actually distract them this time and it pings as weird. Because why would case files be not important? They are by definition important, because only things flagged as important go into case files.

They try to get someone else to read it, because as long as they don't read the information in the file, they don't put it down.

That person goes to read it, gets a line in and then says something like 'that isn't important' and goes to leave. Person A pushes it and person B ALSO catches on.

Que the Batfam trying to figure out hey, what the fuck actually?

Meanwhile, how is Amity fairing? Canon compliant everything's going alright? Or have knock on effects to No One Look Here started to show?

[lodestarslagoon]

AHS Apocalypse 8x03 Live Stream

SPOILERS UNDER CUT

Oh I thought the opening scene looked like the Dinah, Coco, Mallory descencum. Damn Michael...

Night Vision of the soul? Tell me about your powers!

Lol, spoiler, entitled, helpless. 

OMG COCO! Fire Mallory lol

“Something Dark”

DAMN CALL HER SHALLOW!

Og again? He knows Dinah?

SHE’S NOT POWERFUL ENOUGH?!

DINAH IS A WITCH!

MICHAEL CONFIRMED IT!

Ish

Dinah is in the sanctuary!

Evil soul?

Oh nvm, it’s Andre.

Unless Dinah is Andre’s son...?

God this is one opening scene of mind fuckery.

I want Dinah to use some powers

Mallory’s made for that world?

Mallory should want to leave.

Ew what an ugly close up to Michael.

Oh Mallory has a darkness..... Unfun.

MALLORY PUSHED HIM BACK

MALLORY IS A WITCH!

OMG MALLORY PYROKINESISED MICHAEL!

That’s right Mallory! Call his ass right back out!!!!

OMG MY THEORY THAT DINAH MALLORY AND COCO R WITCHES ARE RIGHT!!!

THEY DID DESCECUM WHEN THE OTHER 3 WALK IN!

BEST OPENING SCENE IN AHS HISTORY!!!

I swear the opening theme has been changing scenes every week.

ITS COMMERCIALS AND I AM SCREAMING IN EXCITMENT STILL THAT MALLORY, BILLIE LOURD, AND DINAH, SAME NAME AS BLACK CANARY, ARE WITCHES!!!

I still wonder if Coco’s a witch based on set pics Ryan Murphy released.

I am so excited to find out how Dinah knows Michael.

Adina Porter came out and said the scripts made her mind twist and turn, and well I hope it’s true cause it’ll be interesting to see a strong black witch since Angela Basset is too busy with 911 to come back as Marie.

Omg Michael’s doing a spell, ritual.

I wonder if it’s Tate father of devil father.

OHHHH It’s a scrying!!!

He thought he destroyed them all?

Michael did the witches?!

HE DESTROYED WHO? THE WITCHES?!

I cant with this fucking shit. Omg Witches need to ocme and take hsi ass back.

Boiling blood is actually kind of a cool effect.

Am I the only one whos still scare dof Michael’s demon face that happened earlier?

Oh yay the snakes are still around.

Ave Satanis... “Awaken Satan” right?

Kathy Bate’s voice is so distinct.

Her own self made costume is adorable.

The tricker treatgiver is a famous actress I remember her from places.

Wasn’t Kathy Bates in Rosemary’s baby?

Go Young Kathy Bates! Slap him.

Oh shit, she’s a good fighter!

Oh she’s an agent. This makes sense.

Can we have Kathy Bates in Spy 2? 

Can someone inform Melissa McCarthy and 50 Cent Piece to get Kathy in on this?

Oh everything happened on Halloween in Kathy Bates’ life. Nice.

Okay as nice as robot Kathy Bates’ life story is, can we get back to the witches?

I still swear Mallory and Coco are connected because they’re witchy powers keep them together.

I am so validated by this knowledge they were witches.

Awww Venable showing support for Kathy Bates is actually touching.

Omg Venable being so adamant on Michael is very interesting.

“That’s Outrageous”

“If you die here, Justice dies here” Really? you’re the sadists here!

“Kill everyone!” Jeez Kathy, these methods are nice.

