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solovelyanddry · 1 year ago

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A Case For Bottom Oliver Quick

To start, let's establish some terms - a top is the penetrating partner in anal sex and a bottom is the receptive partner. These terms are descriptive - they are not personality traits or strict categories. You can be a submissive top or a dominant bottom, which brings us to the case of one Oliver Quick and his night with Farleigh.

Let's first start with this:

Oliver is offering to let Farleigh fuck him (i.e., let Farleigh top him).

Later that night, Oliver surprises Farleigh in his room, straddling the larger man around his upper waist so they can see face-to-face (remember Farleigh/Archie is about 9 inches taller than Oliver/Barry). Note that Oliver is wearing an undershirt in this scene.

Oliver asks Farleigh if he is going to behave and then reaches behind him with his left arm, going under Farleigh's sheet. Notice the top of the sheet is behind Oliver's butt.

Oliver is clearing doing something to Farleigh's dick here, as we can hear the sheet continue to rustle and "Farleigh moans softly." Like in the vampire scene with Venetia, he is asserting dominance by providing the other person with pleasure.

"Are you going to behave?" Nnooo." Farleigh looks down between him and Oliver to whatever is happening under the sheet. "I'm going to behave," followed by more moaning and rustling. At this point, having triumphed, Oliver does something new, as Farleigh asks, "What the fuck?"

The lube spit enters the scene! After reaching back with his left hand, Oliver, who has maintained a steady posture during this whole encounter, tips his head back and up slightly. His expression changes slightly, and whatever he is doing become more vigorous as the bed creaks.

Oliver's face turns to one of pleasure as he inserts Farleigh into him. Farleigh, for his part, tries eating Oliver's chin. Studying Oli's neck seems to indicate that he is slightly arching his back.

Finally, in the two scenes we see of the events that immediately follow this encounter Oliver is (at least) shirtless (framing Farleigh for trying to sell the Palissy plates) and naked (back in his own bed in the morning). If he's worried about the maids reporting back to Elspeth, bottoming would make a bigger mess on the underclothes that he was wearing and would necessitate stripping down once he gets back to his own room.

Again, while I mentioned that bottoming isn't a personality trait, it fits with his theme of consumption throughout the film. He is taking the family into himself, presenting himself as something that is thought of as submissive while really being the one in control.

#oliver quick #farleigh start #quickstart #saltburn #saltburn spoilers #i do have thoughts about oliver's sexuality too #i think he's much closer to a kinsey 4 or 5 #and i think most of the cattons think he is just gay

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olderthannetfic · 4 years ago

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#oh man i gotta find the post before this one i wanna see those statistics#in any case thank god for ao3#q

You mean my vague comment about stats? I was referring to human sexuality research stats, which I don't think anyone has actually linked to on anything I've reblogged lately.

Wikipedia actually has a fairly decent overview in Demographics of Sexual Orientation:

Surveys in Western cultures find, on average, that about 93% of men and 87% of women identify as completely heterosexual, 4% of men and 10% of women as mostly heterosexual, 0.5% of men and 1% of women as evenly bisexual, 0.5% of men and 0.5% of women as mostly homosexual, and 2% of men and 0.5% of women as completely homosexual.[1] An analysis of 67 studies found that the lifetime prevalence of sex between men (regardless of orientation) was 3-5% for East Asia, 6-12% for South and South East Asia, 6-15% for Eastern Europe, and 6-20% for Latin America.[4] The International HIV/AIDS Alliance estimates a worldwide prevalence of men who have sex with men between 3 and 16%.[5]

I've often seen something closer to 4% quoted from various US studies, which is what I was vaguely alluding to, though it looks like the broad consensus is a bit different.

Part of my point is that the 10% statistic is complete nonsense. It was never an estimate of what percentage of people self-ID as gay or gay and bi/pan/etc., which is what it tends to get used as when people quote it.

