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silkjade Ā· 7 months ago
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papers4me Ā· 4 years ago
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Fruits Basket SE2, ep12, part2
The way this ep was handled make it stands alone outside of furubaā€™s world. It can very well be an anime film. We donā€™t even need to know why the main couple broke up or anything abt the curse lore. Itā€™s a story abt a couple who couldā€™ve been the happiest, but parted ways despite loving each other still. A story about a woman ,one-sidedly, falling deeply in love with a taken man despite wishing the couple all the happiness. Mayu was rightĀ ā€œ ppl donā€™t fall in love to be sad & lonelyā€ but everybody in this ep was sad & lonely. Including shigure.Ā 
-Standing Still while everybody moves on:
Kana moved on & married. Yet, Hatori stood still, time has passed, his heart healed, but his mind didnā€™t. He condemned himself into life long confinement next to his abuser, like a robot, always within Akitoā€™s reach, always on call. One day heā€™s out picking up a book, didnā€™t even intend to!, then he gets scolded for daring to go outside his virtual cage. First time he went to take the book, he was tricked by Shigure, but the second time he went on his own volition. He wanted an excuse to escape. Mayu, too, stood still as time passed, still feeling guilty abt loving hatori. still held by the past. Sheā€™s too aware that her emotions were once one-sided that she fears taking a step forward.
-Shigureā€™s ā€œSteal Him!!!ā€ advice:
ā€œsteal himā€ as if hatori is a helpless toy. This is very interesting insight into shigureā€™s mentality:
(a) Maybe Shigure only said that to urge Mayu to do sth for herself. heā€™s playing the role of the author putting characters in situations & watching how they react & how things unfold. It also shows a kind of sickening delight he has upon watching dramatic situations. Then..donā€™t we all love drama?.but i dare hope that we donā€™t instigate it.
(b) Maybe Shigure really wants Mayu toĀ ā€œstealā€ hatori cuz thatā€™s how he wants to do with Akito. He wants to steal her from Kureno. By stealing he means play the tricks of seducing & manipulating the situations to his/her favor. This puts a whole perspective into the already know fact of shigure not justifying his actions of manipulating others for his gain. He loves Akito & for the name of love, he shall do what he needs to do. Including using others. If shigure wants sth, he reaches out & takes it. If he canā€™t, heā€™ll play dirty until he can. He truly wanted Mayu to follow his footsteps to gain hatori. Maybe he wants to feel that heā€™s not the only one tainted by loving someone who doesnā€™t love them back equally. Cuz afterall Mayu is his shoes now. I canā€™t confirm if Akito doesnā€™t love/never loved/stopped loving Shigure romantically, it is not shown yet. but what is shown is that Shigureā€™s world orbits around Akito. Heā€™s not affected by the curse, or traumatized, but he is so in love with her & will be damned if he wonā€™t crush the entire sohma system so she can be his. I duno how I feel abt his dedication tho. I love how morally grey it is. i duno how much toxicity is weaven into their relationship. Akitoā€™s perspective is needed before I could make an opinion. But Iā€™ll say this, heā€™s scary when he doesnā€™t get what he wants & heā€™s scarier when he feels no guilt over stomping over others to reach his goal. if Mayu, actually ā€œstoleā€ hatori, then sheā€™ll have to stomp all over a kind unsuspected friend whose fault is that sheā€™s in the way. Iā€™m glad Mayu isnā€™t didnā€™t steep low in the name of love.
-Shigureā€™s ā€œlets dateā€ suggestion:
I love this suggestion!!! Mayu & shigure both established that they have no romantic feelings to each other. Then why date? cuz theyā€™re both damn lonely! heā€™s also bored but I believe heā€™s masking his loneliness as well. We all grew up believing Iā€™ll crush on someone, get asked out, date, fall in love & thatā€™s how things always happen. NO. Often times (for me at least), everybody around me follows the above sequence & i find myself behind, so alone that I so much yearn for a romantic hand touch. Often times You find yourself accepting blind dates, coffee invitations from ppl you have no feelings for..cuz youā€™re so lonely & waiting for the spark between you two that means youā€™ve crossed into sth that could blossom romantically. Personally, This is one of the most relatable feelings in furuba. They date..but the spark never comes. Heā€™s cold..so cold that he might as well be not there. Kana/hatori walk outside, talk together, she only needs two finger faintly touching his sleeve to get his full attention. Mayu/shigure stay inside, each is absorbed individually, heā€™s in a book, sheā€™s watching her crush. she tries for his attention, he doesnā€™t even raise his head from his book. Mayu got the lesson: ā€œI wonā€™t date someone cuz I feel lonely anymore. Itā€™ll only make me lonelierā€.
-Mayuā€™s wish vs Mayuā€™s wish:
Mayuā€™s wish that Kana/hatori be happy is interesting. It isnā€™t only cuz she wants her dear friend to be happy. She genuinely does. But Mayuā€™s wish has a tragic layer to it. She wants them to be happy to prove to herself that she has no chance. that even if she took shigureā€™s advice & tried to break them, she canā€™t. That no matter how she tried she canā€™t have him. cuz sheā€™s not kana. No way, heā€™ll leave kana & choose her. So, please you two be happy, so happy & prove me right for staying away, prove me wrong for daring to wish for him. But her wish fails. Their love ends. It breaks Mayu so much, that she doesnā€™t care for the reason, the outcome of them breaking up is the most tragic thing. She leaves. Kana heals. Kana wishes the most heartbreaking wish of all. ā€œI wish you end up with hatori, mayu, he suits youā€ oh poor Mayuā€™s heart. how devastating it is to hear that?! the woman who went thro a horrible nervous breakdown cuz she loves hatori so much, now wishes him to be with her best friend. The writer is ruthless. I was as tearful as Mayu in that scene.
