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feysandfeels · 8 months ago

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I'd love to know how Xaden justifies staying up guarding Violet while she recovers form *checks notes* poisoning Jack with Oranges... which like, btw, go off bestie, excellent tactic. 10/10 KILL THAT MOTHERFUCKER

oh wait no, he survived.

Just so we are on the same page I am against all the violence this school allows except when it comes to Violet killing Jack. In that case I will literally turn a blind eye and hand my girl the gun. Do what you must babygirl.

And now he is training her, which we all know is PEAK slut behaviour.

Bro you even gave her a collection of knives, my man you are so whipped! Like bffr.

Okayy so Dain is being a cunt... get a fucking grip dude.

Xaden kisses like a man on death row. Like that kiss when the gryffins are attacking? MMMMM YES !!! ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY.

oh and they can speak mind to mind... I'm sorry but like... the jokes are writing themselves at this point jajajajaja

Tairn is such a babygirl to give her a saddle... I honestly thought they were all riding with a saddle which is why I was like ???? why is she falling ????? and to be fair riding bareback is not that hard... you just need stronger legs and abs (lol I almost wrote lebs)

XADEN MADE IT FOR HER??? AND HE ALSO GAVE HER KNIVES?????? FUCK ME THAT'S PEAK ROMANCE!!!

tbf Dain actually has made it abundantly clear he only cares about Violet safety.

Oh I swear to god if Jack kills Liam I will END A MOTHERFUCKER IN A WAY THERE WILL BE BALLADS WRITTEN ABOUT MY RAGE.

Oh shit she's using her time stopping power. daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn DO IT!!! SAVE LIAM!!!!!! I mean everyone will notice but like who gives a fuck it's Liam's live!

SHE FRIED HIM!!!! *SCREAMS* WITH LIGHTING *SCREAMS MORE*

FEMINISM IS ALIVE AND WELL AND GO OFF BABYGIRL. YOU ARE NOT A KILLER BECAUSE HE WAS NOT A MAN.

but the fact that she is lighting is very Mare Barrow coded.... she feels very Mare Barrow and partly Feyre coded... like with a Bella Swan base flavour.

Dain getting upset that Violet revealed his dragon power... READ THE ROOM I AM FUCKING BEGGING SHE IS HAVING A PANIC ATTACK BECAUSE SHE JUST KILLED A PIG!!!!

PEAK ROMANCE IS COMFORTING THE GIRL AFTER SHE JUST HAD HER FIRST KILL AND SHE DOESN'T WANT TO BE SEEN AS A WEAPON AND SHE DIDN'T WANT TO KILL, WHILE ALSO REMINDING HER THAT SHE IS HER OWN PERSON AND SHE DECIDES HOW THIS WILL BUILD HER. (if you truly do not see the parallels with other characters.. like you are truly just turning a blind eye)

Will give it to the book but i gotta love how you can tell Xaden is a child of conflict.

You are the weapon (romantically)

Honestly Xaden is such a no bs character like he is very "own up to your own shit" and yes.

If Violet were my friend she would not be wallowing so much in her guilt...like babygirl we are opening a bottle of champagne

Xaden is in her room to check up and her and I hope they fuck :)

Do y'all remember in Inside Out the machine of imaginary boyfriends that creatd boyfriends that said stuff like "I would die for Riley"? Xaden is like that except for YA/New Adult Post Rhysand book boyfriends.

AYYYYYY HE SAID IT HE SAID IT, HE JUST SAID "I CAN'T SEEM TO STAY AWAY" BINGO

Not to be unsympathetic but I think if Violet fucked Xaden she wouldn't be so upset about the whole J*ck thing. Looooool there she goes saying "gods i want him to touch me to wash this day away." Girl just do it.

yesss he is close enough that she can feel his heat. YAAAAAAAAASSSSSS GET CLOSER!!! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

Hitting you, Xaden, is the last WE want to do. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKK

okay they are kissing :) please fuck :)

UFFFFF he just did the jealousy "fuck no" when she suggested someone else. THIS IS THE GOOD STUFF!!! when I say that I appreciate a bit of jealousy this is what I mean. Fuck yeah

"Because I only want you Xaden" YES GIRL WE KNOW.

He is a certified ass man. Oh what a day to be alive.

"he is mine or maybe I'm his" and me just scooching here, making myself comfy.