A Washington Post article from 2011 explains the origin:

Back in the 1960s, pioneering gay activists found an obscure passage from a 1948 book written by prominent sex researcher Alfred Kinsey that read, “10 percent of the males are more or less exclusively homosexual . . . for at least three years between the ages of 16 and 55.” They used that quote to claim that 10 percent of the population was gay, even though Kinsey’s study was not designed to make a population-based estimate.

Kinsey was talking about a sample that had a lot of guys in prison or involved in sex work. It was very much not a random sample of everyone, and he wasn't even talking about a life-long pattern or about using an identity term for oneself. He was just talking about them only boning dudes for at least 3 years.

Here's Gallup from this year (i.e. a reasonable trustworthy source for stats). Here are the relevant graphs:

Or if you were thinking about fanfic archive stats, the best I've produced is this, which should be more or less accurate for the fall of 2020.

(Multi+other = everything that's arguably that, including all fics marked as m/m and also f/m or m/m/f or whatever. Fics with one major m/m ship and one major f/m ship are basically nonexistent on FFN and Wattpad, so it didn't make sense to separate out all the various more-than-one-ship-type tagged AO3 fics into their own slices.)

If you mean the study that shows that men think women are "dominating the conversation" when we make up 30%+, I think the thing we're citing is actually a bit dodgy on the methodology now that I look into it (though still broadly correct about how men misperceive women's speech). Here's a rundown of where that stat came from and who else has researched it.

https://allthingslinguistic.com/post/145374253955/do-women-talk-too-much-hint-science-says-no

Some tags that amused me.

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jasoningram · 4 years ago

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cynicinafishbowl · 7 years ago

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How would you write your fic if it was set in the Regency era?

I’ve already said some things about this fic in the answer to an earlier ask about a fic which was in the planning stages (which I think you may have asked...) but here’s some new stuff!

If the fic is set during the Regency, then Lord Tristan does not have the luxury of not engaging with society’s monogamist relationship narrative. He has a responsibility to perpetuate the line. He would, as such, be looking to make a marriage of convenience.

Fitzminor, being a good lad, is always on the vague low-level lookout for suitable ladies. This is complicated by the fact that Tristan doesn’t just want some accomplished lady of the haute ton. He has no need for someone fluent in all of the Romance languages, he’s looking for a lady who can discuss the Classics with him. Classics, unfortunately, don’t seem to have been on the curriculum at most of the schools for young ladies, much to everyone’s general disappointment.

He happens upon Mary (who is visiting her sister Mrs Darcy - a regency version of the fic is more of a continuation rather than an alternate universe), and while he finds her intriguing (whereas Lizzie was all light-hearted wit, Mary is more ascerbic), and wouldn’t mind courting her a bit, the whole ‘younger sister eloping with a redcoat’ thing is still fresh enough that she Will Not Engage With A Redcoat as she desperately tries to convince herself that she doesn’t have the family weakness for men in uniform. He does, however, write to his brother and suggest that maybe it would be an idea for him not to claim ‘estate responsibilities’ in order to avoid the Easter trip to Rosings.

He meets Mary, one thing leads to another, and they have a very in-depth argument about book 4 of the Aeneid while Lady Catherine prattles on in the background about it being unseemly for ladies to be too educated (she does not at all approve of Mary’s swottish tendencies).

Following various events which I am yet to work out the chronology of, they get married. Mary is quite aware of her husband’s proclivities, but at a certain point, he’s terrible fun to talk to and has a library filled with the more homoerotic texts, and also she’s going to be a Countess, so you know what? She’ll manage.

Cue a SURPRISINGLY SPICY wedding night between Mary and Lord Tristan, who it would appear is closer to a Kinsey 4 or 5 than a 6. Colonel Fitzwilliam doesn’t have time to pine, because Napoleon has just done the thing again and he needs to return to the Continent.