“ You’re mean and self invovled enough to survive anything, and I’m a robot”

Oh is this guy the Coco husband who screams “You bitch?”

Someone saw a leaked pic that he appears again I think.

I was a finalist on top chef omg hahahhaa

Omg, he is very good “tracking” her for a year.

No one sees the figure approaching behind him?

I wonder where this guy got the gun.

Wait I guess we know officially that the apocalypse did actually happen.

How come these people can breath fine without pain like the people Michael claims he saw.

mother with kids^

OMG ANOTHER WITCH BREACH?!

STEP FORTH WITCHES PLEASE!!!!!

MADISON I INVOKE THEE!!!

They teleported in already I bet.

Ugh.... Why can’t we just reveal the witches already.

Anyone have any guesses where Michael did the ritual? I am very curious? How do people not notice things that happen in this place?

Apples... cause they’re fucking for Adam and Eve aka UCLA and Jail Girl

lol a nurtition blog!

Oh Venable happy enough to try the red delicious.

Vine providence? Wtf Kathy Bates....

Before they die? Don’t you just kill them anyways?

“Not a bad apple in the bunch?” Is that symbolism for they all deserve to go to the sancutary?

WHERE ARE THE WITCHES?

I could honestly care less about Coco’s husbando bf guy.

How can he breath the air and not the guy in the mask?

This Nuclear fallout is making less and less sense to me.

Less sense than where are the witches of all things.

I ownder how Coco will react ot seeing him.

MALLORY STARE AT THE FIRE AND INVOKE THINGS PLEASE!

Oh another Gray got a speaking line.

God I have a lot of thoughts tonight.

Celebration and Comradery?

Wait the only saved Asian is a Gray....

Victorian Masquerade Ball.... @holypancakes is about to blow it!

What are they going to be able to make in this bunker.

Omg Coco, and Gay Evan Peters destroying Mallory is so relatable and sad.

Omg Stew!!! I love how they love Stew.

“I don’t wanna rub it in for the ones who don’t get picked” lol

“No offense Mallory” BAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAJA

These 1v1′s is hilarious.

OMG WHY THE FACE AGAIN :’(

Oh Mallory’s coming out of the broom closet!

Oh they’re laughing at him.

NO MALLORY ITS NOT THE BLAST!

OMG DARK PHEONIX! Shit thats so meta, with Quicksilver right there lol.

Coco commanding shit. 

I know she probably won’t but pleas Mallory do something.

This is such a Cinderella point.

Shit Coco is kind of getting a little far right now.

She totally had a point with Evie’s room.

OH IS THIS WHEN MADISON APPEARS IN THE BEAK MASK TO DINAH OR WHOEVER IN THE TRAILER?!

I know it’s not confirmed but we all know that mask was the same Madison wore for to scare Zoe in Bitchcraft.

LOL “Sweet horses”

Lol Mallory has to introduce her.

LOL THAT BOO

FX WTF DON’T U FUCK UP THE PICTURE AUDIO NOW!

Oh shit Venable knows the Ghosts situation.

I mean if it’s been 18 months, this has happened before.

I wonder how many monologes Sarah Paulson has this season.

WHAT MUSIC WILL PLAY I WONDER?!

No idea what this symbolizes honestly.

Oh UCLA’s wire crown is actually creative.

OMG THE FOG IS ROLLING IN WHICH MEANS THE WITCHES CAN COME!

Madison is not that tall, so idk who that could be.

Mr. Langdon doesn’t seem that tall either.

Is Coco dying? Damn....

I still pray it’s Madison, but still.

Wait Coco got into Harvard?

I hope it’s like by real merit. Not money.

BITCH YOU WERE TRYING TO BE AN INFLUENCER U NEVER MADE IT!

Analingus omg Coco.

Coco’s about to die sigh.

Coco can you not....

Short tongue and sensitive gag reflex. sigh this show.

Oh shit Brock I forgot he was around lol.

HOW DARE SHE INVOKE SUSHI!

Brock doesn’t look happy.

NOOOOOO COCO!!!!!!!!

SOMEONE VITAL VITALUS HER!

WHERE IS MISTY?!

