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jacquelinemerritt · 2 years ago
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Dragonball Z: Abridged Episode 3 Review
Originally posted August 10th, 2015
When god is a dick, things can be pretty fun.
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“Happily Ever Afterlife” is one of the unfortunate “intermediate” episodes of Dragonball Z: Abridged, which is to say, it’s an episode that is required to exist, so that there are no gaps in the story, but beyond filling in the details between plot point A and plot point B, it doesn’t actually advance the story by any significant degree. As a result, the pace of the story in this episode is very slow and meandering, which would be fine, if Team Four Star were good at telling slower stories. But, at this time, Team Four Star’s strengths lay in frenetic pacing and joke-a-second comedy; they are at their weakest when the story demands to be told at a slower pace, and unfortunately, “Afterlife” requires them to slow down.
That’s not to say this episode is without its strengths. King Yemma, in fact, is the strongest part of this episode; his devil-may-care attitude and lack of respect for Goku and Kami lead to this episode’s funniest moments, as Kami is forced to invoke his status as Guardian of Earth in order to get Yemma to allow Goku to travel to King Kai (while simultaneously serving as effective exposition for who this other Namekian is and why he’s important). Of course, Goku must travel along the apparently ominous Snake Way to get there, so even in his concession, Yemma refuses to be actively helpful.
Back on earth, Krillin is responsible for delivering the news of Goku’s death and Gohan’s kidnapping to Chi Chi, who responds with appropriate rage. This is where the episode is at its most inconsequential, as it doesn’t feel like it serves much more of a purpose than to delay Krillin from gathering the “Z Warriors” (a name that is thankfully never mentioned again), and to feed into the harmful characterization of Chi Chi as a “crazy bitch.” This is a common interpretation of Chi Chi that even Toriyama feeds into most of the time, but it’s incredibly harmful, because Chi Chi not wanting Gohan to be in danger (or kidnapped) is entirely reasonable. He’s only five years old, after all, and any mother would be completely within her right to not want her five-year-old son to be involved in deadly battles for the fate of the world.
Gohan and Piccolo also get some time together in this episode, and their relationship is developed for the first time. While we only get a brief scene with the two of them, it’s the part of the episode with the most substance; Piccolo wants to train Gohan for entirely selfish reasons, but he quickly discovers that Gohan is actively suppressing his natural talent for fighting in favor of focusing on more intellectual pursuits. It also leads to a pretty hilarious moment where Gohan calls out Piccolo for wanting to train a five-year-old to fight, since doing so would (according to science) cause his body irreparable harm. It doesn’t hurt that MasakoX (Gohan) and Lanipator (Piccolo) have both already sunk very comfortably into their characters, leaving this short scene as the best acted and written scene of the episode.
Rating: 3.5/5
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Stray Observations
1We know Snake Way is ominous because ominous music is played after it is mentioned, a type of joke that is thankfully retired soon.
Yemma: “I do have a desk though. It’s made of mahogany. Mahogany.”
Gohan: “Actually that looks more like a plateau!”
Yemma: “And not just any mahogany, but mahogany from the planet Malchior 7, where the trees are over three hundred feet tall and breathe fire!”
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duhragonball · 5 years ago
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Gonna take a minute and pour one out for Dragon Ball Z Abridged.  
I feel bad for Team Four Star, because the series actually ended in 2018, when they published the epilogue to Episode 60, and they seemed kind of uncertain about whether they’d continue or not.   The final moments of Episode 60 had a teaser for “Season 4″ (the Buu Arc), which was supposed to be this big confirmation that they were really going to go through with it after all.  
But almost immediately after that, they started trying to manage fans’ expectations, talking about doing S4 differently, and releasing the episodes in a different timetable, and probably nothing would actually happen until 2020 or 2021.   All I really expected was their treatment of Movie 9 (the Bojack one), since that was next in line, and they seemed fairly confident in their ability to tackle that one movie.   
Then came the announcement in 2019 that Bojack wasn’t going well, and then they postponed Movie 9 indefinitely, and now here we are.   I feel bad for these guys because they clearly regret that it took them this long to finally admit that they couldn’t go on.    Copyright issues are the main logistical reason for ending the series.    They’re not a fan group anymore, they’ve been a business for years, and they can’t afford to have their YouTube channel taken down over a show full of IP they don’t own.    But that was an issue three years ago.    The bigger problem is burnout.   
I’ve experienced this before myself, and I could kind of sense it from TFS when Lani talked about how hard a time they were having doing the Bojack parody.   They spoke of Bojack Unbound like it was just so impossible to get a good script going, and maybe it is a tough nut to crack, but I just couldn’t help but wonder if the movie was really the trouble.    They had several months away from DBZA, only to come back to it and have an even harder time writing new stuff for it.   And yet they didn’t want to give up, because it should have been a fresh start, and yet it just wouldn’t come together.   
Some naive part of me hopes that they’ll get their groove back and tackle Season 4 one of these years, but I’ve already kind of made peace with it never becoming a reality.   I’m more worried for the fate of TFS’ other projects, which I keep hearing about, but I never seem to see.    My fear is that their burnout goes beyond DBZA, and they just haven’t realized it yet.   I hope not, because they’ve got this murderer’s row of creative talent, and I’m totally cool with following their original stuff.   
I guess what I’m really concerned about is that this could happen to me some day.   Well, like I said, it already happened to me once, but it was more of a professional burnout, and once I changed jobs and got back on track, I was fine again.   I had my internet presence to fall back on as a refuge.    They say if you do what you love you’ll never work a day in your life, but that kind of sounds like putting all your eggs in one basket.    I like to write, and I draw stuff once or twice a decade, but if that was my job, it would be sheer hell trying to force myself through a period where I just didn’t feel creative.   I’ve watched a few TFS videos where I get the sense that there’s been some periods of low morale, where they have this whole brick-and-mortar building where they have to play video games and be funny for a living and they just don’t feel it.    And when that happens, where do you go from there?   I hope Team Four Star can find an answer.  