Cue UNFORTUNATE TRAGIC DEATH OF LORD TRISTAN BEFORE OFFSPRING ARE BEGOTTEN. Alternately, UNFORTUNATE TRAGIC DEATH OF LORD TRISTAN AFTER AN OFFSPRING IS CONCIEVED, WHICH LATER TURNS OUT TO BE A GIRL-CHILD. I am yet to decide which. Either way, the succession is not secured.

Colonel Fitzwilliam returns from Waterloo short of part of a leg (unfortunate - something something bullet fragments, something something nobody likes sepsis), to Mary who is in mourning for the husband whom she came to love, and he finds that his feelings DID NOT COOL while he was on campaign.

Much pining ensues. The first season in London after Mary is out of mourning, she is BESET by suitors, because she’s a dowager countess who was rather well looked after by the marriage articles, and Jane Austen mentions that Mr Bennet had five good-looking daughters, so we can assume that she’s not a complete munter. Fitzwilliam ends up stammering his way through a vague offer of marriage and Mary absolutely cracks up, thinking that it was a joke. LOL NOT A JOKE. Various other yet to be plotted out stuff happens, and then they get married and live happily ever after.

MAIN CHANGES OTHERWISE:

Caroline Bingley, when Darcy is taken off the table, marries some American real estate magnate. Thus she exits the narrative.

Henry Crawford is a solid Kinsey 3 who was rather well acquainted with Lord Tristan (if you catch my drift) and who is later one of the Dowager Countess Mary’s various suitors.

I am yet to decide whether or not I can fit Cynthia into the narrative.

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fawneverwould · 7 years ago

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PHYSICAL !!

1. Describe the character’s height and build. Is she heavyset, thin, short, rangy? I’d say average. She’s 5′5. 2. How old is she? Sixteen. 3. Describe her posture. Does she carry herself well or does she slouch? She carries herself pretty well. 4. How is her health? Is she fit or out of shape? Any illnesses or conditions? Any physical disabilities? She’s in decent shape, no disabilities. 5. How does she move? Is she clumsy, graceful, tense, fluid? Pretty graceful and softly. 6. How attractive is this character physically? How does she perceive herself in the mirror? She’s very pretty, I think. She thinks of herself as average. 7. Describe her complexion. Dark, light, clear, scarred? Light and clear. 8. Describe her hair: color, texture, style. Wavy. It falls a little past her waist, an orange-brown color. She considers herself a redhead even though her hair is more naturally brown. (Shh, don’t tell anyone.) It looks like this or this but a bit longer. 9. What color are her eyes? Amber. 10. Does the character have any other noteworthy features? A light dusting of freckles. 11. What are her chief tension centers? Her neck. 12. What is the character’s wardrobe like? Casual, dressy, utilitarian? Bright colors, pastels, neutrals? Is it varied, or does she have six of the same suit? She dresses in a lot of warm colors. Pretty casual. She likes sweaters, boots, leggings, jeans best -- but in California she obviously doesn’t get to rock those much.***** 13. Do her clothes fit well? Does she seem comfortable in them? She likes slightly oversized shirts sometimes. But for the most part, yes. 14. Does she dress the same on the job as she does in her free time? If not, what are the differences? She has to wear her high school uniform but she wears what she wants to volunteer in or on a usual basis. 15. You knew it was coming: Boxers, briefs or commando? Briefs. Sometimes boxers.

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1. What does this character’s voice sound like? High-pitched, deep, hoarse? A tiny bit raspy. Sweet but mature. Soft. I mostly hear Debby Ryan* with a bit of Fawn* in my mind. 2. How does she normally speak? Loud, soft, fast, evenly? Does she talk easily, or does she hesitate? Soft, evenly, easy. She gets to rambling excitedly sometimes and talks faster or louder. 3. Does the character have a distinct accent or dialect? Any individual quirks of pronunciation? Any, like, you know, verbal tics? None that I can think of. 4. What languages does she speak, and with how much fluency? English fluently. 5. Does she switch languages or dialects in certain situations? Nah. 6. Is she a good impromptu speaker, or does she have to think about her words? She is okay at impromptu. 7. Is she eloquent or inarticulate? Under what circumstances might this change? I’d say closer to eloquent. Less so when she’s feeling hyper/eager.

