#i want roy to call wally a wifeguy SO BAD

[mysterycitrus]

Started reading the NTT comics after reading some of your posts about the titans and wow. I finally see how different they are from comics of today. People were not exaggerating when they said their characterizations and relationships were significantly altered

im so glad i inspired u to read ntt!! it’s a foundational series for a reason. marv wolfman is by no means an incredible writer (his terry long crimes shall never be forgiven) and his depictions of wally and dick can be…… questionable, but like u said — when ntt is so influential in modern comics, it sure doesn’t seem like most modern writers have actually read it. raven is a functionally different character in every capacity and only exists to be gar’s goth girlfriend (a dynamic that does not exist in the comics). joey is literally never mentioned. the group dynamics are all wrong. kory + dick are essentially black listed. i miss them!!

the 90s titans series are also worth a read cause there’s a lot more fab 5 interactions, and even then it becomes very stark that so many of their relationships are just fucking absent in the 2020s. where’s the dick+roy+donna trio? roy harpers army of children? wally “wifeguy” west? donnas actual relationships with kyle and cassie and the amazons? garths complicated feelings about fatherhood? it’s such a bummer!

the core 4 generation has it worse in terms of visibility, obviously, but id say that the og titans are so transparently different from where they started that it makes me sad. i want them to hang out and maybe kiss