BRING COCO BACK!!!!

COCO WAS SEEN IN OTHER SET PARTS AND SHIT!

Lol festivities and your gun. Bitch, has no clue who Michael is.

So many snakes.

I wonder how bored they must be that this si so thirlling for them.

I wonder how many times these peopl have bobbed for apples. I think it’s harder than this I think.

I also think it’s weird UCLA and Jail Girl are so calm right now about all this. They were about to be murdered last week. I don’t knwo how I could deal with these people.

I wonder how bad this mass suicide will end up.

Oh Gay Evan Peters sis howing signs.

Mallory might be immune?

Oh nvm she threw up.

Oh UVLA had blood on Jail Girl ew.

Gay Evan Peters looked so fake.

I wonder what it’s like to act this scene.

Okay so where is Misty to bring everyone back?

Literally we know Misty is in the first 5 episodes since the trailer promos only filmed the first 5 episodes at time they made it. I thought she’d be in later.

Misty being team Michael would make so much sense based on what we just saw. 

“Oh Venable you think you killed everyone? HA! Watch this,” Michael shows Misty who dances around and brings everyone back.

“And here’s the trick” hahahaha

I’m still waiting for Michael to bring Misty in.

I wonder when they’re going to realize Coco’s like head stabbed.

Oh shit he’s just open about the laptop being there lol.

I think this is funny, let alone Michael.

Oh shit, she passed the test!

I wouldn’t do that either.

NO SCARY FACT IS COMING BACK :’(

Oh wait she’s on his side duh #HailSatan

OH SHIT!!! CONCILUM!!!!

BE THAT WARLOCK MICHAEL!

I know why she did it.

Michael’s monologe right now is so confusing.

Not what he’s saying, but how interested I am.

Where is the witches?

Someone from his childhood?!

The Beautiful Boy? I’m still confused by this.

Okay so this song is so calming over these corpses and bile.

Brock is around doing what right now?

OH SONG CHANGE?!

THERE IS A HOUSE IN NEW ORLEANS?!

Oh no, it might not be?

OMG THEY’RE COMING!

THEY’RE HERE!

OMG I BET THEY ARE!!!!

AHHHHHHHHH!!!!

THEY’RE IN MY EYE SIGHT!

I SEE THEM!!!

I’M DYING!!!!

I AM CANARY CRYING ALL OVER THE PLACE RIGHT NOW!!!!

OMG MY EYES MY HEART MY LIFE!

I CAN’T HANDLE THIS OMG YASSS BRING THEM BACK!

BRING BACK MALLORY AND CO!

FIND OUR SISTERS YES!!!!!!

I KNEW IT COCO IS A SISTER!

YASSSS RESURGENCE! 

Madison looked happy to see them back.

OMG YES MADISON KNEW! SHE GOT THE LAST LINE!

AHHHHH SHE GOT THE LAST LINE!!!!

i am so happy!!!!!

[vkr-kayne]

Dark Silence train of thought

Hi I am freaking out, how are you? these are my million mph thoughts if you’d like to read a huge fuckin brain dump, cool       

EDIT: this got very long I’m soRRY FJALKFD

Who was that really at the end with Anti??? was it Chase or Jack?? bc we heard a bunch of children’s voices, and still no true confirmation that Jack’s woken up from a coma yet

was this in real life or some kind of weird dimension? could it be a nightmare or a vision during a coma?

ANTI WHAT THE FUCK

if the glitch bitch does ANYTHING to Chase’s children i will immediately unstan him

FULL-BODY ANTI

what if there’s some weird fuckin twist where that somehow wasn’t actually Anti at the end?? rational thoughts are failing me so idk if that’s even possible but??? aaaAAHHHHh???

so light changes are a sign of Anti?

WHERE THE FUCK IS JACKIEBOY MAN IN THIS MESS

OR MARVIN

OR JJ ACTUALLY

THE FUCK

Jack’s acting is absolutely incredible and I want to hug that man for all of this. Signe’s camera work is beyond amazing and I would like to hug her too. Robin’s editing is fucking insane for this and sells the atmosphere better than anything I’ve ever seen for him being the only person working on it, and I want to hug that cube man as well.

im supposed to be studying calculus whoopsies

that aint gonna happen

“aint” has the same letters as “anti” oh my god

Is Anti currently going after Chase or Jack? or is he somehow able to go after both simultaneously?