Anyway, I discovered DBZA back in the fall of 2010, when I was somewhere in Month 2 of a four-month unemployment.    There’s some other hard times I’ve been through where looking forward to their next episode helped me get through it, but... I don’t know, burning through those first dozen episodes in 2010 seems to stick out for me.    I just liked that there was something new in the fandom.    Before 2010, I couldn’t really tell that there was a DBZ fandom at all, so it was a relief to see people who were even more passionate about it than I was.   I just really needed to see that at the time.   I know there’s other DBZ fans who think Abridged is dumb or jumped the shark a long time ago, but the point is that I probably wouldn’t even be aware of those folks without DBZA.    So I’m grateful for that.   
I’m also grateful for this.    TFS may not have made it to Bojack and Buu, but they got Perfect Cell sworn in as the mayor of Sassy City, Sassyland.
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slothcritic · 5 years ago
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Dragon Ball Z Abridged - Episode 10 Review
A satisfying conclusion with plenty of jabs, jibs and a ghost whatnow?
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While The Punchline has been split up into three parts, I will be reviewing and judging all three parts as a single episode within a single review. I will be giving out scores for each part just for posterity however, but only the overall score will be considered this episode’s actual rating.
In the cold open, Vegeta is absolutely thrilled over snapping Nappa out of existence, and Goku asks Krillin and Gohan to retreat while he deals with Vegeta. Krillin is already gone, screaming and crying. Gohan and Goku have a brief conversation about putting dinner on, because he's hungry. There might be some reference I'm not getting here, or if it's really just a face-value scene, but I think it would've been funnier if the title sequence had begun just after Krillin is shown running (flying) away to safety.
[Title Sequence, Part 1]
Goku and Vegeta opt to find a new battlefield, as the one where Nappa decimated the Z Fighters is a little "corpsey." King Kai starts taking bets on which of them is going to win, and even the Narrator tries to get in on that, despite already knowing the outcome.
The delivery on Vegeta's lines early on is not promising. I'm not sure if it's poor audio quality caused by a crappy microphone or if Lanipator was struggling with some kind of throat infection while recording these lines, but it's noticeable as there's a long extended conversation with a voice that sounds like sandpaper to the ears. I actually went back to check on the previous episodes to see if I was taking crazy pills, and no, Vegeta sounded just fine before. I have no idea what the reason or cause of this change might be, whether it was a deliberately different delivery or if they were rushing to put this episode out, but Vegeta sounds consistently more raspy in this episode than the gravelly deadpan to which I've become accustomed. For all I know, yelling as Vegeta might just by taxing on his vocal chords.
Putting the voice issue aside, Goku's oblivious lack of understanding for the word "elite" and the back and forth between the two of them works on the whole as a great scene.
"I'm going to start beating you now. I don't know when I'll stop."
I can't remember whether or not that's a reference, but I love the delivery on it. Vegeta has just finished dealing with Nappa and now has absolutely zero patience for someone just as braindead.
Sure enough, after being taunted about a cave full of gumdrops and ice cream, Vegeta drops the "That's it! EVERYONE DIES!" which might be one of my favorite things said in this episode, but it’s followed closely by:
"Say goodbye to your planet, Kakarot." "Well that's not very nice." "OF COURSE NOT! I'M FUCKING EVIL!"
The dynamic here works astoundingly well. It's very different from Vegeta and Nappa's duo, but works on similar foundations. With Vegeta and Nappa, Nappa was the ridiculous one and Vegeta served as his anchor. With Vegeta and Goku, the roles are flipped and Vegeta is now the ridiculous one, screaming his head off in frustration and writhing around in the death throes of his pride, while Goku's complete obliviousness and innocence keeping him grounded as the anchor. Nappa was purposefully annoying because he was a bratty, childish mook, while Goku is just annoying by happenstance and being very, very hard to put down. It doesn't help that Vegeta actually wants to kill Goku, and unlike Nappa, he's having less than success with this one.
The overall production of the climatic beam struggle is surprisingly well executed, and is perhaps the best moment in this entire episode from a technical perspective. Goku speaking as he charges up the Kamehameha doesn't sound cheesy, canned or forced, and neither does Vegeta's delivery. The sound effects and music are also on point here. This is an important moment in the series and I'm glad they got it just right. I have no objections with anything here.
If anything, at about five and a half minutes in, the viewer has had enough time to adjust to Vegeta's new raspier voice and it no longer seems out of place. If he had been speaking "normally" up until this point, I probably would have criticized the delivery on these lines, but it almost feels like it fits on the whole now that this has been established as the "new normal" for the last five minutes. The main point I'm attempting and probably failing at making is that my original complaint was that the new voice took me out of the episode, but in this moment with the beam struggle, Vegeta's voice flows naturally and I honestly wouldn't have noticed it if I hadn't just (as of now) dedicated two whole paragraphs of this review to JUST talking about how Vegeta sounds slightly different now.
Alright, now it's time to back up a tad, which isn't something I like to do a lot. Twice in this episode, Goku has used the Kaio-Ken and then the Kaio-Ken times three. The first time he used it, he seemed to at least match Vegeta. The second time he used it, he jobbed Vegeta straight into a rocky wall. But it's only good for a few seconds, so it has no sustain. It's essentially one really strong punch or a really quick beat down, but leaves Goku winded and struggling at the end of it.
