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The Death of a Vampire
Lestat as a protagonist just works so incredibly well and a very significant aspect of that is him being Anne Rice's self-insert. Lived experience can be critical when it comes to writing a good story and many memorable novels will feature elements of that. Anne is built different, though. Lestat (book 2 onwards) is basically Anne's journal for dealing with her grievances and trauma, which, on its own, is a very questionable method of writing. More often than not, it causes him to be characterized inconsistently between books because Anne's own opinions have changed. But it also makes him so real.
You follow his struggles with religion, you see him yearn for forgiveness from a god that has seemingly abandoned him a long time ago and you feel it. The passage I will never get over is in the early chapters of The Vampire Lestat, when Lestat has a breakdown over his mother's (and frankly his own) mortality. He struggles and he cries and he can't get out of bed because there's nothing he can do. Eventually he starts to live again, forces himself to.
But.
"I wandered into the church and on my knees I leaned against the wall and I looked at the ancient statues and I felt the same gratitude looking at the finely carved fingers and the noses and the ears and the expressions on their faces and the deep folds in their garments, and I couldnāt stop myself from crying. At least we had these beautiful things, I said. Such goodness. But nothing natural seemed beautiful to me now! The very sight of a great tree standing alone in a field could make me tremble and cry out. Fill the orchard with music. And let me tell you a little secret. It never did pass, really."
I think about those last two sentences a lot. I think about them even more since Anne Rice passed away.
Every page of Interview is spent talking about death and yet (imo) it's only in TVL that you really feel it. Louis in book 1 welcomes death quite readily because, besides his toxic boyfriend and their traumatized daughter, he doesn't have much to live for. He's basically given up by the time Lestat appears. The greatest torture, to Louis, is the knowledge that he can live forever on the suffering of others.
But Lestat is the complete opposite. He wants to listen to music, to explore Paris, to perform on any stage that will take him, to embrace the man he loves and to send his ailing mother letters of his accomplishments. Death matters most to those who are desperate to live and god is he desperate. He's haunted by his mother's sickness, by the wolves on the mountain that threaten to end his life before he's even lived it, the witches place that reeks of meaningless suffering. And in a way, the dark gift provides opportunity to escape that. But it is still death. It takes away Nicki in a very literal way and takes away his mother in a more personal one. Magnus, like death, chose Lestat arbitrarily. He sees the cellar of blonde corpses and knows that he was only one of dozens to meet an untimely death with no explanation.
Lestat also really wants you to know that he is, truly, a good person. He must be. He swears to only hunt criminals and then goes back on that two pages later. He reshapes stories to present himself as the noble protagonist and the audience has no choice but to believe him. He wants, desperately, to be loved for all that he is, man and monster. He wants to be the hero.
He's this awful, fascinating, very human man so clearly born out of the internal struggle to find meaning and love in a cruel, unpredictable world we all tend to share. He's made up of incredibly basic and powerful human desires hidden behind a mask of bravado and I can't recalling seeing another protagonist like him.
(Quick mention: This isn't some kind of "wow Anne Rice is an incredible author who can do no wrong" piece. She's written a lot of fucked up and bad shit that cannot be easily brushed over. But I don't think I'll ever get over reading TVL for the first time. To read someone bare their soul in such a way creates a truly unique experience. A lot of characters in a lot of pieces of media face death, but it's rare to see a character face mortality in such a personal way.)
(Also odds are I've written similar posts to this before but shhhhh these sad gay vampires are all I have)
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An Irreverent Intro to the Iliad
A/N:Iāve taken the introduction to the Lombardo translation and condensed it. Any time I says something to the effect ofĀ ādonāt quote me on thisā that means Iāve added my own analysis or thoughts that I cannot back up in any way, so donāt, like, put it in an essay if you donāt plan on doing your own research.
Anyway, you donāt care about that stuff, you came here to read about the Iliad.
Itās really fricken long, so, for the sake of mobile users, everythingās under the cut except for this:
āRage. Bitch, lemme tell you about the time that Achilles fucked over the entire Greek army by Rage-quitting.ā
Timeline for the NoobsĀ
Ten years ago:
Aphrodite bribes Paris so she can win a beauty contest between herself, Athena, and Hera. Parisā reward for hisĀ āheroicsā is Helen
(Thereās probably an essayās worth of symbolism you could dig into here, what with the goddesses all representing different priorities: erotic love, wisdom/justice, and familial duty. I wonder what Parisā choice reveals about his character?)
Thereās some disagreement about whether or not Helen when with Paris willingly
Seeing as literally no other woman in the Iliad (and maybe the entire Cycle? Donāt quote me on that) willingly went with her kidnapper, Iām calling bull on that. Do with that what you will.
Menelaus gets really mad that Paris stole his wife, so he rounds up the Greek army, and they go to war. (Itās worth noting that Athena and Hera are both on his side here.)