THAT FUCKING LENS FLARE

I feel like a fool for writing out a theory last week about why Anti wouldn’t appear

Anti just came in and bitchslapped that shit outta here

I am deceased

Jack I fucking love/hate you right now

I am super glad that Mayhem2k18 is still officially happening and didn’t end on that depressing vid of Chase

it makes a lot of sense that pink/red colors are associated with Anti since that’s literaLLY THE INVERSE OF GREEN

THEY’RE GODDAMN OPPOSITES SO OF GODDAMN COURSE THEY’D HAVE OPPOSITE GODDAMN COLORS GODDAMNIT

why is Anti barefoot. just.... why

he’s gonna go slappin all over Jack’s floors

unless he has socks on to keep them lil feetsies warm

don’t want a cold demon boi with cold demon toesies

all of the frames from the glitches are either terrifying nightmare fuel or extremely derpy looking. there is no in-between.

fucking hell Robin just how long did this take to edit???

BLOOPERS

why doesn’t Anti have a cut on his neck? is this before Say Goodbye even happened? or can he heal from that?

what if it’s not Anti at all?

I already asked that earlier fuck

building off of earlier thoughts: what exactly do the children’s voices mean? are they Chase’s kids (it better fucking not be), or just a manifestation of Jack’s fears and he always hears when Anti’s around?

the whispers in this video were the same as the one’s from Stories Untold 4 so... we were seeing the nightmare he woke up from, then?

I hate whispering sounds apparently

not like... in an “oh no teh whisper are scawy DX” kinda way 

but i just.... mmmm nope, do not like

that better not be another fuckin auditory trigger, brain; you’ve made enough of those, we don’t need normal things like whispering to join them

SIGNE’S CINEMATOGRAPHY IS  👌 👌 👌 GODDAMN 

seriously without her helping out we wouldn’tve had NEARLY as amazing shots

...no offense Seán

but Signe is has an amazing eye for this stuff, you just worry about acting n shit, k?

i have rewatched the ending so many times now

WHY DOES .25 SPEED MAKE IT SO MUCH FUCKN CREEPIER JEEZ

THE HEAD THING = NOPE

Jack went from adorable giddy fanboy w/ Ryan Reynolds to absolute murder bean in a fuckin hurry

WHERE THE FUCK IS JACKIE? SERIOUSLY

Marvin/JJ/whoever the fuck is tryna wake up Jack can y’all hurry it up please

..but also don’t bc I love seeing freaky videos like this

so if we’re seeing Jack’s comatose nightmares, does that mean that Anti’s just a figment of his imagination

as in he’s never been real

will we ever get an expLANATION FOR MOTHERFUCKING OVERNIGHT WATCH

probably not

that’s the last time we saw Anti wasn’t it

damn

maybe Jackieboy Man hasn’t shown up bc he and Jack are one and the same

I am 1000004% ready for a JBM vs Anti showdown

or Marvin vs Anti too

magic cat man deserves more showtime gdi, he’s the oldest ego here and he’s barely had any attention compared to Grits Bits over here 

gringle bungle,,,,, gloat boat,,,,,, grin bin

fuck this is turning into that ASG post from a while ago-

SEAN IT IS 5 AM YOUR TIME GET OFF TUMBLR YOU CUCK

oh that got rid of the bullet points rip

it’s ok I fixed it

guess y’all kinda have an idea of how long I’ve been adding stuff to this now huh

hm I have an AP exam in.... 6 hours, cool

thanks Jack for choosing the day before it to dump the entirity of hell on us :D

no but really I missed this

IF THERE’S NOTHING ANTI-RELATED FOR LIKE 6N MONTHS AFTER THIS IM GOING TO DIE

YOU BETTER NOT KILL OFF ANYONE EITHER, SEAN

can I start referring to Robin as “accomplice cube” again?

plz

that was one of my proudest moments here

and it’s quite fitting for now

Why doesn’t Jack remember the egos?? or is that simply his form of fuckery for us, and it doesn’t actually tie in to this bizarre plot thing going on?