The reason I didn't bring these up as they happened was because frankly the scenes didn't do enough for me to write about it. I write about what I feel is significant to my review to give context or explanation to my thought process, not to give a play by play. Simply put, they were funny, but nothing notable happened because of it. It was a quick skit, okay, move on. But it's now important to draw attention to those two moments, because while they did very little for me the first two times... Well, during this beam struggle, just as Vegeta feels like he’s gaining the upper hand, the dramatic music quiets to nothing but the sounds of the beams clashing, and all we hear is...
"Kaio-Ken..." Vegeta look on in horror.  "...No..." "Times..." "No no no..." "FOUR!"
Vegeta is sent skyward with a loud FFFFUUUUUU- and then twinkles like Team Rocket just blasted off again. Goku is the victor... of this fight at least.
Then there's an odd cutaway back to Roshi's island that's slow to start, but eventually got me to smile. It's all the characters from Dragon Ball reminiscing of times where they used to be relevant to the story. Guest appearance by Baba who almost doesn't appear in Z at all!
It initially felt like a bit of tone whiplash but it warmed up to me. And "Whatever happened to Launch?" actually got a laugh out of me. Seems like Toriyama isn't the only person who forgot about her.
I'm not sure what the point of this scene was, but I agree with the decision that after that climax, a break or calming down period in the tension it had built up was definitely necessary, even if the transition felt a little jarring at first.
"Meanwhile, back at the plot", which is an amazing segue, Vegeta gets off Mr Goku's Wild Ride and the beam continues on without him into the pink sky.
I don't think -UUUUUUCK! counts as an F-Bomb so it doesn't get censored. Booyah!
Vegeta then undergoes a post ass-kicking identity crisis. After devising a plan to turn into the mighty Ozaru, he then undergoes a where's-the-damned-moon crisis.
Good thing Blutz Waves are a thing. He yeets the artificial moon into the sky and boom, King Kong. The other King K attempts to coach Goku through dealing with this beast (that is canonically stronger than Captain Ginyu at this point) and advises Goku to find a safe, secluded location to charge up the Spirit Bomb.
Goku however decides to do it right out in the open. Just as Ape Vegeta's massive fist obliterates Goku, King Kai's crystal ball turns to static and gets the operator disconnected message. I think a dial tone would've been slightly funnier, but this has the same energy so I'll take it with no complaints. An excellent way to end the first part of this episode!
[Part 2]
This part begins with Goku hitting a rock so hard he thinks he's in Dragonball Evolution for a moment. After blinding Vegeta with a solar flare, which I'm still not entirely sure how that works or why people don't use it more often to get cheap surprise shots on blinded targets, Goku finds a quiet spot that he can use to charge the Spirit Bomb. He ends up borrowing so much energy from the planet that he may or may not have drained all the life from an old father deer. Dark, but morbidly hilarious.
Goku tries to fling the Spirit Bomb at Vegeta, but surprise: He's got a mouth laser! Knocks the Spirit Bomb right out of him and sends him tumbling against a rock.
"Hey Kakarot, what's the opposite of Christopher Walken?" "Huh?" "Christopher Reeves!"
CRUNCH! The giant monkey stomps down right on Goku's legs, crushing and immobilizing him.
This is such a bad, good joke. I still think about this one from time to time. And honestly, considering how I started binge-watching these in high school (where I more or less developed into an entirely different person), this joke here might very well be the genesis of my love for black humor. I'm fully willing to admit I'm biased on this, but I think this is one of the funniest dark jokes in DBZA, full stop. If not the whole series, then at least within Season 1. Don't care, evil.
Just as he's about to be crushed for good, Goku shoots a quick energy blast into Vegeta's eye, causing him to stagger backwards. This is where Goku makes his cunning escape, dodging, weaving and doing aerial acrobatics around the massive monkey man, accompanied by victorious fanfare. Or not. Goku's legs are still broken. But it's nice to just imagine how cool that would’ve looked, y’know?
Vegeta then decides he's just going to squeeze the life out of Goku, and his screams can be heard well into the distance, all the way to Krillin and Gohan.
The giant monkey keeps squeezing Goku until he squeaks like a rubber ducky, or a chew toy. He does it again, and another squeak.
"Oh my god, that's hilarious."
In the middle of squeaking Goku relentlessly, Gohan decides to make a stand, having blown back to fight Ape Vegeta. He gives a verbose speech that culminates in "The bigger they are, the harder they fall." and then strikes a fighting pose like his five year old ass is going to do anything against a fifty foot behemoth. Battle gong and everything playing in the background.
Vegeta just stares at Gohan, and then after a pause, squeaks Goku again. This has delightfully petty energy to it, especially coming from Vegeta.
While Gohan has caught Vegeta monologuing, Krillin attempts a sneak attack on Vegeta, but he effortlessly humiliates him and thwarts his efforts by simply hopping over the Kienzan that was coming from behind.
However, he couldn't anticipate two sneak attacks. That or Yajirobe was simply that unlikely of a hero, but here he comes sword and all to save literally everyone's lives as he slices Vegeta's tail clean off his rump.
With no more tail, Vegeta regresses to his original Saiyan form. He's no less dangerous, however, and just as Krillin tries to bring the hype, he gets immediately pinballed into the nearest rocky structure and the owned count strikes 9.
The writing on Vegeta's speech following this is actually quite good. "I thought I'd be angrier" is not a take I expected from someone who's had such major meltdowns and cataclysmic conniptions thus far. It does a good job of illustrating how far down the rabbit hole we've gone, to the point where he has become so angry that he's encountered a stack overflow.
