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illfoandillfie · 4 years ago

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ok sorry but how many people do yall think rog has ever slept with cos i’m guessing four figures no lie

okay, i don’t normally respond to messages like this because, frankly, i dont really feel like its my place to speculate on roger’s sex life. Theres a difference between writing a fiction story with a character named after and inspired by him and discussing his actual personal life which i have no real knowledge about. What he gets up to in his free time is between him and the women he does it with. but i didn’t really feel able to ignore this one. please don’t take this as me telling you off or shutting you down or anything like that. If you want to speculate about roger’s body count thats up to you, go nuts with it. and i love when you guys message me and I don’t want to discourage you from feeling like you can talk to me or just send me your random thoughts or whatever about any subject. But I feel like I need to address why I disagree with this sentiment. Also so I can ask ya’ll to please stop asking me questions like this.

So firstly, just to get this out of the way. 1000 is a lot. even 100 is a lot. I think if rog had slept with 1000+ people he’d have a least a few illegitimate kids and probably would have been checked into rehab for sex addiction (not to mention STIs and such because lbr people in the 70s specifically probs werent the most careful especially if drugs were involved). I mean even if we were going to say Rog got lucky with a different woman after every show we wouldn’t reach 1000. According to google, Queen played around 700 shows in their entire career. If we add shows played by The Cross thats only another 67 odd shows (according to wikipedia).

now, i think there are 3 things that contribute to this idea of roger as especially promiscuous. 1. His attitude/demeanour/general way he sells himself. 2. the generally held conceptions about rock stars and rock star behaviour. and 3. what i’m going to call fandom dumbassery (but i mean that with a lot of love)

So lets start with the man himself. Roger Taylor is loud and opinionated and not particularly humble. He knows he’s talented and attractive though for at least some time he was a little self-conscious about how feminine he looked. He’s always up for a laugh, likes to party and has admitted to enjoying his drink and his women. He’s had kids with two different women, who’s relationships “overlapped”, and is currently married to a third. At least that’s the perception we can gleam from his interviews, behind the scenes videos, and other public appearances.

It’s easy to see how that image leads to accusations of being a womaniser and a cheater and basically a bit of a slut lmao. But here’s the thing. I think Roger, in part, markets himself that way. The thing is, if you look at his solo songs and the relationships he currently has with his kids and their mothers, and things other people have said about him/his relationships over the years, I think it’s fair to say he also has a bit of a romantic streak maybe? idk if thats the best way of describing it...he’s self confessed to not being a fan of marriage and the like but he’s not opposed to writing and singing love songs and seems to believe in ~love~ as a concept/power. He certainly cares deeply for those closest to him. Whether or not that translates to an agreement with monogamy I can’t say for certain. It’s hard to draw conclusions here because a lot of what we know of his personal life was fed to us through magazines and news paper gossip column articles and they were never looking for the truth, they were looking for scandal and sensationalism.

For instance the whole thing with the overlapping relationships. I think most people who have read anything about roger and dom and debbie realise that it’s not as cut and dry as “he was cheating with debbie and left dom for her” even though that was the story being sold by the press at the time. The reality (or at least the version closer to reality since obviously no one outside of them and whoever they were closest with knows all the nitty gritty details) is that rog and dom had already split when they got married. it was a marriage of convenience to make sure her and the kids would be looked after financially etc even after he’d moved out. So while it looked to the public like he married one chick and 30 odd days later was spotted with another, there really wasn’t anything untoward happening. I’m not saying he never had casual hookups or one night stands and i’m not saying he never cheated, but I do think some of it’s been exaggerated, whether by him to encourage the rock star perception or by newspaper/magazine articles.

Now, obviously, we have stories of rog, particularly in the late 60s and into the 70s, being with multiple women. There’s that bit in the Interview with a Queen “Groupie” (which is a fantastic read and i defs recommend checking it out if you havent already) where she talks about roger being a chick magnet and says that, at the time, it was pretty common to sleep about. But, she also says she didnt notice him doing it more or less than anyone else and seemed to mostly be with Jo (his girlfriend at the time). This is the same Jo that got a mention in the Queen in 3D book (”i think we all had the feeling that these two were together for life, but it was not to be”). Conversely, we have that quote (which i cannot find rn but i’ll link it when i do) about roger sometimes having one girl upstairs while another waited in the garage for them to be finished. I think it was about Rog in the mid-late 60s in Truro but whatever. Obviously he wasn’t anywhere near celibate and it’s likely was sleeping with people outside of his relationship(s). But one has to assume that as he got older those kinds of antics stopped happening, at least as frequently.

There is one potential story that I remember reading somewhere along the way about Roger cheating on Debbie while she was pregnant. But, take that with a grain of salt because I can’t find the article again and also I think it was from like The Sun or something equally as rubbish. The press was notoriously always printing mean shit about the boys and that might have been another thing they published to create scandal. Even so, if we assume it’s legit that is still only 1 story. Not to throw him under the bus but Brian is the one with multiple confirmed affairs, who literally wrote songs about it all. So why is Roger the one with sleazy reputation?

