#idk but we are like second class citizens in our own soil

[beameized]

Unpopular Opinion:

The automatic response of calling everyone who calls out China “racists” excuses the government of China’s incompetence, as well as its malicious actions in Asia. (Not pertaining to Covid-19 pandemic but China’s actions in general. The blatant debt traps, the 9 dash line that leads to attacks against other non-China boats who fish in areas that according to International law are rightful theirs, the control on certain areas by installing political parties that are loyal to China, the list could go on.)

So to say, before branding someone racist, context should be established because the use of the word “China” is quite ambiguous. If it were to mean “every single Chinese person ever” or “all of China’s citizens”, then it is indeed racist and/or xenophobic. If it were to mean China’s government and its supporters, then it may not be entirely unfounded.

When people say USA’s militant actions in the Middle East for the sake of controlling oil reserves has harmed many people and taken many lives, it does not mean all Americans are responsible for this. In this context, USA is meant to mean its government.

The same could be applied to China. China can be criticized without it being racist but context should first be established. Otherwise, if we just stop calling out China’s government for their bullshit, what will happen to those of us who suffer at this expense?

[janiedean]

Sine you are knowledgeable about history, I wanted to ask you is this accurate? /watch?v=guXBTgAxhIw

okay let’s watch it stay tuned

right this ended up being WAY FUCKING LONG so I’m just cutting it at the first wiki screenshot 

first: cramming 1400 years of islamic history in five minutes is kinda idiotic but nvm let’s go on especially if she used to hate history

god her voice is grating but nvm

‘western civilization is different from islam’ YEAAAAAAH TOO BAD THAT EARLY ISLAM AND WESTERN CIVILIZATION DURING THE MIDDLE AGES WERE CLOSELY TIED AND HAD A LARGE CULTURAL EXCHANGE AMONG WHICH THEY HANDED US, UH, THE DECIMAL NUMBERS AMONG THE REST

k let’s go on this is already gonna be painful

‘prophet mohammed started borrowing a lot from the old testament’ lady not to be that person but like islam, christianity and judaism all have the same roots because it’s different interpretations of the same mythology ie the old testament making it pass like it’s something special when you could say the same about christianity is fairly lulzy I mean ffs the virgin mary is the holiest of women according to islam are we srs

judaism and islam are similar because they have the same roots in the old testament ksjhgkjdshgsklkjg it’s a lot more complicated than what she’s saying oh god I’m at like five minutes and I already am facepalming all over

also because she doesn’t make sense because if the jews didn’t accept him and he turned against them and drove him out and he went there to get support how the hell he was powerful enough to send them away according to her own logic? (obv it was a lot more complicated than how she’s putting it)

‘convert or stay alive’ k the exact same thing that happened to jews in europe during the middle ages or the reinassance it’s not news whatsoever nor specific to islam as a religion but okaaay

also why is she spending five minutes explaining that other religions were considered second class citizens under islamic rule like wow exactly how every religion that’s not the main one is second class in a non-secular society same as it was in europe before the protestant/christian religion wars I mean she’s making it sound like it’s just islam guys it’s not

re the yellow star:

the wiki page is a lot longer but tldr: our amazing lovely western christian culture did the exact same thing. but I don’t see her mentioning it??? like??? okay but it doesn’t make them especially worse than us??

also idk if this person has ever read the old testament but like is she aware of how everyone not jewish is described in the old testament?? XDDD I mean again this idea that chosen religion = saved people and everyone else is second-class is ingrained in the mythology and you can like it or not but passing it as if it’s just islam is... lol no

also this is not *islamic history* it’s ‘some facts + how barbaric are the muslims when it’s stuff that every monotheistic semitic religion has in its holy book’

also LMAO THAT’S WHY THE CRUSADES HAPPENED HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAH

LMAO NO

THE CRUSADES WERE A LOT OF THINGS AMONG WHICH A POLITICAL OPERATION SANCTIONED BY THE POPE BECAUSE JERUSALEM BEING NOT CHRISTIAN WASN’T EXACTLY GOOD FOR THE ****HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE**** IF THIS PERSON THINKS THAT ONLY FAITH WAS BEHIND THE CRUSADES THEY’RE SO FAR OFF THE MARK LIKE LMAO I’M CRYING

I mean, without even going deep into it this is just the opening wiki paragraphs. OPENING:

OKAY SURE THAT WAS JUST ABOUT THE MUSLIMS CONQUERING JERUSALEM AND NOT ABOUT THE VERY COMPLICATED RELIGIOUS AND TERRITORIAL POLITICS OF EUROPE IN THE MIDDLE AGES NOR ABOUT THE RELATIONS WITH THE BYZANTINE EMPIRE -

never mind that.