Goku and Gohan have a touching moment, both broken, beaten and bloody, but as they share a heart to heart, and their hands extend towards one another's like a Michelangelo painting, Vegeta comes in like a good fiend and gives Goku a killer knee-shot to the ribs. You have to wait for the right moment!
They immediately cut away to an intermission, which they never do in any other episode, but honestly it fits here. The alternative would be to end the episode here and we've still got another three minutes and some change to go. It's an arbitrary production joke but it's necessary and well done for the scene as a whole so it gets a pass and then some from me.
When we resume, Vegeta and Gohan duke it out, which provides a convenient distraction for Goku to hand off part of the Spirit Bomb to Krillin. It turns out he'd been saving some of the earth juices from when he got the snot knocked out of him earlier, but only a little bit of it. Krillin is confused as to why Goku would trust him of all people with it, and Goku concedes that his back is kind of against the wall on this one.
With a yipee-kay-yay and a booyah motherfucker, Krillin lobs the Spirit Bomb Lite at Vegeta, who simply jumps Krillin’s attack for the second time. Maybe aim a little higher next time, or better yet don’t loudly announce your attacks. Not that anyone in this series would understand that concept anyways.
Now the Spirit Bomb is heading straight for Gohan. But it's okay because Gohan is a main character, so he just Uno Reverse Card’s the Spirit Bomb off his hands and it sproings upwards towards Vegeta once more.
Side note, I don't think it's ever explained, either in the abridged or the original series, how Goku is able to communicate telepathically with Gohan. Yes, Master Roshi says in Dragon Ball that "any highly skilled martial artist can read minds" but does that just mean reading minds or actually communicating between them? And if that's the case, why doesn't Goku use this more often? I could probably find at least one plot point that could've been avoided by this, but the answer is probably extremely simple. Goku is a moron. It's very easy to explain away forgetfulness or inconsistent writing when you can just default to saying that your main character is an idiot who forgot he could do those techniques that you forgot existed as a writer. Don't think about it too much I guess.
"What smells like deer?"
I’ve actually missed this joke every single time I've watched this episode so far, except for just now, when I watched it to write this review. The old father deer from before! That is such a cool and unexpected callback.
Anyways, Vegeta gets punked by the Diet Spirit Bomb and goes sailing into the sky. The Z Fighters - which is now just Goku, Gohan and Krillin - are ecstatic in celebration.
"It's been tough, but now, we'll never have to see that rotten Saiyan ever again."
Cue Vegeta's lifeless body ragdolling to the ground with a meaty thwap. Krillin tempts fate by approaching the body, and that goes as expected. Vegeta opens one eye and screams. Then the others all start screaming.
Very weird production mis-step or weird decision with the source footage here. Vegeta's face at least moves, but because all the others have panning shots, they freeze in weird, awkward positions. The action lines don't move, some characters aren't fully in frame, and it's very obviously a still image instead of  something like a loop. Maybe this is just what they had to work with. Still, very immersion breaking. Though honestly, I'm almost glad that if something like this had to happen in this part, it was at least in the last ten seconds.
Goku is confused because he can't move. I mean, they won right? Why is everyone screaming.
[Part 3]
This part begins immediately with Krillin getting bitch slapped, earning a 10/10 on the owned counter. Vegeta then decides he has had exactly enough of everyone and everything, and goes for the nuclear option.
Fortunately for our heroes, Vegeta has been so worn down, battered, sent through the ringer, and has suffered so much damage to that one eye in particular, that he doesn't have enough energy left to kill everyone all at once. Instead, he opts to get his hands dirty and cut them each of them down one at a time. Speaking of cut, here comes Yajirobe with his sword. It can pierce through Vegeta's armor, which is wonderful news but ultimately pointless. However, it serves as an excellent distraction.
Remember that fake moon? Remember how Vegeta only returned to normal form because his tail was amputated? Remember earlier how Piccolo had to destroy the Earth's actual moon because Gohan was a rampaging Donkey Kong lunatic? Well guess who just woke up staring right at that fake moon in the sky.
Lacking any barrels in the vicinity, Ape Gohan decides to throw around some rocks.
Goku, again, reaches to him telepathically and reminds him not to go on a rampage killing everyone.
"Remember Icarus? He did it."
Now, purely within this episode, this isn’t an issue. It’s a funny haha moment. However, this scene gets a little more irritating or perplexing once you’ve seen some of the DBZA movies. This knowledge did hamper my enjoyment of this scene on rewatch. However, that ultimately isn’t fair to this episode as a stand alone product, and my gut instinct of “My knowledge of episodes that came out well after this one retroactively makes this episode worse!” is also something I try tooth and nail to avoid. So I’m going to talk about this for a bit and get it out of my system so I can approach it fairly.
Simply put, Icarus is a headache. He's Gohan's friend and pet dragon of sorts, for like three random movies, some episodes of Z and then never gets mentioned again. Goku implies that Vegeta is responsible for Icarus' death, despite the fact that Icarus is still alive at some point after Goku defeats Freeza. I would normally take up the stance of “okay, let’s ignore the official canon / non-canon and just stick to DBZA” but he ALSO features in the DBZA movie Cooler’s Revenge, so this is multiple layers of crazy. 
I understand that DBZA exists primarily as a form of parody and thus prioritizes humor and “working with what you’ve got” over some things a harsh anal-retentive person might deflagrate them for (cough cough) and are not afraid to contradict themselves on points of little significance for the sake of humor. I also don’t think they had any long-standing plans to incorporate Icarus into Z at the time this episode was made - They may have simply wanted to make a joke about the DBZ equivalent of Poochie the Dog from Itchy & Scratchy.
