#i've also seen a few people claiming that ''neteyam'' means ''not the end'' or something along those lines and sorry but no it doesn't lol
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Name translation doesnāt usually work that way, hence why regardless of what it means in its original language, we in English still call Jake āJakeā and notĀ āHeelgrabberā.Ā Moreover, as far as we know none of the canon Naāvi names really haveĀ āmeaningsā anyways; they're just nice-sounding collections of syllables.
The phraseĀ āheel-grabberā would translate to something like tsunƤ niƤyu, but it would be very strange to use that as a name.
If Jake were to get a truly na'vi name, not just a transliteration of his English name, what would you translate it as? Would it be a lƬ'fya translation of 'Jacob' or would it be a whole new name or would it be something else?
I'm not entirely sure what you mean. To do something other than a transliteration of his English name would just be to give him a brand-new entirely separate name, which I don't really feel is necessary.
The canon Na'vi transliteration for Jake is Tsyeyk (J is a very tricky sound to emulate in Na'vi phonology). "Jacob" could hypothetically be Tsyeykop or Tsyeykap.
We wouldn't be able to know his full name in the Na'vi format without knowing his father's first name, which we of course have no info on. For now as far as we can get would be:
Tsyeyk te Suli [father's name]'itan
I don't think he actually goes by that though; as far as we can tell he's still just known as Jake Sully/Tsyeyk Suli.
Interestingly, when Tonowari greets Neytiri by her full name he still addresses her as Tskaha, not Suli, which implies to me that Na'vi probably keep whatever family name they are born with throughout their whole lives regardless of marital status. I assume this happens to apply to name formats too, thus Jake keeping his human format despite otherwise fully integrating into Na'vi culture.
#on that note if you ever see a source claiming that ''[insert Na'vi name] means [insert word or phrase (esp. if it's a long phrase)]''#take it with a MASSIVE grain of salt lol#for example: no ''palulukan'' does not mean ''dry mouthĀ bringer of fear'' it's just a word#''omatikaya'' does not mean ''blue flute clan'' either#if you want you can explain that one by assuming that that specific type of flute is called an ''omatik'' or something#in which case ok sure you could see how ''omatik aean'' could evolve intoĀ something like ''omatikaya''#but that is 100% sheer speculation; ''omatik'' is not a canon word#''seze'' does not mean ''blue flower'' either unless there's a specific species of blue flowers called 'seze' that we just haven't heard of#i've also seen a few people claiming that ''neteyam'' means ''not the end'' or something along those lines and sorry but no it doesn't lol#doesn't sound anything remotely like any of the words in that phrase (ke lu tƬ'i'a)#somebody pulled that ''fact'' out their rear for feels; it has no basis in canon whatsoever#tl;dr like I said: g r a i n Ā o f Ā s a l t lol#the only exception I can think of atm isĀ toruk which is indeed very literally ''last-shadow''
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Can I ask what it is about this fandom you find unfriendly? I've been feeling the same a little and I've been feeling alone in this.
Long winded rant, hold onto your buttcheeks.
Iām going to put this out there for anyone who feels afraid to say it, and thatās only because this particular fandom is the ONLY fandom Iāve ever experienced this with. Iām a big fan of marvel and dc, sci-fi and fantasy, I show dogs, I train dogs, I make leather goods, and those are all cutthroat communities with their own problems but Iāve never felt uncomfortable in any of those the way I am in this one,
So here goes; I hope this helps some of the people like me, who really love Avatar, but donāt like the fandom environment.
I think the biggest problem is with the NeteyamxOC pairing niche- which seems to be the biggest subcategory in the fandom.
Iāve seen in the comments sections of several Instagram and tumblr posts(Neteyam pictured or written with ocās, mostly) where a bunch of mean-girl antagonist harpies will emotionally body each other and the OP and claim Neteyam as if no one else has a right to pair an OC with them?
UM EW? SO WEIRD AND CULTY. thank god none of that happened on any of my posts or I wouldāve had to slam my head in a door.
then there are the purists, who reprimand you if you change the traits of any of their favorite characters or portray them in a way they donāt approve of- this has happened to me several times, which, fair, I suppose. I did something heinous with a character in my story(he gets a redemption arc later but thatās not the point. I should be able to write anything I want, and while I value free speech, itās like? Why are you getting so mad? Heās a fictional character, just DNR my fic and move on to something you like better, itās not that serious)
Thereās also people reposting artwork that I spent a lot of money on and not crediting the artists, but I feel worse for the artists because you can have all the money in the world but you will never get your time back, and I feel like itās fucked up that they arenāt at least getting the recognition they deserve on those posts that these stupid poopybutthole assdicks are making.
That could go for any fandom, but I think itās worth mentioning.
Lastly, both my direct and indirect interactions with a select few people who are VERY prominent in the community have justā¦ left a slightly bad taste in my mouthā¦? Like nothing explicitly bad happened and if you ask all three of them they will probably go āoh no, me and that person donāt have a problem!ā But justā¦ if those three incidents were translated into equivalent in person interactions, I wouldāve felt extremely bullied. You could call that me being sensitive, or a number of other things, but thatās just plain how I feel.
Itās a shame because I looooove love love all the fics people write in every aspect and pairing of the fandom, and can recommend you so many amazing fics that were written so much better than mine by such fucking nice and pleasant and humble people tbh, I legit would lick the bottom of their shoes if they asked me politely enough
Itās just those few hundred OTHER people that have made this a bad experience for meš¤£
So there that is, this place and some of the hostile NPCs that inhabit it make me feel like I either need to curl into a fetal position to mourn the loss of common sense on the internet, or step into a rage room and never come out,
And the more I think about it, the more I feel like stepping away is a good decision for me.
Maybe when I come back peopleās buttholes will have loosened up and I can walk around in the bountiful fields of Avatar/NeteyamxOC fanfiction again like a floppy golden retriever puppy without having to look over my shoulder for a poacher with a sledgehammer, but until THAT day,
(But not before Iāve made my last 2-3 posts by the end of the week)
Iām peacing out, buh-byešš
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