Present day:
Agamemnon(Boo), Menelausā brother kidnaps a girl. Then he has the balls to get upset that the girlās father called Apolloās plague down upon the Greeks until sheās returned
Achilles points out that Agamemnonās being a dick and people are literally dying because he wonāt let go of one girl. Agamemnon says,Ā āFine. If I have to give up my lady-war-prize, Iām taking yours as recompense.ā
Achilles allows Agamemnon to take his girl, then Rage-quits. As consequence, people die.
Hypocrites. Hypocrites everywhere. If you wanna analyze that for an essay, I think thereās plenty to talk about.Ā
The Theme Worth Giving a Shit About (Because it Drives the Narrative)
Heroes risk their lives on the battlefield in exchange for Prizes
Ie. riches, bitches, and clout
Honor <--> Shame is how they judge the value of others and themselves. Honor wins Prizes, Shame loses Prizes
3 Characters Worth Giving a Shit About (Because They Explore the Aforementioned Theme)
Achilles: Main character. Rage is his thing. Also, pouting.Ā
His honor is insulted by Agamemnon(Boo) taking away Briseis, his lady war prize. Since war prizes are how their society rewards heroes for risking their lives, Agamemnon is basically saying he doesnāt care of Achilles dies or not.
And that hurts Achillesļæ½ļæ½ļæ½ feelings because he knows heās gonna die. Thereās a prophecy about it.Ā
The only reason heās fighting is because society conditioned him to believe that Prizes and eternal glory were worth dying for.
Now that he doubts everything he knows, he refuses to fight for the Greeks.
The entire poem is the consequences of his Rage-quit
Agamemnon: fuck this guy
He loses his lady war prize, so he takes Achillesā. Because short-sighted spite is the best motivator.
He and Achilles start the poem in the same place, believing that material goods should equally compensate a loss. Achilles is the one who learns that thatās not how that works.
Agamemnon starts as a dick and ends as a dick. Google Iphigenia if you want to learn more. And that shit he pulls with Cassandra? Major dickbag. Fuck this guy.Ā
Hector: The Trojan hero, and honestly the only likable guy here.Ā
He is Achillesā foil.Ā
Just like Achilles, heās separated from society - but, unlike Achilles, itās not because he rejects their values. Itās because he never questions them.
Heās basically the perfect hero, and he suffers for it:
His son is scared of his war helmet
He canāt stay closer to home to fight defensively because thatāsĀ āshamefulā
And he canāt even stay in the city that long on his breaks because wine and women are too tempting.Ā
Side Characters to Maybe Give a Fuck About
Patroclus: The most important of the supporting cast, and heās only in it for, like, maybe a book
Achillesā BFF and probably more
(Read: Definitely more. If you listen carefully, you can hear me chanting OTP OTP OTP every time you open your book.)
He is Achillesā double
He never doubts society but supports his bestieās midlife crisis anyway
His death at the hands of Hector symbolizes Achillesā death because he was wearing Achillesā armor at the time
Achilles causes Patroclusā death btw
When he Rage-quits, he asks Zeus to help the Trojans (because short-sighted spite is the best motivator). Patroclus goes to help the Greeks wearing Achillesā very recognizable armor, causing Hector to target and kill him
His death redirects Achillesā Rage at the Trojans instead of the Greeks
Diomedes: a badass fighter
Greater Ajax: a badass fighter
and (I think) the guy who talks sense into Achilles at some point
Ajax the Lesser: a badass fighter (are you sensing a theme in these characters?)
Odysseus: the only smart guy here
The Odyssey is about him btw
The Trojan horse was his idea, according to the Aeneid (and maybe other places? But definitely the Aeneid.)
WTF is an Epic Poem Anyway?
Epic Poem: recounts events with far-reaching historical consequences, sums up the values and achievements of an entire culture, and documents the full variety of the war
Basically, ifĀ āāMurica, Fuck Yeahā sums up America, then the Iliad sums up Ancient Greece
(Actually, Hamilton is a better comparison, but I needed to make a joke. Fite me.)
ThatĀ āfull varietyā thing is why Book 2 and a couple other places just list off a bunch of ships or leaders and their dads. That shit is boring. Skip it.Ā
But also, thatĀ āfull varietyā thing is what makes other parts of the story so interesting. Homer will sum up a dudeās life story right before he kills them or some shit. It magnifies the scale of the narrative by showing how insignificant one personās experience is - no one person can stop the war.
Thatās what makes Achillesā story even more powerful --> because his impact on the war is significant. His Rage controls the ebb and flow of it.Ā
He canāt stop the war though. No one can.Ā
The Gods are Petty as Fuck
Homeric gods look/act like humans, but theyāre different mainly because of two things:
1. They canāt die.
That means they treat the events of the war less seriously than the mortals do.
2. The gods know about fate
To the modern reader, it seems like the humans have no agency, but thatās not really the case
Knowing fate is a bit like knowing the plot of a movie. It gives insight into a characterās actions that would otherwise seem random.