Like I said, Icarus is headache. However, simply in this moment and nothing else, I do feel it works. It’s shows a cute dragon geting exploded. Who couldn’t feel bad for this poor random dragon that I totally haven’t ever seen before? It also works within the story itself -  Gohan gets sufficiently angry, and Vegeta starts treading the tightrope of desperation. 
Gohan's Ozaru form isn't long lived however, as Vegeta suddenly learns the Kienzan and slices his tail off with it. Small problem though, Gohan was airborne, and the regression back to a normal Saiyan form is not instantaneous. His massive body looms over him, and with a Big NO, Vegeta go splat.
He's down but not out. He at least has enough energy to call for his Space Uber to come and pick him up. As he's crawling hands and knees into his escape pod, Krillin suddenly decides he wants to be important, and appears with Yajirobe's sword, poised to strike. 
Vegeta is understandably terrified, because after the day Krillin's had, he's gone full ride or die mode and isn't about to wait on an invitation to go full Thanksgiving turkey on this maniac.
However, Goku wants the pacifist ending and gives a very simplified version of the original speech to Krillin. If he's sorry, we have to let him leave. Because that's what being a good boy is all about. It's noteworthy that one of my all-time favorite Vegeta quotes happens right here in the original dub.
"When I come back to this planet, you're all going to suffer. And when you beg me for mercy, I'll stare into your eyes as I crush the life out of you."
However in this version, we're treated to "Yes, I'm very very sorry. Sorry that you're all still alive, suckers!"
And honestly, both versions are fitting for their respective interpretations of Vegeta.
As we pan out, the narrator waxes on the victory of the heroes and how he made bank from his bet with King Kai. Next time, don't make bets with the narrator you stupid idiot. Big dumb idiot god. 
I'm writing this at close to 4am if you couldn't tell. Scheduled uploads!
"Has anyone really not seen this show already? Find out in the next season of Dragon Ball Z Abridged!"
And that's it folks! Well, almost. We have one final scene to go through first.
Vegeta is hurdling through space in his Saiyan pod, lamenting his laundry list of losses and failures, but at least concedes that his situation cannot get worse. But we all know what happens to people who tempt fate.
"Vegeta... VEGEEEEEETA..." "Wh-What?" *DING* "I'm haunting you."
And thus, we've reached the end of Season 1! The Ghost Nappa song plays and the outro credits roll.
Conclusion
First off, definitely a longer review than I'm used to writing. Secondly, this was a great three-parter. I wasn't sure if the format would hold up like it does for single segment episodes, but it does. Now I'm sure there are bad episodes to come in the future, but for now I'm happy that the last three or four episodes have all scored relatively high. TFS is going into Season 2 with some great foundations built upon their older, more crude material, and they still have a lot of room yet to improve. I should consider being more critical with this next season as the expectations will be higher!
There’s one noteworthy gripe I have with each of these three parts, but only one worth writing about. -Vegeta suddenly sounding different, as if I didn't talk about that enough. I swear I'm not taking crazy pills. -Weird freeze frames at the end of Part 2. -Icarus, simply because he messes with me on a personal level. This fucking dragon doesn't make any god damned sense.
Other than that, I liked it. I don't know if I'd say "I loved it" but for the series as a whole, we're getting there at breakneck speed.
The first part had some great back and forth interactions with Goku and Vegeta, both the dialogues and the beam struggle, while the second part had more stand-out moments with just Vegeta, from the squeaking Goku, to the "I thought I'd be angrier" speech, his perfectly timed knee to ribs, and the famous last words "What smells like deer?"
The last part... didn't actually have much of this. I didn't find the talk about Vegeta’s father to be terribly funny and nothing else he said was extremely stand-out like in the previous two parts. This part didn't so much have humor as it was the "let's wrap things up" segment. Most of the noteworthy moments happen close to the tail end. I will admit, even ten years later, I still got a little sentimental hearing that outro from LK, and let's not sleep on Ghost Nappa. They may have done you dirty in Kai 3 but we still love you!
Overall, I'm happy that this was as good as I remembered it. I found jokes I didn't pick up the first few times, flaws that I didn't know existed, and a new appreciation for some subtle details that may have glossed over me while I was busy laughing about Christopher Reeves.
Part 1: 75 Part 2: 78 Part 3: 72
Score: 75
Passing Thoughts
"Kaio-Ken!" "Kaio-What?"
Small error on my part - Piccolo blows up the moon in Episode 4, and in my review of that episode, I mistakenly attribute a scene from this episode to DBZ Kai Abridged.
"I'm going to enjoy this far more than I should." - And like that, Vegeta has suddenly become relatable.
"Thank God, I thought he meant penis!"
"Time to crush you like an Arlian." "A what?" "Exactly."
"I haven't killed a damned thing since I got to this god-forsaken planet! Not for lack of trying mind you."
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tigerlover16-uk · 7 years ago
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Well, just read up to the end of the Champa saga in the Dragon Ball Super manga...
I’ll give it this much credit. The artwork is nice and expressive, it was cool to see an actual fight between Beerus and Champa in the past, Majin Buu simply failing the entry test instead of falling asleep works a bit better than the anime, especially in hindsight with the universe survival arc since it means Buu’s sleeping won’t be quite as overplayed here, Goku’s fight with Botamo was better than in the anime and even his fight with Frost was a bit better in places, at least in it’s choreography...
but literally EVERYTHING ELSE was a downgrade from the anime.