This is where my second and third points come in. There is a pervasive idea about what it means to be a rock star. The whole trashing hotel rooms, sleeping with groupies, passing out drunk every night thing. And I’m sure that Queen was like that to an extent. I think it’s pretty common knowledge that all of them got up to shit on the road. Between innuendo laden interviews and songs, videos and accounts of their parties, stories CT has put online, and other stories like the one of Roger bringing out lines of coke as dessert when he was having dinner with motley crue. They definitely embraced the rock and roll lifestyle. And I think with Roger’s personality being what it is, it’s easy to link him to those traditional rock star tropes and say it was all true all the time. I also think Roger has done nothing to counter those beliefs. He’s been open about how he wanted to be a rock star since the minute he picked up a guitar, he’s labelled himself as a great lay in magazines, he’s joked about girls pulling their tits out over dinner in interviews (though he said he didnt take her home), he’s written songs like One Night Stand and Dirty Mind and Airheads which explicitly mention his preference for women and alcohol. I think it’s fair to say he’s kind of encouraged that view of himself. Whether it was just a side effect of being part of such a well known band and having such a boisterous demeanour/personality, or whether it was intentional as a version of promotion i don’t know. maybe a mix of them? I mean I’m sure it didn’t hurt sales and stuff. it’s the whole guys want to be him, girls want to be with him thing, right? Maybe that’s just me being cynical though lmao.

Anyway, the fandom brain has taken all of that and compressed it into memes and jokes about rog being the band slut. Which i’m not complaining about, lord knows i’ve made the same jokes and reblogged the same posts and used those tropes in my fics. They’re funny and lend themselves to interesting fic concepts. Plus, i think roger is the sort of person who would probably laugh about most of it. But it’s an idea that keeps feeding into itself through fandom, perpetuating what is probably a misguided view of his personal life.

Again, I am sure he’s had his fair share of fun and I’m not trying to make out that he was always perfect or whatever, but I don’t think he’s been with as many women as the popular discourse would imply and I certainly don’t think he’s in the 4 digit numbers.

#i7558vjvug #please god dont let this start anything #im just here to write smut and have a good time

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illfoandillfie · 4 years ago

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oh no i’m so so sorry i didn’t mean anything by that question , didn’t mean to offend you or roger im sorry i thought it would be a fun question and maybe more based on the characters we write about him. i see that was in appropriate now i’m sorry. :|

don’t apologise and please don’t feel bad about the question! It wasn’t my intention to make out like you were bad for asking and i wasn’t trying to be the fun police. I can defs see why people would want to have that discussion and it’s not like i’ve never wondered about it myself. i just prefer not to talk about that kind of thing in a public space. (and as an aside, maybe its just projecting or something, but i feel like rog would be more amused than offended that these kinds of things were being discussed).

But, if we’re talking about rog in the fics i’ve written 🤔🤔🤔

it’s not something i really put a lot of thought into tbh. I always write with the assumption that he’s been with others (just a personal preference for not writing any sort of virgin stuff) but, unless exes are specifically mentioned, it’s just a general feeling rather than specific numbers.

For instance, roger in the curtains series. It’s set at an unspecified point of the 70s but i’d probably put it in the earlier half of the decade since it’s all happening around uni. in the fic rog is obviously uber confident in regards to approaching reader so it’s likely he’s been with multiple other women, probably dated a couple but mostly just casual hookups or fwb type situations. I think that’s reinforced by the kind of immature way he handles the whole conflict situation in that series.

On the flip side of that we have professor rog in the ADKoE series. he’s based off of roger as he appeared in his 40s but i don’t think he has the same history as real life rog did at that time. I’ve mentioned in the fic that he was married and had kids and it’s implied they got divorced since he’s always calling her his ex wife but, because it’s an AU set in the present day and the time line has been adjusted to match, I think the attitude about divorced couples and kids with divorced parents would be very different from roger and dominique’s situation where they got married at the end of their relationship specifically to benefit their children. In the timeline of ADKoE rog was in his 20s and in Queen during the 90s. I haven’t set a specific date for when he and his ex wife originally met/got married but his kids are teens/tweens so had to have been born around the 2009-2012 period (does that check out? maths is not my strong suit sjfkshksjld). I also think they probably split while the kids were fairly young since I wasn’t intending on writing moody teenagers who are angry at their dad for leaving or anything like that. I think it’s just normal for them by now.

So then professor roger’s history is probably something like, he dated a little in highschool but once he was at uni started to meet more people and go out more yada yada yada. being in a band probs helped him score a little more often but queen in this universe was never as big as the real band and split after only recording one album so he probably didn’t have LOTS of opportunities to pick up groupies or whatever. Certainly they wouldn’t have toured as much but he did probably date a little in the years the band was active (maybe a serious gf and a couple of flings on the side or something stupid like that? idk, like i said, it’s not really something i plan out). It isn’t set in stone yet but I’m tempted to say he met his wife (who i suppose i will have to name eventually but i think im going to avoid actual names like dominique or debbie and i dont think his kids will have the same names as any of rogers rl children) after he went back to uni once the band had split. he then spent 10 odd years working towards becoming a professor and then a few more after that actually teaching and during that time got married, had kids, got divorced. post divorce i think he probably kept to himself for a little while. Maybe went out on a blind date or two, maybe a friend set him up. Of course, there’s the potential for a midlife crisis type mental break which could have included trying to recapture his youth by sleeping around a bit, probably right after the divorce. But i think by the time we meet him in the fic he’s settled again, and is more focused on being a good dad even if he’s not living with his kids, than he is on dating. It is however possible that he has a bdsm club/munch thing that he goes to every now and again just to have some fun and maybe see some other people he knows in that community. Maybe he sometimes goes home with someone there?? idk the idea literally just occurred to me as i was typing lmao

Of course, the difference between these two fics is that one has been completed for a while and one is still very much In Progress so ADKoE is going to change and evolve as i work on it and think about it and more solidly figure out the timeline.

#im sorry if its not as definite or specific as you were hoping for #but thats what i can offer you #if you have another fic you're interested in asking about let me know #but i cant promise anything more than a vague response like these lmao #i7558vjvug

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