By reading this poem, youāre basically a god. Donāt let it go to your head. (But, hey, thereās a reason Iām majoring in this shit)
Bards like Homer would more directly be gods because they changed and adapted the story as they told it, just like the gods influence human actions in the story.
Don't quote me on that tho
Character choices are usually doubly motivated - by the human, and by the gods
Ex: Achilles chooses not to kill Agamemnon because Athena tells him not to.
This is personifying the literal thought process he had so that the reader understands whatās going through his head.
Fate doesnāt force anyone to act out of character --> fate is the consequence of their life choices
The gods not caring about death and his own lack of foresight is what Achilles messes up on
He asks Zeus to help him get revenge on the Greeks because he assumes Zeus cares about that sort of thing, but Zeus is bigger than that.
That leads Patroclusā death, btw.
TheĀ āEnduring Heartā Shit
Achilles is really butthurt that Agamemnon wronged him
The lesson he has to learn is that even if material goods canāt make up for losses, thereās no other option --> you canāt bring people back from the dead, so you have to move on
Thatās the Enduring Heart shit
also, if you abstract that concept it sounds kinda like entropy to me (Donāt quote me on that tho)
He learns that lesson by feeling pity for Priam (Hectorās dad) instead of perpetuating the Rage Train
And, hey, that Enduring Heart shit is a lesson that all of us could take to heart. None of us want to die, but itās gonna happen. Maybe thatās not fair, but throwing a temper tantrum isnāt going to change anything. Really, the only way to avoid being miserable is to embrace our mortality so we can appreciate life while we have it
donāt quote me on that tho
In a nutshell, Achilles has to accept his mortal-ness. Otherwise thereās a lot of unnecessary suffering.Ā
Thatās why we donāt need to see him die in the Iliad even though everyone makes such a big deal about the prophecy about his death. His journey was completed as soon as he found pity in himself instead of Rage - essentially rejecting the godly side of himself (oh yeah, I forgot to mention. His mom is a goddess) and embracing his mortality.Ā
because gods donāt have to deal with death, they can Rage all they want, remember?
Also, if he never dies, he canāt be reunited with Patroclus.Ā
OTP OTP OTP
You could probably write an essay about how Achilles died as soon as Patroclus did.
Honestly Boring Historical Context (That might be interesting if youāre a nerd like me?
The poem was basically historical fantasy even when it was first written. There are gods and super strength and shit
Greek History Over-Simplified: The Mycanaean Period was prosperous but ended suddenly. The Dark Ages of Greece followed, and we donāt know much about what happened during that because they forgot the written word was a thin.Ā
The events of the poem probably take place during the Mycanaean Period because they use bronze weapons.Ā
But warfare is described from more of a Dark Ages perspective. Like, they donāt use chariots the right way
Which suggests that chariots were part of the source material, then the Dark Ages made people forget how they were supposed to be sued, so the bards just kinda made shit up to explain their presence. (Donāt quote me on that tho)
The Oral Tradition of the poem means that this story was told thousands of times over hundreds (thousands?) of years. So the narrative is hones at shit.
it has the sculpted body of an Olympic athlete. Each muscle toned to do a specific job and everything works perfectly together to accomplish the sporty feat of interest. Every verse is packed with character, setting, plot, and cultural significance
Except for that Catologue of Ships shit. Boooo boring ships.
There were probably lots of other versions of the poem, but Homer told it best. His version was written down as soon as the written word was (re)invented
Side Note that wasnāt in Lombardoās Intro
The Iliad and Odyssey are both parts of a larger body of work known as the Epic CycleĀ
(The Aeneid is basically Caesar Augustus-insert fanfiction at that, btw. Virgil was a satirical fanboy and Iām living for it.)
Characters and events are introduced with the assumptions that the reader already knows their importance
But we only have fragments of the rest of the Cycle today because it was either never written down or the manuscripts were lost
Iām looking at you, Burned Library of Alexandria
*sad fiddle music plays in the background
Videos That I Learned Shit From (Only, like, the first two links are relevantĀ to the topic at hand, btw)
Basic Plot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faSrRHw6eZ8
More about the Epic Cycle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3bn0eKt4RwĀ
Iphigenia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifFsKCrH3GMĀ
Oresteia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kpGhivh05k Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā
The Odyssey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-3rHQ70Pag&index=4&list=PLDb22nlVXGgfwG1qbOtNgu897E_ky_8To (Also, this story is my favorite of the Epic Cycle)
The Aeneid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRruBVFXjnY&list=PLDb22nlVXGgfwG1qbOtNgu897E_ky_8To&index=5Ā Ā
Ancient Greek History: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzGVpkYiJ9w&index=2&list=PLDb22nlVXGgexsbafIwirG6Tk9uww9dSWĀ Ā Ā
And, yeah, these videos are all from the same channel. Iām a basic bitch and a ho for not leaving my comfort zone. Fite me.Ā
Honestly, if anyone has other sources, let me know. Youtube history/video essays are my shit.
I hope this was helpful.
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