Remember how the anime gave Piccolo a short but pretty good fight with Frost that showed off his wide range of techniques and expert battle strategy, and how Piccolo would have won if Frost hadn’t cheated... well here, they just exchange a couple of punches and whatever before Frost used his poison on him, it lasts 3 or 4 pages at most with nothing particularly impressive happening and there’s no implication that Frost even NEEDED to use the needle to beat Piccolo.
And you know why? Well, remember how the anime set up Frost as this great hero celebrated throughout universe 6 as it’s greatest hero who lead an army to defend the universe from evil forces and end wars, but then it turned out that he was actually leading space pirates in conquering and selling planets he pretended to save for high profits, all the while making himself look like a hero to the rest of the universe? And how that made him kinda just like Frieza, but smarter and gave him enough unique qualities to still be his own character even if he was a bit of a knockoff?
Well screw that actually interesting idea that had potential to be further expanded upon. Because in the manga, he’s just some rando who happens to just be a dirty cheater, and just wanted to get the tournament over with quickly because he didn’t want to fight in it since he wasn’t being paid. And that’s it.
And the whole thing makes Piccolo’s shafting far more egregious and pointless than in the anime, and Vegeta’s beating him a LOT less satisfying or cool. It all just made Frost feel pointless and flat, whereas the anime at least gave him some character and managed to successfully leave the audience equally disappointed and disgusted with Frost as the characters were. We don’t even get that cool bit of foreshadowing with Hit taking Frost out afterwards.
Magetta and Cabba both get much weaker showings too in their fights, both barely having time to show their stuff with Cabba not even getting to land any good hits on Vegeta after ascending to super saiyan.
They also completely alter the rules for super saiyan God and super saiyan blue, to the detriment of the story. here the super saiyan God form is used again for Goku’s fight with Hit, despite that the form was supposed to be absorbed into Goku’s body after use with SSB effectively being it’s replacement, making it basically bargain sale SS4 instead of it’s own thing. And instead of being about perfect ki control and peace of mind, here super saiyan blue is taken in the exact opposite direction and given an even WORSE power drain than super saiyan 3 where using it more than once means that after the first usage, the user loses 90% of the strength they had when they first used the form that day.
Which Toyotaro tried to use to make Vegeta losing to Hit seem less anti-climactic for Vegeta as if Toyotaro felt he needed to protect Vegeta’s image by making it look like he only lost because he was exhausted. But all it actually does is make Vegeta look like a big idiot for using SSB against Cabba earlier, and along with some other stuff makes Hit himself seem a lot less cool and impressive than he was in the anime.
Speaking of which, you know what an awesome character Hit was in the anime, how great his interactions with Goku were, how he really pushed Goku to the edge, and how AMAZING the moment Goku went Kaio-ken as a super saiyan blue was? Remember how everyone lost their minds over that and how it made the Goku vs Hit fight into one of the most beloved moments in all of Super, if not one of the best fights in the franchise?
Well, screw that apparently, there’s no kaio-ken here. Like I said, Goku just uses Super saiyan god to initially gain the upper hand on Hit, then instead of Hit having the ability to rapidly improve his skills and strength as he’s fighting Goku like he has a fast acting zenkai boost ability, it turns out he was just holding back and Goku has to use Super Saiyan Blue to beat him. It’s... not satisfying at all. And to top it all off, instead of Goku giving up because he realized that he and Hit were basically just being used as pawns for Beerus and Champa’s childish feud and him basically doing so to give Beerus a figurative screw you and teach him a lesson, while still believing Monaka can win for universe 7, in the manga... he just quits because... he feels like it I guess? Hit’s pretending to lose to Monaka makes a lot less sense as a result.
Honest the entire fight felt really anti-climactic and a lot less exciting compared to the anime. And all of the good character building moments and interactions Hit gets throughout the saga in the anime and particularly during this fight are missing, so Hit comes off a lot less flat and interesting whereas even though he wasn’t exactly super fleshed out, he still felt like a rounded character in the anime that you wanted to know more about and put on an amazing show. Here... he’s just kinda meh. And that stinks, because Hit is honestly one of my favourite characters in the franchise so this just left me feeling insulted for him.
Oh, and we also rush through the ending and especially super shenron’s summoning in a montage that takes away most of the spectacle of his summoning from the anime, and the ending with Beerus wishing Universe 6′s earth back for Champa feels less touching because we didn’t get quite as many moments with Champa here compared to the anime or as much interaction, so the build up to the ending was overall weaker.
Honestly, so far this manga feels like a bust. It starts off as basically an abridged version of the Battle of Gods movie (Except not a funny parody like DBZA, just an abridged version of the story that cuts out a lot of the best parts, all of the good character moments that didn’t involve Goku, Beerus and Whis and to a lesser extent Vegeta, and the moments it does show in full usually aren’t handled as well as in the Super anime or in the movie), it skips the Resurrection F arc entirely despite it still happening in this continuity, and the Champa saga just feels... lacking. A lot of the coolest and funniest moments are missing, and a lot of the cool moments replaced with stuff that’s just far less impressive or boring. Character interaction like Vegeta and Cabba aren’t handled as well, all of the supporting cast get virtually no good moments to themselves where even in the anime they all had at least a few good character moments to themselves, if not really being crucial to the story or fights.
Goku comes off as more of a jerk in places, especially when he seems to outright ridicule Gohan for choosing to be a scholar instead of a fighter and being angry he didn’t come to watch the tournament, whereas in the anime he was disappointed Gohan couldn’t take part because of a press conference, but understanding and happy to shrug it off since he knew Gohan’s academic ambitions were also important and still expressing pride and acceptance in Gohan. So, basically the manga removed a good moment that showed off Goku’s maturity and him being a loving and supportive parent... to replace it with him being a smart mouthed jerk annoyed with his son over matters out of his control. Charming. Are we sure it’s the anime that makes Goku into a selfish parody of himself, people?