Signe better not start pretending to not know the egos too...... shes the last one i trust ok

[nerffighter]

             no you guys you guys                     you don’t understand how much this has been bugging me                          listen i haven’t caught up with legends yet bc i’m a laze so this is all prolly s1 au stuff but

                           okay so rip growing up hearing about the STAR Labs triumvirate - Crystal Frost ( I WILL HOLD ONTO THAT ALT. NAME TILL I DIE OKAY ), The Flash, and Vibe. and then okay so he’s training to be a Time Master and of course of course they’ve got a little more intel on the Trio’s heroics than the public does.

             they learn about what a danger Flash poses to the timeline, but how he’s proven to be relatively safe, so long as you try to avoid contact with him, you should be good. there’s a few extra timelines ( a term that most the time masters&co despise, but that’s not exactly the BEST image for describing such temporal anomalies, they’re more like time...sects... but whatever Flash, go ahead, coin ‘timeline’ ) but he seemed to understand that time isn’t something so blasé-ly messed with. plus he liked to leave fun easter eggs for future time travellers to recognize, which was both fun and helpful with which parts of history/future they should intervene with or not.

        Crystal Frost was a force to be reckoned with, like she didn’t have any temporal based powers, but there’s a theory floating around amongst cadets (do they do cadets? is that how the time master system works???? idk) but whatever there’s a theory roaming around that some time fuckery happened/will happen/is happening that makes her the source of all the weird comparisons between women and storms/snow/blizzards/etc. in literature and art across the world???? like who knows, maybe The Flash had something to do with it, god help them if it was anyone else. she’s just cool, that pun lives on forever, but she was just so versatile with her powers, she understood them down to a biological level, which is what made her so powerful. she’s a doctor first, her mind was her best weapon. ( also have you SEEN the security footage where she breATHES STEAM???? AND ALTERS THE WEATHER??? LIKE??? HOW RAD????? ) plus!!! she’s credited for a lot of the beginning medical studies of metahumans to help treat people with powers in the future!!!!!

             but then there’s Vibe. his powers are nebulous and dangerous and very versatile to top it all off. first and foremost, his most powerful weapon in his arsenal - his visions. like, forget the fact that he could manipulate the vibrations of the multiverse, pop onto any earth he wanted, could detect, control, and manipulate vibrational waves - which included various forms of radio and other long distance forms of communication, so god help you once’s he’s figured out how to do THAT ( not that he did that very often, he mostly liked to do vocal impersonations, there’s a few audio recordings of him doing it too ) - he could vibrate things down to the atomic level, heating and cooling objects at will, could fuCKING LEVITATE THANKS SOUND INTERFERENCE, or just straight up kill u on the spot by producing a sonic blast so loud it’d just straight up blow you up, vibrate to let objects pass through him, so nice try if you wanna shoot him - no. the most powerful power at his disposal, was his vibes. he had access to every single moment in any timeline on any earth. who knows? he could be watching us right now???? ( this became a bit of a joke among the cadets again, things would randomly fall over in their barracks/dorms/whatever and they just throw their hands up and ‘thaNKS VIBE’. (( one of them was SURE that a few of her pillows fell off her bed, and when she’d inevitably ‘THANKS VIBE’ but was too tired to grab them, that they had somehow ended up back on her bed when she turned back around. but there’s no real way to prove if this was an actual Vibe-Sighting or not.)) the head officers and other Time Masters are not amused. ) yet somehow history manages to muddle up cisco’s personality, if only because Vibe wasn’t exactly the most consistent of heroes. he’d constantly undersell himself during interviews, jokingly of course, ( to no one’s surprise, a lot of Vibe’s interview footage didn’t really make it, he was about impossible to catch on camera, most reliable interviews were the ones penned by Central City Picture News, the largest of these conducted by one Iris West-Allen ) but then interviews with both Flash and Frost would sing his praises. some of his jokes during battle - recorded on various forms of social media and archived of course - would sometimes come off a bit morbid, or make references to pop culture that was lost to time and made 0 contextual sense in the future.

