#i've also seen a few people claiming that ''neteyam'' means ''not the end'' or something along those lines and sorry but no it doesn't lol
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nattikay Ā· 2 years ago
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Name translation doesnā€™t usually work that way, hence why regardless of what it means in its original language, we in English still call Jake ā€œJakeā€ and notĀ ā€œHeelgrabberā€.Ā Moreover, as far as we know none of the canon Naā€™vi names really haveĀ ā€œmeaningsā€ anyways; they're just nice-sounding collections of syllables.
The phraseĀ ā€œheel-grabberā€ would translate to something like tsunƤ niƤyu, but it would be very strange to use that as a name.
If Jake were to get a truly na'vi name, not just a transliteration of his English name, what would you translate it as? Would it be a lƬ'fya translation of 'Jacob' or would it be a whole new name or would it be something else?
I'm not entirely sure what you mean. To do something other than a transliteration of his English name would just be to give him a brand-new entirely separate name, which I don't really feel is necessary.
The canon Na'vi transliteration for Jake is Tsyeyk (J is a very tricky sound to emulate in Na'vi phonology). "Jacob" could hypothetically be Tsyeykop or Tsyeykap.
We wouldn't be able to know his full name in the Na'vi format without knowing his father's first name, which we of course have no info on. For now as far as we can get would be:
Tsyeyk te Suli [father's name]'itan
I don't think he actually goes by that though; as far as we can tell he's still just known as Jake Sully/Tsyeyk Suli.
Interestingly, when Tonowari greets Neytiri by her full name he still addresses her as Tskaha, not Suli, which implies to me that Na'vi probably keep whatever family name they are born with throughout their whole lives regardless of marital status. I assume this happens to apply to name formats too, thus Jake keeping his human format despite otherwise fully integrating into Na'vi culture.
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thewingedswine Ā· 1 year ago
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Can I ask what it is about this fandom you find unfriendly? I've been feeling the same a little and I've been feeling alone in this.
Long winded rant, hold onto your buttcheeks.
Iā€™m going to put this out there for anyone who feels afraid to say it, and thatā€™s only because this particular fandom is the ONLY fandom Iā€™ve ever experienced this with. Iā€™m a big fan of marvel and dc, sci-fi and fantasy, I show dogs, I train dogs, I make leather goods, and those are all cutthroat communities with their own problems but Iā€™ve never felt uncomfortable in any of those the way I am in this one,
So here goes; I hope this helps some of the people like me, who really love Avatar, but donā€™t like the fandom environment.
I think the biggest problem is with the NeteyamxOC pairing niche- which seems to be the biggest subcategory in the fandom.
Iā€™ve seen in the comments sections of several Instagram and tumblr posts(Neteyam pictured or written with ocā€™s, mostly) where a bunch of mean-girl antagonist harpies will emotionally body each other and the OP and claim Neteyam as if no one else has a right to pair an OC with them?
UM EW? SO WEIRD AND CULTY. thank god none of that happened on any of my posts or I wouldā€™ve had to slam my head in a door.
then there are the purists, who reprimand you if you change the traits of any of their favorite characters or portray them in a way they donā€™t approve of- this has happened to me several times, which, fair, I suppose. I did something heinous with a character in my story(he gets a redemption arc later but thatā€™s not the point. I should be able to write anything I want, and while I value free speech, itā€™s like? Why are you getting so mad? Heā€™s a fictional character, just DNR my fic and move on to something you like better, itā€™s not that serious)
Thereā€™s also people reposting artwork that I spent a lot of money on and not crediting the artists, but I feel worse for the artists because you can have all the money in the world but you will never get your time back, and I feel like itā€™s fucked up that they arenā€™t at least getting the recognition they deserve on those posts that these stupid poopybutthole assdicks are making.
That could go for any fandom, but I think itā€™s worth mentioning.
Lastly, both my direct and indirect interactions with a select few people who are VERY prominent in the community have justā€¦ left a slightly bad taste in my mouthā€¦? Like nothing explicitly bad happened and if you ask all three of them they will probably go ā€œoh no, me and that person donā€™t have a problem!ā€ But justā€¦ if those three incidents were translated into equivalent in person interactions, I wouldā€™ve felt extremely bullied. You could call that me being sensitive, or a number of other things, but thatā€™s just plain how I feel.
Itā€™s a shame because I looooove love love all the fics people write in every aspect and pairing of the fandom, and can recommend you so many amazing fics that were written so much better than mine by such fucking nice and pleasant and humble people tbh, I legit would lick the bottom of their shoes if they asked me politely enough
Itā€™s just those few hundred OTHER people that have made this a bad experience for mešŸ¤£
So there that is, this place and some of the hostile NPCs that inhabit it make me feel like I either need to curl into a fetal position to mourn the loss of common sense on the internet, or step into a rage room and never come out,
And the more I think about it, the more I feel like stepping away is a good decision for me.
Maybe when I come back peopleā€™s buttholes will have loosened up and I can walk around in the bountiful fields of Avatar/NeteyamxOC fanfiction again like a floppy golden retriever puppy without having to look over my shoulder for a poacher with a sledgehammer, but until THAT day,
(But not before Iā€™ve made my last 2-3 posts by the end of the week)
Iā€™m peacing out, buh-byešŸ˜‚šŸ’•
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