Ohhhhhhhhh he did the "does this feel like I don't want you." He is going through the "I can barely think when you are around". When I say what a feast I mean this scene. Homegirl really went through the classics of book boyfriends, and made him say every single sentence... and it is a win for me!

I too want to hear Xaden say my name.

dudeeee she did the "so kiss me"

I need a few moments to compose myself.

Once again i think irl men need to start reading more to be better at dirty talk. Like I think with a bit of critical thought they can find some gems in these books.

men who say "you're going to be the death of me" while in the throes will see the pearly gates.

well okay now... fucking against the window... even with the curtains close... that is dangerous. So shift, back to the wall, to the bed, on the desk, we're good.

ohhhhhh they are power fucking.

****y so good he lost control. If he could his roar would have brought a mountain down... or you know whatever happens when Rhys fucks.

107 lashes?! nooooo nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... did he receive the lashes so they wouldn't? FUCK NO. I'm going to cry. He chose the chance of death over the certainty.. just so he could try save them?

(to be fair I still think if the current government would have wanted a better thing or themselves they would have straight up killed them all otherwise they will always be looking over their shoulders because one day these kids will have dragons and a vengeance...and honestly.. go off kids)

Xaden when he makes his relationship public with Violet be like

I am not immune to Xaden saying that he thought Violet could channel lighting from their first kiss. I am not immune to that and I am in fact giggling.

Honestly I too would be hesitant to work with the teacher that straight up killed a mind reading student.

ohhhhh her father left her a cryptic note ohhhhhhhhhh. In the book of corrupt powers ooooooohhhh what could it beeeeee???

Xaden saying "don't fall for me" is like... bestie how can you say that when YOU YOURSELF XADEN are already in love??? I see your lies

Yeah no, I'm with Violet, he is already in as deep as she is.

Honestly good for her for standing her ground against his fuckboy ways (even though I know know know he is already in deep and must be doing this to protect her)

Xaden chokes on his food because he was taunting Violet and then she taunted back. YEAH TWO CAN PLAY THIS GAME, WE WOMEN ARE EVEN BETTER AT THIS GAME.

I do wonder what is the point of this book, beyond Violet's first year, because I'm already 20 days away from graduation... and I still have like 8 hours to go and I'm like ??? okay but ??????

BRENNAN IN MY HEART OF HEARTS YOU ARE NOT DEAD.

oh lol they are "using the sparring practices to relieve some tension" yes... because that's not... like... that's a recipe for disaster.. trust me this is coming from someone that used her rehearsals to let out all tension and explorations with her costar... like we did that and it..like hmmm.. better decisions could have been made.

GIRL WHAT ARE YOU DOING AGAIN IN THAT FUCKING BRIDGE OF DEAD, GET YOUR ASS BACK DOWN NOW!

of course he wanted her from the second he saw her

"I don't deserve you but I think I'm going to keep you all the same" God he ate with that one, why lie.

so to Rhysand's bringing down mountains we have Violet's thunder storm LOOOOOOOL yeah girl you're going to have to get that under control... like are they going to sleep like that? oh wait no, they are going to keep at it... go ahead. As you were.

Every single time there is "don't worry about me I'll be safe" scene in the middle of a we're being attacked, with a quick passionate kiss, followed by a "you'll be the death of me"? Like? what am I to do? not like it? not fall harder for the dude?? nooo

Rihannon enough, we're being attacked, stop it! yes she is wearing his jacket, we're being attacked. Enough. Bye.

oh wait they are not being attacked, it is war games? Ohhhhh for this shit they stopped Violet and Xaden? If it were me I would murder everyone.

Wait.. why are they saying goodbye? like isn't he going with the squads to play this little game?? like isn't this a mock attack so like wing leaders should be there??

oop she got girlfriend privileges jajajajajajajaja and is being taken beyond the wars just because Xaden wants to be with her. LOL

Ayyy there he goes Dain with his "she's safer with me" like dude, let it go. They want to fuck. My dude get on with the times. You have been left behind, my good fella.

These two are fighting like

Oh nooooooooow he realised that they are fucking. Hopefully he will let it go and now can be friends and he can stop being an asshole

I do think my girl went from crush to love hella fast.. like boo, take a second, let things develop organically.

"I've been yours for longer than you imagine" I MEAN DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH. WE'VE BEEN KNEW.

ohhh they interrupted them again....

ohhhhhhhh I fear this is when Violet finds out that Xaden has been working with the gryffins or smth

I KNEEEEEEEEEEW IT I FUCKING KNEW HE WAS WORKING WITH THEM I KNEW HE HAD ULTERIOR MOTIVES (not in approaching Violet but like in life) I KNEWWWWW IT! THE SUS VIBES NEVER LIE

But also lets be real, like how can a Gryffin stand against a warrior, like bffr. Stand aside or you will be burnt!