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1. How intelligent is this character? Is she book-smart or street-smart? Fairly intelligent. A mixture of both. 2. Does she think on her feet, or does she need time to deliberate? She thinks on her feet. It gets her in trouble. 3. Describe the character’s thought process. Is she more logical, or more intuitive? Idealistic or practical? Intuitive but she can come up with some good ideas. It depends on the situation. 4. What kind of education has the character had? She’s a junior so that’s it as of now. 5. What are her areas of expertise? What, if anything, is she interested in learning more about? Anything that comes to animals. Especially pets or woodland creatures. She’s thinking about looking into veterinary practice. 6. Is she an introvert or an extrovert? Extrovert. 7. Describe the character’s temperament. Is she even-tempered or does she have mood swings? Cheerful or melancholy? Laid-back or driven? She is fairly even-tempered and usually happy. If she learns of an injustice, that’s a different story. Cheerful and driven. But also laid-back at the same time...? 8. How does she respond to new people or situations? Is she suspicious, relaxed, timid, enthusiastic? Enthusiastic. 10. Which is her default: fight or flight? She doesn’t back down. 11. Describe the character’s sense of humor. Does she appreciate jokes? Puns? Gallows humor? Bathroom humor? Pranks? Pranks, for sure, but she isn’t picky about what makes her laugh. She loves jokes. 12. Does the character have any diagnosable mental disorders? If yes, how does she deal with them? She doesn’t have any. 13. What moments in this character’s life have defined her as a person? I’m not sure that any specific moments have changed who she is. She’s always been a passionate, nurturing, rebellious person. 14. What does she fear? Not being able to make a difference. 15. What are her hopes or aspirations? To make a difference, and own as many pets as possible. 16. What is something she doesn’t want anyone to find out about her? Fawn is a pretty open book. She isn’t keeping any secrets.

RELATIONSHIPS !!

1. Describe this character’s relationship with her parents. Fawn has always had a good relationship with her parents. She’s been daddy’s little girl from day one, as a child she was almost always in his arms. She is a lot like her mother. Both of them love, support and accept her the way that parents should and they are proud of her for being someone that takes a stand. They are what she misses the most about home, other than her fur babies. She doesn’t blame them for sending her away, their hands were tied, she just hopes they know she loves them the same. 2. Does the character have any siblings? What is/was their relationship like? No, and she’s happy with her life how it is -- she’s the center of her parents’ worlds this way. But it might’ve been cool to have a brother or sister to torment with pranks and braid her hair for her. 3. Are there other blood relatives to whom she is close? Are there ones she can’t stand? She doesn’t see her mom’s family much. She has a lot of uncles, aunts and cousins on her dad’s side. They come around for holidays so just a few times throughout the year, but she loves all of them. 4. Are there other, unrelated people whom she considers part of her family? What are her relationships with them? The Pixie Hollow girls are her sisters. 5. Who is the character’s best friend? How did they meet? Tink, Vidia, Iridessa, (probably Rosetta) and Silvermist, obviously. Also Oliver is a pure bean that she adores. She met them all at Walt. 6. Does she have other close friends? Does ‘every animal she meets’ count? 7. Does she make friends easily, or does she have trouble getting along with people? She makes friends easily. 8. Which does she consider more important: family or friends? Both. 9. Is the character single, married, divorced, widowed? Has she been married more than once? She is single. The only boyfriend/husband she had was in elementary school when the kids paired off. 10. Is she currently in a romantic relationship with someone other than a spouse? She is not. 11. Who was her first crush? Who is her latest? She’s not crushing on anyone as of late, and I don’t think she’s had very many lasting crushes in her life. She might see a boy holding a puppy and think “wow he’s cute” but then she gets distracted by the puppy and forgets he’s there. 12. What does she look for in a romantic partner? An animal lover. It is very important that the person she’s with cares about having pets and lots of them. If not, it is not going to work. Sorry. Other than that she only wants to have feelings for the person and for them to be reciprocated. 13. Does the character have children? Grandchildren? If yes, how does she relate to them? If no, does she want any? She doesn’t, but she’d love to be a mom one day! 14. Does she have any rivals or enemies? Not anyone right now. 15. What is the character’s sexual orientation? Where does she fall on the Kinsey scale? She is most likely heterosexual. A zero or a one. She would never be against being with someone solely because of gender but she’s only ever been attracted to/crushed on males. 16. How does she feel about sex? How important is it to her? She isn’t ready for sex right now. She’s only sixteen and she has no love interest. It isn’t something she thinks about all that much. She will worry about it when she’s in a relationship -- a long term relationship -- and she feels safe and comfortable with someone and wants to take that next step. 17. What are her turn-ons? Turn-offs? Weird bedroom habits? Heck if she knows.