Honestly, this manga so far feels pretty weak. There’s very little here that improves on the anime and nothing that improves of the Battle of Gods movie, and it just feels like a watered down experience with some worse writing choices so far, and it ends up underselling all of the universe 6 characters except Botamo oddly enough, and all of the supporting cast. Everything feels less fleshed out, more rushed and just not that satisfying or entertaining, with it’s only saving grace really being the artwork. Not to mention it cuts out any breather episodes, so I know it’s not going to include the baby pan story from episode 43 or anything like that.
I’m still going to read the Future Trunks arc of the manga, but only out of morbid curiosity and because I want to be informed about everything that’s going on in regards to Dragon Ball Super. But honestly so far, I’m starting to really scratch my head and wonder why the heck so many people keep trying to insist to me that the Super manga is so great and the anime is trash by comparison. because honestly, it feels like quite the opposite for me so far. But hey, that’s just me, I can’t blame people for enjoying it, that’s perfectly fine and I encourage people to have fun with things. But I’m getting really annoyed at how people bash the anime for certain things and blame them all on Toei, when this version of the story makes me feel like Toei are the ones actually putting in the effort to make the story as good as they can.
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slothcritic · 5 years ago
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Dragon Ball Z Abridged - Episode 9 Review
Consistently funny. The weak points do not drag this episode down.
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The Set Up begins with a great cold open. Piccolo is drop-dead unconscious on the ground, Gohan is desperately trying to wake him up, and Krillin is anxiously awaiting for Goku to show up. After all, he’s their friend who would never let them down right? Meanwhile... Goku is busy eating at Jadoshin's palace. Even as a departure from the original series, I like the idea that the two of them made up and are friends now. Jadoshin, however, has to remind Goku about the Saiyans. Goku then runs out in a panic.
[Title Sequence]
Piccolo isn't getting up and Nappa needs a new toy. He chooses Gohan seemingly at random from the two remaining, and floors him in one kick.
"Wooo! Not me!"
When Krillin isn't being the resident Milhouse, he's the rimshot comedian. The joy doesn't last for much longer though, as Gohan stays down.
Nappa is about to tear Krillin a new one, when the bald monk suddenly screams out that it's his turn. And for some glorious reason, this actually works on Nappa. This is some straight up Looney Tunes, "Duck Season, Fire!" type tomfoolery.
Vegeta does not handle Nappa's stupidity very well, and in his anger does a fourth wall break where he references a timestamp in the video. This is kind of clever and a bit of a break from the other fourth wall jokes that they've done so far, but I feel like it could lose its charm if it's done more than once. As for the timestamp itself, which is at 9:18 in the video... we'll get to that later.
Krillin decides to use the Destructo-Kienzan, and Vegeta shouts a warning to Nappa that it's a trick.
"But Vegeta... tricks are for kids."
The tense background music just completely stops here, but you can still hear the vibrations of the kienzan in the background. Great sound design. The long pause afterwards is also well timed, and Vegeta takes up the "fuck it, you wanna die, then die." mentality with Nappa. This skit is succinct, well paced and well editied.
Nappa receives a deep cut to the face for his troubles, as it just nearly takes his head off. Nappa laments his modeling career, and the scene cuts to a photoshopped rendition of Nappa on Vogue magazine. The bald, beautiful Saiyan, and his 10 tips on being a better lover!
This might have been a joke before its time, or perhaps the intention was different while writing this in 2009, but Nappa shows us all what a "nice guy" he was trying to be during all of this, and now decides "okay, full ultra-violence it is!" and fades Krillin with a white sparkly angel dust attack. I'm sure it has an actual cool sounding name (Like "Galaxy Breaker" or something) but I'm going to keep calling it the white sparkly angel dust attack. The owned counter ticks up to 8 here, but it doesn't feel deserved.
Piccolo jumps up with an "I'm back" and shoots Nappa... in the back. He sees what you did there. Just as Piccolo and Nappa are about to throw down, Gohan appears out of nowhere and roundhouse kicks him through a boulder. More indication that Gohan has some incredible hidden power inside of him. This surprises Piccolo, and Gohan is initially apologetic, but Piccolo begs for him to stay angry before Nappa just as quickly hops back to his feet.
It turns out Gohan hit Nappa so hard that he turned Italian. Seems a little out of left field, but why not. The "I'm a firing my laser" reference is perhaps the most dated thing I've seen since Episode 1. Would this even count as a meme? Wasn't "Firin Mah Laser" something that came out before the word meme even became popular as a way of describing internet fads, jokes, templates and trends? Back when Demotivational Posters and I Can Haz Cheeseburger ruled the internet? Truthfully, I loved this joke when it came out, but now all it does is remind me of the proto-internet days. And part of me feels weird for being nostalgic about that, because I just know someone in their 30's is going to read this and roll their eyes saying "Oh God, I'm getting old", in much the same way I'll feel horrified when people start to become nostalgic for Fortnite in the next 10 or 20 years.
Back to the episode, Piccolo's sacrifice happens right about here, and the scene does a good job of pointing out a plot contrivance in the source material. Piccolo could have just grabbed Gohan and moved out of the way. Though the scene plays up the amount of time Piccolo had to work with, there was still nothing stopping him from just grabbing him and chucking him like a bag of potatoes out of the way, even in the original. However, if Piccolo doesn't die, there's no real reason to go to Namek. What I think might be a more practical reason is that, this is a turning point for Piccolo as a character where he starts thinking emotionally. It's no real secret across both the canon and the abridged material that Piccolo is actually a pretty decent parent. So this right here is the idea of Piccolo more or less abandoning rational thought and considered only protecting Gohan. That contrasts a little with the ruthless, methodical, cunning, intelligent character he's been shown to be, just to throw that all away to save him, but the contrivance definitely becomes less egregious when you consider these factors.