blah blah blah blah blah k jerusalem blah blah blah blah man also the crusaders could not win against ‘islam’, maybe they couldn’t win against the muslims they fought which were not all of islam but honestly this is so simplicistic I wanna shoot myself I mean there’s the BOSNIAN crusade, the reconquista (which didn’t fail) is also counted as such, all christianization of northern europe IS CONSIDERED UNDER THAT BANNER but k sure it was just the muslims this person has no business saying anything but let’s go on

‘they went all the way to *central europe*’ k man I didn’t know germany and france were muslim or that poland was, that’d be eastern europe maybe and if she doesn’t even know that the most they got was getting to vienna where they *lost*... also again, it’s nothing new, the romans had the roman empire?? fighting to conquer new lands has happened since forever? like I’m still failing to see what makes islam any worse than about any other damned religion or empire in history according to her reasoning anyway

‘spain’ OH GOD she’s showing that she has no fucking clue of what she’s saying because the conquering of spain was centuries before the crusades like ffs the conquest of spain was in 711 AD and the crusades started from the 11th century onwards more or less like the islamic conquering of europe ie spain/sicily was years before the crusades how the fuck do you put that after you talked about the crusaders failing to get jerusalem back? dksjhgfjsdkghjsdjgdlks

also SHE MENTIONS VIENNA NOW LIKE SHE’S COMPLETELY OFF HER TIMELINE, THE VIENNA BATTLE WAS IN 1683 AND IT WAS YEARS AFTER THE RECONQUISTA OF SPAIN WAS OVER IN 1492 and like it stopped the OTTOMAN empire (not islamic, ottoman, because she doesn’t even know the fucking difference) from trying to get further into europe but guess what muslims had been driven out of spain and italy and most other places that weren’t eastern-european for years at that point like she’s mixing the years up so badly I’m embarrassed

also islam =/= THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE

............ man I absolutely have no force or strength to address all the reasons why the battle of vienna’s result had nothing to do with the industrial revolution which was a thing that had started in britain and britain sure as hell wasn’t the reason why that battle was one and more to do with the fact that the polish army was better than everyone else put together + the ottoman army which was fairly terribly assembled but like pls read the wiki article here and like

man I can 100% assure you that britain never was part of the holy roman empire like no

other than that, IT’S NOT FUCKING TRUE THAT THE CHRISTIANS THREW MUSLIMS OUT OF EUROPE COMPLETELY BECAUSE EASTERN EUROPE AND THE MIDDLE EAST STILL WERE UNDER OTTOMAN RULE UNTIL THE 19TH CENTURY, GREECE WAS TOO OR DID THIS IDIOT MISS THAT LORD BYRON DIED IN THE GREEK-OTTOMAN WAR nvm the whole part about greek independence being seen as a duty because THE CRADLE OF WESTERN CULTURE UNDER MUSLIM RULE but the great european powers weren’t exactly too big on raising shit with the ottoman empire for greece when no one gave a shit about greece which is the history of europe until now tbh -

yeah, right. and also according to this person the balkans are not in europe anymore, or the balkans do not exist, but then again do americans remember the balkan war from the end of the 20th century - right, never happened. LET’S MOVE ON.

god man I’m at 7.20 and it’s 16.37 idk how long I can go on here

the islamic empire ended in 1924 = THE *OTTOMAN* EMPIRE GOOD FUCKING GRIEF I CANNOT EVEN WITH THE FACT THAT SHE THINKS ALL ISLAM = THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE

never mind that it ended in 1923 not 1924

also it wasn’t ataturk who ended the ottoman empire all on his own, it was.....

LIKEEEEEE

IT’S 

MORE

COMPLICATED THAN THAT

let’s go on sigh

the whole thing about ataturk being jewish is like conspiracy but like guys of course someone makes a secular government in a place where until then there wasn’t and people will find someway to discredit him like come the fuck on

the islamic state is not the same as califfate or empire BUT NEVER MIND THAT THIS IS WHY YOU CAN’T PUT 1400 YEARS OF HISTORY IN TEN MINUTES

‘inserts millions of people killed by the *ottoman* empire*

OKAY.

