#i think sometimes i am too deancoded

[angelsdean]

seeing dean takes i disagree with: no, no, no, no, no, no, no. oh, mamma mia, mamma mia, mamma mia, let me go (let me gooooooo)

[finaledenialist]

okay controversial opinion. i know everyone loves baby jack and finds it really cute and admittedly i even get a laugh out of it sometimes but i just. its too much. like its become mainstream headcanon and if u dont like it ur an outlier. i just love jack how he is! i see so many baby jack posts but im happy with regular jack and the relationship to tfw that he already has. also get very sad when ppl cut sam out of the dadsticule :( hes jacks dad too, he was the first of tfw to look out for him (not counting before he was born) and i just think he deserves equal credit as the deancas dads

I get what you mean, sometimes a headcanon becomes so popular that when you don’t agree with it you are pushed to the sidelines, at least that’s how it feels when you see that headcanon everywhere, and I know that feeling quite well :p 

But personally I love baby Jack and the possibilities he brings (and I would pay money to see how the widower arc would actually look like if he didn’t age up immediately) and I think the character deserved to have a happy childhood so I also love the idea of Jack just de-ageing into a toddler in the end so Cas has a chance to be a dad <3 But it’s totally okay to not like it, no one is obligated to like every idea tumblr destiel edu comes up with!

As for Sam, I think I will give you even a more controversial thought because as much as I am not a Sam girl, one thing is true (ohhhhh I am going to be crucified for that): he is not only as much of a dad to Jack like Cas and Dean, like you said. He is more. He doesn’t deserve equal credit as Dean - he deserves more than Dean (and i am saying this as someone who doesn’t really care about sam but you have to give it to him because it’s true). Sam was the first one to care about Jack when Dean was grieving and defended Jack from Dean’s anger. Even in season 15 Dean says ‘Jack is not family’ and ashjfgshdh no matter if you blame it on Chuck or the writers, fact remains that Sam never said anything like that about him. If anything, Cas is Dad #1, Sam is Dad #2 and Dean is the alcoholic uncle (and I say it as a terminally deancoded person).

(send me your unpopular/controversial spn take  👀) 

[glitter-dean-rights]

So, what do ya reckon Orville's SPNsona is(/spn kin)..?

part2: "like who from spn he kins? maybe he's self-inserting into the fic.., does that make sense? Im so serious about this, btw, love ur desktop theme <3"

OKAY FIRST OF ALL this is so far up my alley i cant even begin to process it!!! also hiiiiii thank you this is very sweet i keep fucking up the colors and it needs some emotional support but tyyyyyy <33

i hope ur ready for me to take this SO seriously !!!

i think the question is fair but orville peck like kinda isnt a person? hes the concept of a person like he doesnt exist like he ~does~ and you can figure out stuff from his songs but like also what is he doing what does he want ya know hes kinda like a straw man of audience projections which is ALSO what dean is basically

like they both sorta exist as vessels (lol) for people to like understand or interpret their art where like orville is very much like all about mystery man focus on the emotions and the music and dean is much more like the lens of the story of supernatural like everything (esp in later seasons) is like filtered through how HE feels (a lot of people have said this a lot better than i but they are correct and i am agreeing) so i think there's an obvious parallel there. Also dean would be so horny for cowboy orville sorry not related but its simply true

ok so like i guess the question becomes kinda like two parts for me like 1: what songs lyrics make me go bananasinsanecrazy when applied to supernatural and 2: which aspects of orvilles fake person outlines would different characters of supernatural apply themselves to WHICH is a very fun question to answer so hi gonna answer them both in a way that makes no sense

i think like the like obvious is like hes hot he gets kicked out of bars hes sad he wants to have a home he misses a home that doesnt exist nobody ever sees his real face he knows his way around a truck stop hes lonely hes gay he believes in the imagery of taillights in the distance and like slow dancing in a dusty bar on the side of the road he just wants someone to stay hes full of emotion but you cant tell he wants to be a cowboy he wants to not be attached hes so full of emotion hes gonna burst (also im sorry but "buddy we've got major blues/another suitcase in your hand" like hello "wouldnt it be nice if i could sleep in my own bed/wouldnt it be nice if i could let the dead stay dead/wouldnt it be swell if i could get things off my chest" HELLO sorry im adding question 1 into my answer also if u think too hard about fancy u might get a brain anneurism so dont do that i know its a cover miss reba really did something with that also winds change dead of night god dont even get me started sorry i keep adding to this but listen to blush sometime and think dean thoughts "fishermans son my dad liked to run/cant picture ur face but i know it was pretty" theres SO MANY) very deancoded it must be said

BUT ALSO if u think too hard about castiel and drive me crazy u will get brain worms confirmed also kalahari down "on your daddys farm/you say your afraid, tell me not to frown" unwell BUT THE KICKER if you ever want to lose all ur braincells listen up buddy lets go heres the thing "back on the run/back to the blue/winning is fun/losing is too" roses are falling guaranteed breakdown "the ache inside/the hate/i found a way/to sit and wait/and now i cant/your voice/your face/without a trace/ill wait for you" LIKE HELLO going insane does anyone want anything

idk im sure sam has like feelings and stuff too but ill be honest i dont care asdkjfhsdk (no not really like i love sam my weird little 'maybe theres something fundamentally wrong with me' boy but i have no lyrics that make me want to gnaw on glass like they do with some other people but like turn to hate maybe if u wanna go a little insane "take me back to the time i was yours you were mine/take me back to the world i know" he said i just want to be normal i miss the love of my life im undone "i hope to die" like hello trials arc im trying not to let the sorrow turn to hate i see it) ((could this also be applied to dean yes but we're gonna let sammy keep some personality traits)) (((also must be noted that maybe orville is not the man for sam)))

[angelsdean]

My way of dealing w the "autonomy" flavor deancrits is to take a deep breath and remind myself that they are probably still living w (possibly v controlling) parents & projecting their own issues. It's the most plausible reason i think why someone would blow this whole autonomy debate so out of proportion, if they struggle w things like that and so they blindly sympathize w Sam's subjective view w/out thinking much abt it. Not to overanalyze, i'm just trying to find logical reasons, it calms me.

yea i totally get that. i think a lot of times projection is an issue when people seem to be completely ignoring and misinterpreting aspects of the text. like of course we'll all bring some of our own feelings and biases and experiences when we engage with any media, but it's something i'm always aware of and actively working against letting those things color my interpretations. i think it also has to do w/ my background in literally getting a degree in literary analysis so like, i'm bringing all that to the table too. but it's funny tho to me bc *i* am also living w/ a pretty controlling parent bc of circumstances. and STILL *i* can see the nuance and not project my own feelings onto sam. maybe it's bc i'm just so deancoded in other aspects that i just don't relate to sam all that much despite feeling sometimes frustrated at my own situation. but still. it's not like i can't empathize with sam, and also see how his situation is different and not project things onto him and not cast dean into the role of "controlling parent." idk i just think people need to learn better media literacy and media analysis skills and also like, take themselves out of the equation and be more objective when it comes to character analysis.

but anyways, yea i'm sure you're right and many people who relate to sam's autonomy issues (and keep pressing that argument from a deancrit perspective) probably are coming to the argument with their own experiences coloring their perceptions of the text.