#i was kinda wanting something thatd would go all year but her style is more weekly for a couple months to tackle specific goals

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I survived the therapy appointment with only one embarrassing moment. literally half of it was just this fuckin image

[springfieldblues]

I’m glad that I’m not being rude or anything. I love talking about dynamics as well (and my sister is sick of me talking about Nelson and Lisa lmao) and I’m really giving with being able to discuss this with someone who knows quite a bit more than I do so I can learn something new from them! I also don’t mind the long reply because I’m loving hearing someone else’s side of it.

First things first, I didn’t mean that she’d said the thing about Milhouse in that episode. My thoughts get kinda jumbled because I don’t want these asks to be too long. I was referencing when she first tells Milhouse that she liked Nelson, and I can’t quote her, but I think she does says that she wants to bring the Milhouse out in Nelson, which always rubbed me the wrong way for some reason (but it’s an old episode, so 🤷🏻‍♀️). Like she looks down on Milhouse for the way he is but wants to bring out some of his qualities out in someone else when the guy she’s trying to change (even if she thinks it’s for the better) has a soft side that she won’t pay attention to because he wasn’t the ideal version she’s made up (but I think we’ve all had versions of people in our heads that weren’t at all what they were really like so I understand).

It’s also a little odd to me that in Love, Springfieldian Style (even though i love the Nelisa and the Sex Pistols vibes with every fiber of my being) it’s strange to think that out of the three stories, the one that they appear in was not healthy AT ALL. Like, Bonnie and Clyde aren’t healthy at all and Homer and Marge play them, but when you look into the real story behind Nancy and Sid, it’s certainly not family friendly. But other than that I don’t have much to say on it because I really like that part of the episode.

But I agree that writing fiction is a good way to play with dynamics. I’m currently writing a fic (with an OC because the plan that I had would have been very OOC for Lisa) but it is already interesting to see the characters interact and seeing what works while writing it. But I do really want to look into your comic and see how you write each of them because I’m not having a great time writing Lisa. I just don’t feel like I got her right, but we don’t see a lot of 16 year old Lisa and even though it’s fun, I have a fear of writing Nelson (one of the main characters in the fic) as ooc as well. But I won’t bother you with that, sorry for the rambling lol

dont be sorry, i enjoy the rambling!

youre right, she did say she wanted to bring out the milhouse in nelson in that episode....i can see how thatd be weird LMAO for some reason i never gave it much thought but good observation. reminds me of the episode where milhouse got a crush on this new girl and lisa got mad and milhouse called her out on it because its like she didnt want to be with him but she doesnt want him to be with other people either?? or something along those lines and i was like DAMN MILHOUSE u got her

also yeah the sid and nancy segment is arguably nelson and lisa at their most toxic but to be fair, they were playing sid and nancy. that doesnt make it any less engaging though (they made a movie about sid and nancy for a reason after all)

when it comes to writing 16yo lisa you gotta remember that the show pretty often writes her as if shes already 16. based on the not-morrissey episode, they seem to be pretty self aware of that fact too. all you have to do is make her less childish and a bit more hardened (at that age, id imagine shes gone through enough disappointment to last her a lifetime,) and beyond that point i think its up to you and how youd interpret she would be like as a 16 year old, taking into account the backstory you decided to give her. you could look for teen characters with vibes similar to what youre looking for. the first season of chilling adventures of sabrina has a sabrina thats, in my opinion, pretty much a live action horror-themed teen lisa simpson. you could also sprinkle a little bit of daria in there to. velma from mystery inc. belle from beauty and the beast. hermione granger. just some examples that could work for you!

nelson is a bit tougher to write thanks to his inconsistent characterization in the show, so you have to do a bit of reconstruction yourself, taking the bits and pieces that make sense to you and want to work with. im personally going for a mean and slightly stoic ‘whatever’ kind of vibe while keeping his crass sense of humor, resourcefulness and secret soft side. but mostly hes just unreadable (purposefully so) unless youre paying attention to what he does and why he does it rather than what he says, because he doesnt really express himself much. my personal inspiration for him is john bender from the breakfast club (though id argue that bender is meaner, maybe some things just come across different in live action)

thats all i can say on writing them, idk how helpful that may be but yeah. you just gotta go with what feels right!! vague advice i know but im kind of bad at explaining these things, i really feel like im mostly going off vibes more than anything hahaha

anyway i wish you good luck on your writing endeavors!!