Ngl this isn’t a good look for Xaden rn, because yes I know morally he is probably right in siding with Gryffins and it will be revealed that the Dragon king is bad or smth… but like optics wise? My dude it does in fact look like your are romancing the general’s daughter to sway her to your side and leverage her position against her mother AND SISTER!

JAJAJAJAJAJA THIS HAS TO BE THE WORST ATTEMPT TO INFO DUMP I HAVE EVER SEEN JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA (Her explaining what this magic wilding people are)

To be fair Dain would dead ass rat Xaden out... like he is so Chaol coded he is 100% blindly following his leadership. BESTIE WAKE UP, ROUGH HOURS ARE NOW!

Once again Violence as a nickname does not slap how this author think it does.

But Violet, my girl, all the clues are there... for you to at least believe him

Omg she believed him!! gotta give it to her that she is able to separate the "you lied to me about our relationship" (which he didn't but lets be real, the optics of this reveal are not in his romantic favour) and the "what you lied about is actually true". Look at one keep of comparmentalisation.

The Dragons not telling her is nasty as hell. Violet stand behind me. I will defend you.

The fact that his dad knew about it... hmmm are we starting to believe his wife killed him.

I mean my gal you gave him everything but lets be realistic... this was just starting you cannot expect someone who has been through what he has been through to trust you from the get go.

omg they sent all the branded to the outpost to attack them an end them and.

AND DAIN TOUCHED HER AND HE KNEW HE KNEW!!

DAIN WAS SAYING GOODBYE TO HER. HE IS SO LIMP DICK THAT HE DEADSASS SENT THE WOMAN HE "LOVES" TO HER DEATH BECAUSE SHE WAS SLEEPING WITH A GUY WHO, UNBEKNOWNST TO HER AT THAT POINT, HAD A THING FOR A TRAITOR!!!!! WHEN I CATCH YOU DAIN ATTOS!!!

Wait, what if he is in kahoots with her sister and this is a bigger plan to save the kingdom because their current leadership is weak af???

Yeah you've been sent here to die. Oh boo this is not... this is not ideal.

I AM RAGING! RAGING!!! SOMEONE HOLD ME I'M ABOUT TO THROW FISTS.

Of course they are going to stay, that's what anyone with a good fucking heart would.

Liam saying "we're friend Violet" just as he is very clearly about to die. GOD SOMEONE HOLD ME I AM ABOUT TO BURN THE WORLD FOR HIM.

I find it so fucking unfair that if a dragon dies the rider dies too.Like no. Not fair.

Him asking her to take care of his sister. Oh fuck this shit. Fuck this shit and fuck everyone who had anything to do with this.

oh Liam using his last moments to be wing man for Xaden lol that's a real one right there.

Xaden losing his brother in Liam... oh it's just nasty business, nasty business all around. I'm suing for this.

Dain COUNT YOUR MOTHERFUCKING DAYS YOU ARE DEAD TO ME AND I WILL HAVE YOUR 🫵🏼 HEAD 🫵🏼 FOR THIS

Omg look at that he did not die!! He came really close but then the power of friendship saved him. DID YOU SEE THAT? LIAM DID NOT DIE IN MY BOOK. Stay safe y'all.

trying v hard to care about Violet's apparent amazing hidden power.. when Liam's almost death happened

If you see me being delusional or in deep denial, please mind your business.

And there she goes ... as she dies (??? ) saying one last time that Xaden is hot. Gotta give it to her my girl is committed.

lol it is hilarious that Tairn is yelling at Xaden for not telling her.

Omg she lost her memories... this is not ... ugh... oh my god... this is annoying. Nope she did not. Thank god.

"she exists and I get turned on" well and they say that romance is dead.

HE IS ALIVE I FUCKING KNEWWWWW IT I FUCKING KNEW IT I FUCKING KNEW IT JSNJSFSJNVKHZVD.SVHJSDACOSDVBOHSVJSB

I HAVE NEVER NOT ONCE MADE A MISTAKE IN MY LIFE!!!! GO BRENNAN SORRENGAIL NATION, THE TIME IS NOW!