-The Animeā€™s Trope of ā€œInterfering for a friendā€: (done right!)
When a precious friend/loved one is in a state of deep depression, normally family/friends try to interfere to help. often ppl are too lost to help themselves. But whoever was on that state of depression or have a loved one in that state knows that itā€™s nothing like the movies/dramas make it out to be. It is not ā€œhey friend, do this & that & youā€™ll be happyā€. It is not ā€œhey friend, check into this hospital & be healedā€. It is not ā€œhey friend, take this punch or that kick & this slap, be healed by the magic of healing violenceā€ NO. It is nothing at all like all these shitty climax in films & drama. Itā€™s a process that requires time, patience & above all honesty & frankness. Hatori is going thro depression, but time has done its duty of distancing him frm the core issue (kana), next both Shigure/Ayame talked to him in SE01, lake ep, to let him know that theyā€™re frustrated abt his situation, trying to let him see hope. Then shigure from afar creates an opportunity for hatori. if hatori chooses to grap on, its his call. No force. No violence, No cheap thrills. This is by far my fave aspect abt this ep. The logical & realistic approach to helping someone taking into consideration the reality of his depression & his character. You rally forget this is an anime!!!! Iā€™ve never seen this before! I love to so much! The amount of respect this author has for the charactersā€™ mental state & the logical development of such situation in real life is brilliant!! You donā€™t watch furuba for redundant anime tropes or drama thrills. you watch traumatized characters handled with realistic development & logical progression. Hatori wasnā€™t healed simply cuz he asked Mayu out. Heā€™s walking towards healing by accepting shigureā€™s help. by actually seizing the opportunity his friend offered him. it is just the start for him but we saw glimpses from the future. He made it!
Side Notes:
Shigureā€™s ā€œ he liked you well enoughā€ to Mayu was a true evaluation of Hatoriā€™s feelings at that time. Hatori was in love with Kana. He also liked Mayu cuz kana made sure to gush abt her. Shigureā€™s words are meant to encourage Mayu that youā€™re not a stranger to hatori, you can build sth with him. starts from the friends base & see how things go from that.
I like that they flat out showed us Mayu/hatoriā€™s future together as a couple without ambiguity. sheā€™s in her short hair signalling change. Their story isnā€™t tied by the plot, or anybody. It can be free. It can be happy.
Iā€™m sorry but Mayu cutting her hair is a crime! T_T. That magnificent hair!! All the cute her doā€™s. Itā€™s okay..Iā€™ll be happy once itā€™s yukiā€™s turn to cut his Akitoā€™s-look-alike hair. He deserve it!
I love how the writer didnā€™t put women against each other!! (a)Mayu didnā€™t sell her friendship for a man who didnā€™t love her. (b)kana wasnā€™t insecure in her relationship with hatori that she was eying her female friend all the time. (c)Kagura, before realizing her one-sided love, didnā€™t do anything to tohru despite seeing how much kyo is falling for her!! Kyo falling in love with tohru isnā€™t tohruā€™s fault & kagura didnā€™t hate her for it! (d)tohru herself, despite seeing how toxic kaguraā€™s affection was, didnā€™t actively seek to break them in order to ā€œsaveā€ kyo ! thatā€™s not her duty. Kyo can save himself & kagura can realize her mistake. It is sth they need to do for themselves!! brilliant & unique approach in handling womanā€™s relationship! LOVE IT!
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cielospeaks Ā· 6 years ago
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reasons i left the self shipping if i ever need a reminder of this bs in the future
-the two sided bs of the community. real talk most of the reason ive unfollowed ppl i used to enjoy back in the day (even friends!) is bc it annoys me to see that the same people who gave me heck and never listened to my ā€œhey im uncomfortable by you doing x thing pls stopā€ somehow can respect others but still pulled that same shit on me.
-the constant normalizing? romanticizing? of a ā€œconventionalā€ romantic setting. ie marriage, living together, having 2-3 kids together, and trying to force it on everyone. i see and saw so many bs things abt ā€œwhy doesnt go have a marriage systemā€ whiney bs. maybe some people, some characters, wouldnt fucking want that.
-its more overarcing but the constant feeling that you have to be part of set groups to be part of the community. you have to have a specified preference and stuff. sure, you can say youre fluid but you should consider yourself something. you cant just like whoever you like without that.
-the constant ā€œyour fave loves you too!ā€ ā€œyou are the love of your faveā€™s life!ā€ no im fucking not. im not speaking for them. theyre their own damn people. its not (just) my low self esteem, but not even to forward myself i wouldnt try to decide anyones feelings for them.
-the whole fact abt gushing? i always feel like shit when i do it myself, but i never know how to respond to others doing it. i always just try to add something nice? but when i do it i feel like im just being annoying. i just dont know how to talk to others i guess
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