However you want to address it, then end result is that Piccolo sacrifices himself to protect Gohan. In the original this is capped off with Piccolo comparing Gohan to his son, which is what Gohan begins to explain before Piccolo calls him a nerd. In this series however, Piccolo laments one final time:
"Why... didn't you... DODGE!!!"
Bleh. And with Piccolo's death, Kami is soon to follow. He explains the Namekian Dragon Balls to Mr Popo, and the long (very long) journey that must be undertook in order to revive everyone, but Mr Popo outright refuses and simply reminds Kami of the pecking order. Kami dies, and thus the Dragon Balls become inert.
Back at the battlefield, Vegeta was busy reading an issue of that very same Vogue magazine with Nappa on the cover and thus didn't see him kill Piccolo, like a mother three sangria's deep at her kid's soccer practice.
I've never much cared for Gohan's exasperated expletives in this or any scene in DBZA. This one in particular doesn't sit well with me simply because they went to the effort of being purposefully verbose but then still chose to use the word "condom" over "contraceptive" - A condom is made of latex, whereas a contraceptive is any kind of device at all that prevents pregnancy. As an example, some of the first contraceptives in history were made from linen and animal intestines, while the condom itself wasn't invented until 1855. Gohan specifically saying he's going to use Nappa's intestines as a condom serves the same purpose either way, but “contraceptive” would’ve been more technically accurate, in a bit of dialogue that is purposefully trying to be technically accurate. I wouldn't be picking on the semantics so much if that weren't the express purpose of this entire scene. Also it has more syllables and therefore sounds more smarterer.
Nappa gives this scene the backhand and the "bitch please" it deserves and we're done with that.
"Everyone important to you is dead." "Hey I'm still alive--" "EVERYONE important." "...Damn it."
See, this is where the Krillin Owned count should have gone up.
After Nappa doesn't smash, Goku appears on the battlefield. His reaction to showing up too late and everyone being dead is uncharacteristically deadpan, and it's hilarious. He asks where Chiaotzu is, and Krillin gives him the Achmed the Dead Terrorist explanation. Over there, over there, and up there. I'm not actually sure if this episode predates Jeff Dunham or not, but I enjoy both, both used the same joke at least once, and both make me laugh so I'm drawing the comparison anyways.
Goku asks why everyone is dead and Nappa immediately and without hesitation calls dibs. This leads into one of most famous and iconic scenes, if only for meme reasons, in all of DBZ.
"Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his power level?" "It's... 1006." "Wha-- Really?" "Yeah. Kick his ass, Nappa!"
Not gonna lie, this genuinely made me burst into laughter the first time I saw it. I don't know if it was just shock value or what, but it doesn't have the same effect now that I know it's coming every time I rewatch this episode. I just love the idea of the scouter being upside-down and Vegeta not questioning it. An even better headcanon is that the scouter was never upside-down, Vegeta was just getting tired of Nappa's bullshit and just decided to send him into an ass-kicking anyways.
We're treated to a solid 15 seconds of Nappa getting completely curbstomped while the various characters look on in shock and awe, until Nappa gets dumped at Vegeta's feet.
It's also here that Vegeta finally learns that Piccolo's life is directly intertwined with the Dragon Balls. I believe this was already established in the original series, but no such conversation ever occurred here. Vegeta has quite simply lost his chance at immortality and it’s all because of Nappa.
I actually wonder how an immortal Saiyan would work. They receive a Zenkai boost, which makes them stronger when they almost die, but if you can't ever die, you can't ever “almost” die either, so you wouldn't get the Zenkai boost and your power wouldn't increase that way. Then again, most expectations of logic or consistency within Dragon Ball are pretty much always doomed.
Speaking of doomed, remember that timestamp at 9:18 that Vegeta referenced earlier? Because Vegeta certainly does, and with both the camel’s and Nappa's back having officially been broken, Nappa is sent to the shadow realm in a blinding flash of light and a massive explosion.
Vegeta's smirk is all we needed to close out this episode. There is no stinger.
Conclusion
Really good episode, actually. I wouldn't consider it as strong as Episode 7, but it definitely holds the same energy throughout. There are more high quality comedic moments in this episode than I could count on both hands. At worst some of the dialogue was uninteresting, pointless or overproduced, but the average pace of this episode rests rather highly compared to its valleys.
Microphone quality and sound mixing on some pieces of dialogue is still meh. Krillin's first line in this episode peaks the audio or something similar, because it takes me out for a hot second just because it's so sudden and emphatic.
We also see a slight evolution in the dynamic between Vegeta and Nappa which keeps things fresh. This is becoming less of a deadpan snarker and over the top clown, treads more into the ticking time bomb territory which is great for slowly building tension, and not unjustly as it has a satisfying payoff.
Plot holes in the original are addressed and lampooned here, creative jokes such as the Vogue Nappa and “1006″ are present and accounted for, and on the whole there's a lot of very on the mark humor, and only some of it is overdone. The story for this episode also holds significant weight and momentum, and it all blends together quite well with an above-average script and some great visual and audio edits.
Score: 77
Passing Thoughts
"Riiiiiicola!" - Oh hey, it's this again.
"Oh and I totally killed that guy. Oh well, at least we still had fun getting here, right Vegeta? Vegeta? Remember the bug planet? Vegeta? Vegeta? Vegeta? Vegeta? Vegeta? Vegeta? Vege-- AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!"
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