Before I wrap this up I want to extend a formal apology to Chaol Westfall, baby I'm so sorry I ever compared Dain to you. Even at your worst, Chaol you were still honorable. Dain can eat dust!

LUISA READS FOURTH WING :)

Right fam, time for some dragon riding (non sexual… from what I have been able to gather)

Ngl, but reading (listening) the "a dragon without its rider is a tragedy, a rider without its dragon is dead" after seeing so many tiktoks about it and them being all epic, has me giddy, has me excited. Here we go.

So far we have a cunty yet caring elder sister, a dead dad, a rude as fuck mum, a dead brother (who apparently was beloved above all) and a girl severely lacking in calcium.

"you won't get any special treatment just for being my daughter" my sister in christ, what special treatment? so far you have been nothing like an ass.

I cannot judge Violet for wanting to take her books with her....but babygirl from what I have seen you truly have no strength.. so like..sugar.. either develop some muscle or like let it go.

What's so wrong about being a scribe? like what do you all have against academia?

Okay no wait... what are they prepping her for? What the fuck is this subscription day? isn't it like just first day of uni?? Is she fighting? is it a race? to like the first dragon they can find? the first tunnel of their respective career?

aaaaaaaand here comes the childhood friend with soft brown eyes that laughs with his whole body.

Seems like extremely poor parenting to send your extremly untrained daughter into such a challenge... like she has to climb some rocks... and like run a lot, there's going to be wind. Like no. And for what? for the glory of your name? SHE CAN'T EVEN LIFT HER OWN BOOKS!

Gotta love a "This isn't America's TOP BEST FRIEND" moment.

I'm sorry but how is conscribing (?) all children from the traitors to the best school in the kingdom/republic/empire/country and give them a solid ass chance of becoming riders, and therefore climb to the top of the social and military pyramid a fitting punishment? They should have ended their respective bloodlines. You rebel you and your entire bloodline die.

Colombian brain translating Xaden to Xavier.

I should have asked... can dragons talk in this world?

What is the parapit?? Is that how it is written?

Mira (?) is a badass. Queen behaviour.

Mira being like "don't die Violet, I'd hate to be an only child." And having seen her mother? Honestly same. Like no. Hard Pass.

Wait is the blonde guy she is befriending the one with the scar from the betrayal?? Dylan? yes? no?

Oh and they get to marry after graduating. Why do I feel I am walking straight into another early 20s marriage.

Most riders are legacies... good to see nepotism is alive and well. Neporiders.

Oh so Xaden has tattoos from his wrist up to his jaw.. okay, okay.

AND HIS FATHER KILLED HER OLDER BROTHER. AND THEY WERE ROOMATES!

My girl really went "He is #SoTall and #HandsomeAsHell"

I don't get what this challenge is about and apparently Dylan is not making it, he liked slipped or smth and is like hanging...

yeah no he fell to his death. RIP Dylan.

My girl is like screaming history facts to distract herself while she [insert the challenge.... I think it's walking a very slippery bridge]

Okay so Jack is an asshole... it's giving Cato.

Kinda want to bet that he will try to eventually fight Violet and Xaden will defend her.

Got confirmation, it is in fact a bridge.

Rihannon made it. Which is a personal win because she seems sweet.

Oh my god Jack focus on your own thing, you are being and asshole, no one cares. Fuck off, fall to your death, shut up. Like why are you so pressed about this random ass calcium lacking girl. GET A JOB. STAY AWAY FROM HER.

Not her reciting the codex lol it is giving Elizabeth Swann citing The Pirate Code to Captain Barbossa. Babygirl, bless you, but he clearly does not give a fuck.

Violet truly made that crossing out of delulu energy and history facts and honestly? respect.

Wait, hold the fuck on... this audiobook is 21h long? what on god's green earth is going to happen in this book? oh my god this thread is going to be huge. Apologies to all.

omg Jack why are you still talking? either shut up or jump infront of a dragon and die. LIKE WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH HER? He is giving blonde guy energy (but not the one you gave Dylan. RIP Dylan. You will never be forgotten)

aaaaaahhh there we go Jack threatened her and when he makes the move to kill her Xaden will be like "the fuck bro" and kill him instead.

Here comes the childhood best friend. I feel he is hot. Dane? Dane Atos?? Kinda hot of him. Wait he is Squad Leader? that's hot.