'how many people knew this history in this room’ I suppose no one because who studies history of the ottoman empire in the US, but sure as hell I didn’t because 90% of what she says is complete garbage and it never happened but okay

‘WE IN AMERICA HAVE FAILED TO EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN ABOUT HISTORY’: I can hear it, because you totally failed to educate yourself too

‘we still have our WWII walking among us’ okay but you’re talking about islam which has nothing to do with WWII get your head of your ass woman

‘things that happened in the last century made islamists able to resurrect the califfate’ nvm that we’re talking about like TEN DIFFERENT NATIONS and isis isn’t like the ottoman empire, is the lady aware that the US are directly responsible for 90% of those things or what

given what she just said about saudi oil it’s 100% plain obvious that she’s not aware like ‘we were stupid enough to let them nationalize it’ WOW SAUDI RESOURCES ON SAUDI SOIL AND THEY COULDN’T EVEN DRILL IT FOR THEMSELVES LIKE AMERICAN IMPERIALISM AT ITS FINEST

and whose fault is it that khomeini came into power?

yeah well you guessed right also ‘khomeini in iran and THE OIL IN SAUDI ARABIA GAVE ISLAMICS MEANS TO GO BACK INTO POWER’ like okay because the muslim world is just iran and saudi arabia and no one else exists and -

god my brain is fucking hurting and I have like 6 minutes left or this idk if I can take it

............. this woman has no fucking clue of the splits in between muslim sects but never mind I have no patience for it either suffices you to know that the answer is NO

‘infidels can’t step foot in Mecca, not you, not me, not president Obama!!!’ well it’s their sacred city who even gives a damn I personally wouldn’t care to visit so why the hell should you?

‘we are filth!’ welcome to how you’re treated if you don’t belong to religion X in a place where X is the main religion and there’s no freedom of religion nor secularism I mean why does she make it sound as if it’s just muslims doing that *SHRUUUGGG*

isis is the same as the islamic empire = NO IT’S NOT but nvm she still doesn’t know the basic difference in between ottoman empire, regular islam and so on but whateveeeerrrr

and isis happened just thanks to US policy in the middle east but okay then

idk enough about the swearing on the q’ran thing but I mean lady in the UK in the 19th century atheists couldn’t be witnesses in trials because they were considered untrustworthy for not swearing on the bible or because it wasn’t considered valid AGAIN WHAT’S YOUR POINT

mohammed’s military tactics: I still fail to see what’s so different between that and about like every other military commander in existence 

‘this is how people made money, without working’ I want to shoot myself

about mohammed’s treaty: have you ever heard of the words trojan horse lady, because if you haven’t....

oh jesus USING THAT TO SAY ANYTHING SIGNED WITH IRAN MEANS NOTHING TO THEM DSGJDSLKGJSLG IRAN IS NOT 8TH CENTURY SAUDI ARABIA AND SDLKGJDLKSJGKLSDGJDLS NO LISTEN I CANNOT HONESTLY DEAL WITH THIS CRAP COME ON

also because again iran is the way it is because of US intervention but kkkkkk let’s like conveniently omit that

........ the whole part about arafat is like so simplicistic and so completely out of this world and not taking into account so many variants I just - guys. no. please. go read about the thing from more decent sources than this idiot but like..... no. the second intifada had way different reasons to exist than arafat just felt like it dslkgjdslkgsjl good lord

no okay listen I had to shut it off after that because I honestly can’t take this bullshit anymore, but if the above wasn’t obvious, tldr: this video is 10% actual facts drowned in 90% complete bullshit, she doesn’t know how to even establish a timeline, the industrial revolution thing is completely bonkers, she doesn’t know what the fuck she’s talking about and she doesn’t even know that in the middle ages contact with the muslim/islamic culture was fundamental to the development of european culture/literature/thought because without the muslims philosophers/thinkers we wouldn’t have the treatises upon which fucking WESTERN MONKS STUDIED and thomas aquinas wouldn’t have been able to do a thing if not for the commentaries on aristotle from muslim thinkers, that the cultural mixing led us to adopt fundamental things ie mathematics wouldn’t exist without the so-called ARABIAN NUMBERS which reached europe because the muslims got to india and then got to europe and that’s just like the first thing coming into mind??? like you cannot just delete centuries of profitable cultural exchange among the rest like this, because it’s a lot more fucking complicated than she thinks it is, and for that matter women under early islam were better off than they were before in the same area and better off than some women in europe for that matter, and like........ good lord I personally have a healthy dislike for any religion but this is completely fucking bollocks.

like my issue with islam nowadays is that it’s the only large/huge religion in the planet that has not undergone the secularism treatment and I think theocracies need to die regardless of which religion is ruling, but assuming that historically islam was any worse than like, everyone else who came before or after especially when we’re bringing in the crusades fought by people under the banner of the HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE is like, preposterous, ahistorical, dumb af and completely missing the point, never mind that if you think islam is purposefully stealing from the old testament in order to make itself more palatable to jews/christians then also christianity is doing the exact same thing because both christianity and islam are interpretations of the old testament/of the same mythology (because sorry guys the fact that we’re in western culture and we’re all christian blah blah doesn’t make it any less of a mythology, if you believe it then it’s a religion but if you don’t, that’s what it is objectively) and it’s really fucking hypocritical.

even more tldr: please don’t take these videos for granted or as any decent sources because they’re not.