                         so students in the Time Master program just sorta - vaguely terrified of an accidental meeting with Vibe, the man with a slightly morbid, self deprecating humor, with god-like powers and could literally see any point in time there ever was or ever will be. but of course, the chances of meeting this temporal giant is slim to none. the multiverse was infinite, after all.

          WRONG, for one Rip Hunter. so he’s making a cautious trip to 2026 in Central City for something or another, and ugh, having to deal with these hooligans is giving him a migraine, what’s a healthy way to deal with migraines? coffee of course. so he’s in line in jitters totally dressed for the times for once, and he’s waiting PATIENTLY goddamn it, and someone cuts him in line, and he scowls and just ‘excuse m e’, and the person turns around, and who is it but one cisco ramon, with a candy cane ( it’s near christmas ) in his mouth and wearing a t-shirt that looks like the sights from the x-wings in star wars, ( 33 and still wearing shit like this, i hate my son so much ) and rip just squints at him, because excuse you young sir, i’m waiting in line, and cisco nearly chokes on his candy and lauGHS???? ‘j e s u s, Rip, you freaked me out!’ and suddenly Rip is on edge j ust  ‘have... we met before????’ and hand hovering near his cowboy styled photon revolver, whatever the hell that thing is, and cisco just makes a pump the breaks motion and ‘woah there cowboy, chill out you’re gonna freak people out. listen i’ll grab u ur fav and just -’ he places a hand on rip’s arm and suddenly freezes, and rip is suddenly aw a r e of how awkward this is, he’s just standing there, is he okay??? ( there’s a teeny part of his brain throwing up alarms, but he’s not 100% sure he believes it yet ) and cisco suddenly snaps out of it and there’s a craZY ASS GRIN ON HIS FACE AND ‘dios mio, THIS is it? this is you meeting me for the first time?’ rip is still ???????

                   and cisco has to make his order, and he surprisingly makes rip’s order perfectly, pays, and waves off rip’s weird mixture of gratitude, suspicion, and fear. they sit down. cisco sets down their drinks and ‘man, i thought it’d be cool, like the ship would just appear at S.T.A.R. or something and some temporal whatevers would just appear and we’d have to help you guys out. nope. it’s coffee.’ and rip slowly wraps his hands around his order and ‘listen, it’s obvious you know me, could you skip to the part where you introduce yourself?’ and rip is dreading all of this, this was supposed to be a simple in and out trip, and now he’s tied here because people KNOW him, that never ends well, especially in CENTRAL CITY, and the other guy smiles, drops his chin into his hands, elbows on the table. ‘i’m cisco ramon.’

               rip is thrown for a loop at first, but isn’t exactly shocked, cisco ramon is credited throughout history as a remarkable scientist, he’s made the impossible reality, honestly, there’s theories he was a time traveller himself among some of the skeptics. ( there’s a LOT of discussion about the ethics of such a theory in the scientific community. some people say that that theory was rooted entirely in the racist assumption that someone of his ethnicity and age couldn’t possibly create the things he did. some people cite that none of the practical and resourceful studies of the science that mr. ramon (( he should be dr. ramon, but in interviews, ramon always stoutly refused such a title. that honor goes to his best friend, dr. snow, another doctor that specialized in metahuman medicine, much like crystal frost. there’s a lot of theories surrounding their relationship as well. )) had pulled off weren’t to be properly studied and perfected till much later dates. ) honestly rip is surprised he didn’t recognize mr. ramon himself, but all the picture he’s seen of the man show cased a much elderly version of the man, full of wrinkles and wearing a coat and a silly patterned button up. but his smile was still the same. but then, mr. ramon leans in, that exact smile lighting up his face and eyes squinting with the force of his emotion and just. ‘and vibe.’

                        rip scoffs, lifts his coffee to his lips.

             ‘yeah. and i’m saint mary.’                   ‘no, i’m saint mary.’ parrots ramon back at him, in rip’s voice.

                           rip takes a spit take for the first time in his whole life.