#Luisa Reads Fourth Wing #Fourth Wing #Violet Sorrengail #Xaden Riorson #Violent x Xaden #Xaden x Violet #what is their ship name???#Luisa Reads

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langernameohnebedeutung · 3 years ago

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I feel like part of the reason why all these new YA-"dystopias" are Like That and create discourse Like That is because they pursue their entirely own goal and have an audience and a following for entirely different reasons from the cLaSsICs(TM) of the dystopia-genre.

We joke about the cliché YA-dystopia protagonist (special girl oppressed for Random Trait who basically takes down the Evil Overlords single-handedly) while we also know the popular counter argument (Luke Skypotter gets to do it why not Katboss Everdeen??)

And honestly, the counter-argument is right, there is nothing inherently wrong a character like that. (although we should engage critically with the way marginalisation and oppression are portrayed in these stories)

But when it comes to conveying a larger-than-the-story message, every kind of protagonist has specific strengths and weaknesses. That's normal - every character has their own point of view that they're inviting the reader to share in. This type of protagonist generally really has limitations when it comes to engaging with the psychology and self-sustaining mechanisms of the systems portrayed in these dystopian settings.

It is very difficult to discuss compliance and internalisation and normalisation if from the very first page, your character is like: "These are our evil overlords, these are the horrible things they do to us, everyone in this District/Town/Zone hates them!"

- because

a) once you do that, you have to come up with a more functional explanation for why this system is still in place like ... they have all the military power or they have super-powers or something like that and

b) your reader immediately sees the world from that perspective. They identify with the one hero who sees through their environment as if its glass and immediately knows who the enemy is and is entirely separate from that force. But if a story actually tries to comment on such structures in the real world, we also have to make room for the fact that 1) the average person is the leader of the resistence and 2) one person isn't going to dismantle the system and 3) one rousing speech is not going to start a rebellion.

This kind of narrative comes from a very different perspective than a story where your protagonist is fully integrated into a fucked-up system and is so deep in the labyrinth, they don't remember getting lost to begin with - here, you, the reader, are fully aware that this entire system is fucked-up. You're horrified. But you accompany your point-of-view character while they only yet slowly, very slowly are beginning to realise that they're not happy. That maybe some things they're told aren't true - and then, eventually, that they are also part of that same system.

If you compare a character like Guy Montag to a character like Mare Barrow from Red Queen, you notice that they send their readers on entirely different journeys of discovery (journey of discovery is btw a thing I'm trying to make happen in book talks so spread the contagion):

Mare Barrow is unhappy with the dystopia she lives in. She makes that pretty clear pretty early on. She is basically our tour guide, completely aware of the 2020ies western mindset of her audience when she tells us all about her world - because she is someone we're supposed to identify with. And not in the Bella Swan way where she becomes a canvas to project on by being as bland and passive as possible - but by being relatable to a 2020ies audience not native to her red-vs-silver world.

She thinks a lot like us and has a very similar concept of justice - and even comes from a comparable background to the point that her family interactions often read as if a normal middle-class family fell through some dimensional crack and fell into that world.

Guy Montag, asshole he is, is unhappy - but he still has to find out why he is unhappy and how his dissatisfaction relates to the world he lives in. In fact, you might argue - if we start regarding these specific types of YA-dystopias as its own genre - there, Clarisse would be the protagonist, not Guy just like making Guy's wife the protagonist would again make it an entirely different genre.

And I'm not trying to be judgemental here and rule either as inherently (!) better than the other (although, if you want know my personal opinion: nuance is the best way to convey a complex message). Plenty of rubbish has been produced with either goal in mind.

I'm also not saying that this format cannot be used to convey critical messages about society (for example, when I discussed Hunger Games with my students I did feel like the novel got them thinking critically about how media twists things and what shape an unfree press might take in our times).

But I do think that it might be time to just own up to the fact that these types of dystopias do not aim to accomplish the same things that for example George Orwell when he was very specifically mirroring the Soviet Union in his criticism. And that the people reading them are not looking for the same thing they'd crack open Animal Farm for.

Many of these stories are just the author coming up with a fucked-up scenario that fits neither sci-fi nor cyberpunk nor fantasy to a T. And some special girl defeating it while choosing between two extremely bland boyfriends, one of whomst is kinda rude sometimes and might even have at tattoo. And sure, the individual stories should be subject to criticsm and genre tendencies should be - but I just feel like we save ourselves a lot of time by assuming they're not trying to accomplish the same thing as Brave New World - but are actually loaning from that tradition - and engage with them under that premise.

#what I'm really trying to say is that storytel gave me too much power #nonfandom #literature

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