BELIEFS !!

1. Do you know your character’s astrological (zodiac of choice) sign? How well does she fit type? She’s an October baby, born on the third, so she’s a Libra. I think there are other signs that would fit her better. 2. Is this character religious, spiritual, both, or neither? How important are these elements in her life? She’s Christian. She used to go to church on Sundays and the occasional Wednesday back at home, but she was shushed a lot for talking during service and for awhile known as the girl that chased a rat throughout the pews. It’s important to her to believe there is a God and an afterlife but if she’s being honest, she’s never read the bible and she has no immediate plans to. 3. Does this character have a personal code of morals or ethics? If so, how did that begin? What would it take to compromise it? Help those that cannot help themself. Be kind. Live your own life. I don’t think anything could change those. 4. How does she regard beliefs that differ from hers? Is she tolerant, intolerant, curious, indifferent? As long as those beliefs aren’t hurting people, she’s tolerant and curious. 5. What prejudices does she hold? Are they irrational or does she have a good reason for them? She’s prejudice against people that do not like any kind of animal. How can someone not like animals?

DAILY LIFE !!

1. What is the character’s financial situation? Is she rich, poor, comfortable, in debt? Average. Her family gets by. 2. What is her social status? Has this changed over time, and if so, how has the change affected her? She’s not necessarily popular but she is friendly and outgoing. She has never had to worry about where to eat lunch or who to walk with in the halls, here or at her old school. 3. Where does she live? House, apartment, trailer? Is her home her castle or just a place to crash? What condition is it in? Does she share it with others? Her dorm, and she has decorated it in warm colors with photos of pets and family and she has those little lights strung around her bed and it’s all organized and cozy and cute. She loves it. I love it. The dorm of my dreams. 4. Besides the basic necessities, what does she spend her money on? Helping animals in need. 5. What does she do for a living? Is she good at it? Does she enjoy it, or would she rather be doing something else? She’s a student right now. She’s good at some classes, others not so much, but she does more than enough to get by. When she isn’t doodling cat faces all over her test pages. 6. What are her interests or hobbies? How does she spend her free time? She likes to volunteer at animal shelters. She enjoys reading and decorating, doodling. But for the most part if she’s got free time on her hands, she’s going to be outside climbing trees and talking to birds. 7. What are her eating habits? Does she skip meals, eat out, drink alcohol, avoid certain foods? I think she has average eating habits. She probably eats healthier than most teenagers, opting for fruit over candy bars on a normal basis and snacking on veggie straws over chips. She doesn’t drink alcohol. Most of her meals she either makes herself because they are simple or orders from town.

ASSOCIATIONS !!

1. Color? Orange. 2. Smell? Puppy breath. 3. Time of day? She’s a morning girl. 4. Season? Spring. But she’s partial to Fall too. 5. Book? Because Of Winn-Dixie. 6. Music? Alternative rock, indie pop, she isn’t picky. 7. Place? She’s a Georgia girl at heart. 8. Substance? Lemonade. 9. Plant? Sunflowers. 10. Animal? All of them.

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