#i'm just seeing a lot of “anger is never productive! civility activitism is the way to go!” comments. is this not the radical left website
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bixels · 10 months ago
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I agree; we live in a wildly different public consciousness than the average person. I'll hear about my uncle generating an AI image of his family as the Avengers for Facebook and will say, "that's fun," because I know he's having fun with his family.
But (in response to folks in the notes, not OP) let's not pretend like artists are being unreasonable when we act frustrated or angry. AI memes, fine, whatever, but AI art is not harmless. It's not a topic that artists are removed from and are forcefully inserting ourselves into, we've been unwillingly involved since day one. We know that behind each piece of AI art is a real artist who didn't want this to happen. I have friends whose entire art styles and OCs––fucking OCs––were ripped into a image database, then sold as prompts on AI marketplaces. We have a reason to be mad. Our anger may be counterproductive, but is it apt.
Like it or not, AI art is intrinsically tied to labor politics. It isn't a online-only ideological mini culture war, it's a real problem that's happening in real life to real people.It's just slow enough and quiet enough to not make any big eye-catching waves. It only seems "online-only" because that's where the majority of people have the easiest, most direct contact with the artists who are affected and raising discourse. Just because discourse is happening online doesn't mean it's inconsequential in real life. It doesn't seem real to your average person because art is widely perceived as a "get a real job" hobby, not a viable career that's tied to labor politics or a passion that deserves respect or protection. Take it from an artist who has the great fortune (/s) of attending a tech school. Someone who doesn't know about this and ends up getting blasted will think you're insane. But let's not pretend like getting angry about people fueling an unfair situation that's affecting our livelihoods is insane too.
the thing about ai art is that to most normal, not-overly-online people, its just a little internet gimmick for them to play around with, akin to flash games or funny videos. if you see someone trying it and you come into their inbox telling them they are a horrible person who wants to starve artists, without first explaining the hundred tumblr soundbites and mini culture wars youve immersed yourself in to get to that conclusion, they are probably going to think you are fucking insane
#again i'm responding moreso to folks in the notes rather than op#op is fine#but i'm seeing shit like “online artists think they're an oppressed minority fr”#read amia srinivasan's “the aptness of anger”#i am not referring to people/artists who are being unreasonable and harassing people don't @ me with quotes from them#i'm just seeing a lot of “anger is never productive! civility activitism is the way to go!” comments. is this not the radical left website#like. we've BEEN talking about this for over a year. we've BEEN warning people and educating people. there was an entire STRIKE#I still remember over a year ago when most of tumblr was into AI and argued it was actually#an vital tool for the proletariat to take back#the means of production 🤓 what do you mean it'll take away jobs? that doesn't sound very leftist of you.#glad to see people are STILL arguing that “AI is actually great because copyright laws are evil” in the notes#i don't know how to explain to you that stealing is wrong and consent is important. even in your fictional communist commune#if an artist says “i don't want another party to make money off of my work” regardless of copyright that should be the END OF DISCUSSION#again. i have artist friends whose ocs (who are not copyrighted) were stolen and sold. that is wrong. do you understand? that is unethical#saying “I don't want my personal artwork to be used and reproduced by someone else for profit” does not make you a bad leftist#i'm not even arguing for or against copyright this is just ethics#because let's make one thing very clear. the endgoal of ai from the perspective of the people/companies developing it is not to give people#the tool to make their own art. it is not to allow people to reclaim privatized art#it is to create products that are easier to produce and monetize. that is the endgoal#the ONLY reason ai tools are free right now is because they want your free labor. because your interaction and cooperation directly#helps development. i said it last year and it's already happening now#pretty soon they're gonna start putting monthly subscriptions on all these free ai tools. they want to monetize your creation process#and then sell it.#they're just sneaky enough at playing the long game that you don't realize. any illusions of leftist ideals are only temporary.#do you really honestly truly believe the companies that are quietly partnering with media/art platforms to underhandedly trick#users and artists into giving free labor hidden under obscured settings and complicated opt-outs have YOUR best interests in mind?#anyways. ai is political and real.#reblog#rant#personal
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s0fti3w1tch · 10 months ago
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#again i'm responding moreso to folks in the notes rather than op#op is fine#but i'm seeing shit like “online artists think they're an oppressed minority fr”#read amia srinivasan's “the aptness of anger”#i am not referring to people/artists who are being unreasonable and harassing people don't @ me with quotes from them#i'm just seeing a lot of “anger is never productive! civility activitism is the way to go!” comments. is this not the radical left website#like. we've BEEN talking about this for over a year. we've BEEN warning people and educating people. there was an entire STRIKE#glad to see people are STILL arguing that “AI is actually great because copyright laws are evil” in the notes#if an artist says “i don't want another party to make money off of my work” regardless of copyright that should be the END OF DISCUSSION#again. i have artist friends whose ocs (who are not copyrighted) were stolen and sold. that is wrong. do you understand? that is unethical#saying “I don't want my personal artwork to be used and reproduced by someone else for profit” does not make you a bad leftist#anyways. ai is political and real.#repeating myself because i know someone will think i'm advocating for harassment or witch hunts.#don't do that! there are so many people out there who Just Don't Know. But also don't argue that our frustration and anger at#ignorant complicity is inherently unwarranted or unreasonable
the thing about ai art is that to most normal, not-overly-online people, its just a little internet gimmick for them to play around with, akin to flash games or funny videos. if you see someone trying it and you come into their inbox telling them they are a horrible person who wants to starve artists, without first explaining the hundred tumblr soundbites and mini culture wars youve immersed yourself in to get to that conclusion, they are probably going to think you are fucking insane
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